Lopez vs Ortiz - Robbery or Runner? Post Fight Analysis

Here are my thoughts from last night's fight between Teofimo Lopez and Jermaine Ortiz. Personally feel Lopez was very lucky to get the decision and it doesn't bode well for him for future opponents.
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[@BoxingLife]

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[@jdflan1977]

If you are doing analysyts during the videos,no thanks,your boxing iq is very low.

[@jdoubleo2]

I think you’re the first person calling it as it is. I would like to add and maybe you can add to your content. Teo did cut off the ring in the early rounds but it was without the jab because Ortiz wasn’t throwing as much jabs. But the issue was that Ortiz was clinching. Now I know clinching is part of boxing but it’s not part of the rules. There is no holding so this is where teo dad should have been on the ref Mr Harvey about clinching. I think that this modern day fighting there not calling clinching or holding. I can prove that because we no longer have great inside fighters. Mills lane use to take the fighters hand and move it to force them to fight inside. I digress later in the rounds Teo was frustrated and Ortiz slowed but started skip stepping around should be no skipping and running because in the Olympics European refs call it. But Ortiz did him a disfavor by all the clinching which can zap your power. Now not sure if you’re a licensed coach but in the US. They have meeting and dinners and they talk about scoring and aggressors always get the round supposed to if the rounds are close reason why is because aggressors make the fight. Hence linares saying Lomenchenko won the fight because he was making the fight. Now you can effectively aggression but there was really no effective countering maybe 1 or 2 punches. Haney vs rougerou yeah rougerou was the aggressor but rounds were not close and hainey clearly dominated but it’s not good to allow backfoot fighters to win close rounds it does a disservice to boxing.

[@matthew-jy5jp]

Ortiz did everything right. Lopez is overrated and not only that but is a terrible person as well. I would watch his fights if they were free

[@matthew-jy5jp]

Timothy Bradley also said that Lopez had the wrong strategy against the South paw and lost

[@god4346]

One of the biggest mistake I see people make when scoring fights is that they actually think aggression is a scoring criteria, EFFECTIVE aggression is a scoring criteria not just aggression many don't understand that

[@jdaviecal]

Without aggression there is no fight

[@god4346]

@@jdaviecal *without punches there's no fight

[@jdaviecal]

@@god4346 oh, you got me there

[@Sk8x4x3v3r]

Let’s be honest Ortiz was evading the fight. That wasn’t defense. Now imagine if teo and Ortiz were evading the fight. There would be no fight

[@RaulRamirez-jv4rn]

@@god4346exactly with NO PUNCHING there is no fight and Ortiz wasn’t landing shit. Seems like a lot of you think that by simply frustrating your opponents and landing nothing but pitty pat grazing jabs wins you rounds, it doesn’t

[@gils3066]

Ive also been of the opinion that teo cant cut off the ring and doesnt use the jab enough i personally think tank will have the same issue whenever he fights a pure boxer who wont run into his punches

[@cgg14767]

these are facts. I actually have the same sentiments now that I think about it.

[@jdflan1977]

You mean a pure coward.Running and rabbit punching is not a pure boxer.Floyd Mayweather,pure boxer.Sugar Ray Leonard pure boxer,Muhammad Allie pure boxer,Jemaine Ortiz pure Trash!!!!

[@IncredibleMet]

Thats why he won’t go into a fight a pure boxer

[@jdflan1977]

@@IncredibleMet Teo will fight anybody!Ortiz not a pure boxer,just a coward

[@jdflan1977]

He will beat Haney easily like Lomo.Are you saying Lomo is not a pure boxer one of the most technical fighters in history,your just a hater.It okay not to like Teo but your simply saying things that are not based on fact

[@Slimcognito858]

I completely agree with you man Ortiz won that fight! He was lighting Teo up all night and Teo was swinging at air and frustrated the whole time!

[@juniorvargas9862]

Lighting him up? He landed no eye catching shots

[@Slimcognito858]

@@juniorvargas9862 Really? check round 4 when Teo tells Ortiz to come to the corner Teo got clipped multiple times. The best sequence of the fight and telling of the true winner.

