LOOK vs TIME - The engineer and the artisan...

There is a LOT of history between these brands, but let's keep it 2023.
We are always asked in the comments, and it is about time I stop sitting on the fence. If you HAD TO CHOOSE... Would it be LOOK Cycles or TIME Cycles.
The two brands renowned for the highest quality, the most radical ideas and best rides go head to head.
Bikes Featured in the Video:
TIME
ADH 23 in Pink
ADHX in Blue
ADHX 45 in Vertical Blue
LOOK
765 Optimum
795 Blade RS
Bikes mentioned, but not shown
TIME
Fluidity
Skylon
LOOK
785 Huez
765 Gravel RS

[@Hambini]

I don't think there is any contest, the better made bike is the Time. The way the bike is made is fundamentally different, manufacturing tolerances are better. People might say I'm biased because I'm an OE supplier to Time but their other OE supplier is NTN who make the headsets, as far as I am aware, it's the only biike that uses NTN bearings in the headset. The BB, Frame, Headset combination are no accident - the parties involved are not going to be associated with poor manufacturing quality.

[@Mapdec]

The NTN quickset is no more. Everything will have the Deda DCR headset now. I have mixed feelings about that. Have you built your Skylon yet?

[@tmayberry7559]

What type of headset is the deda dcr

[@Mapdec]

@@tmayberry7559 IS

[@colecoleman1499]

Mapdec speaks highly of the ride quality but when you rode it having a camera in your hand, you couldnt feel any difference and i was like why bother making such a neat bike. The bb area is super round of time

[@Desmo500]

what listen to a biased 5 year old... oh, well, yeah.

[@steppings5645]

I don't think Look and TIME have ever made frames on Friday afternoon's, in contrast to other brands who seem to only make frames on Friday afternoon's!

[@TnFruit]

But maybe they make frames on Monday morning 😂

[@tmayberry7559]

😊😅

[@christocan4710]

Exactly. I just got a new canyon bike and the quality is appalling. So many quality issues but they don’t care and offer a 100 Euro Refund. Ridiculous.

[@vodizzzle]

How many bikes of those brands have you owned to make such a statement?

[@steppings5645]

@@vodizzzle Every single one, but I only ride to the chippy so am not a reliable sauce. Other experts are available I am sure!!

[@valmorell]

What a wonderful decision to have to make.... Time for me based on classic lines, ride quality, and non proprietary parts. Easy to live with long term.

[@asmaco1]

Very interesting comparison, your arguments are reasonable and sound. Most of us can only buy one bike at time; I choose the Time ADH21 and I can confirm, it's stiff, yet it rides quiet and smooth, especially uphill or on rough surfaces. That's an important point for me, because it helps to be able to ride longer. I like the approach of Look as well, but I'm really happy with my Time, which I think is also fantastic value for money (compared to several other high end brands). You have a great bike shop and I think Your choice of brands makes every customer like Buridan's donkey.

[@Mapdec]

Thank you.

[@TimIrwin26]

The cobalt blue or forest green with carbon weave on the ADHX are stunning. I only wish they would offer a more endurance oriented geometry. Some of the angles are a bit different between the ADH and ADHX, but things like stack and reach are nearly identical and very race oriented.

i dont have TIME to LOOK at this video

[@veggiechowder8877]

😂😂😂

[@patrickwong4824]

Nice🤣

[@sleephealing4009]

Lupit

[@Kanonka28]

I miss rim brakes, simple, light😢

[@jeffreyborrowman5518]

These are the only two manufacturers today that I would buy a bike from. I recently bought a time. Just love the simplicity of it. Perfectly engineered and executed. It’s a bike I will keep forever

[@mikefoster3901]

I ride a Time Fluidity rim brake model My first carbon frame bike and it is a joy to ride At 74 years young I enjoy long days in the saddle Thanks for your comparisons both Look and Time are the best bikes ever ❤️

[@Desmo500]

that is what I needed! Advice from another septuagenarian. My next bike is confirmed.

[@MrSzwarz]

Since I have discovered TIME bikes, both quality of finish, technology and ride, (I still have Focus Cayo disc), I would be considering LOOK only as my third bike. There is nothing better on the market than TIME. I look forward to see next models in 2024. TIME handlebars and seatposts are extremely desirable, I regret that TIME doesn't manufacture it anymore.

