Lord Windgrace vs Breya vs Inalla vs Silas/Thrasios | CEDH Gameplay

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

*Decklists* Lord Windgrace: bit.ly/S04E07-Lord-Windgrace Breya: bit.ly/S04E07-Breya Inalla: bit.ly/S04E07-Inalla Silas / Thrasios: bit.ly/S04E07-Silas-Thrasios

[@SteelySnow7]

One unedited misplay was Mikes second land drop after obliterate.

[@SuperMK1989]

What is Ryan's playmat? Where can I get one?

[@brotheranime15]

Can yall explain the misplay please

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

​@@brotheranime15 The misplay we noted was that polluted delta cannot fetch a Plateau. Mike on his Obliterate turn played a command beacon and an ancient tomb. The only thing that would've changed was he couldn't cast Collector Ouphe that turn. Mike could still reanimate the lands he needed to be able to cast Sire next turn, so it didn't make a difference overall.

[@chesstitan70]

So why does Garrett have a paradox engine in his deck. Its banned. You can see him mill it at 12:55

[@AhMrJIAssume]

Folger: *plays Jin Gitaxias Mike: “I’m about to end this man’s whole career”

[@TheMcK777]

"During his upkeep, Mike loses his Mana Crypt trigger and takes three damage" the game

[@beaublack5317]

Legit never seen that many missed tosses in a row

[@MrThewooter]

Tbf, i think this is one of the reasons he won the game .

[@isaacsoong1621]

Mike: Everyone got nothing else? Aight, Obliterate and Sire of Insanity. Game two?

[@hollow3951]

Yeah that was kind of crazy. I'm so glad that he was able to make a viable CEDH deck out of Lord Windgrace.

[@TheGirthiestSausage]

@@hollow3951 it’s a really good deck imo I run one as well as an engine for reanimator deck with a a land stax theme into it then going for one of 3 combo lines world gorger with dryad and valkut with 5 lands or mike and trike or the necrotic ooze devourer and triskelion combo

[@TheGirthiestSausage]

@@hollow3951 not top tier but I’d say it’s like tier 2

[@hollow3951]

@@TheGirthiestSausage holy cow that's such an old comment. It is definitely a cool deck.

[@TheGirthiestSausage]

@@hollow3951 yeah just saw the video lol

[@Dracinard]

*Halfway through*: Alright, I've seen most of the game and honestly I don't see the hype around Lord Windgrace. It's a cool idea, but I wouldn't call it a CEDH level commander, I mean, it's just sitting there, not doing anyth- Mike: Casts Obliterate Oh. Oh! Ohhhhhh... shit. Well played, and respect for the cat man.

[@sobman]

Well... It's a bad strat. Everyone else was doing something, and he wasn't. While resources were expended, he just casts an uncounerable spell. Any deck *should* have been doing more throughout the game 🤷‍♂️

[@artificium_]

@@sobman bad strat why? I guess it's an expensive spell but he's playing a lands matter deck. Also mld but who gives a shit about that

[@Putrefax]

I mean it seems to me like he got screwed on draws, he kept a one land hand at the start and couldn't start pitching lands to his bin for ages since cat daddy got countered the first time he cast it.

[@sobman]

@@artificium_ because it doesn't take much effort to sit in the sidelines while 3 good decks are playing, then you just sneak a win it. It's a strat, just not a good one. Also, is not very nice, everyone comes to play, sitting and having your spells on the edge of "not good enough to be counted" doesn't mean you have some ground breaking scheme

[@sobman]

@@Putrefax it's not unreasonable the cat got counted. It's pretty much all he can do with his deck. That's, imo, what made it bad.

[@Phelps285]

Ryan's "Doomsday, pass." killed me. He could have probably (I haven't seen the list) kept Top on the field and then used Top to crack his pile, cast Gush (or Night's Whisper if he didn't have the Islands), cast Thought Scour to mill a Lab Man and some other card, reanimated Lab Man, and cast Gitaxian Probe to win. Again, I haven't seen the list, but he should have been able to win there by using SDT to crack the pile.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Yup, his misplay that cost him the game was shuffling away his sensei's top.

[@Phelps285]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG As a Doomsday player, I understand completely. Every pile is made through remembering bad experiences.

[@hollow3951]

I thought the same thing Aiden Phelps, though I didn't know the exact line because I've only tested doomsday with this crazy janky mono-black vintage deck.

