Loose Tenon Basics [video 481]

[@davidsneddon2242]

A history lesson, a defacto explanation of the options, a detailed cost analysis of the potential options for all and a teaser for the future solution for to come. Peter you really know how to work an audience. Fabulous man. Can't for next week. Love it.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks David! I learned everything I know from QVC shopping channel... 😂 👍

[@davidsneddon2242]

@@10MinuteWorkshop showing your age now Peter 😂

[@Hawthorn-nz]

2006AD - brilliant!

[@flol4570]

Not saying your ordinary videos are just ordinary, but this intro history lesson was awesome. So is the rest of the video.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 👍

[@iankearns]

As the domino was outside of my price range during my years making cabinets then the dowel and the biscuit were my go to fixings. Then got to grips with the hafele dowel and cam fixings which made flat pack a real option for site assembly. The idea of a loose tenon jig would be a game changer if I was starting out today.

[@awantamta]

History and woodworking all in one 10 minute video; brilliant ! If only you were there when Stonehenge was built

[@freddiedoyle472]

Bringing a product like this to market , I'd just one more thing that makes this guy awsome ! Thanks for everything Peter

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 🙌 👍

[@brianpatmore8418]

Hi Peter, I do have the domino, which is great. I bought an Aldi Ferrex biscuit jointer for $40.00 Australian as a bit of an adventure. Although not terribly precise, I was pleasantly surprised at how good it is. I joined a pair of bench tops with it and was most pleased with it in the hardwood (beech.) That jig looks fascinating and I bet it has a few little tricks in it. Can't wait for the video to come out. All the best mate, Cheers, Brian

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Brian! I have the Aldi biscuit jointer myself! Works well, though the fence is bizarre! 👍

[@JBSeymour]

Lovely video. Draw bores in order to work need mortice only drilled first, assembled/tenon marked/disassembled then tenon offset drilled nearer the joint for it to pull the joint tight.

[@thedieiscast9729]

In the 1960 I worked for a door manufacturer who used loose tenons on all of his products. The top rail had one at each joint the mid and bottom rails two. A casein glue was used. periodically he would test a door to destruction . The joints were incredibly strong.

[@nmancini]

Always enjoy your videos, tips, and tricks. I’m still catching up on your podcast episodes but I’m enjoying all of your more recent videos since retiring and focusing on new KZbin content. The shop is coming along nicely

[@ronh9384]

Congratulations on your retirement! 🎈

[@mick882]

Can't wait for next week Peter. Thanks

[@idlersdream826]

Very interesting Peter and you're really building the hype for the LT Jig now, you little tease 😂 😂 🤣

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I try! 😂👍

[@georgiemae11]

Excellent explanation, i was totally engrossed by this one. All the pros and cons of loose tenon joinery. Gr8 video

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! 👍

[@normancoutts]

You are such an old tease Peter. You have us all salivating over that loose tenon jig already. Trouble is, you will never keep up with demand! Wishing you and them every success. :-)

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Norman! 👍

[@carllamb6711]

Hi Peter Very interesting video this week mate. Can’t wait for next week now Thanks mate 👍👍👍👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Carl! 👍👍

[@markbryan9989]

Loose tenons are certainly a great way to do joinery. For those of us that can't afford a Festool, Rockler's beadlock system works very well. I have used it successfully with tables and cabinets. Yes, it is slower than a Festool machine but it is also only about $50 to get the system. Good video! Thanks Peter.

[@dougsaunders8109]

You have already got me to buy a Festool domino through watching your channel…… I am still interested in watching next week’s episode though

[@josephthurmond4005]

Continuing to watch from Boerne, Texas. Always learning from the videos.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Joseph! 👍

[@BensWorkshop]

I was quite interested in your early comments aout the history of tennons and loose tennons. I wonder if I played a small part in that. One thing that I thing people miss is that there are often inspitational ideas in the past.

[@licurgius]

Damn you Peter, making me wait another week to see your jig in action. This must be the must cruel-some cliffhanger I have ever seen ;-)

[@NWGR]

Looking forward to your tenon jig video Peter! I built one very similar but would love to see your take on it.

[@nicowilson]

Supremely clear explanations. Thank you.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Nico! 👍

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Nicely done as always Peter, with some history thrown in for good measure.... my Sunday is complete 😁👍.

[@emm_arr]

I can't believe I didn't subscribe yonks ago. That's now fixed. Thanks, Peter. You've done so many good videos and certainly got me thinking for the last few years.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 🙌👍

[@mikeenglish7063]

I quite like sliding dove tails . Dado joints, and stopped versions. Or in a rush pocket holes, . Home made loose tenons .

