Patrice Desilets on Ancestors, Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Movie, 1666 Amsterdam | E3 Interview

Timestamp shortcuts listed below. A new chat with Patrice Desilets (Creative Director AC1, AC2, ACB), about the latest on Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey! We also chat about the Assassin's Creed movie, recent RPG changes to AC, and the status of Panache and 1666: Amsterdam. Enjoy!
0:00 - Intro / Ancestors at E3
2:20 - The Assassin's Creed Movie
4:03 - AC Odyssey / RPG mechanics / What makes an AC game?
8:01 - What time/setting did Patrice want to do for future AC?
9:10 - What's new with Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey?
13:02 - Survival mechanics in Ancestors
16:10 - The defining element of playing Ancestors
20:40 - The latest on 1666: Amsterdam
Many thanks to Patrice and Panache for their time! Links to follow them below:
/ patricedez
/ panachedgames
/ loomer979

[@Drive637]

Getting rid of Patrice Désillets was Ubisoft's biggest mistake.

[@pascalfernandes6432]

Drive637 yeah just as big as moving junos story

[@Drive637]

Pascal Fernandes fucking true. What a goddamn shame.

[@nikolaivanov1278]

I think he left on his own accord. It was due to creative differences, and the direction the rest of the team wanted to take the franchise, but it was his decision to leave Ubi.

[@servered6569]

no he was terminated, they gave him a termination notice and was escorted immediately off the premises and he didn't get to say goodbye to his co-workers and get his personal belongings. You're right about one thing, it was due to creative differences.

[@DanishKabby]

The worst part is, Ubisoft's biggest mistake has still earned them SHIT TONS OF MONEY. ffs.

[@LazerzZ]

Hearing his voice sends me back in time to E3 around the times AC was first releasing and especially AC2 Love Patrice, always makes fantastic games he’s a master of his craft and I can’t wait to see Ancestors, bound to be special

[@ozzy5628]

LazerzZ *Bojack horseman crossover joke

[@lazarsorak9589]

LazerzZ This man IS Assassin's Creed. Without him, there's no point in following AC franchise anymore.

[@LMT1414]

FUCK assassins creed is shit😖...GOD DAMIT

[@zantehman]

@@evanfilarca1666 I... uhh... What? How old are you?

[@AmirJKhan2006]

Play Valhalla

[@J64866]

We miss him so much. You can tell he's very disappointed witwhat Ubisoft has done to his baby.

[@cromugus]

i think it also hurts him knowing what happened to his creation he was one of the co creators of AC seeing it being fully destroyed mustve crushed him hard but he knew it was also his doing for leaving ubi cant blame him Ubi was also a toxic workplace like they said.

[@darktempest53]

If only this man had stayed in on the franchise

[@pav2k351]

He didn't have a choice

[@sonofbeso2371]

@@Ma1q444 no, he was fired

[@sonofbeso2371]

@@Ma1q444 Yes, After he finish Ac 2 he left Ubisoft in order to make his new ip: 1666 Amsterdam. But the company where Désilets was working with (THQ Montreal) was bought by Ubisoft. After Ubisoft bought THQ 1666 Amsterdam was cancelled, so Désilets returned to make a new ac: ac Brotherhood, but, during the development of the game, he was fired If we want to say it better, Ubisoft said that Désilets left the Company, while Patrice claimed that he was fired. Honestly I give more credits the Désilets' version, Also because I can't see any reason for him to lie

[@sonofbeso2371]

@@Ma1q444 Yes, the First he left And yes, Ubisoft are idiots

[@dodesskiy1]

I'd not have Ancestors which I loved. BTW it's a complete opposite from AC, it's total and complete freedom to go where you like when you like. It's awesome he made it. And it's awesome that it still kinda plays like other games made by him in a way.

[@lazarsorak9589]

Patrice Desilets IS Assassin's Creed!

[@masanobuyamamoto6395]

And Ubisoft is Abstergo

[@Big_Tuna81]

Yep that’s why when you play AC4 it’s says your working at Abstergo entertainment, Assassins creed died with Desmond, and hearing that Patrice wanted to make a game like AC3 and the fact that he played it and said he doesn’t really like the route they went with it make me feel like the Pre-Production version of AC3 was probably what Patrice was envisioned for it took look like since AC3 started production almost the same time half way though Brotherhoods production, and this is the reason why I say the AC series died with Patrice and Desmond.

[@protectbabysif]

Wow, really enjoyed listening to Patrice's thoughts on his own franchise almost ten years later. That's such a weird situation lol, but great interview Loomer

[@simonvetter2420]

Yeah, it's sooo interesting. He's probably keeping the juiciest stuff to himself though, out of respect for old colleagues and/or legal issues. What I wouldn't give to see him *really* dive into it...