[@82vitt]

Same here. I have owned multiple Look frame sets, bar the latest one and also an ADH01 and the Time is decidedly better in every imaginable aspect.

[@morganverdure6116]

They still manufacture it. But not in France anymore. Slovakia. But still 100 % owned.

[@dr.brockhaus5548]

I think a comparison with 3T would be interesting. 3T has also their own way to wave their carbon from raw carbon fibers direct in their company in italy. (Ok maybe only their Racemax Italia… not sure) I am curious how they compare. Just done my first self build custom bike with a kinesis frame. And love it. So Look, Time and 3T is actual a bit out of reach for me but i like your content.

[@BertVasquez-b1b]

I love Time!! I am on my 3rd Time frame and they ride great. I am in Southern California and you see very few Time bikes anywhere but when you do it feels like you are part of a bike family. Special!! Great job on the video!

[@Mapdec]

Thank you.

[@ARGINH]

2023 Time ADH. Look for me in Griffith park with my buddy on his ADHX ✌️

[@MrKadillak]

I ride a Time Skylon, which is my 3rd Time. I live in Tokyo and every time I encounter another Time their certainly is a feeling of Kindred Spirits. I also marvel at the Look RS Blade 795. Both Look and Time are made in their own factories and come w a Lifetime Warranty.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

I live in so cal. (Orange county) I'm hoping to join your ranks. Im going to have to build my ADHX gravel from scratch, all times builds are a little high for me. So im starting with the frame! Again, hopefully...

[@markozivanic5813]

Scylon should be coming this Spring. Waiting on that to decide whether to go with ADH or Scylon. Unfortunately in the USA, Look is hard to find in store. Time is more friendly and responsive via email or phone. Also word on the street is they are opening a factory in South Carolina.

[@Mapdec]

Yes. They are. Manufacturing in the USA.

[@nimamoini6469]

​​@@Mapdecthat is the end of Time then, in my humble opinion. What made Time frames great was the fact that the production was lower compared to bigger names, allowing better QC for instance. Needless to say that the actual quality of Time got lowered when it moved from France to Slovakia. Once being manufactured in the US, I'm afraid it'll get even lower, before being moved to Asia to match the demand... Anyway, @Mapdec great vids as usual :)

[@michaelmechex]

I've heard the South Carolina location will be more of a warehouse than a factory. It's supposed to be a distribution center for America, and frames are supposed to stay being made in Slovakia. I don't know what will actually happen tho

[@peters8504]

Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt

[@markozivanic5813]

@@peters8504 i agree. Many Japanese car manufacturers moved production to the USA and qualify did not suffer. Also it helps our economy.

[@universe-juice]

Best to be safe and get one of each 👍

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Who needs a house anyway!

[@universe-juice]

@@brandonhoffman4712 exactly. You can stretch a tarp between your 2 bikes 👍

[@sa3key]

In addition to Cannondale, I have been looking at Time bike. I emailed Time and actually got a response back. I asked them about an updated Scylon (internal routed cables was my specific question). And they stated a updated Scylon bike was coming out in Spring of 2024

[@Popcorn_Rider]

When is Spring 2024 for you?

[@sa3key]

@@Popcorn_Rider March/April. But we will see when they release it. They were not more specific than that.

[@silitch]

I think the Alpe d'Huez paint job is one of the best on the market for race bikes. I do like the Look patterned color scheme, but still think the Alpe d paint is top 🙂

[@jtb52]

It's pretty rare to see a Time in the Sunday chain gang here in Toulouse area. The Sunday randonnée is a social thing. Still you're right some have a time and it's a pride and joy and they're bike for a lifetime. Look are also not around I think price is an issue. They've not got the collector caché of a Time but are more expensive than the big brand bikes. We've got your specialized, trek, giant main dealers I guess mopping up a big percent of sales. I'm still riding a Focus with calipers and a Cinelli gravel bike. I'd go for the Look sometimes a few discounted ones can be had at the local online dealer in their warehouse shop...which is 20 mins from home😊

[@VendetaBrown]

I found a Look 765 Gravel RS frame (Black Chromatic) in California. Shop shipped it to me, building it up with Force AXS 1X and 2 wheel sets (700c skinnies and 650b fatties)… Very excited.

[@SM-67]

I've owned a Look 675 for ten years and I also have a Time Skylon that I've had for about 5 years, both very different bikes but the quality is second to none. The French do know how it's done.

