Borg Lore : Destruction of Unimatrix Zero

[@JohnDiMarco]

It's very considerate of the Borg that, when they assimilate main characters, they don't cut off limbs or replace eyes.

[@LoreReloaded]

Right? That seems like a big deal

[@Mate397]

@Tonya Patrick Seven's eye was grown by the Doctor so they can do that

[@theunknownone5990]

I get the impression the Borg don't use any kind of anesthetic or painkiller when they do those things either.

[@alphax4785]

Pretty sure they amputated Picard's hand and forearm (or at the very least severely mangled it) in installing the implant on his arm. But as they showed in DS9 with Nog's leg, Starfleet medical science is definitely advanced enough to replace limbs. The only reason LaForge had his visor was because he was congenitally blind and Trek humanity still has a major hangup with genetic engineering thanks to Khan Noonien Singh and pals.

[@JohnDiMarco]

@@alphax4785 In Best of Both Worlds, I seem to recall that the Borg slid the prosthetic arm over Picard's arm without injuring it.

[@archades115]

Yeah... not going to lie... I love Voyager... but there are way too many gaping plot holes in between the thick bits of plot armor. As for Janeway's quick recovery, the answer is simple. "Coffee. The best organic stimulate. I beat the Borg with it."

[@jfarrar19]

Well of course, its Nebula Coffee, so its got to be better right?

[@hanzo8120]

The Borg can not assimilate those who has plot armor nanites in there body ;-)

[@notmegaming9038]

The Queen is an artificial individual comprised of everything the borg currently consider closest to perfection. This allows her to be all of the borg as well as "herself" at the same time.

[@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007]

It's lazy script or the execs really want to explains us why the borg is far worst than we think.

[@notmegaming9038]

bad writing aside, it would account for what we know about the queen.

[@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007]

Or it's a pesonnal interpretaion of what the borg might be from Janeway point of view.

[@centinela24542]

Not all the borg, just a hive, although she is in contact with the whole colective inteligence.

[@specialnewb9821]

Nobody puts Janeway in a corner! If Janeway was assimilated wouldn't the entire collective become coffee zombies? Dangerous....

[@shmee123ful]

The idea Janeway slowly began to become completely ruthless and would let worlds to save her crew that she's so consumed by her signal drive to get voyager home that she put her boot of the arse of time itself to get her way is interesting. It's only a pitty that the show writers didn't lean into it. As I've started to think that a good arc would have being have Janeway fall feather and feather from the ideals of star fleet while Chakotay becomes more moral. That he is the only one that can rane her in. Not that he starts drinking the star fleet cool aid but he eather retains his morality or becomes the more moral of he and Janeway.

[@mrbojangles8133]

could've been cool if Kathy becomes the new Queen

[@michael719]

As far as I'm concerned by the end of the series, Janeway was unhinged.

[@rurrjh]

Simon Tarses was supposed to be in this episode, but he was too busy spying for the Romulans

[@schwarzerritter5724]

I believe the Queen is just a glitch in the Collective caused when the Borg tried to make modifications. When Janeway destroyed the Unicomplex in Endgame, she actually fixed the mistake and the Borg are now like they where before.

[@Allhailthesith]

Interesting! Can you explain further?

[@schwarzerritter5724]

@@Allhailthesith The whole point of having a hive mind is so that the Borg do not need a leader. A single leader can make mistakes and the Queen has made mistakes. She is relative easy to outsmart. You could argue a specialized unit can think more creatively than the Collective, but the Borg can temporarily give a drone more autonomy if a task requires it, like they did with Locutus or Seven of Nine. So, at best, the Queen is useless. Furthermore, glitches in the Collective are not unprecedented, there is Unimatrix Zero for example.

[@FortoFight]

Insaneway destroyed the nanoprobes with black coffee.

[@texasabbott]

The Borg: We sent one cube for the first time to assimilate Earth. It was destroyed. We have tens of thousands of cubes. We will use math in order not repeat the same mistake for the second time: We will send one cube to assimilate Earth.