[@pascalfernandes6432]

Sif I realy wish Ubi Would Not have fucked him over. Like imagin him still working on AC. THE MD Would have ben more important Junos story Would noz have moved to comics and so on

[@Jack-sc3dn]

Fuck I love red haired women. Yes, I am a member of the Leo K Discord, thank you for asking. I have loved red haired women ever since the first one came out for PS2 (#OGGamer haha like and subscribe and hit that bell notification so you never miss a video) and no other member of the grill race attracts me more than that. So my question is, why the fuck is Elise de la Serre from Assassin's Creed Unity such a little bitch??? Unity, as you know, is an underrated gem. IGN gave it a 7.8 out of 10 and yes I did track down the reviewer who gave it that score and forced him to watch Leo K miss 5 point blank shots on a large dog in Far Cry 5. No, this is not Guantanamo Bay but that seriously gave me P STD flashbacks to Nam (American btw, if you weren't born in the 1960s u wouldnt understand cuz u arent an old epik gamer like I am XD). Anyways, I was walking around Paris having a great day, admiring the beautiful graphics, watching the citizens go about their business, admiring Arno's tight ass, etc just your typical PEECEE gamer lifestyle sunglasses . Then suddenely I saw a notification to meet a red haired girl at a cafe because she was hot and sexy and perfect for a rogue like me :thinkowo: . Her name was Elise and wow she was super pretty btw if I had to rate a video game character on a scale from alright to sexy I would rate Elise 4 Assassin's Creeds are deads out of 5. Anyways, I was going to ask for her phone number to have hot french sex on a baguette somewhere and i was about to whip my dick out epic style when she started going off on some LAME tangent about Templars v Assassins. AKA, ASSASSINS CREED stuff. Wtf am I some loser NERD?

[@cryptix_4517]

Jack ok i ain’t gonna read that

[@Nick935]

I love Patrice! I still don't know if Ancestors will be my kind of game, but the passion Patrice has for making games is super charming. When I talked with him about AC it made me so sad that such a creative mind was wasted just because of the greediness of the company... I really hope Ancestors is a great success and we can see more content from him ^.^

[@dodesskiy1]

Oh man I wish you tried it. Especially now that it's fixed up.

[@ozzy5628]

I think it's clear that he doesn't want to discuss AC anymore. Even still, please don't stop bringing him on the show.

[@loomer]

I agree with you mostly. I was wary going into the interview of asking him about AC again, and double checked beforehand that he was ok with it (which he was). I doubt I'll ask him any more AC questions in the future unless something super crazy happens, and I think the conversation will naturally veer towards Ancestors more as it gets closer to release and we have more to talk about! Patrice is always a joy to chat with and I'll always be happy to interview him about anything he's currently passionate about. :)

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

Loomer Can next time ask him some different Questions like what was the role of the First Civilization in the game and why he went with Roman Gods and not with the vastly Superior Sumerian Gods, who have an actual story of Humans being created as slave race.

[@TGAProMKM]

nice interview man.....

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@loomer Have you ever asked him about when Origins came out. I'm sure he will appreciate what Ashraf does.

[@dodesskiy1]

@@loomer Ancestors is all that matters. Great fun, open world. Insanely freer than any AC ever. Yet he's advocating almost that he'd not do it in AC. It's nuts. You never even brought THAT up. He knew it's time to do it now, I know it's time in AC, long since past the time.

[@DanishKabby]

It's like if you remove Hideo Kojima from Metal Gear.. You don't remove the visionary from the vision.. It's such a shame for any fan to realize that had this man continued working on Assassin's Creed it would perhaps be a very different game from how it is now, and we'll never know to what conclusion he would have driven the franchise to.

[@Voldemorts.Nipple]

We wouldn't have gotten the great ac4 but I'm sure we would get many more great titles because since act that was the only good one (I also liked playing unity but the story was terrible)

[@Yo_Soy_Andres_Cuetlachtli]

This comment aged like fucking wine

[@mozartcastellanosGK]

This comment probably don't know if Patrice would still like to do it like it will never end and my wish would be getting him back and end AC on a high note!

[@darkbornelines4587]

The dude who created Altair and Ezio. God I wish he worked on the games. His new game sound super interesting.

[@edwardkenway106]

Only two directors in AC I respect *Patrice Desilets and Ashraf ismail* 😍😍

[@baroquechevalier8516]

Edward kenway i wish Ashraf would direct every single AC game but we know it's never happening. He's the only director who respects the franchise and tries to innovate it, first 4 and now Origins.

[@Ibnlaahad5319]

agree

[@p.mrtynjy]

Ya man he made the biggest decision when he added motion blur to the game

[@matijota8728]

@@baroquechevalier8516 I'm glad to tell you that Ismail is agree to be the director of the next AC titles and even it's looking new team for other AAA games inside Ubi Montreal. I was very happy when i heard this news, becuase i think he is the only director after Desilets who puts real love into this franchise, considering that his two AC titles had been the most succesful games in the franchise after AC2 gamefragger.com/multiplatform/action/assassins_creed/assassins_creed_origins/assassins-creed-origins-director-is-looking-for-a-senior-writer-for-an-incredible-aaa-project-a12223?fbclid=IwAR1PrKkIc6NI9Kscl_M-6zvpwW2eUBLOLKH9puIumJer4FTjXNiFnPC-HU4

[@hacman8732]

