Losing The Fifty - ZZZ Podcast Mid 1.2 Discussion With

[@tourist2222]

The worst part about Caesar is you can’t run her on two teams 😩

[@Qiqibean]

forreal the non-caesar half feels so bad once you've gotten used to having her.

[@Scummoner]

I run Qing yi on the other side and her BA3 loop has anti interrupt and dodge counters lead you back into BA3 so she's incredibly easy to play.

[@PhastosEnioyer]

How I feel about Jane… except Jane by herself can carry, Caesar carries the character that can’t carry lmao

[@sparkVII]

This haha insanely true, I'm just fortunate to have Seth pick up the slack xD

[@Law-of-EnTropy]

​@@PhastosEnioyer Jane doesn't really need Caesar. You can want her for Jane, but she doesn't need her. Seth is enough to compensate for the level of comfort that Caesar provides AND he gives Jane a more valuable stat for her kit. You can run both on Jane, but you're just gutting your clears on Shiyu if you do that. Caesar is better off on another team to make that other team significantly stronger

[@TheAlejitoman]

The idea of removing the flashes for parries would be a horrible idea, the game is simply not designed for that. Not only most enemies animations are too subdued or the attack starts outside screen and you cannot even see the moment the parry window opens; enemy attack animation also don't have enough frames between the windup and the strike itself, like for example dark souls where you can see the entire motion for the preparation and then strike in a continues motion, in ZZZ you have windups, but from there to the actual attack is lighting fast with almost no inbetween, except for the bigger boss monsters that have the entire set on motions and frames, so they feel more like Dark Souls bosses. There's also the problem with clarity, most times the damage numbers and effects obscure the enemies to the point that if it wasn't for the flashes you wouldn't even be able to see the enemy was moving.

[@TheRoleplayer40k]

100% agreed.

[@KetteiThe7th_]

Solid points, there’s definitely different ways they can play around and increase difficulty

[@Nesuniken]

To be fair, it is possible to remove the damage numbers. Less sure about effects, but I'm assuming they can at least be mitigated by lowering your graphics settings. You are right that the windups can be unclear regardless, though, especially considering the need to distinguish between attack which can and can't be parried.

[@Wyqkrn]

Considering you can disable flash warnings for Elites in Blitz right now, I disagree. Its only hard to tell vs unfamiliar enemies and trash mobs that have subdued animations

[@0fak148]

Its so easy to parry enemy without flash, you just need to fight them once or twice with flash on and you can easily no hit them without flash

[@SeaborneWhale]

Playstation is probably worth mentioning for all the Hoyo games too, but I remember ZZZ specifically being in the top 10 for at least a few months on at least canadian PSN

[@_JustCallMeBB_]

Assuming it was partly because of my comment on the last video, the cutting down on the long stretches of silence helps a lot, thanks! I think the conversation flows much better now and the listening experience is better overall. The indicator for who is speaking on the video is a nice addition too.

[@nhoktimothy]

Man!! ive been waiting for new ep for so longgggg

[@Pk_Chesire]

Ooh a new up and rising podcast, definitely wanna stick around for more~! Keep it up gang

[@GoldyEU]

Enjoyed the podcast. One thing I did wonder is are all the episodes gonna be mostly focused on just talking about gameplay/ character kits? We're already deep into 1.2 so I think I would've liked some story discussion, or some more general discussion about the patch too. Like character demo stuff, agent quest takes, exploration to combat commission ratio and even TVs if you were feeling spicy (rain commission takes anyone?). I guess I understand the focus seeing as all of you do mostly cover the character stuff, but I feel like there's a lot more that could be touched upon too.

[@KetteiThe7th_]

Sure we. An do some of that

[@Shanaha]

Oh trust me, I am just waiting to go on an absolute RANT about the lore behind us being called "Phaethon" and studying at "Helios" Academy, the boys are gonna get a whole Greek mythology lesson the moment lore is brought up lol

[@fabian.874]

Glad to see Shanaha is now a permanent co-host. You three make a fun and interesting team, looking forward to future episodes.

[@fabian.874]

@@judgeude Who? Shanaha? And when did he supposedly do that?