[@juniorvargas9862]

@@Slimcognito858 that smothered combination clashing arms and hitting shoulders

[@enigma372]

Need more boxing analysts on more recent topics.. keep doing ya thang man

[@DancingMad17]

It was clearly a robbery. There's seems to be a lot of casuals out there that only award aggression in fights. Doesn't matter if that aggression is effective or not.

[@jdflan1977]

I guess all you want is cowardly running doesnt matter to you if its effective or not.

[@DancingMad17]

@@jdflan1977 You sound like a casual. Go watch world star or something

[@juniorvargas9862]

So 68 to 70 punches is a clear robbery? Teo landed the cleaner eye catching shots

[@juliorivera1354]

This was not boxing…it was finessing and that will never win you a fight..Ortiz boxed against Loma. That was excellent. He’d fight and get out. He couldn’t take that chance with Lopez because he would have gotten dropped. Let’s make this easier. Go check the compubox numbers it will easily tell you the story of this fight. Lopez won l.

[@Cj-qk7il]

“clearly a robbery” they literally landed the same amount of punches but lopez threw less and landed harder, plus he was the aggressor.

[@cerromeceo]

My dumbass thought the fight was Saturday 🤦🏿

[@BoxingLife]

Aww man! Was a random day for boxing to be fair!

[@cerromeceo]

@@BoxingLife Nobody corrected me or nothing 😒 Oh well

[@joshwick09]

Lol same

[@edwincastillo8280]

@@cerromeceo don't worry. You didn't miss anything great because both, guy stunk up the place! Teo didn't do crap, didn't cut off the ring, and didn't have the IQ to trap Ortiz in his obvious bait forward wanting to counter. Ortiz started good, but gave too many reasons to get robbed especially late, and that wasn't due to stamina issues.

[@Ryuksgelus]

Good for you if you got some sleep. Up late and went to bed after a bad decision. Count yourself lucky.

[@SOLE_II_SOUL]

Ortiz normally doesn't fight this way. It's clear he had a game plan and stuck to it. It completely nullified Teo's offense. People criticizing Ortiz to fight or bite down and brawl against the lunging pressure fighter isn't smart, especially since Ortiz doesn't have the same amount of KO power. Think Saddler versus Pep. Pep is a mover but Saddler beat Pep by cutting off the ring. Ali said himself you get tired or it's impossible to dance 24/7. Teo actually had success in spurts with his pressure but undid the mental pressure whenever he got frustrated and began taunting.

[@UNSTABLE111]

I dont think he should of bit down but he should really have showed a bit more flash..especially when alot of rounds are swing rounds..which usually favor the champion..sugar ray leonard mastered stealing rounds, and I feel alot of fighters that back up need to take a page from that

[@Alex-bd4ov]

Ortiz won this fight clearly. People are blind. 😢

[@Anonymous-sy4de]

@SuperFights77 Cap! Ortiz outland him and made Teo missed alot of punches and every time he invited Ortiz in he got what he wanted! Yeah it's a reason he avoid other fighters in his division!

[@setiyoung1611]

Take the belt or dont get it at all. You dont gotta KO or brutalize him, but show superiority. Close fights have historically gone to champions. Lopez didn’t really fight his best game, but that a lot better than the boring run away game Ortiz did.

[@Anonymous-sy4de]

​@setiyoung1611 It's not running its call stick and moving obviously something yall know anything about! Teo put more effort in taunting and swing and missing than cutting off the ring like Teo supposed too! Furthermore the sport is to be hit and not get hit and two got hit alot and miss everytime Ortiz got invited in he gave Teo what he ask for! Plain and simple!

[@krowvakabon]

Also want to add something else. I was sparring a couple weeks ago and the coach basically said despite the fact I looked like I was in control (I was; opponent was throwing jabs and and I was catching them), he would be giving the round to my opponent simply because he was moving forward and throwing. That's when I started catching and shooting, and I opened up my offense. I made sure to make it clear that I could do whatever I wanted when I wanted because I'm better. Sometimes, you have to be mindful of who the judges are and what they're looking for. If Jamaine is guilty of anything, it's not showing enough flashes of clear control (even though I thought he won)

[@krowvakabon]

This fight reminded me of the Catteral-Taylor fight. I had Catteral winning, but some judges will punish you for being on the backfoot the whole time, especially if you're the challenger. That's what happened to Ortiz here

[@malcolmhoover1654]

Catteral beat the shit outta of Taylor and dropped him😂😂😂

[@krowvakabon]

@@malcolmhoover1654 that's what I thought as well (Taylor's face told the story).