Imagine an assassins creed game with those two at the helm as directors, with the writer from 4 sprucing up the script, Brian Tyler on the composer position, and a fully realized colonial America as the back drop and not the watered down version we got in 3. Desilets seems to have an interest in indigenous culture too which is why I wouldn’t be surprised if the choice as Connor as protag was a hold over from his ideas. Could have been interesting seeing some really ugly aspects of the revolution from a Native American perspective too which I feel 3 tried but failed at. Quick tangent to prove this point is the lack of any real mention of the Iroquois confederacy’s influence on the articles of confederacy and declaration of independence despite the story involving them in one sequence. Also very weird there was no mention of the thinly veiled racism behind the Boston tea party, the time Washington legit had to steal food from colonist due to congressional deadlock, or Ben Franklin’s racism towards native Americans, weird how close Connor is to him and no mention of it or his historically recorded comment on the Iroquois being surprisingly complex in government for what he saw as a savage and far less civilized people. Also feel the story of a Mohawk assassin fits so well into the overarching themes and philosophies of assassins and Templars specifically. Hell there’s a good moment Haythem basically makes the case for Connor and why he should fight for freedom when trying to discredit the revolution for installing a similar government the Templars would want with a select few making the decisions. Connor was so disappointing because he had so much potential in terms of storyline and his character if written right would make a perfect assassin ideologically, with the American revolution serving as a perfect backdrop for why he fights but alas we got AC 3 instead and now AC is just bargain bin Witcher.

[@h.i.x.2354]

One thing I really admire about Patrice is his commitment to originality. Assassin's Creed was an original setting and concept that had never really been seen in a video game before or since. 1666 Amsterdam looked interesting and bizarre, but like something I've never seen before. Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey looks like it's following suit with its prehistoric setting. Above all else, I just love the man's passion for this medium. It's clear in interviews that he loves his job. It's a real shame what Ubisoft did to him and his series.

[@Slotered]

It's the LEGEND himself!

[@Vichingo23]

It makes me sad to think about what AC could have been and know well never get it. Patrice is the true mentor of the brotherhood.

[@cryptix_4517]

AC valhalla is going to be made by the creators of ac4 it looks wayyy better than oddysey

[@divinuscontundito2748]

It's good to see him move on in a progressive way and making good games. Although I feel bad for him when he left. He was such a great impact for AC. Looking forward to Ancestors and 1666 Amsterdam.

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

He seemed a bit hesisitant to talk about AC, it seems like as if he doesn´t want to divide the fanbase too much, yet at the same time, he gave me the impression that he doesn´t really like it. I would have a lot of questions about what i think of AC and such, but i am not sure.

[@chocomelt44]

I also feel legally he can't be talking trash about Assassin's Creed and Ubisoft after the whole legal battle he had.

[@dodesskiy1]

He's proving with Ancestors that if he was at the helm, you'd oh so hate AC now. Total freedom, total choices. Hypocrisy is unbelievable. He's doing it, it's great, write your own tale. Others do it, you all go kill them.

[@nilakanthapanda7321]

@@dodesskiy1 AC and ancestors are different games with different vision. Ancestors is an open world survival game. So it makes sense to give the players complete freedom. Whereas in AC this type of gameplay is completely out of place.

[@dodesskiy1]

@@nilakanthapanda7321 After all these years you don't need to defend the old games. Any limitations they had were due to the costs and technology. Nothing else. Lack of choices= costs to record many voice over lines/ animate the scenes. Animus explanation for this, a way to explain not doing it. In time it all grew into a cult, a cult demanding outdated gameplay and limited play space. Come on man, you know that is so. Who'd limit stuff like that for any but these understandable reasons? Why defend it now? Did you hear they expected episodic from Ancestors too? He said there's no need, he can go full open world. It's all very simple. The tech is now there for it that wasn't in 2007.

[@Neurotoxiny]

Wow! I haven't even finished watching this, but this is good stuff! It's disappointing what Ubi did to Patrice, but I'm glad he's still making making games despite it all

[@arrivederciliebe32]

Was disappointed when I saw Odyssey, but it was nice to hear from Patrice on how he feels about the AC franchise that he started years ago.

[@EnnuiPilgrim]

Funny how Patrice looked at the camera and smiled when the interviewer said some players don't see the current games as Assassin's Creed games. 😌

[@Quaquas]

I will buy his game because he created the best AC games, not to mention the game looks very interesting

[@David-nq8cv]

Great to see another interview with Patrice, kind of sad that Ubi did the time periods that he wanted to do because now I wonder how AC3 would be if Patrice was still involved. The way he explained Ancestors made me more hyped than ever totes to him and I wish him goodluck with developing the game that he finally wanted to do

[@ThePreciseClimber]

AC3 probably would've been pretty similar considering Patrice wanted hunting and the game was written by Corey May, the lead writer of AC1 & AC2.

