Loot Boxes & Player Numbers in Tekken 8

[@spongeaa]

Tekken 8 is truly a casino game; 50/50 Mixup stuff and now lootboxes

[@slowmojo9355]

Yes it is!....its like you have to guess for the mix up not really about skill

[@neovssmith19]

I always hate when this is said. Every tekken since 5 has been a 50/50 mix up game. This is not new in any fighting game after 2007

[@mariotaz]

​@@neovssmith19 Bring back the Casino stage

[@slippers8000]

​@@neovssmith19There are degrees in hell.

[@DEANDRE_DTS]

Underrated comment

[@HaradaSayingAno]

*Deluxe editions *Season passes *Battle pass *Real money item shop *Uniqlo promotional *Chipotle promotion *Nike promotion *Loot boxes In a 70 euro game. Holy shit.

[@CosmicVoid420]

Get the game on a keyshop and pirate the dlc characters 4head. You don't need skins. Customs are for bitches

[@johnnymonsterrrr]

well.. companies are greedy, color me surprised

[@JerryLeeHowell2]

You play fighting games for hundreds or thousands of hours. It's totally reasonable that they cost more than just another 4 hour campaign. Im not the type of person that is offended by the idiot trap microtransactions.

[@Tekkenstuff]

@@JerryLeeHowell2valid

[@jackhearts9827]

​@JerryLeeHowell2 that makes no sense. You can play any game for hundreds of hours

[@lwazinkasawe3887]

Blue Protocol failing is now Tekken and its community's fault. At least, that's the vibe I'm getting

[@smhity]

You misunderstand! This is just Tekken 8's design philosophy: Gambling! I am looking forward to seeing more exciting gambling/gacha mechanics. Hopefully we'll get a chance to win more low res outfits ripped straight from Tekken 6! Gambling HYPE!

[@sewerPig]

finally a fighting game for us slotheads

[@kalash7083]

billions must win big!!

[@alexandermccalla5098]

I’ll say that the Lars T6 outfit looks detailed. Still, they started turning the fights into gambling starting with soul Calibur 6. Once they picked up the team soul members, that philosophy carried over. It’s all knowledge check, frame trap, 50/50 spam. And it’s not that you’re knowledge checking highs and lows. It’s that you’re in forced 50/50s and most people are getting by just pressing buttons because their characters allows it. And since this game trained newer players to just press buttons, Lars players will never get into stance again lol

[@thesteamguy6171]

hope we get some nestle ads or maybe some marvel movie ads you know, what tekken truly is about.

[@federz666]

Before long to be as bad as KZbin

[@YourTamedLion]

Harada and Murray deserve zero trust after what they pulled with Tekken 8. At best it just shows their words and promises are worthless since they have no power. At worst they are also scumbags who are fine with scamming people.

[@thefrxst_]

After the lie of heihachi anything goes

[@gillylambino1746]

Man we still have no use for fight money lol

[@Yeshua_is-Cool]

Yep i knew it was going to happen when the customization was watered down then they released shit we had for actually cash

[@azizkash286]

holy shit. They are using every microtransaction method in the book. Utterly shameless

[@rekoilS]

wait until they introduce a stamina/energy system that allows you to play 10 games in an hour if you dont refill your bar lmao

[@Deep_wolf]

@@rekoilS Tekken Revoliton 2...

[@SnowflakeSSQ]

We will soon have those tickets from Tekken Revolution and if you lose you run out and can't play. People will defend that btw.

[@azizkash286]

@@rekoilS THE MAIN ISSUE IS THAT THIS IS NOT A FREE TO PLAY GAME, THIS IS A 70$ DOLLAR IN A NICHE GENRE

[@rekoilS]

@@azizkash286 yea thats also a point i tend to forget all the time. i would be fine with those monetization practices if it was a f2p game. but the fact that it isnt reminds me of why i stopped playing t8 half a year ago lmao. i will probably check it out once heihachi drops since he was my sub in t7 and my old main (lee) isnt as fun to me anymore as he once was

[@Redblacky]

Please dont stop covering stuff like this and dont stop calling them out and being brutally honest. So nice to see someone in the Tekken, nay, Gaming Community overall be so based and have so much integrity. I wish more people would use their head and stop bending over to scummy busniess practices and companies.Will definetly keep supporting you! One of the most sane and based individuals in the Tekken/Gaming community!