[@Panyc333]

1:25 Ortiz scoring only 12 body punches and Lopez landing 33 is the complete opposite of what I saw in that fight. Ortiz was working the body early and often. It’s hard being a boxing fan anymore.

[@BabyImAcodPlaya]

I had it 115-113 for Ortiz. I had 1 swing round there so it could even be 116-112 for Ortiz. He outboxed Teo

[@boxingmaster2663]

guy above dont even know adelaide byrds name just watches boxing legends tv and tried to repeat it just become a real fan of. boxing start watching fights you poser

[@bigzGillett]

Running from a fighter for 12 rounda shouldn't warrant u a win at all, he didn't do enought ti deserve a win imo, a draw would've been a better outcome

[@BoxingLife]

Teo did f all as well, how does that warrant a win? He threw less punches and marched forward without any finesse. Why should Teo outrightly deserve the tile just because of this? As you said, a draw maybe would have been the better outcome. But how can you score that fight 117-111. Like that is crazy.

[@bigzGillett]

@BoxingLife I'm not saying he should've won, which is why I said a draw would've been better, but Ortiz didn't finesse him, he did exactly what Shakur his last fight, I hate that shit bro, when I fight guys who run around like that it upsets me bro, cuz by dat point it's not a fight its a catch n chase game, if u gonna fight the championship for the belt u gotta bring the fight to him, Ortiz didn't do that at all, Teo didn't do it either but that's not entirely on him in my opinion

[@unlimited9004]

@@BoxingLife he not saying Teo shud have won, he clearly stated a draw would have been a better outcome

[@HendrixxTheSlim]

@@bigzGillett teo invited Ortiz in the corner and Ortiz won every exchange there

[@juniorvargas9862]

@HendrixxTheSlim those exchanges were all smothered nothing really landed

[@WILLIAMMORALES-gw1zz]

Robbery, you have to win the fight convincingly to be robbed. Running and punching air is not winning a title.

[@Prymary2]

Teo has footwork issues. It's why he couldn't cut off the ring and it's why he wasn't ready to punch when Ortiz was. Also his low hands while coming forward makes it easier for opponents to land on him. Tank would probably beat Teo at this point.

[@Ziyech1]

And that 🤡 think that he has a chance against bud

[@BoxingLife]

Yeah I could see Tank countering him bad.

[@RaulRamirez-jv4rn]

Tank won’t be running around throwing love taps. He’ll definitely give Teo more opening. Thinking this fight playing out the way it did gives Tank the advantage is foolish and makes you look like a casual

[@Prymary2]

@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn The only casual here would be you if you think Tank is give Teo a bunch of openings.

[@eduardoFIFA]

As long as we all agree this self preservation, running style is killing boxing. Nobody wants to see a footwork masterclass

[@boxersal9570]

It always baffles me when guys like marciano frazier even though not athletic were always Abel to beat moving boxers ...but yet all these fighters now days can never beat a mover

[@user-rm8ot8lj3b]

Bob and weave, setups, and counters and take advantages of opponents weakness and strength.

[@drinfernodds]

​@@user-rm8ot8lj3b don't forget body shots and footwork to cut off the ring. Guys like GGG, Foreman, and Chavez Sr. were masters of shutting down escape routes. Teofimo had no answer for the exact same move Ortiz would do to get out of range.

[@boxersal9570]

@@user-rm8ot8lj3b also marciano and frazier had good defense they would get low and force u to punch down then crowd In

[@sebastianblackfyre]

Ortiz controlled much of the fight. It was whoever was dictating the fight that should win. Be it boxing or fighting.

[@sebastianblackfyre]

@@SuperFights77 Teofimi was fighting like the toothless lion under the fall. I could see he tried to execute the gameplan. But it’s harder to do than said. Ortiz also had a good gameplan, but he was pilling up points and getting those punch count numbers in. He marginally outboxed Teofimo and showed some good skills. There is dignity in defeat because it was a close fight. And Teofimo tried his best.