[@zenomight9274]

or desmond wont die

[@hacman8732]

ThePreciseClimber true but Patrice seems to have a lot of interest in indigenous cultures which honestly makes me think AC3 would have been focused on that aspect more than it was if he were in charge. Like yes Mohawk is used as a language and you see the Iroquois confederacy at some point but it feels like it wasn’t fleshed out more, like the indigenous parts of AC3 just felt like they were there to justify the Issu shit. You spend a lot of time with the Mohawks yes but again it’s all in service to the issu precursor stuff with not a lot of emphasis on the actual culture of the mohawk, which could show that the ideology of assassins and templars transcends societal borders given that most indigenous tribes favored an anarchical communal based societies that could naturally tied into assassin philosophy and ideology. (hell AC4 points out the fact a lot of indigenous people in the Caribbean naturally fell into the assassins just based on the anarchical society and politics they shared) Could be a great contrast to the Templar plot that could see the order try and control both sides of the conflict with the primary plot being them influencing the revolution, there’s already a good scene in 3 with Haythem basically illustrating the hypocrisy of the revolution that preaches freedom yet installs a republic where a select few control the course of events that already lays the groundwork for a revolution and American government tied to Templar ideals that existed even before their involvement. Instead all that time with the mohawk is spent contextualizing issu artifacts or the time is spent setting up weak plot points of templars encroaching on their land (which at the end felt like it was forgotten about when it should be one of Connor’s primary goals instead of dicking around with a bunch founding fathers who would inevitably encroach and wipe out the mohawk anyway, something that I felt could have been a great tragic irony for Connor if emphasized more) Like there’s little to no mention of how the Iroquois confederacy influenced the articles of confederacy or Declaration of Independence, weird too given Franklin commented on their government in a racist remark on how complex it was for a savage people and how a similar government should be implemented in the colonies.(weird there’s no animosity between Connor and Franklin for that racist tinge too given Connor is Mohawk and his tribe was a member of the Iroquois) AC3 to me felt very unsure in its historical aims that I feel Patrice’s interest in indigenous cultures could have focused the story into what I feel could have been one of the best assassins creed stories. A story of a Native American assassin fighting for freedom after the American revolution for freedom left his people slaughtered and with no home could have finally hit those themes of freedom and control in the assassin and Templar philosophies the games try but more often than not fumble in demonstrating in an interesting way. I will admit being a Native American does mean I’m a little biased and angry that one of the only Native American protagonist in video games is as bland and is as underutilized as Connor but I still hold the setting and choice of protagonist could have been perfect for the assassins and Templars conflict and was sorely disappointed by 3 and Connor despite wanting to like it more than it probably deserves. (Quick side note too since it’s been ages since I played 3 so I can’t remember if it’s there but how come there wasn’t more ugly shit about the founding fathers in the game like when Washington legit stole food from colonist for his armies due to congressional deadlock? Would that not be a good opportunity to show more of these crazy events?)

[@Big_Tuna81]

AC3 started production half way at the end point of brotherhoods production and even before revelations even started, Patrice was probably involved with the early concepts of AC3 that’s probably why the leaked early AC3 test footage looked like nothing like the final game because stuff got cut and changed due to new people working on it at Ubisoft. Which fu#%g sucks because the test footage looks so cool.

[@moi1310]

Hello. Thank you for this video, I found it really helpful and also to see the person that sparked a passion inside of me. Back in 2011, I played my first AC game. It was at a friends house, and I liked it from the start and I convinced my parents to buy it (mom was very sensitive to games). After AC2, I got the rest of them available at the time and after that I preordered every addition to the franchise. But for this year, with sadness, I won't preorder Odyssey. The reason is not necessary that I don't think it's a bad game, or if it's an AC game or not... It has to do with that it perhaps don't have what I'm looking for, something that the franchise has lost over the years. I keep going back to Ezios story. Sure, I've replayed every game at least once but with Ezio's I can't keep up the count. I think I might have figured out a reason for it. In this video, Patrice Desilets speaks about crafting your own story - and I think it's very true. Many people don't understand why I keep going back to a game I've already played, a game where I have the plat trophy (without trying..). But, every time I play it I have a different story. I see different and other things, and in the world I experience different things (oh all the stupid things I've done). Previously, I said I liked the game from the start. While that's true, I perhaps didn't love it from the start. I got other games I like, but not with the same passion. The moment I fell in love with AC tho, was perhaps towards the end. Where (spoilers) Minerva speaks to Desmond through Ezio BUT also through me. I had a chill down my spine, and in that moment I became so invested that I was not only the player but Desmond and Ezio. There are many other strong scenes and events tho that made me feel the same way in AC. But I believe, that I keep searching for them in other AC games and that AC can't give me that. I think the thing that made AC was just like he talked about in the video, different opinions and this sort of struggle between templars and assassins. I think it's also to do with struggles, but with living as a human. AC4 also gave me that, but not as an assassin struggle but through Edwards life. It's sort of weak in AC4 tho, and much stronger in Ezio. In Ezio we have a lot of 'meaningless' side stories, but they all build up his life. We follow a young foolish man growing up and coping with life. It's not simply about if Origins can give us a sequel, but if they can give me the same struggle. Going back to the Minerva scene, I've found similar emotions in other games. A scene in Horizon Zero Dawn gave me the chills as well, when Aloy confronts Sylens about Elizabeth Sobeck (namely him not understanding her). It dosen't have the same love and passion. But I've realised it dosen't have to be AC. I'm fine with AC just as it is. Going back to Odysseys. I will play it but I won't preorder it. I love ancient Greece and I would love to play a game about it. I don't think it will have the story I'm looking for tho, but I won't put my other feelings into it. I will enjoy it as it is, and I will enjoy AC just as it is. I have Ezios story. I will look for other stories. But his story is always there. Oh wow. This text is all over the place, as expected of someone just wrote it on the go. But to sum it up.. I love AC and will always do. But my game was Ac2. It was Ezio. I won't force other games to fill it's place. I will look forward to Patrices new game. Thank you for reading a fellow Assassins Creed fans text.