[@sparkVII]

A whole podcast for ZZZ i love it

[@Nemroider]

Thanks for the rundown guys - I am absolutely going to pull for Lighter even if he should be underwhelming... just an awesome dude

[@chocobo4646]

Something I thought about during Caesar's banner is that they released 2 "Fool"-proof characters in a row. Jane, aside from being disgustingly strong, has an extra dash, and now Caesar provides a shield with Maximum-Anti-Interrupt (and top-of-the-line support). They feel like the two you should've pulled for if you were at all struggling in any way with the gameplay itself. At least Caesar already does have a counter in game. Pulchra's guns in the ambush. She does so much damage, and it's a flurry, so she drains out Caesar's shield and basically ignores the shields hold-on effect. It's not a great counter, because the counterplay to these guns is to kill her before she does that attack... Surely she'll be this cool when I pull for her in patch 1.X. Anyway, I quite like Burnice's damage. Her+Piper+Lucy is by far my favorite team in the game (o7 Koleda , she remains top fave gameplay, but ain't on the teams). 2 Team-wide buffers and all 3 deal damage while Piper spins. It's so funny and fun. M6 was worth the 60 post-Burnice pulls. But, I do feel like Burnice has some clunk I'm not liking. Some animations felt a bit stuck when I was inputting something, she and Lucy make me wish we had (SOME) input storing since it's easy to hold a button too early and stand around like an idiot. Plus her hold-attack spin just doesn't bounce in the direction I hold. Wish I could position better when chaining into the Twin-Flamethrowers.

[@foreuutton7800]

Love the topics you guys covered! Looking forward to the next one!

[@PhastosEnioyer]

Burnice m1 feels incredible

[@MrDee001]

M2 is ecstasy!

[@Agentepeluche]

M3 is hot

[@sirrah2458]

@@MrDee001 m2 will be even better with Yanagi holy shit

[@PhastosEnioyer]

@@sirrah2458soooc m2 or engine?

[@sirrah2458]

@@PhastosEnioyer m2 is about a 25-30% dmg increase for Burnice iirc. It's data from Sweetily video that accounts for the teamwide dmg increase as if it was only Burnice if that makes sense. It's really strong . But wengine is usually a lot cheaper so it depends. Are you pulling Yanagi or not? I do feel like the extra energy from sig is real nice though and I'm a sucker for wengine effects so if I was you i'd pull engine and hope it's cheap. Then you can always get burnice m2 on a rerun if she's still really strong (which i think she will be), and you still like playing her.

[@unboundsoul3582]

I was eagerly waiting for this! Thanks guys for another episode!

[@Sockscalibur]

Section 6 Office Lady Shogun uses a Ya-Naginata (finger guns) :3 Also based Shanaha on Defense units, represent baby! (grats on the promotion! Welcome to the pod!)

[@Pk_Chesire]

What I like about lighter so far is that he dishes out fire and ice weakness which I feel is great for characters like sukoku and Ellen

[@elijahswanson619]

I play HSR, ZZZ,and Genshin which is my main game. ZZZ is new thus it is not as full of content and characters yet, I love it. I play everyday and started when Jane came out and I loved her play style so then I got Caesar because my second team is very easy to knock out and I like her and I also got lucky to get Burnice. I love ZZZ and all you channels are very good. I am not sure of rather Yanagi is good for my account or not but I will see because I love anomaly and the way it works. I am a chronic puller. Miyabi is coming so I might save for her

[@bazzard1349]

And then Miyabi is a crazy ice support character that also does insane burst damage and leave the field for the dps to finish the job

[@phatchz]

Miyabi / Ellen / Lycaon team!? (praying)

[@18wernher]

I enjoyed the podcast. Subscribing. I agree that they might counter Ceasar later on. Ceasar's ult does more daze on shielded enemies. New enemies might have a similar skill but with damage. Harumasa looks like he uses a bow with 2 built in wakizashis. It would be cool if he was a mid-ranged impact character. I'm am a mobile player. I love how zzz is great on mobile. Of coarse it's easier to play on PC and console but it's smooth on mobile. They recently added being able to switch to previous characters in battle on mobile and it works well enough. I play on a galaxy s10.

[@Ateaotoko]

the 1.2 update has made the game less smooth unfortunately, especially using lightning, fire and ether agents, game just crashes and my device is pretty good, galaxy tab s9

[@Geist312]

Man we need a S Rank support soon

[@ordo3297]

Putting the ars in arson is quite the quote to end on I'll say. Can't wait to hear the next one!

