Loose Tenon Basics [video 481]

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Peter Millard

Peter Millard

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@brianpatmore8418
@brianpatmore8418 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, I do have the domino, which is great. I bought an Aldi Ferrex biscuit jointer for $40.00 Australian as a bit of an adventure. Although not terribly precise, I was pleasantly surprised at how good it is. I joined a pair of bench tops with it and was most pleased with it in the hardwood (beech.) That jig looks fascinating and I bet it has a few little tricks in it. Can't wait for the video to come out. All the best mate, Cheers, Brian
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian! I have the Aldi biscuit jointer myself! Works well, though the fence is bizarre! 👍
@nmancini
@nmancini 2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos, tips, and tricks. I’m still catching up on your podcast episodes but I’m enjoying all of your more recent videos since retiring and focusing on new KZbin content. The shop is coming along nicely
@ronh9384
@ronh9384 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your retirement! 🎈
@JBSeymour
@JBSeymour 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Draw bores in order to work need mortice only drilled first, assembled/tenon marked/disassembled then tenon offset drilled nearer the joint for it to pull the joint tight.
@georgiemae11
@georgiemae11 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, i was totally engrossed by this one. All the pros and cons of loose tenon joinery. Gr8 video
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@thedieiscast9729
@thedieiscast9729 Жыл бұрын
In the 1960 I worked for a door manufacturer who used loose tenons on all of his products. The top rail had one at each joint the mid and bottom rails two. A casein glue was used. periodically he would test a door to destruction . The joints were incredibly strong.
@nicowilson
@nicowilson 2 жыл бұрын
Supremely clear explanations. Thank you.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nico! 👍
@woodyourather7835
@woodyourather7835 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I bought a domino a while ago and used your videos to get up to speed so thank you. And your teeth are looking great
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! >>😬
@mikes6844
@mikes6844 2 жыл бұрын
With hindsight years ago I should have taken a sharp intake of breath and just bought the domino. I didn’t. Looking forward to the jig. Thanks for posting 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@bigmonkey999888
@bigmonkey999888 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Pete! See you next week Steve
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve!
@davidsneddon2242
@davidsneddon2242 2 жыл бұрын
A history lesson, a defacto explanation of the options, a detailed cost analysis of the potential options for all and a teaser for the future solution for to come. Peter you really know how to work an audience. Fabulous man. Can't for next week. Love it.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! I learned everything I know from QVC shopping channel... 😂 👍
@davidsneddon2242
@davidsneddon2242 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop showing your age now Peter 😂
@54mgtf22
@54mgtf22 2 жыл бұрын
Love your work 👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙌👍
@markhedquist9597
@markhedquist9597 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! Anxiously awaiting order info for your jig!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m afraid the first batch of jigs has been spoken for - most went to channel members as they get first dibs, and the balance went within an hour of the video going live. There are more coming, but it won’t be in time for Christmas. 🤷‍♂️👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm... I hope Festool is watching cause Peter just gave you an excellent new feature perhaps significant enough to justify a new model. Also, seems intuitive there should be an attachment for a palm router that could make the mortise -yes, yes.... already exists and it's called the Domino.]
@keithomuiri2993
@keithomuiri2993 2 жыл бұрын
Such a tease ;)
@warrensmith2902
@warrensmith2902 2 жыл бұрын
It's beginning to look alot like Christmas.
@conway573
@conway573 2 жыл бұрын
At $1,700.00 US dollars…you best be making a whole lot of cabinets to justify the expense…🤔
@garethkortegast7002
@garethkortegast7002 2 жыл бұрын
New teeth?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Had them a few weeks - the tip of the ongoing dentistry iceberg - but had the 2nd fit & polish this week, yes.
@dougsaunders8109
@dougsaunders8109 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop I hope the KZbin videos are going well, easy way to make your wallet lighter, got to the dentist
@animationcreations42
@animationcreations42 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I thought there was something different and I just couldn't quite put my finger on it!
@geoffreycoan
@geoffreycoan 2 жыл бұрын
Keep bedding them in Peter !
