Looking Inside A Broken Ferrari 308 Engine & Discovering Cool/Weird Ancient Tech! What The Tech?

[@LegitStreetCars]

What do you guys think of naming the series "What the Tech?" Give me some suggestions for other mechanically interesting cars. Cool old or new tech, weird designs, bad designs, good designs, crazy engineering, etc.

[@SuperPeterpaan]

Do old beatle, it's classic!

[@RJS027]

Yes

[@AJGreen-cn8kk]

I'd call the new series "LegitTech". Don't lose your brand!

[@rhull3939]

I like it. How about a tech comparison of a 40's Jeep to the new JL Wrangler?

[@ZigFlanker]

Air-cooled cars and show the carbs on the Ferrari being synced, if they do it.

[@melvingibson4525]

Alex was hand talking like a real Italian in the intro. The Ferrari brings out the heritage

[@ryanpaaz]

I was waiting for him to get close to the block and softly whisper in the intake in Italian to help fix it.

[@ziahreid9269]

I really like the idea of someone doing mechanical reviews on vehicles.

[@maxolsen9416]

watch the car wizard then lol

[@TonyRule]

As do I. Some quirky stuff.

[@philreynolds6018]

Timing belt service can be done without removing engine , same with clutch

[@richardremund]

Seriously, Ferrari dealerships do not do 308 engine out timing belt or clutch service. I’ve done my share of belt service via the wheel well and it’s fairly straightforward. This job however is more than a belt service yet still can be accomplished in car if the piston is not damaged.

[@glenmynard3926]

100% engine does not have to come out, I own one and do my own belts. Rear wheel off and wheel arch liner off and all is accessible. 348 onwards the engine had to be removed (up until much later cars)

[@philreynolds6018]

@@glenmynard3926 Also parts are cheaper than porsche

[@robhoard9114]

But these guy don't really know what there doing. I.E. shim and bucket.

[@BobSmith-by9vq]

Wouldn't let these clowns touch my 308. 6k for a belt change,wtf!!

[@dmcars147]

Engine out for a 308 belt service?? Well, that's the first I've heard of that. That alone would make me nervous about using this shop. "North of $6K" for a belt service on a 308? Let me rethink that...run from that shop!

[@andrewmclaren8890]

Yep, I've owned a 308 GTB for over 20 years now, and the engine has never been out. Belts are changed every 4 years irrespective of mileage - see some more frequent suggestions around, but have an older Ferrari mechanic and he is totally comfortable with that. It's a bit of a fiddle with the engine in - one of the gas tanks has to be moved an inch or so to get clearance for the belt cover, but after that it's all plain sailing. Costs around NZ 2k (about US 1300), so not that expensive (as are most other parts for the 308).

[@gerritvisser]

Exactly. But the babble sounds impressive for the video :-) I did my own belt change on 1976 308GT4, same engine. A couple of hours work taking my time.

[@glendford3854]

Definitely make this a series. Been geeking out with you over a year and learned a lot. Shade tree for life and enjoy learning and working on cars

[@Samcrac]

I could definitely fix this

[@pkt1213]

Doubt it. 🤣 J/K.

[@LegitStreetCars]

Duct tape doesn't count as a fix Sam.

[@aksgarage3230]

Lol! Yea right sam!

[@josecruz3582]

You mean auction it off

[@pkt1213]

Would need his step-mom's help.

[@andyroid5028]

*Ferrari owner: "So how many labor hours are we looking at?"* *Mechanic: "Um... let me call my accountant."*

[@GreenJeep1998]

Or if it was Hoovie and the Car Wizard, Wizard would be looking at islands, Rolexes, vacation mansions, etc😅

[@ikocheratcr]

Then accountant calls a loaner/mortage bank to contact the owner and negotiate.

[@ralphmordhorst9906]

Engine out for replacing timing belt is necessary for the 348 and 355. Ferrari charges 40 hours for komplete service. 308/328 belt service is very easy possible without engine out, just move out the right real wheel.

[@markfristedt3270]

The gearhead in me really loves the inside look at how things work. I will never own a Ferrari or be competent to service one, but it fascinates me.

[@michaelderkacz5526]

0:19 So like a doug demuro review but useful? Ive been waiting for this my entire life, lmao.