[@Falchion1984]

I'm honestly a bit iffy on that last point. Janeway and company were assimilated for a New York Minute whereas Seven was a drone ever since she was a little girl. Picard wasn't assimilated for all that long, but he recalled what he did, namely killing over 11,000 people, with traumatic clarity. Neither of those really apply to Janeway and company, and I'm reasonably sure that Tuvok succumbing was purely for suspense. And, even though this does allude to the hand-waving you mentioned earlier, the suppressant seemed to hold except in Tuvok's case, so the psychological effects might've been mitigated. You're not the only one to complain, however. I remember seeing a fanfic where, in a bit of role reversal, Seven had to help the trio readjust to being non-Borg. Maybe you'd like to see it and/or pin it as post-Unimatrix-Zero-maybe-done right? Just a thought.

[@venus_envy]

That sounds cool.

[@shibolinemress8913]

Maybe it was different for Janeway and Torres because they went in willingly and were never actually assimilated. While Tuvok also went willingly, he was briefly assimilated. Picard was in another league entirely because not only was he abducted and assimilated against his will, but as Locutus he destroyed nearly the entire Federation fleet and killed many thousands of people. Logically, he should have spent at least the entire 4th season recovering from that, and we'd have had a season with Riker in temporary command, which could have been quite good. Sadly, we didn't get real story arcs like that until DS9 and again in ENT S3.

[@charliedontsurf334]

I agree with the assimilated Janeway, Torres, and Tuvok’s ridiculously fast recovery. But as you said, this is Voyager and this is Janeway. The same Janeway that turned into a salamander along with Tom Paris and had salamander kids only to be changed back within what, 10 minutes with no ill effects.

[@venus_envy]

I think that episode has been expunged from the canon. It's so ridiculous, it's actually kind of great.

[@charliedontsurf334]

I know right! But Sfdebris’s review brought me to tears I laughed so hard.

[@ZontarDow]

The death of one to destroy a cube, that's a good exchange in wartime.

[@andrewthorne3570]

9:35 Doctor "I have managed to remove all the implants. While some lesser doctors would recommend bed rest I suggest that you just walk it off"

[@Phil-D83]

Lots of lots of armour around janeway, tukov, bellana, erc in that episode. Lol

[@theautisticveteran2466]

... the writing often fails the Borg in Voyager... It is a sad thing.

[@dragonweyr44]

I can't understand why the borg would care that a tiny, tiny fraction of the borg could escape to their own virtual world during their regeneration cycle. I mean, it doesn't affect their waking life any, they can't remember it while they're "awake" and it was shown that if they become free of thought while they were awake and away from the collective (survival instinct season 6:2), they couldn't care less How petty is the borg queen that she gives two Fs about Unimatrix Zero Akso I was always fascinated that Voyager found so many drones who were assimilated at the Battle of Wolf 359, a women. Riley Frasier in Unity season 3:17, Mirika Wilkarah, a Bajoran in Survival Instinct season 6:2 and Laura from Unimatrix Zero 1 & 2 season 6:26 and 7:1 That borg ship was destroyed so how did they end up all the way on the other side of the galaxy

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

dragonweyr44 For your first point it’s common in collectivist philosophies to be almost autistic about the disorder a few individuals could potentially bring. Because someone can do something is license enough for a collectivist to purge the heretical element even at the cost of thousands, because remember the individual life does not matter as long as the collective survives.

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

As for your second point it’s possible the cube launched probes or spheres that returned the new drones to the collective for study. It’s not unheard of for a Cube to do this.

[@dragonweyr44]

@@Shapes_Quality_Control That was my guess that the cube from Wolf 359 launched a ship back to the Delta Quadrant but for one thing, Enterprise D never said they detected a ship leaving the battlefield AND wouldn't the newly created drones stay there to assist in assimilating Earth rather than immediately heading "home" as soon as possible? We saw them assimilate a planet before on the Voyager episode Dark Frontier and none of the drones left that area until the entire planet's population was assimilated

[@dragonweyr44]