[@NahNah-et1ej]

More people watched this video than played Tekken at any day of this month. Lol.

[@solairethesun7135]

Not really

[@radekbejbl1]

Don't ask me for shit. What piece of work,sensei Harada is

[@KaledTV]

Based as usual. I find myself buying old games these days instead of the latest big releases, I just don't want to deal with the cognitive dissonance I get from engaging with the new release. Pre-order bounces with cut content from the base game, day 1 DLCs, 3 different versions of the game on release, fuck all that, fuck playing Warhammer or the latest big release I'm gonna go play classics that I missed, I already finished Half-Life a few months ago and I just bought Deus Ex.

[@theaudiocrat]

"Let's turn our game from a transcendental journey that combines learning, patience, strategy and persistence that (at times) culminates in sublime moments of blissful triumph into something that appeals to the basest of human emotions with only the most superficial gambling dopamine hits before it wearily veers into a spiritual cul de sac of existential dread and nihilism." -Bandai Namco, apparently

[@Lambkin-_-]

A video by a small channel called ‘GamerFox24601’ popped up on my recommended tab. A video called ‘Bandai namco - a terrible company no one is talking about’ or something like that. I immediately thought of you and just clicked on it ending up watching the whole thing. Holy sh*t does their incompetence go much much deeper than I’d ever realised. We should be nervous for Tekken as a franchise right now.

[@FrameWhisperer]

I'll check it out, thanks!

[@russell5292]

Digimon fans be like "First time? 🥴"

[@juicer_777]

Lambkin is here!

[@Xenozillex]

I don't care for Tekken, but I see this as a dealbreaker for Soulcal.

[@ICEMAN-Z8]

Sir i wanna thank u for being honest and brave talking about this game and its devs. They r actually everything u said about them, these scumbags destroyed a franchise that has been great for so many years and i really hate how every other big tekken KZbinr bending their asses to bamco, its a shame that even a guy like the mainman is bought and can’t say anything negative about this game.

[@SnowflakeSSQ]

I'm just waiting for the day they introduce tickets to play ranked. Run out of them when you lose and wait a whole day to get two back or buy more. Its gonna be Tekken Revolution all over again but this time teamed up with Fast food ads, in game currency, in game store, low quality and overpriced battle pass and sneakers from the real life Mishima Zaibatsu. Amazing.

[@archduke0000]

I completely understand your feelings and frustrations with the game. That being said, I just wanted to say that I started playing Zafina and I've found your videos immensely helpful.

[@Huskasin]

I saw someone say Tekken 8 is the EA Sports game of the franchise and I haven't been able to unsee it since reading that

[@IKI-KIKI]

XD

[@evogdala4392]

I was downvoted to hell for saying that Scamco will use lootboxes in T9. I hope they'll do it in T8 to see shills excuses.

[@HakunonMatata]

The downvote shit in reddit is so obnoxious. You could say something factually correct and you'll still be downvoted for it.

[@yungtubercolosis1073]

I quit before the fast food ads, that sounds hilarious and sad at the same time

[@DelicateSteveFox]

This was my first Tekken, played it until July. This will also be my last Tekken. Old enough to see where this is going. The amount of people I played with battle pass or shop cosmetics on was mind baffling. Bandai will fully focus on milking every last penny this playerbase has to offer instead of focusing on core gameplay mechanics/balancing. The way I see it, Harrada is cashing out with T8

[@CD-ek3iq]

They are cosmetics. They have zero effect on gameplay and most of em are crappy. If you are upset because you can’t play dress up instead of Snake Edging your opponents into the ground you have misguided expectations.

