LOOKING FOR AN ALLIANCE ! The Expanse - S6 Ep 5 - Why We Fight - REACTION

[@LeeCarlson]

When Avarsarela overrode the UN flunky telling Camina "how it was going to be," that set the tone for Drummer's position in the hierarchy.

[@gravshark]

There are some semi-credible rumors that Alcon, the production company, is shipping around a revival for the final three books. Apple seems to be in the front running. Stay tuned, you might get your wish to continue the story!

[@Cbricklyne]

It would be so beautiful if Apple got them. Apple do modern sci-fi right among all the streamers now. They don't skimp on teh budget and production value on their shows is top-notch. - Silo - Foundation -Severance. - For All Mankind - Monarch : Legacy of Monsters (sci-fi adjacent). And final Expanse books would make an excellent bookend to that brilliant collection. Naomi (Dominique Tipper) is already on one of those shows, so they may as well save some costs and have this show along for the ride.

[@dallesamllhals9161]

30 years...though...Hollywood CGI'ing OLDER! Sry' BUT NOT gonna happen 🙃

[@chrisb.8758]

@@dallesamllhals9161they already laid some groundwork for shortening the time jump from how long it is in the books…combine that with the in-universe explanation of the fact that every lives to 150 and uses anti-aging medication (this is in the books) and you could easily pull it off by making them look a few years older and claiming it’s a 10-15 year time jump

[@thatquietsong]

⁠@@dallesamllhals9161Due to anti aging meds, most of the crew looks like they're in their 40s I believe.

[@RamblersInc]

🤞

[@MattNolanCustom]

I think you're the first reactors I've seen who immediately thought what I did about Avasarala's "Belter edition" wardrobe for her meeting with Drummer. Very grungy, but still full of class and style. Mass-Energy threshold. Mass and Energy are equivalent (see Einstein's most famous formula). The theory is that when the sum total of mass and energy passing through the rings reaches a critical point, the entities are triggered into action.

[@RamblersInc]

We can't miss it if that much of the budget went on her clothes 🤣 Technically you could manipulate it to activate it when you want if you know how it does now.

[@Cbricklyne]

Don't worry about the Finale. We were all worried too, but it's one of those rare and satisfying occassions where you could say (of a show) that they truly stuck the landing. One of the best finales I've ever seen of a show I loved in years.

[@nonman3634]

For me the most moving line of the entire show is Michio's 'I will live under the Inners' yoke and I will help Josep find a way to also.'

[@nonman3634]

Come to think of it, it's kind of a spoiler, since it implies that you won't hear an even more moving line in the final episode, bwahaha.

[@RamblersInc]

She's actually willing to do what it takes just to find some peace.

[@michaelwatkins7091]

You guys really should be watching the X-Ray shorts as well. There are a few items of context that I think you'll appreciate.

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

Especially on this episode- young Holden!

[@madux42]

They said they will, but only after the final episode.

[@zumzoom6368]

@@PHDiaz-vv7yo that moment with Monica gets me every time.

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

@@zumzoom6368 it’s really lovely- there’s a maturity and acknowledgment in their journey

[@LeeCarlson]

The mass-energy density is a combination of the mass of the ship combined with the velocity of the ship. And not just one ship moving at high velocity, it is a combination of many ships crossing the interface.

[@jq8913]

Luckily the season finale is a full hour and i personally loved everything about how it ends. I cant wait to see your reaction for the series finale.

[@jenssylvesterwesemann7980]

I think Michio (the hamster) now deserves to be called "Old Sawbones", or, in short, "Bones".

[@josephkrengel]

She didn't lose everything in a divorce though... ;)

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@josephkrengel Digging deep, bro.

[@jenssylvesterwesemann7980]

@@josephkrengel We don't know her life! 😀

[@RamblersInc]

😂👏

[@LeeCarlson]

The "creepy gentleman" is Admiral Duarte who is the autocrat of Laconia.

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

The penultimate episode of Band of Brothers was Why we Fight The penultimate episode of The Expanse- the same And no coincidence according to the show runner A great episode to start the run to the finale. Of course we all remember it for Amos, glitter, and the line “with you.. or WITH you??” (Honestly Amos and Bobbie going at it would properly spin up Ceres to more than one third G. Dangerous stuff) And a great reaction- keep the faith fellas. They may just stick this landing. And keep us all us Firehawks wanting more. The books are quality and books 7-9 are essential reading

[@Jackomack]

Finished 7-9 recently and am going thru 1-6 and novellas for the first time after seeing the show a good 10-20 times 😅

[@pssthpok]

The last trilogy is amazing, but I recommend starting the books from the start, it's well worth the time.