@@Shapes_Quality_Control The thing that concerns me about the first point is that we saw in the Voyager episode Collective that when a cube was disabled in the Voyager episode Collective, 5 drone children survivors of a disaster tried to contact the collective to "rescue" them but they were deemed irrelevant and left to fend for themselves while others were "rescued" when they sent a distress signal in Survival Instinct. These same drones, when they were separated from the collective by 7 of 9's actions were left to themselves. The same thing happens in Unity in which tens of thousands were freed from the collective So that theory is kind of hit or miss in my opinion

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

dragonweyr44 In regards to your first comment consider two things. First the distance from the collective. The later case involved an entire homogenous species population located in close proximity to Borg space so resources and risk required to secure an intact specimen is minimal compared to securing new specimens from a variety of species spread out across a vast swath of space with little more then a single cube a galaxy away to work with. As far as your second comment goes we don’t know the exact calculations or rationalizations that went into the collectives decisions in each of these instances but also consider that if the Borg are representative of collectivist regimes in real life then what the Trekkie might see as a narrative inconsistency is actually an honest look inside how these regimes function. I always likened the Borg to Communism. A group in search of the perfect utopia of harmonious forced equality that through its self assured moral superiority is blissfully unaware of its own inadequacies and frankly hypocrisies. The reason I see Voyager as superior in this regard to most of the spinoffs is that it remembered to try and stick true to the human themes. These creatures and aliens and technology are not ends unto themselves but devices with which to reflect the human condition.

[@nate5780]

Hah this Time you didnt get me ;) Off topic, i believe that the queen was created as a direct reaction of the experiences with locutus and the species, while at first it should help straighten up processes, her entety grew to powerfull and in the end "overthrew" the hivemind, forcing her will upon it. This could also explain the inconsistensy of her using "I" and "Us" with her strong tendencies of using the "I"

[@jacksonheathen2092]

I liked the Borg better before they had a queen. Having a hierarchical command structure sort of undermined the idea of a single hive mind.

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

Jackson Heathen Well think of it this way. The Borg Collective are Star Trek’s metaphor for the communist “utopia.” When has there ever been a communist or socialist government that did not, even contrary to stated principles, have a tyrant on high?

[@ryanhau1073]

They made the Borg Queen into a Bond Villain

[@wangbot47]

I want a new Star Trek Armada or Starfleet Command game. Disney and CBS will never be forgiven by me for dropping the ball so hard on video games for Star Wars and Star Trek.

[@bencoomer2000]

Bridge Commander. Prime timeline.

[@Plasmacore_V]

Great video. I'd love to see one on how Seven of Nine forcably reconnected her fellow drones to her own collective. She made them live a living hell and doomed them to it or to die.

[@marvenlunn6086]

They had to ruin the Borg after Q who because they were unbeatable lol seemed strange they access the collective through locutus why they just didn't beam him back to the cube seems strange too

[@mrmrsgamer6938]

the mini/ test collective idea i believe comes from how IT businesses work today, with seperate domains on the network. One is for testing prior to going on the Live environment.

[@leemorgan4037]

Mentally might take a while but if you remember it was the drug they took to prevent complete assimilation that made their recovery easier, however since Tuvoks body matabilized the drug differently and it wore off his assimilation was more complete therefore causing his recovery to be more difficult and time consuming

[@Valdrag]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but their recovery would have been lessened because they spent only hours as drones and their own systems might now have become dependent on the new ones. Picard only took so long to recover psychology because of what he did to the Federation.

[@TrekCannon]

A thought I had, the queen says she was always there to Locutus. So she predates him but what was Locutus created for? I submit that after Locutus was liberated from the collective, the collective had learned what it needed from Locutus concerning the need to represent itself through an individual. What better way than to create an avatar for the collective itself, represented as the queen. Just a thought. Great vid!

[@snyderm4n]

How dare you destroy my adolescent memories of Voyager with facts and logic.

[@sci-fisithdan2315]

@Lore Reloaded Tell me are you taking over Anti-trekker's Job in covering the Borg.

[@LoreReloaded]

Ive been doing borg since creation of my channel which predates his

[@jasonleslie203]

The queen altering the image of Janeway was supposed to be kind of an insult a mockery on the queens part. It would take time for the serum to wear off or for the board to figure out how to neutralize it. The drones are on a specific mission. It never really stated exactly how long they've been in sickbay or how long it took the doctor to remove all the tech. We assume hrs but we just dont know for certain. And it doesn't really say how long it took Picard to physically recover from his assimilation. It took seven of nine longer because she was a drone for over 17 years.