[@aaronhooker7588]

Doomsday, pass. Me: Oh dear God, what have you done?! Lol, it's supposed to be Doomsday, win.

[@apock2474]

12:56 that is a very interesting card in Garrett’s Graveyard there. Guess this game is a bit on the older side?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Sharp eye. It was from an older game in our backlog.

[@An_Otter_Dennis]

was looking for this exact comment :D

[@hampusakergren918]

Me too

[@Zectzozda]

Me three!

[@corwinloomis-price375]

Me four

[@ogwalrusboy332]

Ryan's turn one ordering hurts me on the inside. If he used mana crypt to play talisman of dominance he could have then tapped gemstone and the talisman to play his talisman of heirarchy and then using the mana from heirarchy cast mana vault allowing it to remain untapped.

[@the40inchtaco]

That hurt me.

[@martynscott5192]

Good call

[@blankchexTHC]

Amen.

[@TraucerDaUrbania]

Ryan: Doomsday? Folger: Wheel Ryan: Suprised Pikachu meme

[@serenastieveling]

As a locust god player this pleased me on a deeper level.

[@blaisejones4066]

Best episode yet, I couldn’t predict who was gonna win at any point

[@jacurururur8848]

Really not even after obliterate?

[@dzyer8359]

Been a somewhat casual windgrace player for almost 2years now and have been waiting for this. Thank you for showing windgrace in the competitive scene!

[@CaptCozy]

This past weekend I was looking for a CEDH version of Windgrace, and BOY HOWDY am I proud of Mike! Thanks for showcasing what Windy can do!

[@grouphug1013]

this is the first time I've ever seen someone scoop in cEDH

[@ryanfitzpatrick3008]

Less of a scoop and more knowing he couldn't get out if the lock. He has no mana and no hand or any way of stopping the sire from swinging so he just conceded to save time.

[@khurgar8120]

I belive its happened on this very channel before. I dont recall the details but I think it was a 1v1 and one guy had a recuring silence that he cast over and over.

[@bradenskaggs5350]

@@khurgar8120 Technically that wasnt a scoop, as Ryan technically played it out against Dylan. In case you're wondering, that was the Teferi vs Brago vs Godo vs Muldrotha game, where Dylan locked out Ryan with a Brago Blink+Archaeomancer to bring back Silence repeatedly and lock out Ryan (the Godo player) before killing him

[@sjoerd972]

Also: what an epic game. Absolutely loved the land destruction.

[@DivinePenguin00]

Holy Obliterate! What a great game and a come-from-behind win from Windgrace!

[@ShinyUmbris1556]

As a Lord Windgrace "main" this warms my heart that he got his moment to shine on here.

[@justinmcadams6418]

I think this was the most interactive game you guys have filmed yet. I loved the numerous back and forth plays that seemed nonstop throughout the game.

[@sjoerd972]

@12:56, is that a Paradox Engine getting milled? Old game?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

This was recorded before the banning of Paradox. Sharp eye!

[@townsin]

I saw that too 😂😂😂

[@Foxribble19]

@@townsin same lol

[@poiuoloi]

Don't think it would change the game, but in the Obliterate turn, the land for the turn was an Ancient Tomb used to pay for Obliterate, so the Command Beacon later was a missplay :p

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Slight misplay on Mike's part, but he had the ability to reanimate both it and crystal vein to cast Sire next turn, so the outcome didn't change. The only change was casting collector ouphe. Which didn't win him the game either way.

[@evangelion00]

YES! This is what I like to see. Different competitive commanders doing new things rather than the same old deck out wincon. Would love to see more content like this please!

[@orsettomorbido]

Oh wow, that ending was brutal! What a cool game. The Doomsday into Wheel of Fortune was so funny XD

[@loonar7960]

That Obliterate was one of the funniest things I've seen on this channel.

[@RogueMeta]

Mike, that deck was awsome. Makes me almost want to build a similar (non-competitive) deck just to armageddon people to the ground. Continue with the awsome content. Hi from Switzerland

[@Pantuflein]

a refreshing ending in this world of Fish Consultations! great game

[@brettsutherland8390]

Easily my favourite mtg channel and gameplay, I'm always excited to see your videos pop up!