[@sebastianblackfyre]

@@SuperFights77 Nah, Ortiz won by fighting on the backfoot. But he was mostly avoiding a real fight. Hey, I mean I would also be afraid of Teofiemo’s power even though I’m not a boxer. I’m like pretty heavy, and Teo punches kind of hard. Any hard puncher should be avoided like how Ortiz avoided Teofeimo. So he won the fight.

[@sebastianblackfyre]

@@SuperFights77 like i would be afraid to box tank or teofimo. So I can relate to why Ortiz or Devin doesn’t wanna fight. Like would anyone enjoy getting punched in the face or the body by them? I hurts so I think they know those body shots hurt a lot so they can avoid yea✌️

[@The053199]

​@@sebastianblackfyre if he fights on the backfoot he needs to win every punch category not just jabs, otherwise youre just a goofy speaking out of emotion🤷🏽‍♂️ the onky fighters who back up and throw jabs are hurt fighters. Might as well have stopped the fight if ortiz was too hurt to throw anything else

[@CasterShellz]

This recent surge of fighters having low punch output and just running from one side of the ring to the other like they are doing suicide drills at basketball practice ISN’T boxing. Outside fighting and outside fighters can be entertaining and effective. But what Ortiz did was NOT boxing and he was giving away rounds by running around the ring and not punching. Bad strategy in a world title fight since he didn’t win, bad business strategy to get you future fights with promoters or boxers, and bad marketing strategy to build your fanbase. A potential career-killing performance for Jamaine Ortiz.

[@hulkman245]

Hard time believing this is the same guy that beat Loma with an amazing gameplan

[@BoxingLife]

Very true! Styles make fights

[@hulkman245]

@@SuperFights77 he clearly didn't

[@wearycry8922]

The best analysis come from men with integrity

[@stevegwizzle3560]

If ur the challenger, never leave the decision up to the judges. U go in there to prove why youre the best and why u deserve the win. Youre NOT there to outpoint youre opponent. Its a stupid strategy imo...

[@laurencebinwag6963]

That's why INOUE is the BEST FIGHTER, he makes all his fights EXCITING even if the opponent is always in the BACKFOOT, RUNNING kind and refuse to ENGAGE.

[@The053199]

None of his opponents have ran or backfooted

[@laurencebinwag6963]

@@The053199 If Butler's, FOOLTON's fight are not back foot then LET IT BE, IT IS WHAT IT IS maybe they even call it SWEET SCIENCE in the WEST.

[@t.ypuppy6283]

Runner but he did expose Teo. Teo has to get smarter if he expects to touch any of the top players. But to his credit he did eventually figure it out

[@drg6161]

I was at the fight, up close (yet to watch it on TV, but I will) and I had it 7-5 for Ortiz. This said, I do agree that I don't think you can really take belts away from somebody when you've ran the whole fight. There was also a ton of swing rounds (something we were talking about at the fight in our row). I think anything from a draw out was reasonable here (117-111 was definitely crazy though). This said, I definitely don't want to see this fight again

[@bigman6781]

I think Teo’s inability to cut the ring off speaks to the culture of outboxing/counterpunching in boxing nowadays. There’s a stigma against pressure fighting as being mindless, easy, and brutish and because of this stigma pressuring is neglected. I guarantee if you were to ask fans/fighters who’s more technical out of Teo or Beterbiev most will say Teo based off his HL’s.

[@drinfernodds]

There's also fewer trainers who can teach fighters how to be effective pressure fighters. They think a pressure fighter just needs to move forward and throw a lot, missing on any subtleties or techniques to make it easier to be a pressure fighter.

[@jesseorona7737]

Give it to the REFEREE He saw more Action..

[@lennypensante5309]

Personally I think comparing Ortiz last night performance to haney's performance against Regis makes no sense at all. Haney was jabbing and working while in the back foot, connecting the clearest punches of the fight and hurting Regis, on the other hand Oriz wouldnt engage AT ALL at some moments, barely jabbing or trying to actually connect besides those two flurries. A truly weak performance coming from a challenger, besides Teo's incompetence to cut off the ring. AT MOST, it could've been a draw. But you cannot expect to get on the ring with a champion, trying to survive rather than fight for twelve rounds and the judges giving you his belt for it. Ortiz deserved to lose.