[@Jabermania]

Try TEKKEN 7 bro

[@shimawave1214]

If this is your first Tekken, you’re already f*****

[@karelkantelaar1357]

@@CD-ek3iqhis point went over your head tbh

[@CephlonMayngrum]

​@@karelkantelaar1357 He has no point.

[@junkyryan138]

Japanese EA through and through

[@wingkeanleau1771]

He's alive, phew

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

the old one has awoken

[@mikeshinwa3398]

This is the "based" Harada that everyone respected. At the end of the day, he is just another cog in the machine at Namco. No matter how much he may "roast" the "haters" of twitters or say stuff like "don't ask me for shit", it isn't going to change that.

[@RichiePajooh-r8i]

the online in t8 is the worst experience i’ve had out of any game in my life time. cheaters everywhere, the people that truly want to play and learn get pushed out by salty and toxic individuals, no wifi filter, no ping filter, no way to get longer sets easily, the lobby is just there to peddle shop crap, hell i’ve been so disenfranchised by video games that i haven’t played a game in years, t8 was the first game i’ve purchased in about four or five years. the last ones being t7, destiny 2 and sf5. I stayed out of this console generation because all the games are monetized trash. I got a gaming laptop so i could use it for personal, work and play the game i love… tekken when i have time. Two weeks after purchasing tekken 8 the shop came out, the drama over banning customs came out, the massive wave of cheaters and realization that their online code and network is somehow worse than tekken 7. if i could get a refund on t8 i would. i do not support games that do these things and people will say oh look at the prices of sf6 or mk1. guys picking a lesser evil isn’t a good justification. i refuse to support games at all if this is what it is about. so if that means i never play video games again so be it. it’s a shame the only positive that came from this is just finding streamers, youtubers and other people that i want to support despite of how tekken 8 is. i hope you stick around frame despite of tekken 8.

[@jimmyreyz4363]

Frame gotta tell you that you are the most respectable channel I fuck with! Thank you for being yourself always, and not taking bullshit. You stepping away from tekken because you disagree with its shitty mechanics and predatory practices is huge. Not many would have the balls to do that. I will still follow your channel even tho I mainly followed it to hear your thoughts about the game I used to love. I too have stepped away from tekken for the same reasons you have. Only I hate the mechanics More so in that game and refuse to play the way they are making everyone else play. Fuck tekken 8 for now. Hopefully they get it right with time if not welp time to go touch grass 🙃 🙂 take care brother!

[@FrameWhisperer]

Very kind words, thank you!

[@DragonflySwamp]

Did you see PhiDX's video about his experience in the SF6 Sajam Slam? He was so surprised by how it felt to play Cammy and how much better SF6's online experience was than T8's that he's considering branching out to SF6.

[@Luffy5D]

Can we all just go back to tekken 7? 😂

[@TheNomadJack]

I’ve kinda quit TEKKEN without even consciously thinking about it… When taking everything into account it just doesn’t have the same spark that T7 had at all, and the devs/publisher absolutely suck.

[@solairethesun7135]

I think bringing Heihachi back that early in T8 lifespan is a sign that the game is underperforming for Bamco projections. You don't burn your hype joker 6 months after the game release when the goal is to keep the game successful for 8 years. Your analogy of T8 gonna be a fireworks is accurate. They used T7 hard acquired success to do a final robbery with T8 even if it's at the cost of damaging forever the franchise. T7 11M selling copies + dlcs proved that the game had a already successful philosophy. Directors at Bamco are just completely greedy piece of cake with no love for the franchise

[@joenitrate]

If they had told us there was going to be "premium currency" and a paid battle pass before release, i wouldnt have bought the game. Super scummy.

[@bartoszkrynski6572]

come back Frame! Tekken needs you

[@holdooo]

I concur!

[@peterchase2224]

Once you're over the novelty stuff like heat dash being able to turn moves like a demon paw into a +5 on block launcher just sucks so much fun out of the game. Another thing is the health system. Taking insane amounts of chip damage feels like you're being punished for something you typically can't even avoid, but what's worse is having a match flow not work in your favor. You launch someone and combo them, then they launch and combo you. You both did the same thing but the player who got launched first now has 70% of their health with rage and you have 40% of your health with no rage. The heat system looks really cool in trailer and it's really fun when you first learn the game but past that it's actually super damaging to the flow and depth of the game.