[@ArgentumEmperio]

This is the only channel I follow in regards to cEDH and I'll be honest, I always thought that Lord Windgrace was a cEDH commander. Didn't know it wasn't widely regarded as one and cool to see its performance and what it was able to do! ^^

[@xXCigarXx]

This was a excellent game. I subscribed with hopes that the rest of your games are nearly as good.

[@Bcdeano]

Awesome! I love Jund stax. Converted my old Shattergang Brothers to Windgrace as he generates so much value. Glad to see you guys showcasing him!

[@Maldin22]

Like Mike, I've long been an advocate of Windgrace LMD. I've been slowly getting all the pieces I need to bring the deck to a cEDH level since it came out, and this episode made me so happy.

[@artificium_]

That life from the loam into the scroll rack was so spicy. And great playing from Mike! An obliterate, bahaha I love it. Nice to see a unique deck too!

[@snorri0411]

well those were two of the more spicy kills I've seen lately... good job to the cat man!

[@Train__]

"Folger draws a card, yearns for his long lost Dack..." mood. #JusticeForDack

[@capt.cheesecake6875]

As a casual EDH player, I love seeing these competitive games since most of the time I find myself saying: "What on Earth is going on?". I really enjoyed this episode. I do wonder, is Prossh - Food Chain still a competitive deck? It's been a long time since I last saw Prossh on a competitive table.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

He has fallen out of favor in place of other food chain commanders like Korvold and the First Sliver. That isn't to say he's not competitive. It's just to say there are more powerful ones out now.

[@hollow3951]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Isn't there also an argument for Tazri as a viable competitive commander?

[@nathanjamesgoodner]

@@hollow3951 tazri isn't as good as niv mizzet reborn who in turn isn't as good as the first sliver

[@nathanjamesgoodner]

Still usable, but just a bit outclassed.

[@josefranciscodasilvaeolive674]

@@nathanjamesgoodner Excellent description. 👍

[@cole10002002]

Thanks for posting in this crazy world right now. I cant play mtg and your videos are helping with wanting to so much 💚

[@UHPhilipA]

Man I'm so loving all these videos! Awesome to see Windgrace get the victory here too. Woot woot!

[@FlashKillerX]

That was an absolutely crazy last couple of turns. The wheel of fortune after the doomsday, the obliterate after the pact of negation. Hilarious ways to force losses. And the stacks windgrace slammed down at the end was just too much there. Awesome

[@devnakz]

Most entertaining match so far! Hope you guys are safe and doing well. Keep up the great content!

[@stkleim]

7:53 I know this is an old video, but how did Ryan deal 4 damage to Dack Fayden? Breya says target creature gets -4/-4, which is the only thing that seems like this could be referring to, but Dack isn't a creature? Is there some other effect on the board that I'm missing?

[@KYRAP17]

Lord Wingrace just "obliterate"-d everyone.

[@beemo9494]

Hello! I've been watching your videos for over a year and I decided to sub today. I love your content and always have. Keep up the great work!

[@AidanWR]

What was the interaction between Ryan and Garrett with Silas at 10:20? It looked kinda hostile, but I can't really tell

[@Lasor4]

HOLY SHOOT that turn 9 was SPECTACULAR

[@NinjaMoose234]

Ryan raw dogging that Doomsday made me audibly "Oh noooooooooooo." Bold move, but not surprised it didn't work out. If his only out was to just send it, then I understand, but if not; C'mon son, you know better than that.

[@arlopaden9794]

This is one of the more exciting games I've seen in a while

[@bowler9785]

Yes!!! I've been building that style of Windgrace deck for a while now and everyone told me it was going to be average at best. Thank you Mike, I'm now vindicated :)

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

They've doubted windgrace since day 1!

[@ZombieKaktus]

This game was crazy. Loved Mike's deck.

[@orsettomorbido]

It's literally the first time that i've witnessed ANYONE paying for Mystic Remora! Wow.

[@michelecaporilli8873]

"Bryan cracks his Polluted Delta and fetches for a Plateau". LOL 6:30

[@tibx2617]

i'm new edh/cedh and i bought the kitty precon and upped it into an expensive competitive styled one.. this motivates me to fix it up xD

[@jayceehampton9694]

I don't know if you guys watch family Guy, but Mike reminded me of that old man tossing tumbleweeds all over the street, saying "Y'all laugh at me! Y'all laugh at me," and then hopes in new ride afterwards.