[@ShakurTheAshier]

and it was Regis who was hesitant to engage because Haneys counters were so effective and he'd catch combinations every time. Teo chased the guy the entire time, they claim he couldn't close off the ring but if a fighter isn't looking to engage you're never going to catch them lol. Regis is a perfect example of someone who couldn't close off the ring against a guy who was still looking to engage and do some damage and actually punish him for not being able to establish position.

[@rafaelteran7756]

The fans got robbed, watching a boxer run all night!! Winter want to see a runner again!! Ortiz got paid to run!!

[@DocMcCoy109]

Thank you.

[@elemental1175]

love your videos

[@BoxingLife]

Much appreciated!

[@carlhilton8755]

If someone's plan is to knot get KO'd, more than likely, they won't. If someone's plan is to run, they probably will be able to run.

[@JD02761]

100% agree with your assessment mate

[@UNSTABLE111]

Ortiz made teo look bad but never truly punished him..only a few times he had teo off balance and took advantage of it during clinches..It really was a winnable fight for ortiz, but there are times he needed to just stand his ground..Should of took a page from Leonard and Calzaghe and just use flurries and flash to really steal those swing rounds..

[@dinosaur2573]

Runner Ortiz vs Teofimo who can't cut off the ring if his life depended on it

[@tmac5503]

You think it’s easy to cut off the ring against someone who game plan is to run ? Stop repeating what you here and use your own eyes

[@rolandmusic8846]

Teo came to fight not to cut off the ring .

[@trollmastermike52845]

@@tmac5503 ortiz threw and landed more punches, also ortiz moments where very basic and half good boxer could have cut the ring. Teo proved he is mediocre often and once in a blue moon pretty good.

[@tmac5503]

@@trollmastermike52845 He ran only landed two more punches than Teo. Put Teo landed more power punches and was trying to get Ortiz to fight. Teo a champ you got to take the fight to him. The right man won

[@trollmastermike52845]

@@tmac5503 i agree as raining champ you need to do more, but you have to look at the rounds who lanned what and how much not just raw punches landed. you could have a guy land 400 punches in one round but land zero in the rest of 11/12 while the other guy landed only 10 punch per round. guess who one the guy who landed less punches.

[@paulhaig2467]

In my opinion Ortiz put on a masterclass in BOXING but the corrupt judges were not going to let him win or at the least give it a draw.

[@juniorvargas9862]

Masterclass? The bars pretty low because he landed no clean eye catching shots outside of two ineffective check hooks. No power shots at all

[@mrallin6050]

RUNNING NOT BOXING to box you have to be in in your boxing stance 90% of the time

[@crimsonfalcon07]

I had this as a loss for both guys, personally... Didn't think either even deserved a draw.

[@qaidikramuddin]

Plenty tracks in the US for him to run on.

[@user-hs9sp5ih6x]

the whole circus theme was corny as fuck hahahah they had a guy juggling fucking bowling pins during the walkout

[@BoxingLife]

Yeah was pretty wild! All to sell the fight as something it never was going to be...

[@davidvasquez5387]

Might as well pull the gloves off, and play tag chasing each other around the ring.

[@MiguelAlexisArguello]

There was a little (or a lot) of both. Ever since the Loma win, Teo has not added new levels to his game. There's a lot of delusion when it comes to his overall career accolades. 1 or 2 great wins are good, but it doesn't make you the greatest fighter of all time. He seems to truly believe that in his head, and it's what's holding him back from developing further imo. One thing he hasn't worked on is cutting off the ring. On the flip side, Ortiz boxed well, but he also wasn't setting up much offense...at all. Would have been a perfect game plan if Ortiz had taken more chances with his offense.

[@Tepaneca]

Is this combat sports or the track team?