[@Quaquas]

Assassin's Creed could have been much better with Patrice Desilets at the helm!

[@EnnuiPilgrim]

Far better. Most of all it would have an ending.

[@chocobosROK]

Great interview! Definitely got some juicy answers! ;D I've always been curious about where Patrice would've brought AC3. In some ways, it relieves me to hear the American Revolution was the time period that he wanted to do because it means we didn't miss out on some crazy time period we didn't get to explore. In other ways, I'm just disappointed we didn't get to see his version of the game.

[@hacman8732]

chocobosROK From his interest in tribal and indigenous cultures I wouldn’t be surprised if Connor as protag was a hold over of his ideas, and something that always depressed me about 3 was that failed aim in telling the revolution from a different perspective. I’m hoping patirce’s interest in indigenous cultures would have focused on that aim of telling the rev from the perspective of a Native American. Mohawk specifically would still be a good choice too given they were a tribe nearly wiped out in colonialism and were members of the Iroquois confederacy, a government that highly influenced both articles of confederacy and Declaration of Independence and yet 3 makes little to no mention of that fact, especially weird given you meet Ben Franklin who commented on how the Iroquois government should be implemented in the colonies and how surprisingly complex it was for a people he viewed as savage. That focus on indigenous cultures too would go hand in hand with the Templar assassin conflict with the indigenous anarchical communal society being much in line with the assassin order.(hell 4 points out that Caribbean indigenous tribes just naturally fell in with the assassins because of their cultural similarities)

[@lastshanty]

Man, this was a really cool interview. Can't wait to see what Ancestors turns out to be like!

[@djb-123]

I was genuinely surprised when I read an Kotaku article and your video was embedded! Nice interview!

[@fadidabban]

Great interview Loomer, and my huge regard to Patrice as well. Down to earth honest director with a flash in his eyes for a great work.

[@bogdanoff148]

Good job loomer, we appreciate your work!

[@p.mrtynjy]

Wow they sat down with the OG

[@SaberEzio]

OMG 😲 !!! It’s Mr. Patrick .. You are the reason why I love AC Games. I really can’t wait for Ancestors and I hope to see some footage soon. Thanks a lot 🙏

[@svetlana_lite]

Great interview! Thanks for you work, Loomer! This guy and his work were the revelation, the discovery. AC now - is it not.

[@kvdash4696]

Thanks man 👍 for this type of content 🤓 you're awesome ...

[@TerrorTerros]

This man is the living proof that mega studios like Ubi, EA and Activision, stump creativity and are ultimately are bad thing for us players. Support smaller (semi)independent studios and skip the big franchises! Your favorite creatives will carry on making games, with or without their overbearing publisher.

[@TheRatedD]

*_Nicely done._*

[@regntonne]

I'm from Amsterdam and i want this goddamn game made already. I'm dying to play it.

[@ricthiamevans8980]

So looking forward to Ancestors.

[@fightmymonkey]

Great Interview

[@marcovelous]

Can't wait to play the game. His vision is always about players being able to play creatively. In early AC games there were many shortcuts and parkour control skills (e.g. Advanced wall jump) that players can practice. But these got removed because ubisoft hate him so much. With Odyssey, basically everything in the past is gone, and they try to make the game a witcher so hard, because of its commercial success. These days more linear, largely narrative and very graphic game got release because an average casual player will love it so much, only a few developers will try to allow fun in gameplay, freedom in controls and creativity in achieving objectives. Nice interview!

[@WesleyAlves42]

Mentor !!!

[@cromugus]

This man is a legend, he is Assassins Creed.

[@BosSupes]

Great interview ^_^ shout out to Sweeenie and Qwert

[@hoshizora990]

Ubisoft has been taken by the Templar, that's why they get rid of Patrice, he's an Assassin :3

[@simonvetter2420]

So sad to see him talk about AC3 and how he'd've liked to do it. Seems like he had it all planned out. What would have become of it had be been allowed to make it? Also, I actually learned a lot about Ancestors. I got the idea that maybe you kind of play as your genome? With what he said about the target being to evolve and the clan and kind-of-permadeath... we'll see. I just hope it doesn't get boring with the "players make their own story" concept. I don't know that this has ever been successfully pulled off. But I guess if anybody can do it, it's our man Patrice. I wish him he best of luck.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

After the oh so simplistic storyline of AC2, I don't know if I would've been on board with Patrice handling AC3. The Desmond ending would've PROBABLY been good... Probably. I mean, Desmond was barely in AC2 and Patrice was in charge of that game! Not even sure if he even cared that much about the guy. But I'm not so sure if Patrice's AC3 would've had an interesting Assassin-Templar conflict. It might've been something in the vein of AC2, aka - "We nice, dem bad. Let's get stabbin'." with no clever twist. ----------------------- Also, why has Patrice never revealed his planned AC3 ending? At least I'm pretty sure we haven't correct me if I'm wrong. But seriously - where is it? Would Ubi bust his ass for revealing a what-if scenario for a game he never worked on?