[@jonathanrabbitt]

Quirks and features is so, so cringe. Please mock DeMuro with reckless abandon.

[@maxolsen9416]

car wizard has been for a while

[@bhuuthesecond]

Fuck, that guy annoys me. He gives the most shit reviews of the most interesting cars.

[@michaelderkacz5526]

@@bhuuthesecond I agree 100% He makes reviews for 'car guys' who can only identify supercars. I wanna see under the hood, I wanna learn about weird design choices and engine setups Not some bullshit about where the glovebox is or how the interior buttons look.

[@Ratarossa]

Great video Alex .... Ive got a couple of 308s ill ping across the pond to you

[@LegitStreetCars]

Thanks brother, I'll take them!

[@aworminmybook8234]

You guys should do a collab on a ferrari. Preferably vintage and ratty. alex needs to get back to his italian roots!

[@jenniferfulbrook4370]

I love color. It’s nice to see one that’s not red, as much as I like that too. 😂

[@MrSnowford]

Exactly, that blue really works with the lines of the 308.

[@michaelsteyn5325]

If you don't rush and appreciate the process, fixing it can be a rewarding experience. Plus it's a 308 GT, you know your going to treat it with care.

[@MrPabsUk]

They went a bit overboard with the Italian stripes though, no need for them round the air intakes.. (would have looked better with a single, thin silver stripe).

[@classic1981]

It's easy to think that double or hard valve springs has to do with high hp engines, but as you mentioned, it has more to do with high revving engines. It's at high revvs valves start to float with to soft springs. High boost can also induce valve float at some installations

[@tjflynn1014]

Alex, I wasn't sure how the mechanical videos were going to be, but after watching this on the 308, I hope you continue. I am an engineer and it is really cool to know how things work. I really like seeing things ripped apart and then with your mechanical insight bringing the oddities to light. Looking forward to future videos. This is one of my favorite channels, keep up the great content.

[@billcunningham8485]

Would be a fun short video of your Mom hanging out in that shop, maybe in a comfy chair watching “her shows” and she is there to translate the shop / parts manual for the mechanic. Eventually the mechanic is sitting with your Mom watching Judge Judy. Your Mom then cooks lunch for the shop... “you are putting that transmission back in this afternoon. You need to eat! Have some lasagna.”

[@simonbanks3112]

I imagined Mom expertly telling the mechanic step-by-step instructions of how to rebuild the engine...

[@TonyRule]

OJ is so right. Quote every possibility and you'll scare most customers away thinking you're a crook. It's a delicate balancing act without x-ray vision.

[@rakmanyt]

Fiat 124 had the same style of lash pads. Worked on one in the 70's, the proper size pads were backordered 3-4 months for delivery in Los Angeles, the pad runs on a land around the inside outer edge in the cup.

[@philipdavison5904]

You can do the belts inside the wheel arch,no need to take the engine out unless you snap the belt

[@dj68k]

I hope you make this a series because this stuff is SUPER COOL to see. I would love to spend some time behind the wheel of one of these cars, but I can't imagine spending the equivalent of another S2000 every three years just to keep the car on the road.

[@moo3993]

Alex I loved the format! Finally more than just pointing flashlights at a car and talking about it. So nice to actually see the mechanicals and how everything goes together! I've been a technician for a decade, and old tech is what I love

[@Ratarossa]

Any ideas why the belt snapped Alex, it's pretty rare for them to do that. How long since last belt service in mileage time. I've had belts on my Testarossa and Boxer that are about 15-20 years old and look ok, obviously with rubber belts its impossible to tell from looks alone. Belts are easy and accessible on the 308 if its just regular maintenance its through the rear passenger wheel arch.

[@LegitStreetCars]

I'm not really sure but they did look old. I showed the broken one in the video. Can you tell anything off the markings on the belt?

[@Ratarossa]

@@LegitStreetCars yer I saw the one on video, really hard to tell with rubber belts. Car looked pretty clean and well cared for so was curious if there was any clues why it happened.

[@LegitStreetCars]

I'll let you know if they find anything. Now I want an old Ferrari

[@themessenger5868]

Hey Scott, what do you think of the colour matching (or not matching) of the interior ? Just wondering...