[@malcolmhoover1654]

Strategic combat or u run the risk of dying,boxing is dangerous u don't do dumb shit to satisfy fans because they will laugh at u for your foolishness if u leave your game plan

[@Tepaneca]

@@malcolmhoover1654 don’t sign up for combat then 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@c4cubey931]

@@malcolmhoover1654 sweet science doesn't have to be boring in order to be good, check out triple g for example

[@The053199]

​@@malcolmhoover1654 surviving 12 rounds must be the new criteria for simply winning. If youre gonna back up 12 rounds then throw something other than the jab🤷🏽‍♂️

[@foxybingo1112]

I think Ortiz threw away the fight in the later rounds but outboxed Teo in several of the rounds later on. It was a match between two very good boxers and I don't think it reflects that badly on him, its just that Lopez was dealing with a severely underrated operator. The problem was that Ortiz's output, already low, dropped in the second half and allowed Lopez to assert himself and clearly land the more damaging shots, securing a very close win in my book. It does show a weakness against back foot boxers and makes me think that Haney has all the neccesary tools to beat him. I feel like Lopez would end up getting picked apart by Haney on the outside.

[@BoxingLife]

Good comment and respect your opinion

[@chiefbuuly1240]

Why do you have the same voice as Wrestling bios?

[@wenhaoguo854]

For me this fight only improved how great Loma is…

[@Vodolaga_Nova]

Well if people wont watch Lopez Ortiz 2, then let's do Lopez Keyshon Davis

[@6oulx]

Ortiz never getting another opportunity like that every again.

[@marvina.8502]

Ortiz got confused , he thought it was a running competition not a boxing fight , you can't win by doing so in boxing , you got to go out there and fight !!! 😎

[@antoniorich8054]

Real defense can be done in a very small space. Duran, Benitez, Leonard, Whittaker, Mayweather could all stand in front of you and make you pay. Queensbury rules came about because the fights were much like mma today. Ironically today's mma makes Boxing "runners "look old fashioned and boring. Imho if Boxing is to not just survive but thrive All rings should be 18 ft maximum 16 minimum. Those great boxers can still play defense but it will cut down on runners significantly.

[@mikeygallos5000]

For the 1st time in my life I was hoping to some Old School Vegas corruption. I also thought Ortiz won but I kept hoping the jugdes did their thing and give Lopez the win. I find him way more entertaining.

[@RickyRawM05]

🏃‍♂️💨 Runner vs Boxer 🥊

[@vanjones1749]

In my opinion Teo won he was the aggressor and landed the significant blows than Ortiz. To me the great technical fighters knew how to mix in pure boxing and exchange of punches to please the crowd and judges. Like Ray Leonard, Hearns, and say even Lennox Lewis

[@MM-qt5bi]

I get people’s reason for not wanting Ortiz to win and that’s fine. But Teo did absolutely nothing to adjust. He just got more frustrated and kept missing. Doesn’t look good that you can’t cut off the ring man.

[@The053199]

Teo came to fight. He didnt need to adjust. If anything, adjust the ring to 16ft like in the amateurs and this chickenshit style wont last another year.

[@KnockoutNarratives]

You can’t fight like that and expect the judges to be ok. He didn’t deserve to win

[@DR-ed6wk]

The term runner was created since the Floyd Mayweather days

[@KasanovaBlack]

Ortiz has some what if an amateur style it I don’t think that will work well in the pros especially against Champions

[@marvina.8502]

Track & Field Ortíz , dude got legs !!! 😎

[@ruuwrl]

Going by punch stats Ortiz landed 2 more punches with less accuracy and if u look at power punches teo outlanded him by like 5 punches power count more than jabs so 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Sargo197]

Runner. If both run, no fight.

[@justinjames5307]

A runner cant win a fight that way

[@Jaybeewavy]

She’s a track starrrr!!!

[@planetaryhealer5540]

why is that even a question we all seen ortiz runnin so why these questions

[@briezylh]

🏃🏽‍♂️🏃🏽‍♂️🏃🏽‍♂️🏃🏽‍♂️🏃🏽‍♂️🏃🏽‍♂️

[@GreyLeo]

Nah Teo vs Haney should be their next fights and lets put it to rest.

[@Saulgodinez33]

Teos body shots even out the pumches Ortiz through

[@bensylver5113]

Ortiz won on my card too .