[@forsak3n749]

I am seriously considering taking a step back from Tekken as well. Thank you for that recommendation. Frame, you are a very interesting person to watch. Very entertaining. It would be fun to watch you make videos like “how I would balance Tekken 8” where you talk about how to best balance the game. Or “characters that need buffs”. Just making videos about stuff you don’t agree with.

[@FrameWhisperer]

@@forsak3n749 very kind words! I have noticed an overall upswing in my mental well-being after leaving Tekken.

[@polishsausage648]

Heihachi coming back just makes me treating this game and its story less and less seriously lol

[@bandawin18]

I mean, it's Tekken. Heihachi has come back from the dead 3 times now. The story was never serious

[@rinneganxrebirth]

​@@bandawin18the point is the ridiculous story has now become pretty stupid

[@bandawin18]

@@rinneganxrebirth that is true, like at least before there was some kind of effort put into it but now it's diet dragon ball

[@Hand-Doe]

Storymode is laughable.

[@bandawin18]

@@Hand-Doe well it's certainly entertaining and it's far from terrible. But yeah expecting Citizen Kane quality from a video game story, let alone a fighting game, is silly

[@YT-FableKnight]

Yeah I gotta say the monetization of items is getting pretty out of hand. That's why I believe they revealed Heihachi this early in the game. Unfortunately this is the most current Tekken game and I do play it still, but I completely understand why players and other people are any to stay away from it. But going back to the Heihachi thing, I think they are in desperate need of profit to make this game survive. Which if your selling point is suppose to be "nostalgia" with particular characters and costumes that's a huge red flag...

[@ZiegenMeisterV1]

I don't want to spend the little free time that I currently have on video games but if I do, it will be Tekken 7.

[@XNDL44]

Good to know the Namco ninjas did not get you

[@TK_TheFURY]

Tekken franchise might die with this game

[@user-mz2sy2tz9l]

It earned enough profit to warrant a sequel, so T9 is coming for sure. However I think T9 is going to be even worse and there wont be a tag3 game as tag games are too complex and hard to dumb down to the casuals. So they will continue with T10, but that game will be the end of this franchise.

[@sneakerreview4397]

It will lol they ruined their game, dumbing down the game to “appeal” to casuals that don’t even play this game, and adding all of these micro transactions, I also heard that this game is gonna have less characters than tekken 7, they basically said fuck the legacy players and that’s why pro’s are quitting

[@Hand-Doe]

Its already dead to me as a 20+ year fan😥

[@atuls55]

@@sneakerreview4397 I also don't like the dumbing down but T8 has more characters than T7 when it first released.

[@sneakerreview4397]

@@atuls55 7 had 36 lol 8 has 32

[@Evil-Olive]

We need you to continue to voice your unbiased opinions on the direction of this series. The aggressive monetization is getting wild

[@feezywiz]

🙏🏾 coping that they're just asset images for treasure mode

[@Jabermania]

Yeah whatever

[@Valvadrix]

That's the best case scenario, but the person who datamined these assets said they were in the same folder as all the other visuals for the Tekken Store.

[@boltdm8238]

jesus crist, I thought it couldn't be worse after the nike collab, but namco are just unstoppable

[@ArtySh00t]

This makes me feel like the "upgrade" -> "F*CK TURN BACK" meme, but T7->T8 xd

[@zicxhan]

Make more videos on Tekken in your rebellion phase. It's more enjoyable than before.

[@Xbox.4388]

Welcome back! I understand the game is frustrating but it’s still fun when you’re not playing rank I don’t even play rank anymore I’m excited for the last dlc character.

[@apsuli5818]

went back to t7

[@FrameWhisperer]

Maybe I'll see you there mate

[@Jabermania]

Been there since TEKKEN 8 release XD

[@er7776]

same if anyone EU add me pc or ps

[@RationalMinded]

Do you get matches easily?