@V100-e5q
@V100-e5q 2 жыл бұрын
Did the dentist use lose tenons?
@Z-add
@Z-add 2 жыл бұрын
The chinese ganwei is making a simple domino clone using a router. Available from ali express.
@HawthornNZ
@HawthornNZ 2 жыл бұрын
2006AD - brilliant!
@flol4570
@flol4570 2 жыл бұрын
Not saying your ordinary videos are just ordinary, but this intro history lesson was awesome. So is the rest of the video.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@iankearns
@iankearns 2 жыл бұрын
As the domino was outside of my price range during my years making cabinets then the dowel and the biscuit were my go to fixings. Then got to grips with the hafele dowel and cam fixings which made flat pack a real option for site assembly. The idea of a loose tenon jig would be a game changer if I was starting out today.
@PSjustanormalguy
@PSjustanormalguy 2 жыл бұрын
Australian pricing for the domino DF500 joiner is AU$1775, or just over £1000. Gotta love the Australia tax put on by almost every tool manufacturer
@garnerboyd4206
@garnerboyd4206 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of times these guys that compare the strength of the Domino joint over the dowel joint are comparing one Domino to one dowel, true the Domino going to be the strongest. Apples to oranges comparison size wises. To be fair, two dowel joint 3/8 is more comparable to a one Domino joint 3/8 joint. I've seen many and have done these test my self. Both tested around 800 to 1,000lbs breaking point and then the wood broke before joint. Besides that if your not sure, just add another dowel are so while your drilling, no big dill LOL. Here is the real truth, the Domino's system is faster and simpler, that's it! Oh ya, and a lot more expensive. You pay for that speed and simplicity. If your in a real business, are you just need the latest and greatest and got the money go for it. Then you can have bragging rights on speed and simplicity, but don't get carried away on how much stronger than anything else trying to justify this purchase. This can be a point of diminishing return on your tool investment.
@dougsaunders8109
@dougsaunders8109 2 жыл бұрын
You have already got me to buy a Festool domino through watching your channel…… I am still interested in watching next week’s episode though
@chriscooper5875
@chriscooper5875 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter Great vids as always have you a list of items u sell ? Ie the 90 degree squares and the loose tenon jig plz cheers chris
@gordonclark7632
@gordonclark7632 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem with any Festool device is the price.
@priestland1
@priestland1 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect that trick of using two different size slots will have been unknown to some users of the Festool D. Don’t have the tool myself but it seems such a neat and strong joint.
@ThekiBoran
@ThekiBoran 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. I've got a cabinet build coming up and I'm going to try to remember to do it that way. There's a good chance I'll forget and cut them all wide. LOL!
@licurgius
@licurgius 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you Peter, making me wait another week to see your jig in action. This must be the must cruel-some cliffhanger I have ever seen ;-)
@idlersdream826
@idlersdream826 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Peter and you're really building the hype for the LT Jig now, you little tease 😂 😂 🤣
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I try! 😂👍
@jsfaulds
@jsfaulds 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention Fox wedging the stub tenon, no clamping required
@carloduroni5629
@carloduroni5629 2 жыл бұрын
Not a cabinet maker myself but... If a dowel has half the glueing surface of a loose tenon, why not placing TWICE the number of dowels. I suspect the cost will always be lower than a Festool solution. An alternative - much stronger than a loose tenon, I'm sure: carve a looong slot with a router and place a looong strip of wood in it.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
But also twice the amount of work. And the most expensive component is the nut that’s holding the tool! 👍👍
@jigsey.
@jigsey. 2 жыл бұрын
Feztool was around in Egyptian times,.... I'll get me coat
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 Brilliant! 🙌👍
@patrickbyrnes118
@patrickbyrnes118 2 жыл бұрын
The Rockler Beadlock system is also good.
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I was quite interested in your early comments aout the history of tennons and loose tennons. I wonder if I played a small part in that. One thing that I thing people miss is that there are often inspitational ideas in the past.