[@gungrave10]

Lopez really need to learn how to cut off ring, and setup his punch better. He shouldn't won this fight. Lopez is only moving forward. It was Ortiz who decide when to engage & not to. Why blame Ortiz when the pressure fighter is the one that failed his game plan

[@OnePunchKO818]

You have to bring the fight to the champion. Ortiz did not do that. Teo also took the championship rounds and also landed the cleaner and effective punches while putting pressure.

[@Jose-gh1mf]

Fight could have gone either way at the end of the day teo is the champ and hes going to get those swing rounds its just how combat sports work. And im not mad at the decision either because ortiz didnt learn from the loma fight that you have to close it out and show u want it more

[@paulbowman1762]

I WAS AGREEING WITH YOY UNTIL YOU GAVE IT 116-112 ORTIZ !, 2 ISH ROUNDS MAYBE BUT NOT 4 MY FRIEND YOU 👊😅🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@riq3241]

Are punches in the clinch counted as "landed shots" in Compubox numbers? Based off the eye test I noticed Ortiz landed quite a few flurries of pitty-patty punches in the clinch... and theres no doubt that those got added in to the stat. Those however are NOT SCORING SHOTS. Teo landed to the body alot and started catching Ortiz to the head near the end and turned it up. Ortiz literally gassed second half of the fight and threw NO OFFENSE. You cant just give him a round because he landed 2 partially blocked check right hooks but ate multiple body shots and right hands/hooks. Overall Jamaine Ortiz' performance was a DISGRACE TO BOXING, and for that showing he deserves to be fed to SUBRIEL MATIAS NEXT.

[@AMGELECTRONICS]

Show pictures of Ortiz landing shoots😅😅😅😅😅😅 There are none

[@BoxingLife]

I literally did!

[@juniorvargas9862]

Fr they were all shoulders arms and gloves shots

[@saspyelric791]

Thanks for this! Teo won imo Ortiz box well but too reserve 👊🏾🇵🇭

[@DSedits4fun]

I don’t think Ortiz deserved to win and I’m happy he didn’t win the fight, that kinda stupid style shouldn’t be rewarded not to say Teo did great or blew him out of the water, but the sport of boxing wouldn’t win if they reward fight styles like Ortiz’s more fighters would do it and the more fighters do it the less people would be willing to watch boxing, I’m happy that silly little road running didn’t get him the belt be slick and defensive with intent to hurt

[@Mula183]

Runner track star 😂

[@SageHeru]

Robbery

[@ralphalonso9838]

My gut tells me Matias would have done a better job catching up to Ortiz and knocked him out.

[@selwynandrews7716]

Damn shame, they robbed that man smh

[@antoniorich8054]

What I find funny is that right before the fight Teo said Puerto Rican boxers are soft .Ortiz born in Massachusetts to PR parents, goes into the ring with the Puerto Rico flag and then makes Lopez look correct. Clearly Puerto Rico boxers are not soft but Ortiz in this case was .I can't understand how Lopez can insult you and then you lose your huevos.

[@2023C8HTC]

Ortiz couldn’t be pushed back because he was already going back How do you use a jab against that? I guess you have to run faster to catch your opponent

[@DavorBa]

After witnessing this, i believe there aint no way Lopez can win against Haney let alone Crawford.

[@drinfernodds]

Yeah, Teo does his best work against guys who pressure him. Anyone who forces him to be the aggressor gives him trouble.

[@DavorBa]

@SuperFights77 But we can barely call this thing with Ortiz a win. Also Haney is more defensive, bigger than Ortiz and isn't afraid to throw hands.

[@DavorBa]

@SuperFights77 I agree he won but he shown his weakness in inability to cut the ring and deal with sleek hit n run fighters who dont engage him. All Ortiz needed was some heart and more output and he would've won, but his overall tactic was very good. Haney has a better defense and doesn't rely on running nearly as much, meaning he will have more opportunity to strike. But you are right that also means he can *get* punched. But overall I don't think Lopez can win vs Haney but I would sure like to see them fight regardless.