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

Nolan North said that Desmond would have become the Ultimate Assassin and destroy the Templars, but that might have not been true.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

@ATLAR TARPAN Patrice nailed it with the story of AC1 but he definitely screwed the pooch with AC2. The same goes for Corey May, the lead writer. But at least Corey (mostly) redeemed himself with AC3.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

> i really can't see what's wrong with ac2, it's a simple story about vengence, about a hero against people who took everything from him and so he fights them by becoming a master assassin That's exactly the problem. AC2 did not have the nuance of AC1. AC2 betrayed the franchise's identity in order to appeal to the mainstream crowd with its ludicrously black & white story. The "simple story about vengeance" had no place in this franchise, at least at the time. This is something that belongs more in a shounen manga rather than a follow-up to Assassin's Creed 1. The only major flaws with AC3 were the lack of Connor's ending monologue and how rushed Desmond's story felt. But overall Haytham and Connor's tale is of much higher quality than what AC2 offered us. Ezio only truly shined in Revelations, the game which brought back the missing depth after the dumbed-down AC2 & ACB. > Ac 3 at the time it came out was full of plot holes and was victim of really bad writing choices that only today we can in a certain way "accept" thanks to what we have seen in Rouge Rogue was actually quite a letdown after the superb AC3 & AC4. I expected another well-written "shades of gray" story but instead of that the writers just swapped the black & white morality around. Assassins became assholes and Templars became goodie two-shoes. Shay didn't betray the Templars because of a shift in ideology. Oh no, he did it because both he and the Assassins lost their communication skills and started accusing each other of nonsense. AC3 is just fine on its own and it definitely wasn't "fixed" by Rogue. In fact, Rogue diminished Achilles as a character. Is AC3 perfect? No, of course not. Neither are AC1, Revelations or AC4. But they're still the best the franchise has to offer. Top of the class. Genuinely good video game stories.

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

You can´t make a AC game always Grey and that´s true, but AC 2 did it way too much with it´s revenge arc, to the point of it being one of the biggest reason for the decline of the AC franshise since most people based thier ideas on how a AC should look like on AC 2 rather than it´s surperior precursor AC1. AC 3 was much better than Ac 2 because it was, first more engaging, had a better main character, more interesting combat despite the "plotholes" you mentioned. In fact the whole Plothole argument towards AC 3 stems from people, with no clear idea how storywriting functions and is mostly based on the fact that they don´t even follow the story. Only Few have given me valid Criticism of the plot like Desmond´s Death and Haytham´s existence. Rougue was just pure garbage and was an insult to AC and your Intellegence, i advice you to threat it as garbage, not a Mindful story like AC 3 and Revelations.

[@mozartcastellanosGK]

I hope you get to interview him again when 1666 releases.

[@XxMafiaChanclaxX]

We miss you Mentor

[@patricedesilets2818]

Gracias genio por haber creado Assassins Creed. Sueño con el dia en que vuelvas a desarrollar el juego, fuiste el unico que hizo bien las cosas. Gracias por tanto!!!!

[@m.rezkianandas.9346]

Just look at his hand gestures when he said Juno was killed in the comic, he looked very itchy to finish AC properly. Give this man his franchise back.

[@johnkrausse8672]

Great stuff a game with a real story!!! Patrice knows his games!!!!

[@regntonne]

Oh yeah and i would also love it if Patrice Désilets did a new Little Big Adventure. LBA 3 , how nice would that be?

[@bigray1059]

ANCESTORS... YESSSSS!!!! WHEN!!!!! 1666... WHEN!!!!

[@ameliepage1981]

Man I've never play Assassins creed. I only watched the story parts on KZbin. But it was great! Thanks for everything! AC1 and the following game till Revelations was one of the best story line I've seen. But since Revelation...the story line lost it's soul. I don't know how to explain, it just doesn't feel the same.

[@omarw7724]

I love this man

[@cosmicprospector2757]

Kojima & Patrice. Never forget.

[@VincentBrooks437]

The more powerful consoles get, the harder it is to pull off social stealth realistically. "Because it's tough," Désilets explained. "It's hard to make you believe in it. It's tough to render a crowd and make sure that players get that they're hidden. AAA is a lot about precision, in the character models and the rendering of the crowd. But I still find it interesting. It was unique and different and not easy to make. But maybe that was abandoned for something more trendy. You said AAA, and AAA, it's money, man. It costs a lot to make, so you need to make sure a lot of people will appreciate it. That's why, I guess, people say, 'We'll just do the hack and slash, and NPCs will be there but they won't be the main part,' which is a shame. We had something." Who knows, perhaps as the series grows further down the RPG route, complex stealth mechanics can evolve into a path that's more optional for those players who want to follow it? With that said, that's the kind of thing that sounds like a ton of work for an optional feature... We'll just have to wait and see what future games hold in store. Patrice Desilets From gamingbible.co.uk

[@dodesskiy1]

19.35 I so wish he did that in AC 2 for example, oh well.

[@TGAProMKM]

wow finally after 3 years...............

[@Magemo7]

A 40 Hours rogue-like 3rd person open-world where you elvove Tokyo Jungle style ? I'm so up for it.