[@neilbernstein3661]

In 2021 I got a 795 Blade RS, built up with DA/HED vanquish wheels. It is the most amazing riding bike I have ever had or ridden!! It has the power transfer and front end stiffness with nice vertical compliance in the rear triangle…. Rides so smooth… even over rough SoCal roads.

[@neilbernstein3661]

I see it as unfortunate that Look succumbed to popular demand to lower the seat stays on the new 795 to increase stiffness for the ProTour… nice for them, but I see it as a disadvantage for the non-racer century rider like me…

[@Mapdec]

For sure. The blade doesn’t hide from its intended purpose. For the non competitive sportive rider the 765 and the new 785 will hit that sweet spot for you.

[@qibble455]

I love Look but I'd choose the Scylon over the Blade because Time has a massive discount on their frames atm. Great vid:)

[@spaceburge]

Opted for a Time after a fit. The ADH is surprisingly short and tall for a race bike. Coming from a Giant TCR, this thing is worlds apart in terms of handling and natural damping. It may weigh a little more but the “ride quality” sound bites are 100% true.

[@VendetaBrown]

Short as in reach or overall length? Tall as in stack height?

[@scottwatson7844]

The more videos of yours I watch the more I want that Look 765 😁

[@jevgeniardassov]

Look Gravel frame is 2599.- and TIME is 3999.- so quite the difference. But damn I want the Time ADHX45 but I just cannot justify it to myself, even having the money.

[@apoc341]

You only live once. If you can afford it get the one you want.

[@baysidessi]

I like too say "my coffin won't have a luggage rack on it, so I might as well spend it"

[@ArjenHogers]

I own a Look 795 (and 565) from the previous generation. Best bike I ever had and riden. And a joy to look at too😊.Time makes beautiful bikes to but a little bit to conservertive in geometry and looks.

[@82vitt]

Do you only stare at bikes or do you ride them occasionally as well? Take a ride on something like the ADH01 with some nice wheel set and you won't want anything else ever.

[@ArjenHogers]

​😂 You don't have to worry. I don't take her out occasionally but frequently. No doubt a Time rides fine. Just prefer the steep seattube angle, adjustable seatpost and aero cockpit. Everyone should ride what fits them best.

[@michaelroe6007]

I can't decide. Both fantastic bikes. I have the LOOK 785 Huez Disc which is a great bike for locally hills riding. Looks stunning. But being a mechanical engineer I also have just ordered the TIME ADHX for the superb build quality. BB tolerances, openly displayed carbon fibre weave, robust and steady frame for lumpy local hills, pot holes and dips. I'll change from 2x Shimano to try 1x SRAM with the ADHX and explore some gravel roads.

[@pauladams5673]

Hambini put me right off SRAM, he says the quality control is very poor.

[@michaelroe6007]

It's a fairly loose response. All of Shimano, Campagnolo & SRAM have good and poor results. SRAM appear to have the best results for the 1x 12-spd groupset for gravel work. @@pauladams5673

[@tommyfreckmann6857]

This takes me back to why I love my Colnago C40!!!! The classic design, the amazing attention to detail which I feel are both art and engineering along with the best riding road bike ever made on multiple accounts.

[@kevinmarks3861]

The Look frame is just another cookie cutter, proprietary everything made piece of junk. At least Time let's you pick some of the basic things you need to get a custom fit versus use what I make and sell or fuq off.

[@markcarlton]

A very fair and balanced review, these brands are clearly superior to everything else but for perhaps a proper custom frame build. They are different but the same, equals in their category.

[@marksharrock6858]

And 25% off on the time website atm. That could swing it for some !

[@MarkArthur]

I have ridden many bikes but not look or time. So far I find Colnago has the most superb ride quality. Do you know how Colnago compares to Time in terms of ride quality?

[@invisiblescout6335]

Would never trust a designer over an engineer

[@sparker602]

As an engineer myself I'd say it's a little more complicated than that. Not all engineers and designers are created equal.

[@Mapdec]

I don’t think you can have one without the other.

[@WhaJMc]

As much as I'd like a Time ADHX, there is still it costs significantly more than a Look 765 Optimum. Plus I think the 765 suits my riding style more (sit and spin).

[@wfrx4783]

I went to my LBS a few days ago with a parts list to get an ADHX 45 built up. If I had to pick a road bike right now, I'd probably go for the 795 Blade RS. But my SL7 is still good enough for the foreseeable future. By the time I'm in the market for a new road bike, there'll probably be a new Scylon and a 785 Huez to consider as well.