@joemclauchlan1974
@joemclauchlan1974 10 ай бұрын
when changing the domino settings, from tight to loose to very loose, remember they can only be change while the machine is running, something i forget all the time
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
Nonsense. That’s for numpties with no idea of how gearboxes work, who try to force it to change when static and wonder why it jams. Anyone with an ounce of mechanical sense can figure that out. 🤷‍♂️
@scotthancock6764
@scotthancock6764 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no you switched the size of the slots without turning the machine on. I was waiting for it to fail. 😀
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
😂 Next time I switch it on, probably! 😱😂😂
@johnridout8766
@johnridout8766 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative video. At last I understand that when you talk about wide and narrow slots, you mean, what I would call, long and short slots. For me, the width of the slot is always 8mm or whatever. When you do your jig video next week, it would be great if you could include some links to retailers of suitable router bits, eg 8mm upward spiral bits.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I always use the bit size as the thickness, the side-to-side dimension as the width, and the depth of the plunge. And yes, there’ll be a starter pack available with a 5mm spiral upcut bit, some dominos and the option of a Trend 18mm guide bush. Links to other bits etc… as well of course.
@cuebj
@cuebj 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop Looking forward to it. Got a Trend T4 ready to set up as a budget Festool Domino slot cutter the moment you started talking about the jig. The T4 is not made to Trend historical big router quality. Had to take it apart to improve threads and and plunging smoothness.
@aaronharris5275
@aaronharris5275 2 жыл бұрын
Good point about the glue surface area of the simple dowel. But I suppose you could add a lot more dowels to increase the strength. I do like the festool but still out of reach for the home maker like me. I think Get Hands Dirty made some kind of router jig. I wander if a morticer machine could work and ripping up strips of ply for loose tenons? Good history lesson there too!
@garnerboyd4206
@garnerboyd4206 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of times these guys that compare the strength of the Domino joint over the dowel joint are comparing one Domino to one dowel, true the Domino going to be the strongest. Apples to oranges comparison size wises. To be fair, two dowel joint 3/8 is more comparable to a one Domino joint 3/8 joint. I've seen many and have done these test my self. Both tested around 800 to 1,000lbs breaking point and then the wood broke before joint. Besides that if your not sure, just add another dowel are so while your drilling, no big dill LOL. Here is the real truth, the Domino's system is faster and simpler, that's it! Oh ya, and a lot more expensive. You pay for that speed and simplicity. If your in a real business, are you just need the latest and greatest and got the money go for it. Then you can have bragging rights on speed and simplicity, but don't get carried away on how much stronger than anything else trying to justify this purchase. This can be a point of diminishing return on your tool investment.
@freddiedoyle472
@freddiedoyle472 2 жыл бұрын
Bringing a product like this to market , I'd just one more thing that makes this guy awsome ! Thanks for everything Peter
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙌 👍
@alyc9473
@alyc9473 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter I'm really interested in your loose tenon jig, and not wishing to jump ahead of next weeks video can I ask a couple of questions. Will the jig work with 15mm ply, I'm going to be building some lightweight ply cabinets for my sons campervan. Is it possible to use a palm router rather then a full size machine with the jig. Thanks Kev keep up the excellent work.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. It’s set for 18mm but you can use it with 15/12mm by using shims to centre it, and with 22/25mm though obvs the doms will be off-centre at those thicknesses. With 15mm you’ll have to reduce the plunge depth to 12/12 or so, and you’d need to cut the dominos down to 24mm, or accept the less than ideal option of a 12/18 plunge. Palm router is fine, but it needs to be in a plunge base. 👍👍
@alyc9473
@alyc9473 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so for your detailed reply. Let's hope I can get my hands on one of the jigs in the near future it looks like the first batch are already accounted for.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍
@PICAREIMON
@PICAREIMON 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Peter , how are you 🙋‍♂️😎👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Well, thanks! 👍
@kamransaleem6835
@kamransaleem6835 2 жыл бұрын
I want one. Tell me more. When, where, how much?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
As I say in the vid - join me next week for the introduction video. Just FYI the initial batch has already been spoken for. 👍👍
@jscook54
@jscook54 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to sell those jigs? I bought your plans but would be interested in already built jig.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, though I’m afraid the initial batch has already sold out. There’ll be more coming, for sure. 👍👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍
@Js-ix2gx
@Js-ix2gx 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of ad-on do you use on the festool dominoo
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a domi-plate from Seneca woodworking. I explain a bit more about its uses in the 10 years of Domino videos, P1 here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/baDblWWHo9usrZI
@deanobenito
@deanobenito 2 жыл бұрын
New knashers Peter? Looking good buddy😁👌
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
The tip of the dentistry iceberg! 😂
@deanobenito
@deanobenito 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop 😁
@frankslittleworkshop
@frankslittleworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
😁 Nicely done as always Peter, with some history thrown in for good measure.... my Sunday is complete 😁👍.