[@mikes6844]

With hindsight years ago I should have taken a sharp intake of breath and just bought the domino. I didn’t. Looking forward to the jig. Thanks for posting 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@priestland1]

I suspect that trick of using two different size slots will have been unknown to some users of the Festool D. Don’t have the tool myself but it seems such a neat and strong joint.

[@ThekiBoran]

You are absolutely correct. I've got a cabinet build coming up and I'm going to try to remember to do it that way. There's a good chance I'll forget and cut them all wide. LOL!

[@markrowland5393]

Excellent!

[@blackbird-25]

Can't wait to see the jig! I bought the larger domino machine and was horrified at the price, it's even more now. But having said that it's worth every penny. I've since bought the Seneca adapter that allows me to use the cutters for the smaller machine I have grave doubts about festools business model but their tools are first class. Especially when you think the Domino machine replaces a morticer and a tenoner and lives in its box when not in use

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Full jig demo in the current video.👍

[@patrickbyrnes118]

The Rockler Beadlock system is also good.

[@aaronharris5275]

Good point about the glue surface area of the simple dowel. But I suppose you could add a lot more dowels to increase the strength. I do like the festool but still out of reach for the home maker like me. I think Get Hands Dirty made some kind of router jig. I wander if a morticer machine could work and ripping up strips of ply for loose tenons? Good history lesson there too!

[@garnerboyd4206]

A lot of times these guys that compare the strength of the Domino joint over the dowel joint are comparing one Domino to one dowel, true the Domino going to be the strongest. Apples to oranges comparison size wises. To be fair, two dowel joint 3/8 is more comparable to a one Domino joint 3/8 joint. I've seen many and have done these test my self. Both tested around 800 to 1,000lbs breaking point and then the wood broke before joint. Besides that if your not sure, just add another dowel are so while your drilling, no big dill LOL. Here is the real truth, the Domino's system is faster and simpler, that's it! Oh ya, and a lot more expensive. You pay for that speed and simplicity. If your in a real business, are you just need the latest and greatest and got the money go for it. Then you can have bragging rights on speed and simplicity, but don't get carried away on how much stronger than anything else trying to justify this purchase. This can be a point of diminishing return on your tool investment.

[@danyodice1048]

Great info Peter. I'm a novice to intermediate woodworker (hobby) and didn't know about the different settings of the mortise. I'll definitely try one of your jigs when it's available...🤘🤘🤘

[@craigpeel5995]

Nice lead in to your new jig Peter 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Smooth, right? 😂 👍

[@johnridout8766]

Thank you for this informative video. At last I understand that when you talk about wide and narrow slots, you mean, what I would call, long and short slots. For me, the width of the slot is always 8mm or whatever. When you do your jig video next week, it would be great if you could include some links to retailers of suitable router bits, eg 8mm upward spiral bits.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks. I always use the bit size as the thickness, the side-to-side dimension as the width, and the depth of the plunge. And yes, there’ll be a starter pack available with a 5mm spiral upcut bit, some dominos and the option of a Trend 18mm guide bush. Links to other bits etc… as well of course.

[@cuebj]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Looking forward to it. Got a Trend T4 ready to set up as a budget Festool Domino slot cutter the moment you started talking about the jig. The T4 is not made to Trend historical big router quality. Had to take it apart to improve threads and and plunging smoothness.

[@woodyourather7835]

Great video! I bought a domino a while ago and used your videos to get up to speed so thank you. And your teeth are looking great

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! >>😬

[@bigmonkey999888]

Nice one Pete! See you next week Steve

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Steve!

[@26tp]

Looking forward to seeing your jig. I hope the jig and shipping, to Australia, is within a price point that I don't think it's better to make my own based on your design.

[@chriscooper5875]

Hi Peter Great vids as always have you a list of items u sell ? Ie the 90 degree squares and the loose tenon jig plz cheers chris

[@tworiversworkshop6111]

Another great video. Looking forward to next week and the launch of the new jig!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Dawn! 👍

[@hansdegroot8549]

Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing . I don't have much time these days to watch videos. This is the first since one week or so. I'm looking forward to the video with the jig.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Hans!