[@malcolmhoover1654]

​@SuperFights77Haney will beat the hell outta teo he will leave the fight looking like kam,loma,and regis all lumped up and bruised and people call him pillow fist but watch guys face after the fight now look at those guys face after they fought other competition and tell me Haney ain't accurate 😂😂😂

[@erikmurray3661]

Bottom line is you can't take the champs belt that way, technically Ortiz was robbed. However he didn't show he wanted to beat Teo convincingly.

[@largon2008]

Styles make fights. It would be a different fight vs crawford and teo because crawford will not run like.ortiz did. Teo won this fair and square being the aggressor and connecting clean shots. Ortiz wanted to survive and not be a KP victim

[@ramilleallen1101]

Lopez won. He pressed the action. He landed more. He was more accurate. He won. He needs to jab more in his next fight though.

[@143Magnes]

I think your analysis is correct, but tour conclusions are wrong. Ortiz cannot win a fight being on the backfoot for 12 rounds and landing less power punches than Teo and just a few more jabs. There's a thing called Ring generalship and Ortiz had none, he basically ran away trying to make a Sandor Martin 2 kinda fight, but unlike Martin, he couldn't put Teo down twice. In fact, Teo showed decent head movement and reaction, since he made Ortiz miss like crazy (just like Ortiz made him miss). I concur that Teo lacks fundamentals on how to fight slick boxers, and I honestly think that he lost to Martin, but he didn't lose this one. To land 2 more punches (jabs) than the campion, while backpedaling for 12 rounds doesn't make you a champion, and while Teo's performance was poor, Ortiz's was poorer. So, boring fight, Teo won, Ortiz probably lost all his potential audience, and let's move on.

[@drinfernodds]

On the flip side, I wouldn't say Teo showed any ring generalship either. Ortiz became reliant on escaping to his right, and Teo and his corner failed to find a way to shut it down. In a way everyone lost.

[@BoxingLife]

I think its very harsh to say ortiz had NO 'ring generalship' and 'ran away' I think it makes it look even poorer the fact Teo couldn't do more! If anything that embarrassing for a guy that is calling out Terence Crawford! Like come on surely Teo shoudl be knocking a guy out like this if he boxing like that. p.s respect your opinion btw

[@usernameisjonah]

Teofimo won. Just not the way everyone expected. Everyone thought it was gonna be a KO win for Lopez.

[@2023C8HTC]

FREAKIN RUNNER

[@lloydcrawford1700]

The Sport is “BOXING”. Ortiz was on the back foot, that’s why the it was called a TEO WIN. They will always give the win to the fighter who is pressure. Teo was the aggressor

[@sincerelyme7423]

👍👍👍👍👍💪🙏

[@joegallo7838]

Ortiz just ran he didn't box he should join track and field

[@stevejurado8069]

Ortiz has more moves than Danny Terrio.

[@buckstrickland956]

Ortiz won... he fought his fight

[@hb20852]

One of the best runner and who is the responsibility for that, the trainer and game planer

[@Leo-uy4qv]

Look at the compubox numbers , Teofimo landed more powershots than ortiz , you cant win a fight by running a marathon all 12 rounds , gentlemen Boxing is a sport of contact , not a running sport. Floyd moved (lineal) a lot but also hit a lot , thats the difference here

[@damon123jones]

running isn't a win

[@inchlorIentztJiIu]

Robbed

[@Mikeyhothands]

I think Teo won fairly 115-113 Teo pushed the action controlled the centre landed more throwing less and most importantly as a challenger YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE CHAMPION

[@pdubhnic]

Teo's level is that of a very good UK fighter but in America he's a B- caliber fighter.

[@pdubhnic]

@@SuperFights77 Even a UK fighter gets to wear the crown every once in a blue moon look at Josh Taylor

[@The053199]

Ortiz never threw uppercuts or hooks. Just jabs. Teo threw every kind of punch. That tells me ortiz was scared and teo did what he wanted. Theres no way ortiz trained for 2 months to jab and shuffle his feet.

[@augustopoliche8908]

People gotta stop mentioning Floyd comparing with Ortiz. Floyd had everything in his defence. It wasnt at all like what this guy showed. It was a shame and this is the time when having judges helps boxing. Because if the winner was only about compubox stats he could have won.