@ahorton6786
@ahorton6786 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Id love to be able to justify buying one but they're outside my price range. Very interested in the next video if the benefits can be had in a less expensive jig/system.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@gavjav1
@gavjav1 2 жыл бұрын
naughty Peter changing the width setting without running the domino ; )
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right? Mad, bad and dangerous. 🤷‍♂️😂
@gavjav1
@gavjav1 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop 😂😂😂
@markrowland5393
@markrowland5393 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@danyodice1048
@danyodice1048 2 жыл бұрын
Great info Peter. I'm a novice to intermediate woodworker (hobby) and didn't know about the different settings of the mortise. I'll definitely try one of your jigs when it's available...🤘🤘🤘
@26tp
@26tp 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing your jig. I hope the jig and shipping, to Australia, is within a price point that I don't think it's better to make my own based on your design.
@mikeenglish7063
@mikeenglish7063 2 жыл бұрын
I quite like sliding dove tails . Dado joints, and stopped versions. Or in a rush pocket holes, . Home made loose tenons .
@markbryan9989
@markbryan9989 2 жыл бұрын
Loose tenons are certainly a great way to do joinery. For those of us that can't afford a Festool, Rockler's beadlock system works very well. I have used it successfully with tables and cabinets. Yes, it is slower than a Festool machine but it is also only about $50 to get the system. Good video! Thanks Peter.
@NWGR
@NWGR 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your tenon jig video Peter! I built one very similar but would love to see your take on it.
@paulbrewer3980
@paulbrewer3980 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone using the Domino on the wide setting, maybe pottery is your thing.
@awantamta
@awantamta 2 жыл бұрын
History and woodworking all in one 10 minute video; brilliant ! If only you were there when Stonehenge was built
@MINGLE2008
@MINGLE2008 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very interesting video.
@JimE6243
@JimE6243 2 жыл бұрын
Nice new smile! 😁 JimE
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! >>😬
@normanboyes4983
@normanboyes4983 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter.👍 Personally, I think anyone who cannot stump up £750 for a Festool Domino needs to take over the housekeeping piggy bank.😉
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 Cheers Norman!