[@WinoSnip]

Dear Peter, nice and clear video again! If someone is looking for a cheaper loose tenon solution, then a Lamello router could be mentioned. Not with the pins but fast to operate. There are Lamello routers from many brands, not only from Lamello - and some are really low cost. What I recall of the loose tenon history from the recent past is that it actually was Lamello who started with hand held tools for this purpose. The fact that the (earlier) cheap chip wood (material) is quite unsuitable for dowels (the quality of the material is too poor), that initiated the development of the Lamello as well, as I understood. Another detail: the pins which your Domino router has (and mine) are only on the older Dominos. The newer ones do have some kind of plastic wedge like spring loaded thingie. Reason is that these pins were / are patented by Mafell for their Duo Doweler machine (DDF40 / DD40). Therefore the newer Domino routers have to do without (see the Festool site). We have been playing with the idea to make a comparison between the Festool Domino, Mafell Duo Doweler and the Lamello Classic X - maybe one day… Kind regards, Wino

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Wino! I did a video comparing the Domino, the Lamello Zeta and the Mafell doweller; biscuit jointers are slightly different -less so for cabinetry - but you couldn't use one for the T-joint I showed as a mortice and tenon, whereas the Domino or dowels would be fine. 👍

[@PAULOatham]

Can't wait for the next video!!! - Thanks Peter!!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Paul! 👍

[@STEELCITYDRONEPILOT]

Thanks for the mention in this Peter 👌🏻awesome stuff

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Paul! Great footage, and really appreciate you letting me sample some of it. 🙌 👍

[@aerobill8554]

Another fantastic video Peter. Still getting better all the time. Love the jig. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! Best wishes from London!

[@MrMartinburgar]

Hello Peter enjoy all you're vids, I have a double dowel machine from mcalister a b&q brand had it for many years and used with good success IF you take one of the drills out and if you drill the hole twice moving the drill from one side of the pencil line to the other that way you can get a spot of lateral movement and you can drill half holes in a row to get the festool domino's to work

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Martin! Haven’t seen a MacAllister branded doweller, but pretty sure it’s out of the same mould as the Triton; I bought three of those and returned them all. I do take your point about lateral movement to give a bit of wiggle room, but my point still stands - that dowels get their strength from close contact all around the circumference of the dowel - widening the hole laterally will make a weaker joint, because the only points I’d contact are either side of the dowel where it touches, not all around. 👍👍

[@aloysiussnailchaser272]

Very interesting, thanks. I'm surprised you didn't mention biscuits.I'm an very occasional woodworker and I've found that they work well. I don't have a biscuit jointer but use a router bit with a standard router. It's obviously not as fast as a dedicated device and needs precise measurement but it gets the job done pretty well.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I understand where you're coming from, but this video is about Loose Tenon Basics, not 'how to join your cabinets together' - I did that in P3 of the Cabinetry workshop series earlier in the year, playlist here - bit.ly/CabinetryBasics 👍

[@markhedquist9597]

Cool! Anxiously awaiting order info for your jig!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! I’m afraid the first batch of jigs has been spoken for - most went to channel members as they get first dibs, and the balance went within an hour of the video going live. There are more coming, but it won’t be in time for Christmas. 🤷‍♂️👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍

[@EcoHamletsUK]

I bought a bench morticer years ago, but have never used it. I'm currently setting up my new improved workshop, and was hoping to start using it, but it won't drill mortices in the ends of long bits of wood. Maybe I'll have to learn to make olde fashioned mortices and tenons! At least I've now got a bandsaw to help me!

[@ZenoErwt]

What model do you have ? Perhaps something can be changed to make it able to drill mortises at the end of long pieces

[@sjfarrell2.0]

I hope next weeks unveil has a link/option to purcahse, Peter. Early next year, I have a couple of home projects that would suit loose tenon joinery 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

First run has already sold out I’m afraid, but there’ll be another along very soon! 👍

[@deanobenito]

New knashers Peter? Looking good buddy😁👌

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

The tip of the dentistry iceberg! 😂

[@deanobenito]

@@10MinuteWorkshop 😁

[@MINGLE2008]

Thank you for a very interesting video.

[@nolanhills9587]

That was a fantastic loose tenon basics video. Can I suggest expanding on it? I'm following your videos and understand the jig direction.....but ideally I'd enjoy another 10 minutes of the basic loose tenon examples :)

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! There’ll be a more detailed explainer video when the jig officially launches, and the odd project video coming along as well. 👍👍

[@negotiableaffections]

Great, informative video, Peter. I've just 'invested' in the wolfcraft dowelling jig, although its definitely upped my game its rather a lot of faffing about to get it set up, so, your next video is eagerly awaited here.