[@Jabermania]

@@RationalMinded I get more matches than TEKKEN 8 bro XD

[@wpierdoltv3119]

regardless of Tekken good to see you Frame and hope the move goes well, I went through one recently too :)

[@NibbledPickle]

Amazing video! Frame with a certified banger. Thank u for exposing this souless game. Tekken is unrecognizable

[@Jabermania]

TEKKEN 8

[@GarroshYT]

Long gave up on tekken 8, having to use every single shady tactic is just not it

[@Yaxx5]

This isn’t really surprising since things like Tekken revolution actually exist

[@diviumfuror]

Blue protocol closed so they have to pump out of Tekken Andies

[@SicParvisMagna6]

Great to see you again my friend. Actually wanted to let you know that I took the advice in your last video to heart and quit tekken 8. I somehow deluded myself into thinking I could still enjoy this state of tekken if I just ignored the balance entirely and would not get mad or frustrated about it. Needless to say this was never going to work. So thank you for showing me the way sensei 🙏🏼

[@ruikiri]

next update youre going to have to watch an ad before you can rematch your opponent xb

[@wiserip6080]

Personally I reckon they experimented with putting lootboxes in the game and just abandoned the idea due to lack of items to actually put in it. To make lootboxes work you need hundreds of worthless items to fill the boxes and a few rare items people actually want. No one will buy hundreds of lootboxes to get the basic asset 'ball'.

[@JUYAN16]

THIS! Dude, I feel the same way. So much so I've gone BACK to playing T7. Tekken 8 is just not fun to play to me. And the main reason for that is the Heat system. Every match in a nutshell: Ok...Let's get all the HEAT bullshit outta the way when the round starts. And if we're both alive before the round is over, then we can play some Tekken. That's all it is. It's not about out playing your opponent anymore. It's about doing Super Saiyan bullshit every match.

[@madnesssupreme]

For the sake of Frame's reactions *please* let it be loot boxes.

[@AshleyVsTheWorld]

The fact we have all this monetisation and they still make you pay for new DLC characters aswell is just insane to me

[@alexandermccalla5098]

I kinda miss the boxes from Tekken 6. Playing a grueling ranked match only to be rewarded with a new rage effect. That was dope

[@manishchauhan6706]

Teeken project team took 7 years to make a stable and balanced game and suddenly they have changed game machinecs and moves, so its out of my mind that we are paying for full game or just under developed games with lots of bugs

[@holdooo]

Then go play Tekken 7. I wish Frame would, so he would put down the pink glasses.

[@lazytommy0]

I don't think people "forget", its more like adapt. Awareness of history is more important with each new day and most people realize this. I believe it to be more a question of how much they are willing to put up with before they act. unfortunately the inevitable act or response by the masses in history has a bad habit of being severely underestimated.

[@smashrag9592]

Very maturity presented nice.

[@doomskunk]

I quit around may and my plan was to comeback for lidia. I played for a little bit but the matchmaking sucks and I still hate that there is no infinite rematch not even in casual matches like cmon.

[@THR33_Dizzle]

Player matches you can rematch forever if you want

[@loopseeker]

i havent played t8 since the tekken shop was added and ive been thinking a whole lot about t7 lately

[@Silentkidgaming]

💀 what is happening to fighting games 💀

[@Diu1999]

It became a esport filled with shills and tribalism gone are love for the games now it’s just to see who earns the most money.

[@spongeaa]

Me from the future here, the so-called “Loot Boxes” aren’t actual gamble crates, they’re a bundle of shop items like the box is a image of a pack that contains a bundle of 2 character outfits for a 50% discounted price of 400 Tekken Coins. This is a FOMO practice because it was released half-price and it’s a fake discount which gives the buyer a sense of urgency. Here’s the catch, they put the outfits on the box but you can’t buy the outfits separately anymore; they are basically saying “Do you want Jin’s Tekken 4 outfit? Well, you have to buy it through a pack that includes said outfit but with an extra costume that includes Kazuya’s Tekken 6 outfit.” So, if you don’t want the Kazuya outfit or vise versa, you are basically screwed.