@emm_arr
@emm_arr 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I didn't subscribe yonks ago. That's now fixed. Thanks, Peter. You've done so many good videos and certainly got me thinking for the last few years.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙌👍
@josephthurmond4005
@josephthurmond4005 2 жыл бұрын
Continuing to watch from Boerne, Texas. Always learning from the videos.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joseph! 👍
@blackbird-25
@blackbird-25 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the jig! I bought the larger domino machine and was horrified at the price, it's even more now. But having said that it's worth every penny. I've since bought the Seneca adapter that allows me to use the cutters for the smaller machine I have grave doubts about festools business model but their tools are first class. Especially when you think the Domino machine replaces a morticer and a tenoner and lives in its box when not in use
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Full jig demo in the current video.👍
@mick882
@mick882 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for next week Peter. Thanks
@normancoutts
@normancoutts 2 жыл бұрын
You are such an old tease Peter. You have us all salivating over that loose tenon jig already. Trouble is, you will never keep up with demand! Wishing you and them every success. :-)
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Norman! 👍
@aloysiussnailchaser272
@aloysiussnailchaser272 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks. I'm surprised you didn't mention biscuits.I'm an very occasional woodworker and I've found that they work well. I don't have a biscuit jointer but use a router bit with a standard router. It's obviously not as fast as a dedicated device and needs precise measurement but it gets the job done pretty well.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I understand where you're coming from, but this video is about Loose Tenon Basics, not 'how to join your cabinets together' - I did that in P3 of the Cabinetry workshop series earlier in the year, playlist here - bit.ly/CabinetryBasics 👍
@OldManTony
@OldManTony 2 жыл бұрын
Being a skinflint I’m looking forward to next week’s video 😂😂
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
😂 👍
@nolanhills9587
@nolanhills9587 2 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic loose tenon basics video. Can I suggest expanding on it? I'm following your videos and understand the jig direction.....but ideally I'd enjoy another 10 minutes of the basic loose tenon examples :)
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! There’ll be a more detailed explainer video when the jig officially launches, and the odd project video coming along as well. 👍👍
@mururoa7024
@mururoa7024 2 жыл бұрын
I was not aware archeologists found Festool dominos dating back all the way to 2006! Absolutely amazing! 😉
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
They clean up really well, apparently. 😂👍
@jasonm.7358
@jasonm.7358 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Peter, as always. I’ll have to pick up the jig, when I can. Two questions (darn engineers). I’ve also read that “the round ends of the tenon add no strength”, to which I ask “then how does a dowel add any strength, it’s all rounded end?” I’m sure I’m missing something. Other question was, does it ever make sense to pin the domino by shooting a pin or brad through one or both ends of the domino once the joint is assembled? Seems like it would add some strength, though it won’t pull the joint together.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason. Dowels get their strength from being a tight fit - as I show in the vid, 6mm dowel in a 6mm hole and it’s very strong. But there’s no wiggle room, it’s a joint that demands precision. Because loose tennis get their strength from the faces of the tenon, the slightly wider slot doesn’t affect the strength. And yes, not uncommon to pin through a domino - means you can take it out of clamps sooner. 👍👍
@carllamb6711
@carllamb6711 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter Very interesting video this week mate. Can’t wait for next week now Thanks mate 👍👍👍👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Carl! 👍👍
@EcoHamletsUK
@EcoHamletsUK 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a bench morticer years ago, but have never used it. I'm currently setting up my new improved workshop, and was hoping to start using it, but it won't drill mortices in the ends of long bits of wood. Maybe I'll have to learn to make olde fashioned mortices and tenons! At least I've now got a bandsaw to help me!
@ZenoErwt
@ZenoErwt 2 жыл бұрын
What model do you have ? Perhaps something can be changed to make it able to drill mortises at the end of long pieces
@WinoSnip
@WinoSnip 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Peter, nice and clear video again! If someone is looking for a cheaper loose tenon solution, then a Lamello router could be mentioned. Not with the pins but fast to operate. There are Lamello routers from many brands, not only from Lamello - and some are really low cost. What I recall of the loose tenon history from the recent past is that it actually was Lamello who started with hand held tools for this purpose. The fact that the (earlier) cheap chip wood (material) is quite unsuitable for dowels (the quality of the material is too poor), that initiated the development of the Lamello as well, as I understood. Another detail: the pins which your Domino router has (and mine) are only on the older Dominos. The newer ones do have some kind of plastic wedge like spring loaded thingie. Reason is that these pins were / are patented by Mafell for their Duo Doweler machine (DDF40 / DD40). Therefore the newer Domino routers have to do without (see the Festool site). We have been playing with the idea to make a comparison between the Festool Domino, Mafell Duo Doweler and the Lamello Classic X - maybe one day… Kind regards, Wino
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wino! I did a video comparing the Domino, the Lamello Zeta and the Mafell doweller; biscuit jointers are slightly different -less so for cabinetry - but you couldn't use one for the T-joint I showed as a mortice and tenon, whereas the Domino or dowels would be fine. 👍
@PAULOatham
@PAULOatham 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next video!!! - Thanks Peter!!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul! 👍
@STEELCITYDRONEPILOT
@STEELCITYDRONEPILOT 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the mention in this Peter 👌🏻awesome stuff
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul! Great footage, and really appreciate you letting me sample some of it. 🙌 👍
@hansdegroot8549
@hansdegroot8549 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing . I don't have much time these days to watch videos. This is the first since one week or so. I'm looking forward to the video with the jig.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hans!