[@RamblersInc]

Didn't expect that line from Bobbie 😳. Well....it IS all about to go down. Why not. Damn....that BoB episode.

[@DongusMcBongus]

@@pssthpokYes to anyone wanting to read the books. They’re an easy read. Not saying they’re not beautifully written, just they’re all page turners. And they’re not that long. I love A Song of Ice and Fire the most but George RR Martin’s writing style can get a bit cumbersome. Daniel and Ty (who write under the name James SA Corey) are much more to the point.

[@LeeCarlson]

Laconia was set up as the "big bad" for the last three novels in the series.

[@m.e.3862]

Dunno if it's been mentioned before that using the Ring station as a central point to control the ring space was the lecture Admiral Sauveterre gave at the War College last season. Turns out he knew what he was talking about! Once again the show makes just about everything on screen relevant later on....

[@LeeCarlson]

Amos is a mechanic and he would be a great mechanic on any ship.

[@TomBagwell]

The Laconia bits are a set-up for later books. They pretty much had to go here. I saw it as faith in the future of the show, one way or the other.

[@RamblersInc]

I really hope you're right

[@KevinLyda]

There's a yt channel called The Review Crew that's one episode behind you guys. When they finish they're doing a live podcast. Maybe a joint one?

[@RamblersInc]

Not too different either. Everyone's looking for answers when they watch this show 😂. That's great writing.

[@ZakhadWOW]

And now we see exactly WHAT was that giant object that Laconia sent thru to Medina.. Proto-Tech enhanced advanced Martian. Statinary Railguns. 6 in total placed equidistantly around the ring station. (the zoom in on the display showed the 5 that could theoretically fire toward the sol gate.

[@RamblersInc]

Finally we see what Marco was so smug about, even whilst it looked like he was losing it throughout this season.

[@MotelsonMars]

We will definitely get the last act of the story (the last 3 books.) It's just a question of how (series vs movies) and when.

[@RamblersInc]

🤞 Let's hope so. And that's it's done right.

[@kirkdarling4120]

KIrino was a squared-away trooper; she deserved to go out better than that. It's been pointed out in several stories and by combat veterans that soldiers long in combat are no longer fighting for "king and country," but for their fellow soldiers at their sides. If you didn't watch the X-Ray features, you missed a bit that added pathos to Naomi and Drummer's meeting. People talk about shows being "woke" these days, and The Expanse, particularly this episode, tics all the boxes of "woke," but manages to be gloriously entertaining. They did it right.

[@RamblersInc]

Agreed. I could have watched a lot more of Sandrine Kirino. Very intelligent character.

[@jamesholland5761]

Great reaction and analysis guys as always! Yes this was a very good episode! The conversation between Amos and Bobbie was short but good! Seeing Chrisjen's story arc from in the beginning until now is amazing! Nothing can compare to the scene between Drummer and Naomi! Literally broke my heart! The last episode is amazing! I was so nervous. Ive been disappointed to series endings before. But as I should have known, they stuck the landing IMO! Looking forward to it!

[@RamblersInc]

You don't get to see Drummer bawl like a baby often because she's emotional built like a tank, but when she does cry, it hits.

[@jamesholland5761]

@@RamblersInc well said!

[@jamesholland5761]

@@RamblersInc did you guys know about the small Xray episodes in between this seasons regular episodes?

[@RamblersInc]

We'll be watching them all as one final bonus episode after the show

[@obelisk21]

The general idea is that the size of a ship (or series of ships) combined with the speed that it (they) transits the ring can trigger the entities that is why it appears random at first but there is a definite threshold which includes a time quotient. Basically the bigger and more massive the ship, the slower it should go and the more you should space ships out transiting a ring.

[@wagnarokkr]

It's like pouring water into a funnel. If you pour slowly everything's fine. If you pour too fast, the water spills out over the edge of the funnel and you get a big mess.

[@KevinLyda]

Remember, E = mc^2. Mass and energy are the same thing.

[@snarflcat6187]

You get a 90 minute ending episode, but you’ve probably already seen it.

[@theoriginalkimerli]

17:21 haha he’s seen Doctor Who!

[@RamblersInc]

😂

[@LeeCarlson]

Your "hamster" is Michio Pax.

[@madux42]

Michia Pa ;) not Pax. Although, in the show, she is just ever credited as "Michio", without a surname.