[@Diu1999]

So Tekken 8 is becoming more like overwatch and is just Bandai cash cow damn that sucks.

[@spongeaa]

@@Diu1999 yes, Tekken has turned into a huge cash cow

[@Diu1999]

@@spongeaaI blame Harada and the community enabling them the shills were defending the shop since launch but now everyone on Twitter is roasting these bundles and comparing it to Fortnite the shills and boot lickers get what they deserve a mobile game that consumed a mediocre fighting game that doesn’t even work online anymore.

[@spongeaa]

@@Diu1999 i won’t be surprised if they put actual loot boxes in the game, Tekken 8 is about to become Tekken Revolution 2

[@DragonflySwamp]

I replied to another comment with this but I'm going to post it here because I think a lot of people miss the subtler point: if a company wants to achieve X, they set out to implement something far past X, and then when people complain they "walk it back" to X. Dumb players feel like they've achieved something and their celebrating drowns out the smaller number of smart players who realize what's happening. The notion of "if I'm playing for 200 hours, Bamco should extract money from me for 200 hours" is the ultimate goal of the company because if you argue on that line then you have stopped protesting the notion that you're a cow to be milked and are instead quibbling about the comfort of the nozzle. To put it more succinctly: Why is it okay for multibillion-dollar megacorps to trick people into becoming gambling addicts? Why can't the game just be made with respect for the people who play it? It's easier than ever for games to be made, and the only reason why they have such huge budgets is due to bloated advertising budgets and the preconception that everything can appeal to everyone and make infinite money.

[@okcool9898]

I think now is the perfect time for game studios to give us a better 3d-fighter-alternative to tekken. We want "real" tekken back without those weird mechanics and game design choices. So why not give us that.

[@guidobaccetti]

i love you bro, you are my favourite videoer

[@UncleHyena]

Frame, congratulations and best of luck with the move! Hope you and the missus have smooth sailing I’ll make sure to keep recommending Inscryption till the day I die 😤 I resonate strongly with your reasoning with struggling to get good and not adapting. I genuinely think I would I’ve dropped the game if I didn’t have newcomer dear friends to help that value my legacy knowledge and are encouraging my demented t7 brain to keep chugging at it even if I can’t play aggreshibu tekken. My cynic brain says we’re gonna get loot boxes for outfits and we’re gonna get those cringe pack opening videos fifa KZbinrs would make xD

[@FrameWhisperer]

I was thinking about that game today! I will probably get around to it tbh.

[@UncleHyena]

@@FrameWhisperer AHHHH!- I mean, exquisite news o7

[@rekoilS]

0 views in 55 seconds. framewhisperer fell off smh. overused jokes aside: watch people defend and glorify those monetization practices and call others, who dare to voice their opinion, poor.

[@Rhyds86]

I've had idiots tell me I'm a complaining baby, even after I objectively address the game is regressing in so many ways. You can't help some people.

[@rekoilS]

@@Rhyds86 cant blame them tbh. many people did simply just get used to those monetization schemes or dont know the alternatives if they are younger gamers. others are just conditioned to defend their favourite franchise despite obvious flaws and malpractices. people want to cling to the stuff they grew up with and refuse to accept that their franchise changed over the years. i dont want to say that those people arent allowed to like this stuff or spend their money however they want but those people need to realize that their behaviour is contributing to the downfall of the integrity and unique aspects of the game series that make them fall in love with the game in the first place

[@takanuvabosconovitch6072]

I like and trust you, always glad to hear a criticism to something i love. Tekken 8 could have been better... Maybe Tekken 7 was successful because you could alt tab on PC... Gosh it so hard to me to loas into t8 now. I HAVE to close every other window

[@jjbeloni7818]

Tekken 8 needs to keep Bamco afloat after Blue Protocol.

[@mitsuhaha5574]

That is definitely unsafe on block...