@sjfarrell2.03
@sjfarrell2.03 2 жыл бұрын
I hope next weeks unveil has a link/option to purcahse, Peter. Early next year, I have a couple of home projects that would suit loose tenon joinery 👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
First run has already sold out I’m afraid, but there’ll be another along very soon! 👍
@martinlouden9005
@martinlouden9005 2 жыл бұрын
Great video peter. I couldn't justify the cost of a domino machine, and would definitely not be able to get the missus's approval!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Totally understand! 😂 👍
@brucewelty7684
@brucewelty7684 2 жыл бұрын
Picky Yank here, the assembly of both oversize slots, Why not put the Domi's in the horizontal one rather than the moveable one?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Won’t make any difference - if the dominos can move, they will, no matter which mortice they’re in. 👍
@MrMartinburgar
@MrMartinburgar 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Peter enjoy all you're vids, I have a double dowel machine from mcalister a b&q brand had it for many years and used with good success IF you take one of the drills out and if you drill the hole twice moving the drill from one side of the pencil line to the other that way you can get a spot of lateral movement and you can drill half holes in a row to get the festool domino's to work
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin! Haven’t seen a MacAllister branded doweller, but pretty sure it’s out of the same mould as the Triton; I bought three of those and returned them all. I do take your point about lateral movement to give a bit of wiggle room, but my point still stands - that dowels get their strength from close contact all around the circumference of the dowel - widening the hole laterally will make a weaker joint, because the only points I’d contact are either side of the dowel where it touches, not all around. 👍👍
@aerobill8554
@aerobill8554 2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video Peter. Still getting better all the time. Love the jig. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Best wishes from London!
@chrisnash2154
@chrisnash2154 2 жыл бұрын
When does the patent for the domino end? I’m sure as soon as that happens there will be competition and the price will drop.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Like the was in plunge saws?? Took a fair few year before for the Dewalt and Makita, and a decade or so before the supermarket saws became a thing.👍👍
@iwanyoung6071
@iwanyoung6071 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that really helpful video. Can’t wait for the next video I have been looking for a system to use as I have no mains power in my workshop so have to use cordless tools.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I plan to be using a cordless router for the demo. 👍
@johntaylor2489
@johntaylor2489 2 жыл бұрын
Teaser trailer ......
@amconsole
@amconsole 2 жыл бұрын
Simple and very informative. Is that add-on edge plate for the domino router still for sale somewhere?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s a Seneca woodworking domi-plate. They’ll pop up if you Google them. 👍👍
@chipperkeithmgb
@chipperkeithmgb 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting videos but you could use fox tale wedges on a stop tenon
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
OK. 🤷‍♂️
@paulevans3827
@paulevans3827 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter another good video does the domino have four wheels and an engine, if so I might purchase one👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Not that I know of! 😂
@NorthWalesCampers
@NorthWalesCampers 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooo can’t wait for next weeks video. I’ll be having one defo.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! All indications are that the initial run is already sold out, I'm afraid. Trying to get another one set up, but timings are very tight! 🤷‍♂️ 👍
@NorthWalesCampers
@NorthWalesCampers 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop I’m hoping I’m one of those as I’d been commenting on your insta page and filled in the form for one. Xmas pressie from the wife.