[@moo4rich]

I would jump for a Time only if they did an endrance bike with mounts for mud guards. The Look 765 does the job on paper for me but the paint is underwhelming. So hopeful Time comes out with another option next summer or Look get away from black or silver and do something exciting and classy with the finish, which they have done in the past.

[@simonalexandercritchley439]

Well balanced view on both brands you have. Difficult to choose since I like the Alpe d'huez in magenta (some say pink) and the mondrian 795 blade.I'll take both,just kidding. Non proprietary bikes are easier to live with and change parts,anywhere in the world you can find round 27.2 seat posts.

[@Rafskat]

From those two brands.. i propably will Look on Time 😅 Time, propably that rumored scylon. Time is more "geeky" with manufacturing process and also lack of proprietary components (but on other hand, i love Look ZED cranks) Time bikes appears to be more "classic" or "timeless" in terms of aesthetics (as a fan of classic/vintage road bikes) And also.. Time frames are manufactured in Slovakia, so it's bit local for me (Czechia)

[@Butchcassidy67987]

Thoroughly enjoying my time skylon, rim brake too!

[@10ktube]

How much time does it take for Look/Time to make a frame from start to finish, vs a brand that isn't as detail oriented?

[@Paddystyx]

I must have a split personality as I have one of each, 🤣. Two excellent brands. A great video. Thank you.

[@Mapdec]

🙏

[@enigma1000]

I like the enthusiasm. Would make a great bike salesman…. Time ADHX on order….

[@clp91009]

I’ve been considering Look and Time for my next bike. I’ll probably wait until the new Scylon is released before making my decision. Historically I have always run Shimano but for my next build I’m thinking Sram.

[@MrHrodwolf]

Easy! Time doesn't make a TT bike so my roadie is a Time and my TT bike is a Look, problem solved! 🙂

[@StanEby1]

Brilliantly done. I'm rooting for Time because they are opening a facility close to me in the South Carolina upstate. All the best.

[@michaelrabin11]

Great video, I am interested to hear your comments on the BMC Roadmachine and what would be a good comparable bike

[@FGIRAFFE]

If we look back in time, both brands have been created in Nevers, France. There must be something special overthere! Something about skiing, the urge for clipless and rossignols... I don't know, that's a bit strange.

[@gerardocuriel5490]

Look organises races in Nevers every year. The town is fairly small and visitable in one or two days, but lots of great sceneries and smooth roads for cycling. But what honestly shocked me was the kindness towards cyclist. I mean people (particularly car drivers on road) who encourage you on big climbs or even offer water. I feel they love cyclists. Very very hilly too.

[@JibbaJabber]

Saw what you did there 😉

[@FGIRAFFE]

Impressive. I'll go some day. Thx for your description

[@pauladams5673]

I would love a LOOK 795 Blade RS & I can afford to buy one but I can imagine the banter, on the club run, when I'm dropped by someone younger on a cheap bike 😀

[@Mapdec]

That will probably happen no matter what you ride, being old doesn't mean we have to resign ourselves to some bloated endurance bike though.

[@bobzuidema3560]

Amazing bikes, both brands, I love the more traditional look of the Time the way the fibers are shown is magnificent. The way they build their bikes is more timeless, you would never be bored of your Time I think. For me personally it is important to appreciate a bike for what it actually is and not how certain hot topics of that era are incorporated in a bike design (dropped seat stays, aero design and integrated cocpit to name a few). I have a titanium bike for those reasons and up until now I always thought I would never buy a carbon bike again... so very well done this video!

[@davidross8233]

I’d never buy a carbon bike, but if I did, it’s Time or Look.

[@Desmo500]

what on earth do you mean NEED? I WANT a TIME!

[@jonburnell532]

The ADHX is my lottery win bike, and Time just edge it for me for desirability. But they are both the pinnacle of frame manufacturers.

[@daveanolik8837]

Same. Bought one this year, first CF bike (other than a hardtail mtb). Thing rides so well that I thought I was gaslighting myself. A true all-road - A fast gravel bike and a fast road bike depending on my wheelset. Elated a splurged on it.