[@sirfriendzone1228]

Are you planning on redoing In the Pale Moonlight in the new format?

[@Starman_Dx]

Another glorious conquest for the Queen of time! All hail Queen Arachnia!

[@katakisLives]

I'm still not convinced by your assertions that Janeway's altering of the timeline was a bad thing! the Borg was crippled and the Federation received a huge technological boost, okay, maybe some people may have been erased from existence by the changes by surely in the grand scheme of things it was a worthwhile sacrifice, its hardly, also whose to say which timeline is the right one? remember that conversation Picard had with the time traveller in TNG? the temporal prime directive was not known of at this point but even that said Picard suggested it should be flouted if the need arose, he also literally said on Enterprise E that killing Borg drones was doing them a favour, from a certain point of view as drones they're already dead.

[@highlordlaughterofcanada8685]

Why do they always get their hair back so quickly...

[@katakisLives]

hair regeneration, i'm pretty sure its simple by the 24th century, which makes one therefore think maybe Picard likes being bald, its a choice.

[@highlordlaughterofcanada8685]

@@katakisLives That... actually makes a lot of sense.

[@krisgonynor689]

One question? How did Janeway know that the borg cubes that the Queen destroyed weren't just some holographic trick? Or even old recordings of Borg cubes being destroyed by whomever could destroy a cube? Was Janeway so connected to the hive mind that she could feel them die? That could explain why the Queen would waste both the drones and the cubes. Also, couldn't she just shut down the cube remotely? Then send in a different cube to clean out the infected drones or even all of them and save the cube? Were Borg Cubes so easy to make that she could just waist them like that?

[@adversHandle]

Yep totally agree I recently had minor surgery and they had Borg implants put in and taken out in a few days, it should have been at least a month to recover

[@kurtreznor]

Recover with a cup of tea? Well, there's the problem. You need coffee to recover from being a borg.

[@hiddentrailvideo6992]

9:56 Isn’t that just what happened to TV Picard but not to Movie Picard?

[@eliandervalderen5849]

Alana are simply pretending they're okay which explains the whole Captain the same way lying that you were saying earlier I never made it through the entirety of Voyager I kind of fell off when tubex became a thing

[@markpresslee687]

You make some really good pointing this and I've got to say that they don't seem fully assimilated as in when are the Borg assimilate people they remove one of the eyes and put on another device so they can see different spectrums stuff

[@udontneed2know801]

"Insaneway" cracked me up :D

[@leemorgan4037]

You forget that the Borg do not have names or numbers, just designations 7 of o 8 of 12 and each cube has a 7of 9 so would make it harder to single out a single individual

[@sphere3704]

But their matrix would be different. So can their objective. 7 of 9 tertiary adjunct of Unimatrix Zero One. 7 of 9 primary adjunct of trimatrix fourteen.

[@Iceflkn]

Sacrificing many to root out a few makes perfect sense since they considered those few a cancer. How much good flesh of the human body gets removed when dealing with cancer?

[@rofyle]

Another case of the writers teching the plot. Just like I sometimes can't make heads or tails of Star Trek's tech, sometimes I also can't make heads or tails of an episode's story.

[@DoctorX17]

Tuvok should have healed the fastest, those green-blooded Vulcans heal much faster and better than weakling humans and Klingon-human hybrids

[@ImmortalBurdensOfficialSite]

The board Queen was very cautious of Janeway because she knew how dangerous she was that's why she did some of the things she did with her instead of just assimilating her by the time you got to unimatrix zero how much damage has Voyager and Janeway done to the board Collective since they first came across them that's why the queen is very cautious

[@NapoleChan]

Puny-Matrix Zero fucks given regarding keeping the cannon TNG provided to Voyager about the Borg. They went from mega badass and scary to villain of the week...

[@gabelogan5877]

I'm really upset that there was no payoff to the Queen's "We'll see you soon Harry."threat.