[@chocomelt44]

I always wondered what would have happened to Assassin's Creed if Patrice wasn't taken off, and the team had taken their time

[@theentirepopulationofsyria]

chocomelt44 Nolan North (voice of Desmond) once talked about how the franchise would have had Desmond experience 3 ancestors (iirc) and then finally become a master assassin. It probably also involved some time travel. Would've been way more interesting than the diluted Witcher clones the franchise is becoming.

[@darna02]

@@theentirepopulationofsyria after reading your comment, now I understand why everyone says "AC died with Desmond"

[@TotallyToonsTV]

I love Assassins Creed but I'm so ready to see what Ancestors has to offer. The real deal from the original man himself.

[@koekiaan]

It has been confirmed that the choices you made won't effect the course of history, only in your personal story. So no worries about that Loomer!!

[@loomer]

Oh I'm aware of that, and I still have issues with the idea. One of which is that you shouldn't really be separating which parts of the story are "history" and "personal", it's all supposed to be history! Anyway, I'll make a detailed video on it later.

[@koekiaan]

Loomer Ah oké, I know what you mean... I also would like a full historical feeling. At the moment I really doubt Odessey as a Assassin's Creed fan. There wouldn't be a Brotherhood because it'll take place before Bayek and the formation... So it'll only makes me happy if this game goes about the origins of the Order of Ancients or the hidden blade. Otherwise I think it wouldn't feel like an AC game i.m.o. We will see and hope for the best. Thanks for the great interview! I'm really glad to have you back. Take it easy Loomer and keep up the good work!

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

I pretend that AC origins was not canon and all of it was just lelya tricking William.

[@NoName-yw1pt]

Why have you never interviewed Jade Raymond?

[@dodesskiy1]

14.30 are your ears specific enough LOL. Till 1 patch mine sure weren't. I had to time it all by the looks. But it's 100% better now.

[@evanfilarca1666]

When is his game coming out?

[@jimsnake963]

Ugh I miss this man so much

[@wilkiedriver]

After so many AC games, why not try something else, like moving forward with more RPG elements? I'm not necessarily talking about custom characters as in "I must identify with every character I play." After playing I and II, Syndicate and Origins, I think Odyssey looks like the best one yet. I'm ready to hear (again) that it begins and ends with Ezio's story, so come up with something else.

[@scrubby2]

Awkward.... should leave him to his new journey, dragging him back to AC is really cruel to him. He quit from Ubisoft, joined another company, in which ubisoft later acquired, he then quit again from that company before building his own career. He was uncomfortable the whole time talking about AC, and Loomer "okay-ish" replies when he talking about ancestors was a bit discouraging. Let's look forward to his new games from now on, he's done bearing the burden behind AC's shadows... or glory.

[@fairlywren3664]

KINSLINK Actually, Unisoft fired him after he refused yearly releases, and wanted to remain passionate for the games. Afterwards, he began to create a spiritual successor to AC. Amsterdam, you might know it as. After Ubisoft caught wind of this threat, they sold out the company and fired him again. They had a pretty intense legal battle, too, so that's why he probably is vague about AC. He was incredibly passionate and didn't want to yearly release because he knew that it would not improve the games.

[@dodesskiy1]

@@fairlywren3664 OK but I want Ancestors 2 this year. And I don't care if he's a hypocrite. He already was in that interview plenty of times.

[@ozhankaraman]

this dude is amaziing

[@makurorakudo]

I sure miss Patrice Desilet the Assassin Creed series isn't doing so great after he left. I stop playing those games after Syndicate, one of the problems I found was that Ubisoft is simply copying other games and adding them to Assassin Creed which in terms don't fit at all I mean Syndicate has Batman Arkham mechanics I mean what's next an Assassin Creed game having the Last of Us gameplay mechanics. I still wonder how would it be like if Assassin Creed 3 was done by Patrice what changes would have done and how will his version of the story be like. I still wonder what would have been the 4 remaining ancestors of Desmond Miles in the original idea.

[@memecliparchives2254]

The original idea only has Desmond, Altair and Ezio. Nobody else.

[@makurorakudo]

According to Nolan North he said that the original idea was going to have 6 games meaning 6 ancestors and we got Altair and Ezio meaning we only got 4 left but because Patrice left we will never know who they are or what eras where suppose to be in those games. Since Patrice said in this interview that he would have done the American Colonies meaning that AC3 setting would be the same except with some differences but I'm not sure if he would have done Connor or someone else.

[@theentirepopulationofsyria]

People who are wondering what AC would've been with Patrice still at its helm, check this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYLYdKGdo92kmLM It's from Metrocon 2015.

[@dodesskiy1]

12.27 He's driving me nuts, have news about part 2 by now already. I know it's a much smaller company, but still.

[@paulgarcia2834]

Hope he was in charge of AC Revelations. however I will definetily buy both of the games he is currently devoloping.

[@baroquechevalier8516]

9:00 So Assassin's Creed with cavemen was in his mind as well huh

[@grad1354]

Guys, do you know that Juno is dead? What the hell is going on?

[@timursakurov8041]

man is a genius

[@IronCityExperience]

He should direct the live action series right?