[@jonburnell532]

@@daveanolik8837 Nice 👍 Not envious at all 😉

[@Chayeazy]

@daveanolik8837 do you own an ADHX all-road or an ADHX 45? I'm looking to build a 2-in-1 bike and I have become enamoured with the ADHX line! Cheers 🎉!!

[@daveanolik8837]

@@Chayeazy I have the ADHX with two wheelsets so I can easily swap from road to gravel. The fast gravel kids are definitely trending toward 45mm++ primarily for screaming fast descents. I run specialized pathfinder pros 38mm, and for me personally it’s more than enough, at lower pressure/tubeless, to feel fast and safe on descents on the typical gravel here in Oregon. Thing is, I put more miles on roads than gravel, and the ADHX, with road tires, roadie cockpit (aero drop bars) and aggressive geometry (for me) it’s also the road bike I’ve always wanted - stiff, climby, fast, comfortable on very long rides. I also have a pivot LES for sloppier gravel and bigger adventures, so between those two bikes I have everything covered. The wider and (I think) slightly slacker profile of the ADHX45 would feel less of a fast aggressive roadie, but I’d love one if I could afford a single-purpose gravel racing bike in my quiver. I guess what I’m sayin’ is… I want ten primo bikes, but the ADHX and my Pivot check all the boxes for the riding that I do. 😁

[@StopTheRot]

I really want a Time, but I cannot find any information on how stiff the frame is when accelerating. I’m on the larger side (83kg), and I feel very sensitive to flex in the BB area. I’m coming from a Colnago V3Rs which is too flexible.

[@Mapdec]

Please come and try one. Although if you are coming from the V3 I would wait until they launch the Scylon

[@moobaz8675]

I think I might need to pay you a visit. I want an all day endurance bike to replace my Roubaix.

[@Mapdec]

Cool. Come try some things and have a chat.

[@GG-si7fw]

"I'm going to get into so much trouble for this video." You're right. You didn't compare pedals. 🤣

[@Mapdec]

Haha. I’m going to make that video.

[@tomadevil1]

The video I didn't think I needed but I deserve ❤

[@Mapdec]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@manuelwenaud8231]

Not made in France anymore. Nore in Tunisia for Look... Time is made in Slovaquia. And not that good. Sorry. Vive la France, vive De Gaulle !

[@sbart23]

Slovakia, not Slovenia. In the town of Gajary just north of Bratslava, to be precise, although Time is opening a manufacturing facility in South Carolina as well.

[@manuelwenaud8231]

Thank you ! @@sbart23

[@trwilliams22]

I still love my 2001 Look.

[@jonathanhowson6420]

Specialized Tarmac SL7 with Reserve 52/63 rims on red Chris King hubs. I would say SL8, but its so ugly and that matters.

[@erichweggelaar1320]

Look = quirky French artist. Time = brain surgeon To be honest I've never had the desire to own a look bike. Time, Bianchi, Colnago for sure

[@JC-pm5sh]

Look T47 BBs layout wins handsdown. I don't know why Time cycling uses a pressed fit BBs. 😢

[@Mapdec]

Pressfit is better if executed well. Bonding an alu tube into a carbon frame to provide threads is not great.

[@aneczka2114]

Look bike for me...time bikes look outdated to me

[@ccmmrrnn]

Funny, I would have made the opposite choice of "artisan" and "engineer". LOOK have always been more 'engineered' to me, with the amount of system integration, pushing the envelope on what they can eke out of each section of the frame, innovating in aero, designing frames as semi-complete modules before any major brands were doing so. TIME are the artisans - the amount of hand labour involved, tying off individual 'sock' plies by hand, wax mandrels, the traditional approach to geometry, dedication to what they know will work, making improvements when something is obviously better but not changing only for the sake of change. TIME are far and away the most 'spirited' feeling carbon bikes I've ever ridden. They don't try to win on grams, but they ride light, while remaining inexplicably comfortable. And as you showed, they feel strong and unyielding in the hand but that somehow translates to a planted feeling on the road. It also inspires confidence - you don't feel like you're floating on top of this fragile wafer-thin monocoque. Riding on eggshells, as it were. It's as close to the confidence you get from a good steel frame as I've felt in any material, but with the light weight and snappiness of carbon.

[@JohnWilliams-s9n]

What make are those rather elegant wooden bike stands? 😊

[@Mapdec]

Oh. Just some random thing off AliExpress

[@Yamaha_Bolt]

What is the one manufacturer that absolutely ensures customer certainty in build quality, post sale support and value for dollar? You want to buy a terrific all around road bike and you want zero concerns, what are you buying, knowing the most expensive doesn’t mean much today. For example, if all I need is a bottom bracket, I know Hambini is 2nd to none.