[@TastyGamingQc]

The Borg Queen isn’t just an Avatar of the collective. "I bring order to chaos" Borg Queens are highly intelligent gifted woman from certain species who excel at multitasking and decision making. They retain some free will, at least enough to take decisions on the behalf of the entire collective. With little to no opposition. They are rarely or even never seen outside of Borg space and usually surrounded by an Armada of cubes and spheres. To me they sound a lot like a proxy server. They are there to maintain and facilitate the connection between different drones. This would explain how the Queen can shut off a drone from the collective. But also why if they go too far their connection get severed. She’s like a living wifi…maybe their pointy head is actually bc they use it like an antenna As for the other matter, I would put all the inefficient decisions made by the Queen on the account of politics and pride. Any Borg trying to assimilate you will say the same…they aren’t there to hurt you but to make you perfect. To add to their perfection. They believe they are doing what is right and at some level I believe sometimes they want to prove it. Especially to individuals who truly challenge that notion. Probably as a way to show others that THEY are right. Resistance is futile. Finally, idk how much canon it is but Seven of Nine in Star Trek Online created what is called "the cooperative" which is a voluntary and free collective for disconnected Borgs who still wish to be part of a hive mind. Bc as it was pointed out by many ppl throughout ST entire history. There is beauty in the voice of a billion minds united.

[@TheMalchikjae]

'Insaneway'... I'm crying 😂😂

[@leemorgan4037]

Maybe even with great power they lacked the ability to neutralize the suppresent as you said yourself they do not study and learn they assimilate

[@ImmortalBurdensOfficialSite]

You messed up toward the end when you said that Voyager fighting the Tactical Cube that it was upgraded with technology from the future that doesn't happen until later on at the end of the series not at the beginning of season 7

[@TheMalchikjae]

'Insaneway'... I'm dead 😂😂

[@JaguarCats]

yeah sadly, this is what happens when you over expose an enemy, even a fearsome one as the Borg. I mean yes in Star Trek Voyager, they didn't downplay them to such a threat level that Voyager could just take on a single Cube, heck most of the time they'd have to run from them or try to outwit them. But even there, so often the crew of Voyager seemed to have no problem cooking up a strategy to deal with them. Meanwhile! The Enterprise crew! The BEST of Starfleet struggled whenever they encountered them. On the other hand, yeah they were in Borg space, so encounters with them were unavoidable. But episodes concerning them could had been done better.

[@theimmortalsuperbeing549]

THE BORG VS THE YUUZANG VONG.

[@LoreReloaded]

#boom

[@freezetasticvoyage19]

Hell, make it a three way with the dominion. Or even a four way with the Ori.

[@Shadowrunner340]

@@freezetasticvoyage19 Well, that wouldn't be much of a fight. The Ori are omnipotent. How about the Magog?

[@varidian694]

I would really like to see the remnants of the borg rising again in star trek discovery... seeing as the crew wouldn't actually know anything about the borg it would be interesting to see them cope with the situation, especially because the borg would want their spore drive technology

[@seanm4095]

This is my own two sence but it seems odd to me that if the suppresent wore off it woukd occur with Tuvok. The Vulcans develop mental abilities at a young age. Velana or even Janeway I think would have a harder struggle maintaing there individuality than Tuvok!

[@freddybigs10]

Using the term "30th century" tech on voyager is a false equivalence. The borg could potentially have the equivalent of 40th or 50th century federation tech already.

[@NateTmi]

you say it is far from perfection like the borg is close to or perfect, when they are clearly working to become perfect & not there yet

[@UncleMikeDrop]

What 31st century tech did Voyager acquire? The Doctor's mobile emitter is from the 29th century, but I don't recall them having any tech from the 31st century. It is kinda strange that the rebel Borg wouldn't give Voyager at least SOME tech. They were given freedom. The least they could do is give them transwarp technology. As far as their recovery girls, I do believe you are underestimating the power of a good cup of tea lol.

[@overlycaffeinatedsquirrel779]

It makes more sense again. She likely is only alerted when there's a anomaly.

[@aperson22222]

Something weird going on with the thumbnail of this video. Queenie looks like a Martian of some sort.