[@Ratarossa]

@@themessenger5868 not my favourite contrast if I’m honest. I love the blue paint but would prefer straight tan or crema interior

[@vumba1331]

The original minis also had a weird engine/clutch/gearbox setup with the drive doubling back from the clutch through a gear to drive the gearbox mounted under the engine. The engine and gearbox shared the same engine oil. Bit of a challenge doing the clutch if you didn't have the tools.

[@scottelliott1750]

This is why I love your channel. I like the tear down with the geeky details on how things work. Keep it up. Oh and can you stop making it look so easy.

[@fakhararestaurant506]

You're the one and only G Alex, huge fan.

[@jiristanek9458]

Ajoj Valve clearance is adjusted using these washers. There is a hook for which it is compressed, and special pliers come into those grooves and you remove the washer and choose the right diameter due to the clearance of the valves.

[@TheJeracuda]

Hoovie is selling a couple more cars soon so you can always pick up another project from him lol

[@rickybobby5950]

LegitRoadKill Episode 2, I’m in!

[@ryanpaaz]

Alex hasn't shown us his hanger to store all his cars yet. But, he lives in Chicago, he just push them onto the street to park them. No one will know they're broken.

[@jedkimmel4731]

Uh, you don't think that's Hoovie's Mercedes CDI in the background?

[@peterhelm6003]

Especially the Bently - made for KZbin mechanical horror stories.

[@ng-ht1vx]

@@peterhelm6003 The problem with the Bently is the time it takes to get parts.

[@sergeykuznetsov4314]

Okay the ferrari is great but that BMW with the color scheme from MW looks amazing!

[@MrJdubbya36]

Don't have to remove the lump in a 308 to do the belts. You go in through the passenger wheel well.

[@roberthatley7415]

Alex, to say I love this content would be an understatement. “Mechanical car reviews” literally something I’ve dreamed of content wise from someone with your knowledge, thank you sir. I mean it.

[@aksgarage3230]

What Oj said about customers is right. Giving a quote to a customer has to be explain very well. There is almost always something extra in there that will need to be addressed. I can not give out the total until im done.

[@JaimeC7]

1:32 that M3 colour scheme reminds me of my childhood

[@brianiswrong]

Thoroughly enjoyed this, It would make a brilliant series,seeing a striped engine and then a chat with a specialist mechanic to go through the good bad and ugly bills/ finds and parts accessibilities.

[@ezekielalexander709]

I like the idea of doing a "quirks and features" of the engine instead of the car itself 😎 "Legit characteristics and oddities of "legit street cars"" Boom 🤯 lol idk sounds good though

[@SteveGuy-qx2vm]

LOVE this type of video! Here are the inner workings of a vehicle that was fantasy material when I was much younger.

[@terryayager7075]

OMG !!! You brought back memories - a friend and I made a bet during a Naval Cruise ( Westpac ) on which one would buy a 308 first. He purchased a SWEEEEET 77' Yellow 308 just hours before me and I went with a Red 77' Corvette. Oh Man, those were the days !! Nonetheless, Thanks for posting this !!

[@MrAcc45]

Finally...someone who reviews on the wonderful aspect of technology in cars instead of how fast it goes, how great it corners, how many coffee cup holder it has etc......

[@christopherkraft1327]

Go with What The Tech, that's a cool self explanatory title. Love your videos!! 🙂👍

[@nathanbenich9204]

Great video as I love Ferraris. I even went to the factory in Summer 2003. With respect to maintenance, I heard from other KZbin channels that once the 308 is up to par, it's very reliable. Cheers!;)

[@darinschnoor4091]

I love the “tech review” idea. In-depth videos are always fun and unique, and your E55 series was a great example of that, I learned a ton!

[@danthemann6565]

Alex, I love the idea of exploring Automotive Technologies as you did in this video. Great idea to Showcase vehicles in repair. I hope you do many more videos like this one.

[@olejacobstalesen6558]

Cool video! I also highly recommend Tyrrell Classic Workshop, who shows how to manually balance these multicarb setups. Like, with a hosepipe to listen to the carbs, and a screwdriver. Engine whisperer.