[@mozartcastellanosGK]

That would be a dream come true but there will be a better director for live action series, He studied in movies so it's better to ask if he's interested in directing one

[@spark0420]

Pleaaaaase just re hire him for AC, pay him what he wants, give him whatever. 😭😂

[@user-st8de2tz8p]

patrice desille best ever

[@lpmmxviiv2566]

Get him into a podcast

[@norseca542]

his voice is nostalgic

[@brinzul2769]

I think a point that is being made in odyssey is that people were doing assassin n templar stuff before they formed into official organizations, the struggle between chaos and order didnt begin with assassins and templars... Plus the history setting is just 10/10, THE BEEZ KNEEZ

[@nightblade628]

When you have a goose that lays golden eggs, you give it whatever it wants and keep it as happy as you can. If you get an egg or two a year, then so be it. You DON’T kick the goose and demand 10 eggs a day because then guess what, the goose fucks off and you’re left with chickens laying disappointing eggs caked in shit. Ubisoft found its golden egg-laying goose and didn’t just kick it, they tried to drown it, threatened its family, set it alight, and were shocked when the goose didn’t lay a hundred eggs a day for them.

[@baroquechevalier8516]

Lol Patrice stopped caring about AC. It's better for him.

[@jstout333]

Alex Amancio is the next best choice for AC. Bring him back and give him enough time to complete his games.

[@reecevince2166]

What a beautiful man

[@andrejurica6754]

If only Asraf and Patrice could work together,we would have perfect ac games

[@Voldemorts.Nipple]

He said he wanted to do the American a. If he has done it maybe it wouldn't have been so terrible

[@bobbyboom9]

Nothing is true, everything is permitted/May the Father of Understanding guide us!

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

They are not the same, the Templars believe in Submission and the end of free will, whereas the Assassins embrace it, they embrace Humanity. It´s the templars who are naive.

[@bobbyboom9]

Yuwan, Nope.

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

Uh yes, the Templars are pretty much the same as the rulers they overthrew, the only diffrence is that they used it as an means to an end, rather than the end, which many Templars, even thier inner sactum seems to ignore, so no, they are the status qou, but them. The Assassins on the other hand love Humanity, they even embraced it by realizing that people need to be given a form of freedom and take responsibility for their own lives. Nothing is true is to see the world as an illusion and everything is permitted is to see that law comes from reason and not divinity, whereas may the father of understanding Guide us is a clearly religious Rhetoric.

[@dodesskiy1]

Eye on the ball Ancestors 2. More news now, forget 1666. My thoughts throughout the last minute.

[@titularhero]

The fact he made the franchise and yet he saw the movie on the plane... the disprespect from ubisoft :(

[@mozartcastellanosGK]

He should be at the movie's premiere

[@Bloodylaser]

Wonder if he knew about the shady actions of Serge?

[@sambruh1410]

Jesper Kyd is back in AC, Darby McDevitt is back. We just need Patrice and Jade back. 😔

[@voiavictor]

I love Patrice and all he represents, but I can still admit, the team behind ac origins did a fantastic job. Maybe with Patrice it would had been the biggest game of our generation, or it would had flopped, due to different visions. Who knows, hope all will go well for him.

[@gabriel_alemdoaquario]

That guy seems a bit nervous

[@Fleathemighty]

I mean if this guy worked on Brotherhood it's pretty clear to me that he had run out of ideas himself. The series could have been so much better than what it was if only it had some better writing. The LORE was completely butchered in favor of eye candy combat and mass murder which they call "assassinations" for some reason. Their lore went from "a templar had some role in a historical event" to "every single conflict in history was an assassins-templars clash". Instead of taking more of a Hitman route and focus on assassinations (hidden blade or not) and escapes which give the parkour a purpose, they focused on public battles against dozens of military troops and civilian rescues. Which is ridiculous for the lore of a game which tries to identify itself as anything close to assassins (and I'm talking about actual missions, not random scenarios created by the player in the world). The whole "try to be neutral and keep a low profile in order to assassinate an unsuspecting target, preferably unseen" part just went "kill that one guy behind that army, and kill the army too. Don't worry, everyone around is just going to forget everything". Just rename Assassin's Creed to Mass Murderer in Historical Periods

[@mozartcastellanosGK]

Nope he worked most of Brotherhood and needed a break then he found out he's out, there's only one path which is resign. I'm PRETTY SURE he has ideas and plan with Corey May and Jade Raymond, it's because AC2 when it came out, Most people who play this game just want to go back to historical time period, Ubi knew it so they gradually get rid of the team and get some other writers to run with their ideas as long as this franchise sells.

[@dodesskiy1]

10.24 Pay closest attention old AC games nerds. He explains loudly and clearly why the first comments about AC Odyssey he made are full of bull. He explains why left to himself he did the opposite of what you like in the future AC games and what I hope never happens again.

[@jojocasimir1118]

I cry knowing that Ubisoft fire him he is a genius they got rid of the brain

[@nishantshokeen4279]

Release 1666 Amsterdam and we will play irrespective of the graphics.

[@kbubuntu6048]

ubisoft bring back patrice desilets NOW

[@descree7]

and the newcomers are mad at us for complaining. ubisoft ruined ac.

[@13Adrianne]

I love Désilets, heavy loss Ubisoft, heavy loss.