[@negotiableaffections]

btw it was through your video series that I took, 'the plunge' and bought the workzone track saw. Its a godsend to a man who has to empty his 'tool-cupboard' to drag out the tablesaw. Cheers mate.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Keith! Yes, portability is a big plus with plunge saws! 🙌👍👍

[@colindoesdiy]

Hi Peter, another great video and history lesson in one, didn't get to watch this until late on today and surprise surprise the first batch is apparently sold out 😡, snooze and you loose I suppose but if you do end up having any left over, I would be very interested, otherwise I'll have to catch the next batch which hopefully will be around sooner rather than later. Have a great weekend 😁

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Colin! Yes, I’m afraid the initial run sold out within about an hour of the list going public. There’ll be more, for sure. 👍👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Hi Colin. Just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍

[@colindoesdiy]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks Peter, have now registered, hopefully in time for the next run.

[@ahorton6786]

Another great video! Id love to be able to justify buying one but they're outside my price range. Very interested in the next video if the benefits can be had in a less expensive jig/system.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! 👍

[@davidcairns3203]

Watched the vid with my wife. Just before you mentioned the price of the Domino she looked over and said “I think you could use one of those”. I quickly mentioned the price (‘cos I had been eyeing one for all of 30 secs) and she winced. So I think you have a pre-sale for the jig locked in. Just in time for Christmas, too!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks David! I’m afraid the first batch of jigs has been spoken for - most went to channel members as they get first dibs, and the balance went within an hour of the video going live. There are more coming, but it won’t be in time for Christmas. 🤷‍♂️👍

[@davidcairns3203]

@@10MinuteWorkshop how do I order one, Peter?

[@davidcairns3203]

Not worried about the wait (in fact delighted you have had such a strong response) Just want to get my name down and give you a deposit !

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks David. It turns out that I need to upgrade my etsy store to be able to accept pre-orders / have a waitlist, and for some reason that's taking time to put in hand. It'll be ready as soon as it's ready, I guess! If you follow me on instagram I'll announce there when it's open, or here on the community tab. 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Hi David. Just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍

[@joemclauchlan1974]

when changing the domino settings, from tight to loose to very loose, remember they can only be change while the machine is running, something i forget all the time

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Nonsense. That’s for numpties with no idea of how gearboxes work, who try to force it to change when static and wonder why it jams. Anyone with an ounce of mechanical sense can figure that out. 🤷‍♂️

[@alyc9473]

Hi Peter I'm really interested in your loose tenon jig, and not wishing to jump ahead of next weeks video can I ask a couple of questions. Will the jig work with 15mm ply, I'm going to be building some lightweight ply cabinets for my sons campervan. Is it possible to use a palm router rather then a full size machine with the jig. Thanks Kev keep up the excellent work.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Hi. It’s set for 18mm but you can use it with 15/12mm by using shims to centre it, and with 22/25mm though obvs the doms will be off-centre at those thicknesses. With 15mm you’ll have to reduce the plunge depth to 12/12 or so, and you’d need to cut the dominos down to 24mm, or accept the less than ideal option of a 12/18 plunge. Palm router is fine, but it needs to be in a plunge base. 👍👍

[@alyc9473]

Thanks so for your detailed reply. Let's hope I can get my hands on one of the jigs in the near future it looks like the first batch are already accounted for.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Hi. Just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍

[@54mgtf22]

Love your work 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 🙌👍

[@Hobbyist78]

Ooooo can’t wait for next weeks video. I’ll be having one defo.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! All indications are that the initial run is already sold out, I'm afraid. Trying to get another one set up, but timings are very tight! 🤷‍♂️ 👍

[@Hobbyist78]

@@10MinuteWorkshop I’m hoping I’m one of those as I’d been commenting on your insta page and filled in the form for one. Xmas pressie from the wife.

[@jsfaulds]

You didn't mention Fox wedging the stub tenon, no clamping required

[@chipperkeithmgb]

Interesting videos but you could use fox tale wedges on a stop tenon

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

OK. 🤷‍♂️

[@Mishkacat123]

Can't wait for the jig!

[@Mishkacat123]

Hi Peter, Just got my jig - thanks - however the pins are very different sizes. I realise this won't make that much of a difference but wanted to let you know.