[@NakedPigeon]

In my opinion, one of the most beautiful Ferrari's ever

[@joshuagibson2520]

I agree. I like a lot of 70s cars that people love to dog. Like 77 Z28'S. lol

[@Ren200Z_MotoringLife]

Awesome Alex , love seeing stuff like this in older iconic motoring legends, being in my 40s and been breathing living gearheadsness its great

[@GM-sk2wk]

This is a great video series idea. I enjoy seeing the mechanical quirks of cars I’ll probably never have the chance to work on.

[@alexjenner1108]

08:32 The European engine spec was 255 hp and redline was 7700 rpm so the dual valve springs were probably a good choice. The Group4/Group B 308GTB rally cars were 288-330 hp and revving higher. This was all before mass adoption of 4-valve heads, ECUs and before the wide availability of synthetic engine oil.

[@endall39]

Totally down for a series of vids like this. The anatomy of interesting cars is what draws me to rebuild channels. You just cut to the best parts!

[@GetrealwithSteve7]

Was just introduced to your channel, and I am impressed. Especially, with your character and drive, and to be so young and ambitious. Wow! Great content. Thank you so much for the additional information you continuously add.

[@themessenger5868]

I thought the QV 308 engine didn't come out until 1982, is this an original engine for this car ? Edit : No the engine does not have to be removed from the car to do the timing belts...only the right side wheel and arch. Easy job.

[@stuffandjunkandthings364]

You could do a series on bizarre drivetrains, the 308 qualifies, next do a Saab 900, or early VW FWD (Dasher, Fox)

[@Kohoso95]

I miss my transverse saab 900s

[@ne2i]

Well the saab 900 is kinda backwards....

[@CokiTCA]

V6 Busso's also have studs,and whats also interesting is you can remove the camshaft without removing the cam belt to replace the shims for a valve clearance.

[@markdavis2475]

First time here. Informative, clear, drama (and music free) presentation. Perfect thanks 🙂

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

Hell yeah Alex, that was great to see! I love digging into 'carnage' and the like of exotic and even just kinda rare cars.. You have such a great attitude and excellent delivery of what you see. Thanks SO much for the content!

[@braxtonnelson7422]

I had a 1965 Mercedes-Benz 190d that had a windshield washer fluid bag similar to that. It said "Wischen und waschen" on it, and there was a foot operated pump on the floorboard of the car... and it still worked back when I owned the car (1984-1985).

[@felipecabrera5468]

loved the format of the video, the in depth information of the car and engine that doesn't depend on hi tech to have interesting content, always nice to have a review from a mechanic, keep up the good work :D

[@hoppygoodness]

Have a blue one in our shop that I'm told came from the Chicago area. Such a great sounding engine and very much old school!

[@c1tr1c.]

Great video Alex!! Keep doing videos like this one from time to time! Nice Ferrari and color combo by the way (not sure about that brown carpet with red leather and blue exterior)

[@lordwalker71]

Considering most V8’s in the 70’s had like 120-140 horsepower this would have felt really fast.

[@cristian6766]

Especially as light weight as it most probably is.

[@JoshuasRecordings]

Yes but a lot of 70s V8s had a ton more torque. Like the 85 Corvette which had 230 horsepower but 330 foot pounds of torque. Or the 1976 Corvette with 170 HP with 270 ft pounds. Or the early 80s 305 which made 160 with 240 ft pounds of torque. So that engine would probably feel slower than all of those. Especially at low speeds.

[@bryanyokofich5021]

@@JoshuasRecordings My camaro stock came with 160hp but roughly 240ibs of torque. Felt so much faster than it actually was lol

[@JoshuasRecordings]

@@bryanyokofich5021 Exactly my point.

[@johnchurch4705]

Don’t forget this is for an American spec 308, the European models produced more BHP due to hardly any emissions equipment. Ps I like high revving Italian engines and nice torquey American 🇺🇸 V8 👍🏻.

[@windronner1]

What the Tech is a great name. But I enjoy your videos enough that I think combining, not separating tech & reviews seems right. Always interesting. Brings one groups interest into both groups.

[@davidlong5705]

Yes, Alex, do it! Anything you can add to the public knowledge will be appreciated - maybe not now, but certainly in the future. Just consider how knowledge of carburetor repair has dwindled. Keep up the fine, professional work.