@drewfoxworthy1057
@drewfoxworthy1057 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! What is the after-market plate that is attached to your domino?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
It's a "domi-plate' from seneca woodworking - if you google them they'll pop up. 👍
@darren990
@darren990 2 жыл бұрын
them tenons bring back the college days and was done by hand lol
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right! 😕 😂
@tworiversworkshop6111
@tworiversworkshop6111 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Looking forward to next week and the launch of the new jig!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dawn! 👍
@Extragonk
@Extragonk 2 жыл бұрын
Aw man, 1st batch is closed!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, sorry! 🤷‍♂️
@pennyroyal3813
@pennyroyal3813 2 жыл бұрын
I came here for the Archimedes chat and ended up with the Phoenicians.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I know, mad right?? 🤷‍♂️😂
@robertdavies3842
@robertdavies3842 2 жыл бұрын
Any tips for joining 15mm melamine boreds with out exposing screws
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Many, many options, from pocket-holes, dominos, biscuits, lamello clamex or tenso, or the peanut 2 fittings. 👍
@robertdavies3842
@robertdavies3842 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks
@negotiableaffections
@negotiableaffections 2 жыл бұрын
Great, informative video, Peter. I've just 'invested' in the wolfcraft dowelling jig, although its definitely upped my game its rather a lot of faffing about to get it set up, so, your next video is eagerly awaited here.
@negotiableaffections
@negotiableaffections 2 жыл бұрын
btw it was through your video series that I took, 'the plunge' and bought the workzone track saw. Its a godsend to a man who has to empty his 'tool-cupboard' to drag out the tablesaw. Cheers mate.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith! Yes, portability is a big plus with plunge saws! 🙌👍👍
@raycarnis9540
@raycarnis9540 2 жыл бұрын
The Domino patent will be up soon, and you'll be able to buy one from Bangood for £40. Two or three years maybe.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
But will they be worth buying? Think Triton Doweller... 🤷‍♂️
@raycarnis9540
@raycarnis9540 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshopProbably be just about good enough to be really annoying. With a bit more engineering the Triton doweller could have been a useful machine.. Your jigs will sell like hot cakes.
@ZenoErwt
@ZenoErwt 2 жыл бұрын
It does always amaze me that festool is the only company selling the loose tenons precut. As if they have a patent on it (the sizing perhaps , but that would make no sense). Luckily they are easy enough to make yourself. Cheers Peter :)
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Franz-Robert! Taylor tools in the US sell ore-made dominos, but only in the 6mm size, I think. And I’m pretty sure someone else (woodpecker??) sell continuous lengths of domino-compatible loose tenon stock. But yes, it is odd that nobody has jumped in to fill the void, like they have with biscuits. 🤷‍♂️👍
@ZenoErwt
@ZenoErwt 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop weird indeed. Woodpecker has them I see , goes well with their 800 Eur morty jig (insane ! ). And after some really thorough searching I found some long stock on aliexpress. Wonder if there is a business plan here 🤔 🤩😍
@KrisG619
@KrisG619 2 жыл бұрын
Your dowel video is unavailable
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Weird, thanks for the heads-up. Try this link; Dowel Jig Basics - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIXNkJuferuZrNk 👍
@craigpeel5995
@craigpeel5995 2 жыл бұрын
Nice lead in to your new jig Peter 👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Smooth, right? 😂 👍
@FuzzyScaredyCat
@FuzzyScaredyCat 2 жыл бұрын
"Your response has been recorded." - What sized guide bush is your jig designed to use and which sized dominos?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
👍 18mm.There’ll be a starter pack available with router bit, dominos and the option of a Trend 18mm guide bush as well.
@brucecarlton667
@brucecarlton667 2 жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop Great tease. Peter. Will the 10 minute jig be available to your fanatical US viewers
@deanwinch7979
@deanwinch7979 2 жыл бұрын
What about the Biscuit joiner
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I had a short section that referenced it, but cut it as it just muddied the water. This isn’t ‘my 5 favourite jointing methods’ it’s a basic explainer I’d loose tenons, and a biscuit jointer couldn’t make the T-joint where I used the M&T and Loose tenon; a Domino and a dowel could though. 👍👍
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