[@iwanyoung6071]

Thanks for that really helpful video. Can’t wait for the next video I have been looking for a system to use as I have no mains power in my workshop so have to use cordless tools.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I plan to be using a cordless router for the demo. 👍

[@martinlouden9005]

Great video peter. I couldn't justify the cost of a domino machine, and would definitely not be able to get the missus's approval!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Totally understand! 😂 👍

[@mururoa7024]

I was not aware archeologists found Festool dominos dating back all the way to 2006! Absolutely amazing! 😉

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

They clean up really well, apparently. 😂👍

[@Js-ix2gx]

What kind of ad-on do you use on the festool dominoo

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

It’s a domi-plate from Seneca woodworking. I explain a bit more about its uses in the 10 years of Domino videos, P1 here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/baDblWWHo9usrZI

[@teddybeards_travels]

I want one. Tell me more. When, where, how much?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

As I say in the vid - join me next week for the introduction video. Just FYI the initial batch has already been spoken for. 👍👍

[@paulevans3827]

Hi Peter another good video does the domino have four wheels and an engine, if so I might purchase one👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Not that I know of! 😂

[@robertdavies3842]

Any tips for joining 15mm melamine boreds with out exposing screws

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Many, many options, from pocket-holes, dominos, biscuits, lamello clamex or tenso, or the peanut 2 fittings. 👍

[@robertdavies3842]

@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks

[@ZenoErwt]

It does always amaze me that festool is the only company selling the loose tenons precut. As if they have a patent on it (the sizing perhaps , but that would make no sense). Luckily they are easy enough to make yourself. Cheers Peter :)

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Franz-Robert! Taylor tools in the US sell ore-made dominos, but only in the 6mm size, I think. And I’m pretty sure someone else (woodpecker??) sell continuous lengths of domino-compatible loose tenon stock. But yes, it is odd that nobody has jumped in to fill the void, like they have with biscuits. 🤷‍♂️👍

[@ZenoErwt]

@@10MinuteWorkshop weird indeed. Woodpecker has them I see , goes well with their 800 Eur morty jig (insane ! ). And after some really thorough searching I found some long stock on aliexpress. Wonder if there is a business plan here 🤔 🤩😍

[@jasonm.7358]

Great video, Peter, as always. I’ll have to pick up the jig, when I can. Two questions (darn engineers). I’ve also read that “the round ends of the tenon add no strength”, to which I ask “then how does a dowel add any strength, it’s all rounded end?” I’m sure I’m missing something. Other question was, does it ever make sense to pin the domino by shooting a pin or brad through one or both ends of the domino once the joint is assembled? Seems like it would add some strength, though it won’t pull the joint together.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Jason. Dowels get their strength from being a tight fit - as I show in the vid, 6mm dowel in a 6mm hole and it’s very strong. But there’s no wiggle room, it’s a joint that demands precision. Because loose tennis get their strength from the faces of the tenon, the slightly wider slot doesn’t affect the strength. And yes, not uncommon to pin through a domino - means you can take it out of clamps sooner. 👍👍

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

Ummm... I hope Festool is watching cause Peter just gave you an excellent new feature perhaps significant enough to justify a new model. Also, seems intuitive there should be an attachment for a palm router that could make the mortise -yes, yes.... already exists and it's called the Domino.]

[@jscook54]

Are you going to sell those jigs? I bought your plans but would be interested in already built jig.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, though I’m afraid the initial batch has already sold out. There’ll be more coming, for sure. 👍👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍

[@JimE6243]

Nice new smile! 😁 JimE

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! >>😬

[@drewfoxworthy1057]

Great video, as always! What is the after-market plate that is attached to your domino?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

It's a "domi-plate' from seneca woodworking - if you google them they'll pop up. 👍

[@amconsole]

Simple and very informative. Is that add-on edge plate for the domino router still for sale somewhere?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, it’s a Seneca woodworking domi-plate. They’ll pop up if you Google them. 👍👍

[@chrisnash2154]

When does the patent for the domino end? I’m sure as soon as that happens there will be competition and the price will drop.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Like the was in plunge saws?? Took a fair few year before for the Dewalt and Makita, and a decade or so before the supermarket saws became a thing.👍👍

[@scotthancock6764]

Oh no you switched the size of the slots without turning the machine on. I was waiting for it to fail. 😀

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂 Next time I switch it on, probably! 😱😂😂

[@shaunkirby8506]

Tried to register interest in the jig but sold out already il prob be able to save up for a festool domino by the time I get one of these 😞

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Nah, there’ll be another form out tomorrow where you can register for the 2nd batch. 👍👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Sorry, a little later than planned, but just FYI the waitlist is open if you wanted to register an interest for the second production run. bit.ly/10MWLTJ_register 👍

[@shaunkirby8506]