[@mattfox6288]

That combo at the end by mike was nasty!

[@vanishingumbreon7615]

3:00 best part of the video (followed closely by the wheel of fortune)

[@GaucheEtVeule]

Guess that Windgrace didn't take that well the destruction of Urborg uh

[@ordephodos]

Ok! that frist misplay u have see, but on 7:55 on Breya sacrifice, she gives 3 damage on a target PLAYER not on the dack, the damage is on a player nothing else, where the the other damage has come from i don`t know.

[@arandombox9276]

Pedro Hodos Dude I thought I was going crazy when I saw that misplay

[@bradenskaggs5350]

@@arandombox9276 I believe Breya was errata'd to be able to hit Walkers. I may be mistaken here however

[@bradenskaggs5350]

When Dominaria was released, WotC decided to errata all cards that say "target player" to now say "target player or planeswalker" for damage. This was not a mistake, but it was badly explained in game

[@KenBaumann]

What an Obliterate! Also, I hope y'all stay safe and healthy during the COVID-19 crisis. As a big fan, I'd prioritize that over seeing new episodes (and y'all attending the tournament in NJ).

[@timc.2990]

10:48 Mike couldn't actually cast Windgrace with 2 green mana, since he had a forest and green-imprinted chrome mox, right?

[@wandererofwastes4221]

Yeah I noticed the same thing

[@jeffnorris211]

That ended was sickkk

[@dustin266]

That Obliterate play was dirty, I love it.

[@asinclair666]

That ending was epic and amazing!

[@5ManaAndADream]

Everytime someone casts doomsday I am somehow surprised to read/hear "loses half their life". I always manage to forget thats part of the rules text.

[@forerealz]

Phenomenal game!! and the ending made me so happy.

[@TCG9777]

Windgrace player came out of nowhere with that play XD

[@marioortizveliz5221]

that was beautiful

[@LeviClay]

That was an amazing end

[@ueberslave215]

So beautiful content, senks for the great job

[@MrAngeloRibleza]

Wow a Lord Wingrace deck winning a cEDH battle with a mix of politics and power. Amazing!

[@TheQueerLeaf]

Perfection ! Doomsday into wheel of fortune lol

[@dathore]

I'm one happy Demon when ever I see a game with a Sire of Insanity in play, Rakdos would be very amused.

[@Tupiaz]

13:57 Ryan is at 21 loosing half his life rounded up (11) however he goes to 11. Not really important here but if you cast Doomsday at 1 life you would die.

[@ankhi3585]

Glad somebody else noticed.

[@nikos731]

One of the best games in the channel

[@angellopez6475]

The wheel of fortune and then the obliterate turn was hype

[@BaalRoi]

12:56 Paradox hits the bin?! are you playing with your own Banlists? Quite a good game, but honestly there were so many missed attacks on Windgrace, I feel like u underestimated him hardly! Also, how does one plays doomsday not for the win!? xD

[@nicolasporretta4533]

12:57 is that a paradox engine in Garrett’s GY? :O

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

This was from an older game. He didn't end up using it so it didn't matter.

[@alokpatki2155]

Hi, I don't think this would have made a difference in the game overall, but at 6:30 Ryan cracks a Polluted Delta to fetch a Plateau....correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see how you can get a Mountain Plains from a Swamp Island fetchland?

[@alokpatki2155]

NM, I'm an idiot, just saw the "misplay" thing on the screen, sorry

[@steveirwin6104]

All I can say as a Windgrace player is: O B L I T E R A T E

[@matmat7940]

14:49 Where does this Ancient Tomb came from ;) ? And if it was his land for this turn he shouldn't be able to play Command Beacon.

[@filiphorvath8932]

Lol at 13:04 you can see a paradox engine in Garrett's graveyard xD

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

This is from an older recording, so we let it slide since he didn't play it.

[@filiphorvath8932]

Playing With Power MTG it was a throwback to those good ol’ days 😭

[@kbro9602]

Can some help me understand how Ryan at 6:30 “cracks” a polluted delta for a plateau?

[@kbro9602]

Nevermind, I just read Alok Patki’s comment and reply and I too am an idiot. Totally missed the word misplay right in the middle of the screen.