[@DaggerPrince]

Tekken 7 basically kept like 50% of its playerbase for most of its existence, which is a great feat. Tekken 8 lost like 90% of its players. Bet you if the predatory non-sense didnt happen, alot more of the casuals wouldve stayed. Just like how there is alot more Street Fighter 6 players still playing compared to T8.

[@Floridamangaming729]

Yea i stopped playing because it got boring and annoying. Ill play with friends and casually but nothing crazy.

[@Gauze-sb2fo]

Tekken 8 has way too many problems. It shouldn’t even be a fully priced game like it is at this point in time

[@sungjin008]

First recycled outfit, then battle pass, and now loot box?! God, I hate Namco more than Konami. Also, It's hard to believe that Cruis'n, Hot Wheels racing game, LEGO racing game, F-Zero, Top Gear (Top Racer in Japan), Crazy Taxi, Flatout, and even Atari's Sprint, Burnin' Rubber, Shutokou Battle is back but Ridge Racer isn't. I would call Ms. Pac-Man a Midway character, not a Namco character. because Namco abandoned her.

[@oussamaml4161]

thank god you're not dead

[@NapBlack]

I say this as a story fan (or a part-time one), but Heihachi coming back is really depressing to me, but of course, fans will dismiss it. The fact that he got renewed in under a year should tell you the team has no confidence in the stuff they put out. They shouldn't have to add a story mode either cause that budget could've gone into fixing the game or making it more stable on day 1

[@NapBlack]

Regarding these potential loot boxes, that's also not surprising anymore. I pray that they do commit if that's real just to see the Strawman defences try to adapt to the controversy, knowing that they can't defend BN/the TK team's actions by that point Haven't played for months due to the general declining PC port.

[@FrameWhisperer]

The whole point of the story of 7 was Hei dying and he was back less than 6 months into 8. It's just lazy.

[@NapBlack]

@FrameWhisperer Absolutely. Really telling that they don't trust Reina to be the next significant villain of the series because their writing is cookie-cutter & formulaic. She would've: Done evil corporate global stuff like Hei/Kaz Piss off Kaz & potentially Jin Kaz + Jin work together vs. her They beat her She can't die cause she has to return for more fights (& would've been a jobber) I tweeted at Harada to pay my respects for caring about the story enough to move on from Hei & do creative stuff to still reference him in 8.....& then EVO happened. I also shared my story review to express my likes, dislikes & thorough criticisms a week after release. Guess the team took offence & said "F the story quality" Saddening af.

[@Diu1999]

@@NapBlackdude I’ve seen the defense already and it’s the same defense people used for the battle pass at this point I just think the people who play T8 just because it has the name Tekken and not actual fans of the franchise or are in denial to the fact this game is awful I think it’s even worse then SFV on launch cause it at least had working online.

[@NapBlack]

@Diu1999 well....that's depressing☹️. It's so hard to show my support when stuff like this is so active....and moronic on the defenders.

[@wc999]

stay safe frame watch out for the namco cops trying to take you out for posting the truth and... eagerly awaiting more wukong footage

[@anata.one.1967]

Oh, the 4th DLC is definitely Anna, they are gonna make a ZZZ like trailer, to "appease" Anna mains, and slap all of tekken community with this in the coming Christmas.

[@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw]

im playin a pirated version and im havin fun! bamco gets zilch from me, thanks form the coverage frame! keep up the coverage!

[@CosmicVoid420]

i used to have it too. but you cant play online. i bought the game from a keyshop for like £23 and pirated the dlc characters with creamapi.

[@karolyzenkovics5114]

Update this is not loot boxes these are just skin bundles like example: Tekken 6 Kazuya and Tekken5 Jin skin in one bundle for 400coin

[@RogerBacon_sh]

Played Tekken since the first one, dropped Tekken with 8. Not playing their "Micro"transaction bullsh*t

[@KyeCreates]

Frame ur goated

[@ggmasterguiltygear6315]

You're going to love WH 40,000 space marine II. its phenomenal

[@FrameWhisperer]

Hell yeah, wish I could be a Salamander tho

[@tibz7634]

It looks really, REALLY repetetive.