[@gabegu5102]

As far as their recovery they where never really part of the collective but would had been cool if the stretched their recovery over one more episode like leave a few implants in them. But one thing I want to know how did they not end up wit occuler implants

[@ViroVV]

Genuinely enjoy these long national form series.

[@BadwolfGamer]

The Queen played on Janeway's emotions.....

[@realityisntachoice1483]

The borg dont have an incognito mode of assimilation

[@leemorgan4037]

Actually it could be said that true assimilation is different for each species as well as each individual and like medicine takes longer to work or has different effects on different people the same could be true for assimilated individuals and having assimilated so many peoples that the Collective is us to it sometimes taking longer to have full control over a person so it is not something they worry about when they don't have immediate access to a persons thoughts. remember when Picard was Assimilated and he had already threatened the enterprise on behalf of the Borg and identified himself as Locutus but yet after that when he is having more prosthetics added and his color goes white you see him shedding a tear which indicates that while the collective had control that he was not yet 100% assimilated. tell me what you think Lore Master

[@Emperor_HRE]

Voyager was a somewhat good show it would have been great if it didn't contradict itself all the time

[@megalopath]

Maybe they want to assimilate the Human race for our IT people, Test and QV regions exist for a reason after all!

[@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007]

The borg in Voyager is in fact how Janeway tell it to us. The show make the borg the way Janeway seen it. It's a interpretation of the borg by Janeway point of view.

[@stevenixx3595]

whats with the weird splits you put into the video with your logo?

[@LoreReloaded]

Bumps for commercials

[@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007]

Please can you talk about the ferengi.

[@kenjett2434]

I really dont have much in way of thoughts on the episode simply because this wasn't one of Voyager's better written. Voyager had some really well written episodes Unamatrix Zero was not one of them in my opinion. I believe this was an attempt to make a feature lenght film with only enough material for a one hour episode. Therefore alot of forced continuity issues and other problems was created in order to fill the time.

[@ericharris1853]

Umm woodnt she have all his Knowledge from when she could hear his thoughts so all the knowledge from all the way up to then sent all to the collective wood now know everything he know so all of starfleat up grades they have up to a point in starkest they now know about Hue and what he’s doing if starfleat know as well

[@ginowittgrebe]

The crew of Voyager had their (second?) chance to revolt against Janeway when entering Borg space. But they didn`t.

[@silkwesir1444]

When I clicked thumbs-up, it turned to 359.

[@TairnKA]

I wonder what the queen would look and act like if she was a guest, not an invader to Unimatrix Zero? ;-)

[@johngazda2374]

Ok RL silly thought from the ged perspective.If there are multiple universes/timelines couldn’t it be that the actions of janeway are not destroying a timeline but instead just spawning anoither from that point on?Jameway with the mid nineties visit to earth and Pacard’s many instances of multiple timelines she surely would know about (all good things,Kim’s rewrites due to bad matte,the one where word jumped universes,mirror universe, ect) couldn’t her actions in the last episode be more the mindset of knowing she’s adding to the universe and not subtracting?Couldnt the borg Queen, someone with much more knowledge about temporal thingamagiges be as linked in? Again just a He’s from the back rows of ST fandom.

[@johngazda2374]

Auto correction buchard most of this.

[@johngazda2374]

The proof of this is in the tng episode where Worf won/lost the tourney he was in.So many ships came into the same timeline that even the bajorens disengaged.And they fight Romulans with mir type ships.But it proves in ST that more than 2 timelines excist.

[@frictionRx5]

the Borg queen is a very mysterious and powerful entity whose mystery is only exceeded by her power

[@shibolinemress8913]

Love the music! 🖖😀

[@simonwinn8757]

If I was in charge of the Borg, I'll welcome the virus, because it points out the faulty drones and I can make a patch. On the grand scheme, Voyager had no hand to play and it was a truly pointless endeavor. Since this dream realm has been shown to the Borg, now it shouldn't be to hard to find them and rectify the problem.

[@LostMercenary99]

I detest this episode more than Threshold

[@28gatorgutz]

If someone was going to get into Star Trek, how should I watch the tv shows and movies nowadays to get a good understanding of the story.