[@slawlesstcg]

One of the best episodes

[@johnweinhandl8890]

HELP can anyone tell me what Ryan's playmat is?! And where to find it

[@vincenzoorasi2498]

Can someone please explain what happened at 7:58? How were 4 points of damage dealt to dack by sacrificing breya? Thank you

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Breya's ability states you can pay 2 and sacrifice 2 artifacts to do one of her 3 modes. One of the modes is to deal 4 damage to a player or planeswalker (this was errata'd). Since Breya is an artifact creature, you can sacrifice her to herself to do the damage.

[@vincenzoorasi2498]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG really? Breya has been errata so that she can hit pws for 3? Fuck I didn't know that!! Thanks!!

[@RagingPoo]

Not so much Breya specifically, but any card that says damage to player can also hit pws

[@vincenzoorasi2498]

@@RagingPoo no that's not correct, any card that says "creature or player" now says "any target", which includes pws

[@vincenzoorasi2498]

Cards that say "damage to player" still only mean players

[@oscarchan7196]

14:02 Folger was at 21 before resolving Doomsday. He loses half his life rounded up, so he should be at 10 after Doomsday, instead of 11.

[@leress]

Doomsday rounds up.

[@azure6743]

Doomsday "loses half rounded up", the life lost is rounded up so the life remaining is rounded down. So he should have been at 10 after.

[@joshualo8226]

At 12:57 Garrett has a paradox engine in his graveyard. Ban list still in effect?

[@alexisrodriguez7127]

Wow that finish was awsome

[@Arcdemon44]

That was the strongest showing of Windgrace I have ever seen, so damn good.

[@ryanbrock4258]

That was a crazy game!!

[@alexq2411]

12:56 there’s a paradox engine in Garrett’s graveyard

[@sintwelve]

Lord WIndgrace!!! Amazing play! How about a voltron theme for everyone?

[@mrfont12]

I know it made no difference in the end, but at 14:00 Ryan’s life should have gone to 10, not 11. His life was at 21, and doomsday reads that the player loses half their life rounded UP, meaning he loses 11, not 10, putting him at 10 life

[@lucasdomingue9319]

6:30 hold on... Polluted Delta. cracked into plateau? That's illegal!

[@oo7x7oo]

Suggestion: Cards in hand show somewhere next to name/life. Cards in hand is extremely crucial in cEDH and it may explain some moves.

[@classicsidepart1477]

Love your content, guys!!!!! But as a more casual oriented player that enjoys watching the beauty of the "c-Part" of our beloved format, I have the following question: Ryans turn one was gas! No doubt about it. But what's the reasoning behind playing and tapping the Mana Vault to cast other stuff, when Ryan could have done basically the same without the Vault (tap land, tap Crypt, play one Talisman, tap the Talisman to cast the next one). That way, he could have had a turn 2 with 8 mana instead of paying 4 in the upkeep to untap the Vault. This is something I see rather often and always wonder why, especially if nothing significant happens on turn 2 (or 3 in the more casual rounds). Thanks a lot in advance! Keep up the great work!

[@abehasinski2622]

7:53 He activates breya dealing 4 damage to Dack Fayden? how? Am i missing something?

[@venomousfire225]

Noticed the same thing. Breya can give -4/-4 to target creature until End of Turn, but Dack Fayden is a planeswalker, and is therefore not a valid target for Breya. Seems like a misplay. Edit: Seems like Breya was changed via ruling to allow her first ability (3 damage to target player) to also target planeswalkers. But it still should have been 3 damage, not 4.

[@abehasinski2622]

@@venomousfire225 exactly! interesting about the ruling change but when he said 4 damage I was just like ummm? where does it say 4 damage? haha I guess it was only at 2 loyalty so it would have worked, but along with being unaware of the rules change I was so confused.

[@RealBenda]

Windgrace and Obliterate. Yeeesh! I've got shivers...

[@demwombat7788]

in the decklist for Silas / Thrasios: bit.ly/S04E07-Silas-Thrasios is no Jace is the list incorrect?

[@gtfblade]

Misplay at 7:58. Breya's first artifact artifact sac ability can only deal damage to players.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It was errata'd to planeswalkers as well after dominaria.

[@hectormorales4090]

Dang! That's a GG right there mates!

[@Starcraftgamer97]

The madlad did it! The madlad did it!

[@thehermitdruid]

That win was B R U T A L holy fuck

[@Frosthief]

I would have loved to see what was going on with Ryan and Garret and the ten minute mark