[@robsthedon]

Look all day

[@aaxa101]

Amazing bikes

[@kindjalkazad]

I own a 795 blade RS from 2021, I love this bike :) The geometry perfectly suits my body type. The only thing, I'll change the wheels next year, as I do not really enjoy my pair of Corima MCC DX 47

[@HarishChouhan]

Stop talking about look bikes. I've already exceeded my budget for the wheels and components and feel like getting the Look frame instead of what I had decided earlier.

[@catflapjones2677]

Having ridden a lot of exotic brands over the last 20 years, I don't think I'll be buying another make after Time. The '23 ADH Disc is without a doubt my favourite bike. Nearest carbon bike that has come close in joy to ride is my old (now sadly broken) Colnago EPS. Comparing more modern carbon like my Cervelo R5, the time has better ride quality, equivalent stiffness and is a few hundred grams heavier. The Time is much better made; everything just fits together perfectly. The Cervelo less so. The Cervelo was probably faster, but I didn't look forward to riding it like I do the Time. If / when they issue a modern update on the Scylon that might be the last bike I ever buy!

[@markmccann-wood2225]

Do you have a LOOK demo bike? I had a TIME VXRS for years & it's been the benchmark since regards ride quality. Intrested in a 785

[@Mapdec]

Yes. Mostly in size L.

[@markmccann-wood2225]

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm size M 54TT. I'll drop you an email/call soon as - just got back from Mallorca. Thanks

[@tmp1k]

I’m not really a fan of the name Time for a bike brand. I don’t get it. I’d prefer the Look badge on my frame. I have a Look 586sl and that’s about the best I’ll likely be able to go with a look alas.

[@nellyx1x493]

As an artisan, I'd take the engineers bike, the Time.... also, the paint colour fade into immaculate lacquered 4k weave on '45 would seal the deal.

[@hockeyiscanada]

Actually, it's the fabrication and ride quality that sets Time apart !!

[@Jack42Frost]

Do you sell other brands of bicycle? Is there a very simple bias in this video.

[@Mapdec]

We don’t really sell bikes. We have always done custom builds from many brands, Basso, Cinelli, BMC, QR, Argon 18 etc. Just in recent months we have become known for Look and Time. We don’t hold stock though. Everything is just built and bought to order.

[@Jack42Frost]

@@Mapdec fair play. I do actually own a LOOK bike. It seems to be very good. I think I suffer from being suspicious whenever a product is pushed on the Internet. Who is saying what about what and to the benefit of whom.

[@neilrobinson7965]

@@Jack42Frostyou are right to be suspicious though. I think Mapdec is legit, but there is so much shilling going on the internet, it pays to be cautious.

[@Mapdec]

@@Jack42Frost it’s a good suspicion. Any problems just pick up the phone or drop in and say hi.

[@Jack42Frost]

Have you worked on many KG241s?

[@MarkCox11]

I hope TIME is taking care of you, I think everyone wants to buy a TIME now! I'm waiting until they start making them in the South Carolina factory.

[@petelok9969]

Look 486's for me. That said I've a Time vx edge frameset I'm dying to build up and try out see how the ride compares. P

[@paljasvonpinguin]

So, all the bikes in the video are listed in the description but not the cool looking stands :) Anybody who knows what they are?

[@kuyasadventure510]

Juat bought time adhx while watching this video. I got it for a good price 5k usd. I am really excited to ride my adhx.

[@JFomo]

For sure I'd pick the new Look Blade. The way that head tub connects down to the fork is aero af. I don't think Time could ever do something like that.

[@feedbackzaloop]

In this context artisan is rather Festka. These are rather different approaches of engineering. Also reminding everyone RTM is used by 3T. So it's not that much about process, but its application.