[@ravennexusmh]

those shimable valve caps were the norm back then. i used to have a kit of various shims to fit the volvo redblock engine i was into tuning and it worked on my volvo 240, 740 and 940 from 1975-1998

[@J-Eagan]

This is great!! I’d like to see some highlights of well engineered things on cars that are notoriously poorly made in the public eye. Volkswagen and Audi products from the early 2000s are pretty interesting, lots of things break but there’s some clever tech going on too.

[@Johnathan_Waters]

Love this type of video! i would also like to see what the deal is with that Black Mercedes-Benz in the background! Another idea for videos like this, is the somewhat CRAZY repairs that relatively new German cars seem to need all the time....

[@chrisnava1950]

This is awesome and I'd love to see you tell us why certain engines that are known to be good (Chevy 350, Ford 302, 4G63, 2JZ, etc) are so good and so well known for reliability and acceptance of modding

[@swethabhakthanfanclub4509]

Please make this a series, I love this

[@viggendriver1975]

This was the best! always wondered how the transferred the power to the wheels. Do more

[@hoost3056]

The flat crank 3L Ferrari V8 just needs a little love just because nobody had their heads around what to do emissions wise. With modern material and assembly techniques and knock control you can get decent power out of them. All piston/poppet valve engines are the same.

[@Bluelinechevy82]

I really enjoyed this video. I've always been fascinated by older Ferrari and Lambo engines.

[@grindfor5]

Fluid is my kind of shop! Ferrari engine sitting next to American big blocks! Keep the series name and please keep doing it. Quick story. Have a friend who bought a 2018 Porsche 911 GT2 (amazing car) and took it in for an oil change and service at the dealer. Second oil change and they did everything that is suppose to be done per Porsche to maintain the warranty and records. $3000 service job. If you want to drive a race car on the street and pay mid 6 figures for it you cant complain about the maintenance costs. Great content keep it up!

[@simonthebroken9691]

This is cool. I definitely appreciate good engineering. Please, continue giving the estimates. The reality check helps.

[@sdemarois1]

Love how honest OJ is!!

[@patrickdixon4945]

Timing belt service by a specialist dealer in the UK is around £700 - £800. No engine out. However these are 40 year-old cars and things wear out (even without use). You should check the cam timing sprockets too - the early ones were plastic and should be replaced with the metal version.

[@2blkSSs]

It really says something about OJ’s shop that they have bare concrete floors that are still extremely clean. His place is just nice.

[@angelvelez6554]

Part II of the repair of that classic pues the clean up of parts and Eng bay area Nice

[@pkt1213]

I cannot wait for stanceworks to finish his turbo K24 swap 308. It is going to be a monster.

[@16v15]

He might do it well, but it's been done LOOOOONG ago...

[@webb4252]

@@16v15 Link to the already completed K swap in a 308?

[@16v15]

@@webb4252 From your question, it appears he was referencing the Honda engine of 20-odd years ago, not the KKK24 turbos which is what I remembered. Which begs the question, WHY the eff would you do that? One could at least do the Honda 3.5L v-6, which has a full complement of forged componentry stock. Oh well...

[@PlayinWithMahWii]

@@16v15 The K24, and K-series it belongs to is a engine family still in production today, and it has forged components as well.

[@ajw828]

Definitely a fan! Nice work Alex.

[@charlie1832]

Looking at the fender gap made me think of the Porsche safari car, I think the 308 would be a cool safari car like the 911

[@malussie]

It actually was used for rally driving!

[@bertram256]

Love the colour combo. Enjoyable to watch . Well done.

[@diamondrepairs1307]

In depth view of the Ferrari 308. Great color combo

[@mr.e7043]

Switches are always cooler than buttons!!

[@pi.actual]

Three points: #1 - A straight timing belt change on a 308 does not require the engine to be pulled out. #2 - If this '77 has the original; sodium filled valves you probably want to replace them all and #3 - If you have no mechanical skills or aptitude to do your own maintenance (i.e. you're going to be paying someone else) you might want to rethink the idea of buying a 43 year old exotic car.

[@elpepito957]

Hope this gets some traction, I also geek out on mechanical teardowns !