[@LoreReloaded]

Let me ask this, have you seen the JJ verse movies? (Star trek into darkness and the like)

[@28gatorgutz]

@@LoreReloaded I saw the first one. I watched it with 100% understanding it was a remake. So consider me a clean slate.

[@LoreReloaded]

@@28gatorgutz Well the reason I ask is if you enjoyed it?

[@28gatorgutz]

@@LoreReloaded Yes I did.

[@LoreReloaded]

@@28gatorgutz Then I would suggest those.. You might consider doing the JJ Verse and then Discovery.. Those two are similar and you can understand the themes with out to much backstory. Assuming you want to go nostalgia trek - TOS is where the basis of it all comes from but its very campy and very 1960's.. not alot of people enjoy that. So I would suggest possibly starting with TNG. It'll take about 3 seasons, but then you'll be completely versed and it gets better with time. From TNG to DS9 to Voyager and then enterprise. And then circle back to discovery and kelvin.

[@perrycagle2009]

The music in the back ground is a bit much. Hard to concentrate on what your saying. Love it though

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

The reason Jane white looks like herself is because that is what she imagines herself to look like lock on The Matrix that's her self-image

[@Phil-D83]

Collective is a more like a mainframe, and not a super computer.

[@MagnusOZi]

did you say 31st century??? in the part on sphere & VOY vs Tactical Cube kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYnQcq15erGpetE

[@Midnight.Shadows]

I mean, if it were me, and I were in Janeway's place where the queen started to blow up Borg ships, I'd sit there and let her. After all, the Federation is AT WAR with the Borg, you can't help all of these people who were assimilated, you can't save them all and bring them back to individuality, so why not let the queen wipe out her own army? What about those she can't hear on Unimatrix 01? Does that mean if Janeway had held out eventually the queen would have blown up the unicomplex? I'm just saying, I'd let the borg destroy themselves self destructing entire ships.

[@EATHER2468]

The queen is a critical flaw and weakness in the collective .

[@Toskin]

What's that music from intro?

[@jasonfischer8946]

Do a series on the Hirogen holograms' pursuits for freedom.

[@AvatarRiku]

oh no please don’t kill more borg nooooooo

[@Marcus51090]

The thing that pissed me off why didn’t chakoty Delete janeway’s etc command codes ???? As the Borg used tuvoks to lower voyagers shields. Why!!!!!!!!! Would you keep there codes active Also the Borg couldn’t assimilate janeway fully as she was injected with a modified version of the nano virus, the Borg didn’t know how to over come it they where trying for weeks and the queen said to a drone at the very start of the episodes “it could take years to identify everyone” so she didn’t know how to “ neutralise” them Also I think you’re forgetting the queen activated the tactical cubes self destruct voy and the sphere didn’t destroy it

[@LoreReloaded]

I had to stop myself from including that nonsense

[@Marcus51090]

Lore Reloaded actually that’s a point you made about tuvok the virus wore off meaning somehow Vulcan physiology destroys it..... the queen should have jumped on this analysed his immunity! In order to replicate it and spread it through the others.

[@angryfatguy4503]

maybe they didnt wand to put mulgrew in tons of prothetics while shoving her in a phone booth. plus it was probably cheaper.

[@LoreReloaded]

Sure..but even if thats the reason.. you can write your way out of it as well

[@GingerBreaddMann]

You can say, " their deaths are on you." Or, "the blood is on your hands." Saying something doesn't make it so.

[@NineWorldsFromDrew]

When I saw this two-parter originally, I believe I’d have said it was one of the weakest, in all of VOY. I think much of what you mention here backs that up. I don’t take a very cynical view to Borg episodes in VOY, as many fans do. But this was one that threw everything at the wall - even literally getting the Delta Flyer destroyed - to achieve thematically and dramatically very little.

[@KatrinaLeFaye]

Humanity's assimilation seriously screwed up the borg in general. Way to many flaws added to the collective.

[@CandyKing2215]

AHAH the borg run ... oh wait

[@damenwhelan3236]

Psst... have they... erm... have they still got your family?...

[@LoreReloaded]

I miss them so much :(