[@garybird8646]

Some are using RTM but with a polystyrene mandril that is then melted out, not very environmentally friendly and how do we know all the waste material is removed. Time use a wax mandril, so better for the environment

[@feedbackzaloop]

@@garybird8646 this difference you are talking about is unfortunately pure greenwashing. The impact is near identical, as both solutions are circulated in the facilities, but at given quantities both pose a serious threat, should an accident happen. It's not just one piece of candle wax you have with Time

[@MrSzwarz]

3T is not even close to TIME technology, they have different appoarch and technology, TIME as the only one with Braided Carbon Structure , the weaving of dry fibers into complex bi-directional patterns. with 30 years of experience, experiments, and test they have no competion from main stream brands. And.. Lifetime waranty : )

[@feedbackzaloop]

@@MrSzwarz what part of Resin Transfer Molding is about weave, huh? As said, it's not just one aspect. And to be honest, their pattern is not that complex even compared to some shoes, let alone any carbon sheet layup. Hence the greater weight, by the way: the repeated pattern adds fibers where those are not necessary because the spot is some distance away from where they are required.

[@rcg9573]

Yeah, and 3T's quality control is garbage. It is in fact about the application. 🙂

[@tmp1k]

Which of these brands has been in the bike manufacturing game longer?

[@daviddjerassi]

I love your presentation straight to the point no BS as always if i was a billionaire one of each please but im not so may i have a Time RR model please love your video thanks .

[@joneseycdj]

Can you get the mudguards yet for the look 765 optimum?

[@WowRixter]

I love my LOOK 695, but if I were to buy another carbon bike, it'd definitely be the Time ADH

[@hockeyiscanada]

Look is not a prestigeus brand and Time is the engineer and the artisan !!

[@ramsden35]

Bike porn! With amazing insight as always.

[@lcisso8584]

Getting Look 795 RS with mcc Evo 47 end of the month

[@foreverjz9284]

Keep us updated with the new Look 785! I’ve been waiting for this refresh for a long time

[@AndyK.23]

Well done comparison! I bought a used 2011 Time NXR Instinct - looks new, has rim brakes, and all the Time advanced manufacturing and superb ride! Best of all - the frame was $500!

[@sunderfun20]

That's my old road bike. I just wish I could on larger tires, but agreed - an amazing bike.

[@TV-ui1tl]

I have one of each. ADHX for road and 765 for gravel both are super bikes to ride.

[@Mapdec]

Very nice!

[@asmaco1]

Your lucky, a dream pair!

[@VendetaBrown]

How does the 765 behave on both road and gravel? I’ve heard it makes a fantastic endurance style road bike… what size tires do you run on it?

[@TV-ui1tl]

Not using the 765 for road, gravel only. Currently running 40 mm. However the Time makes a fantastic endurance road bike. Running 28mm@@VendetaBrown

[@manitoublack]

Why choose. (Looks behind to my Time VXRS or over my shoulder to my Look 595 Ultra.) And like your kids, you're not allowed favourites😊. Jordan.

[@Mapdec]

Nice

[@andrewpintar1620]

I had serious anxiety watching you wave that Look frame around the sharp edges of that vice in middle of the vid....😬😬😬

[@Mapdec]

Spatial awareness

[@oldfox6355]

Of all the reviews on Look, including this one - they never seem to cover the post purchase maintenance complexities derived from Looks bespoke components and design . I owned a 695 SR with the ZED crank. A bike so insanely stiff and reactionary. All was great until I wanted to replace bearings / chainrings at my local bike shop. That's where it died for me. No LBS is going to spend $400 on a bespoke Look bearing removing tool used 2-3 times year. And then try find the bespoke chainring bolts to match. Incredible bike, but not practical unless you''re on the Cofidis team.

[@Mapdec]

Oh. We did a vid on that. It doesn’t require the tool.

[@oldfox6355]

@@Mapdec Look had an entire video dedicated to safe removal of the bearing using their custom tool, preventing crank damage. What was the point of that?

[@Mapdec]

@@oldfox6355 to teach dealers how to do it.

[@oldfox6355]

@@Mapdec so how do bike mechanics do it without the tool?

[@mikekelly1771]

Been dreaming of owning a Time for 20 years. One day.

[@gregschramm8180]

Great video I’ll take either one but the money is a problem for me

[@revco196]

Buying one of each is the obvious solution.

[@YaniofWigan]

Just get one from each brand ;)

[@brentcollins9727]

What a great way to start my day! That was a great presentation. Cheers from Houston, Texas

[@denisrogers4358]

It’s Time….. for a Look at a Time

[@tomadevil1]

Why did you not use Time Alp Duez 21 as an example for endurance bike?

[@Mapdec]

Because it’s a discontinued line.

[@dopeone700]

Just look at those Beautiful Time bikes!