[@aaronbritt2025]

Yes! So tired of car reviews that don't even pop the hood. Also, the 288, 308, 328 are my favorite Italians, especially the '86 288 GTO. Those are "shim over bucket" lifters. Shimmed lifters are common on motorcycles and older cars. Machined lifters are a relatively new thing.

[@fahrfromrunnin]

Always appreciate different engineering, Even if it is BAD engineering... Gets the creative juices flowing...

[@cigarjefe]

I have a 308 in a similar spec. Glad you made this video.

[@andyroid5028]

Nice. I have Ferrari envy. : ) Q&A: *Curious, what color is yours? How often do you drive it (I assume just a few hours on weekends)? And lastly, do a lot of folks in public stop & ask you about your 308?* TIA for your answers. ✓

[@csebastian71]

Suggesting to do something like a Doug score but do an Alex score based on common upkeeps to an engine. For example, the labor cost and ease of changing plugs, water pumps, alternators, etc for diy mechanics.

[@josuehernandezrivera9472]

I think you have something good going here with this kind of video where people can appreciate this type of car.

[@h2oaddict]

Lots of needless bs, but no timing chain. Great engineering ferrari!

[@diesselxxl16]

Very cool video with lots of interesting information. Looking forward to more videos like this one where many interesting engineering solutions and designs are explained, i just love to learn more about these things and understand each car manufacturer’s philosophies.

[@alanhassall]

I’m in the middle of a valve check and adjustment on my motorcycle and the twin cams, buckets and shims look familiar. I had been quoted $1000 for the job. I was relieved when it ran after the valve cover and radiator went back on.

[@RogerM88]

An handy idea for the F308 and the F355, would be installing an access panel in the interior like the F360, for more easy maintenance.

[@misterchow]

It may be an urban myth but I've heard that you can replace the belts on the transverse engines through the wheel well.

[@RogerM88]

@@misterchow yes. That's correct. Matt from SmokingTire talked about that.

[@RogerM88]

@@misterchow I wonder if installing a custom panel would devalue or overvalue the resale value then.

[@misterchow]

@@RogerM88 I think I might have heard it from Peter Egan in Road & Track.

[@Nihil1st1347]

Those 308s used to be my childhood dream.

[@petertyler7062]

The main reason for the shims on the valve buckets was to adjust valve clearance. I owned a Kawasaki KZ1000 Motorcycle that used this method. A small special tool allowed the shims to be removed, to adjust valve clearance without taking out cams. Simple, robust but didn't like the very high revs of modified engines....would spit out the shim!

[@deanmarshall3652]

I really enjoyed this mechanical review. Something I haven’t seen before, but really loved. Keep doing them please. I don’t care what you call them, as long as you make them.

[@GQIQstudios]

I think it would be awesome to see something like this on Mercedes-Benz models from the 1980s/1990s. Especially to see what makes those so much more reliable compared to newer models since people always seem to say that.

[@timgosling6189]

UK carb 308s were rated officially (off the top at 250 BHP/210 lbft, but those were Italian horses and somewhere around 235 BHP is thought to be more accurate. The lower torque on your car was probably due to the emissions gear so if you get rid of that it should take you over 200. The aluminum pipe you can see most prominently at 5:00 is the fuel balance pipe; it's the 2 stubby ones in the middle that are for coolant. The good thing about running them under the cabin floor is that you get underfloor heating like a Roman villa's hypocaust. The downside is that in hot weather that poor old Borletti/York A/C doesn't stand a chance. You definately DO NOT have to drop the engine to do the belts; you can get at them quite adequately through the wheel arch. These engines do wear guides, and especially on a car that may not have seen too much love mechanically I'd change out all of those while the heads are off, and change all the rubber hoses and clamps all round the motor. I'm sure there's an equivalent in the USA but here in UK I use this as my go-to parts ID: www.eurospares.co.uk/parts/ferrari/308-gtb-1976/ Nice to see this video. Happy memories.

[@markkruzel7927]

Alex, Love this video and the idea of doing mechanical reviews of cars. Great idea!! I will continue watching.

[@2001chevycamaross]

Its okay alex, you have finished more cars in a year than tavarish has finished in 5.

[@tollefreyerson6710]

Great idea Alex with the new content. Great idea. Please expand!

[@jackexplosion]

Good vid, like the new idea. the 308 turned into the 288 probably my favorite ferrari of all time