[@zettor47]

​@FrameWhisperer You might be able to use similar colours in the co-op/pvp.

[@Mr440c]

​@@FrameWhisperer You can in non-campaign modes if the pattern a thing that matters for you. If you're talking about their attitude well Titus is an unusual kind of Ultramarine.

[@SunspotGallery]

Every other tekken game had me studying any chance i got. It's very weird for a new chapter to be released, where I'm just not that fussed.

[@disruptor6550]

I think you are absolutely right about the longevity thing. Yes, T8 had a really good peak, and also has a lot of players still playing the game. BUT, the terrible balancing and their shitty monetization practices will make the game bleed much quicker than it happened with T7. If they continue like this, there's no way this game will last almost a decade like T7 did. I don't think the game will die anytime soon, but they're almost on their way to bury their own graves I feel. Whether BAMCO are aware of it or not, is up for debate I think. Time will tell.

[@MyHazey]

I hope the rumors of Virtua Fighter 6 are true.

[@Gauze-sb2fo]

One thing I don’t get is how people can shill for Tekken 8. It’s objectively bad

[@peterchase2224]

Also I have to point out the reason Bamco can be so pathetic is because the modern customer is so shameless and pathetic. So many of my Tekken friends are buying every battle pass and all the slop served in the Tekken shop. They're my friends but I don't understand them. I think the true cause behind her fertility and cost living crisis is the younger generation simply has zero concept of responsible spending or any concept of long term planning in general.

[@via_negativa6183]

Namco really crapped the initial good will they generated with this game down the shitter, I don't put anything pass them now and we haven't had any sales updates so I imagine it really hit them in the wallet but they won't be self aware enough to course correct.

[@THR33_Dizzle]

FRAAAME! I don't even pay attention to the monetization bs, i don't even open the shop, i don't play ranked, player matches only, I'm over 3k player matches at this point, I'm stickin to player matches with friends and I'm content, hope to see you back with the miguel drop, lol, one love brotha!

[@THR33_Dizzle]

Oh, p.s. you know I'm in the states but I haven't seen a single ad, again I only do player matches so maybe that's why, but if ppl would just NOT BUY shit, maybe namco would get the hint, but ppl keep gobblin up the slop, namco gonna keep servin it up, smh

[@THR33_Dizzle]

Oh and p.p.s. lol, hope all goes well with the move! I just been makin a lotta commissioned music, so money for more gear! Lol, one love my dude, good journey to you n the mrs. 😎

[@Gauze-sb2fo]

The smart thing to do would be to make battle pass items available to offline players via ghost battles since online is so toxic anyway

[@julianrx7]

Imo its likely its lootboxes. Why would the items u get in the battle pass have raritys like common, rare, etc. And it just makes sense for a company to recycle the items to make some money. I mean they are in the game and the players cant get them? Give them a chance to buy them but then again the most scummiest way u can think of

[@Dizintegrator]

I dont get it: if there is three times the amount of concurent players in T8 than in T7 then how come I keep matching against the same five people all over again in T8, while in T7 I almost always got different players (with 1/3 of the average playing players)??? I'm in high purple ranks, where THEIR data shows MOST players are too! Something's up... (and it aint my D)

[@yareyarebankai6841]

4 characters a year with a massive legacy roster like Tekken is pathetic, at least SF6 is pumping them out fast. Terry comes out this week or next and I feel like we just had Bison. Consistency is key and they’re falling behind. Game of the year? Best fighting game of the year? Don’t be gaslit by reviews, take a look at the state of the game currently and see if it’ll maintain itself. I understand it’s their first time using UE5 for these characters…but Bamco has so much money, effort at rapid pace is the issue not being addressed for this game. Hype then deflation. Sure it’ll be better 4 years from now, but people aren’t waiting for then but now

[@uhobme2028]

This games monetization is Bandai in a nutshell

[@Deep_wolf]

Same happening with other namco games. Taiko is going downhill with moblie money begging and $50 switch port of previous game with DLC, music pass and more... Sad to see.