@@10MinuteWorkshop thank you for remembering me I looked last night a did it thanks again

[@darren990]

them tenons bring back the college days and was done by hand lol

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I know, right! 😕 😂

[@deanwinch7979]

What about the Biscuit joiner

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I had a short section that referenced it, but cut it as it just muddied the water. This isn’t ‘my 5 favourite jointing methods’ it’s a basic explainer I’d loose tenons, and a biscuit jointer couldn’t make the T-joint where I used the M&T and Loose tenon; a Domino and a dowel could though. 👍👍

[@keithomuiri2993]

Such a tease ;)

[@RunarMagnussen]

Great explanation on the benefits of loose tenons, the jig definitely has me intrigued! I'm making due with dowels but I'd love something easier and faster.

[@PICAREIMON]

Hello Peter , how are you 🙋‍♂️😎👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Well, thanks! 👍

[@gavjav1]

naughty Peter changing the width setting without running the domino ; )

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I know, right? Mad, bad and dangerous. 🤷‍♂️😂

[@gavjav1]

@@10MinuteWorkshop 😂😂😂

[@warrensmith2902]

It's beginning to look alot like Christmas.

[@WoodworkJourney]

Great video as always Peter! One question, you mentioned the weakness of the inner part of MDF and that loose tenons are stronger, but wouldn’t the surrounding MDF around the hole be equally weak, or does the outer layer provide significantly more strength? I’ve never used loose tenons so know nothing about the strength aspect lol Maybe you know someone who makes a loose tenon jig so I could use a router 😉😂

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

For the most part, a beech loose tenon at the top edge of an 18mm thick panel would be much stringer than a stub tenon made from MDF core; it is susceptible to external forces, but you have to be wilfully negligent - or unlucky - to have those forces blow a joint. I have done it - tall cabinet side planted into the base and left 'just for a second' while I grab the other aide, and it sways, leans, and blows the joint. 🤷‍♂️ One of the main reasons behind the clamping square, tbh. But most of the time it's absolutely fine. 👍

[@WoodworkJourney]

@@10MinuteWorkshop brilliant, thank you 👍👍

[@brucewelty7684]

Picky Yank here, the assembly of both oversize slots, Why not put the Domi's in the horizontal one rather than the moveable one?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Won’t make any difference - if the dominos can move, they will, no matter which mortice they’re in. 👍

[@carloduroni5629]

Not a cabinet maker myself but... If a dowel has half the glueing surface of a loose tenon, why not placing TWICE the number of dowels. I suspect the cost will always be lower than a Festool solution. An alternative - much stronger than a loose tenon, I'm sure: carve a looong slot with a router and place a looong strip of wood in it.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

But also twice the amount of work. And the most expensive component is the nut that’s holding the tool! 👍👍

[@FuzzyScaredyCat]

"Your response has been recorded." - What sized guide bush is your jig designed to use and which sized dominos?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

👍 18mm.There’ll be a starter pack available with router bit, dominos and the option of a Trend 18mm guide bush as well.

[@brucecarlton667]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Great tease. Peter. Will the 10 minute jig be available to your fanatical US viewers

[@OldManTony]

Being a skinflint I’m looking forward to next week’s video 😂😂

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂 👍

[@raycarnis9540]

The Domino patent will be up soon, and you'll be able to buy one from Bangood for £40. Two or three years maybe.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

But will they be worth buying? Think Triton Doweller... 🤷‍♂️

[@raycarnis9540]

@@10MinuteWorkshopProbably be just about good enough to be really annoying. With a bit more engineering the Triton doweller could have been a useful machine.. Your jigs will sell like hot cakes.

[@KrisG619]

Your dowel video is unavailable

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Weird, thanks for the heads-up. Try this link; Dowel Jig Basics - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIXNkJuferuZrNk 👍

[@jigsey.]

Feztool was around in Egyptian times,.... I'll get me coat

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂😂 Brilliant! 🙌👍

[@pennyroyal3813]

I came here for the Archimedes chat and ended up with the Phoenicians.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I know, mad right?? 🤷‍♂️😂

[@Z-add]

The chinese ganwei is making a simple domino clone using a router. Available from ali express.

[@Extragonk]

Aw man, 1st batch is closed!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yep, sorry! 🤷‍♂️

[@johntaylor2489]

Teaser trailer ......

[@PSjustanormalguy]

Australian pricing for the domino DF500 joiner is AU$1775, or just over £1000. Gotta love the Australia tax put on by almost every tool manufacturer