[@LeeCarlson]

@@madux42, because in the show all of her story arc was given to Camina Drummer in these last two seasons.

[@LeeCarlson]

Marco's XO is Rosenfeld and she replaced Cyn and Karal.

[@RamblersInc]

Why does it seem she's 10x more competent than both of them put together ?

[@LeeCarlson]

@@RamblersInc, because Rosenfeld joined Marco after he started his military campaign had was not one of his childhood friends. Also, Rosenfeld was created for the television series and does not appear in the novels at all.

[@RamblersInc]

Ahh ok. Shame. She's a very good character...or competent....maybe competent is the word I'm looking for.

[@saulcaldwell]

Great reaction fellas, as always. I think you've likely worked out that you're not going to get a conclusion to everything. The books are structured like this 1-3, 4, 5-6, 7-9. The next episode is the end of book 6. Without giving anything away, just trust the writers on this. They know what they're doing. There's still a trilogy of books to go. After the next episode, I'm afraid you'll just have to wait for a studio to pick up the remaining books... like the rest of us..!! 🙂

[@RamblersInc]

What's the split? As in how many episodes per book has it been so far? I'm just trying to figure out if books 7-9 could be done as a season or 2 or 3 or just a movie or 2.

[@DongusMcBongus]

@@RamblersInc That’s kind of a complicated answer because from season four on it’s like Game of Thrones, where a single season is a single book. Season 4 is book 4, 5 is book five etc. etc. But in the first three seasons, it IS the first three books but the start and end points are all over the place. Book 1 is like seasons one and two, books 2 is seasons 2 and three. And book three is like 8 episodes in season 3. It’s a blur lol. This could be completely wrong, but I read that they didn’t know how long the series was going to go on for so they tried to cram as much as they could in early on. It’s WHY the first three seasons literally do not stop after it gets going. It’s bombshell after bombshell. Now once Amazon picks it up, notice it starts to slow down, and operates like most shows where there’s a buildup, and then a climax, and then a resolution.

[@DongusMcBongus]

@@RamblersIncNow, I think they could condense the last three books into two seasons. But it would have to be at the breakneck pace of the first three seasons. I think book 7 can be condensed considerably. But books 8 and 9 really need time to shine.

[@bjohn1027]

They wrap up most of the major storylines but leave the Laconia stuff open because it plays a big part in the last 3 books

[@Tebelau]

You should probably watch the X-Ray's....

[@LeeCarlson]

The water tank being blown up is more meaningful when you realize that water is used for drinking and producing oxygen to breathe.

[@dallesamllhals9161]

Huh? 'cause WE don't need air and water in 2024!? (pretty much #1 And #2..ain't it...(sigh))

[@LeeCarlson]

@@dallesamllhals9161, because here on Earth we just walk outside and take a breath to have air. On a space station that air has to be imported and then conserved. And we don't lose water to vacuum if the container is ruptured. Isn't gravity grand?

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@LeeCarlson No shit! 'murica? 🤣

[@cliveklg7739]

They WANT to do more episodes, but there is a long time jump in the books so they are taking a break for awhile.

[@RamblersInc]

I suppose the question is...what is "a while"? 😂

[@cliveklg7739]

@@RamblersInc Well I think it is like a 30 year time jump in the books. I doubt they'll wait that long.

[@RamblersInc]

😂 I hope not

[@elvisibra]

Tadeo is actually a 7 year old, but they couldn't find a kid actor to play him, that is why this grown ass man is acting like a half-brained kid.. Oh no wait, Tadeo was always supposed to be a grown up 😂

[@josephkrengel]

I don't know... if I thought I had murdered my own brother accidentally, I might not act rationally either.

[@elvisibra]

@@josephkrengel That I understand. But the way it happened is how ONLY 7 yo would do, that is the point. Show made him SO STUPID only so they can use him as "plot device" for NONEXISTANT character developement of Filip which is just A BLEAK guy with ZERO importance, that the show can go without easily And don't get me started with making Inners complete PLANKS OF WOODS by making them fail to find those bombs there planted on ALL docks while everyone walking by them for a day. 🤷

[@josephkrengel]

@@elvisibra Yes, a 7 year old wrote the show. Very clever insult. I bow my cap to your superior intellect.

[@harleyw]

Gentlemen, I'm looking forward to seeing your reaction to the finale. But also sad that your expanse reactions, I've been looking forward to so much, will conclude. Great job guys!!!