[@at_msk]

Miyabi, Ellen, Ceaser is a team that I HOPE goes absolutely insane

[@AMRIV]

I think it'd be funny if Miyabi ends up being a counterattack defence DPS. Perhaps with special bonuses for her defensive assist.

[@PhastosEnioyer]

Yea I have to run Swing jazz and energy regen because she’s my only second decent dps. Jane can carry one side of shiyu but Burnice needs to pick up the slack on the other side

[@aidenwrath1402]

Honestly I love the entire Sons of Calydon and it helps that they’re ultra strong too! 1.2 has been such a great update overall for QoL and characters so who knows what else they’ve got with 1.3 and beyond

[@PhastosEnioyer]

13:18 yes taxation is theft

[@pabloruiz821]

Some kind of survival mode would be neat, like the tower quest but with rewards from 1-100 rounds or something like that

[@mikeymishima7167]

This is exactly y I got Jane and Seth I saw the future she’s so GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kiteofdark]

i cannot even believe we are debating yanagi's attractiveness.

[@KetteiThe7th_]

I’m trying to defend her, a lot of people think she’s not

[@kiteofdark]

@@KetteiThe7th_ probably because she's a mom and weebs can't conceive of a woman that had a relationship as attractive

[@craz859]

@@kiteofdark u play this game too bro, u r the weeb. I think she's hot btw, think the OL look is VERY hot. Still less than Jane but still up there. It's not a weeb or not thing, people just like what they like.

[@PhastosEnioyer]

I heard that Yanagi can trigger disorder on her own, so she might be the stronger character but ofc she’s going to be great with every anomaly character

[@EVCypher]

On the discussion about synergy bonuses: Do you think (way later, like 2.0 or beyond) that Hoyo would ever "rework" or change a character's bonus requirements as a way to buff/nerf them?

[@KetteiThe7th_]

tbh idk, that would be a big change but maybe?

[@PhastosEnioyer]

Yes Caesar is so good

[@brahahaga]

She's great right now but my bet is that she will only get better as more anomaly characters release. I doubt they will release another sub dps anomaly character before another support or another main carry, so burnice stocks might only go up from here

[@cookiewithlove2081]

its also possible for them to release another burnice but different element as an A-rank but realistically only time will tell...

[@JabroniBoy]

Will this podcast be on Apple Podcasts?

[@Who-on9ln]

I honestly think Miyabi will likely be an ice crit dps. From what we've seen so far, character usually are made to work with the following ones: Zhu Yuan with Qingyi, Jane Doe with Caesar, Burnice with Yanagi and so on. So, we have Lighter, who doesn't seem to fit any specific squad or work with a specific character. He is a stunner, and as far as I'm concerned stunners don't really work with anomaly dps chars, moreover he buffs fire and ice, and we don't really have characters of such attributes, that Lighter could work especially well from the start. Lycaon is still the best variant for Ellen and I don't think they will be replacing him anytime soon, and as for Soldier 11, well, there is just no way Mihoyo would release an event stunner for a standard dps. So, who has an ice or fire attribute, is not yet in the game and is expected to become playable soon after lighter? I genuinely think that the chances of Miyabi being a classical dps are much higher than her being an another anomaly agent, which would also be fourth in a row after Jane, Burnice and Yanagi, that's another reason in favor of my point of view. Man, I really hope she comes out to be a crit dps, I'm not really a fan of anomaly gameplay, and have already prefarmed almost all the resources for her, even a pretty good set of drive disks. I even maxed out Sokaku for her! Well, anyways, thank you for this podcast, it was really interesting to hear your thoughts on the future of ZZZ! Hope there will be more of this!

[@SwitchbackCh]

Going off the rumours Harumasa might be an Electric Attacker, the Lighter synergy might be with him instead - which is double incentive to hook in all the husbando wanters, lol

[@V-vision]

I didn't originally plan to pull for Caesar beyond like 20-30, but I changed my philosophy on pulls mid-season. I agree with Kettei on the comfort. Even with those stronger enemies he mentioned that can break it in 2 hits, those 2 hits would normally be enough to kill a character and miss S-ranking the node

[@Zharque]

As an Ellen main I'm not bummed out about Miyabi powercreep, I'm bummed out because of elemental coverage. I'm stuck with A rank in the last ambush stage because both halfs are ice resistant and I don't have lycaon/Qingyi stunner to cheese the enemies, getting Miyabi would not help my account with that kind of scenario.

[@magiclover9346]

Im stuck at A because I have to play very defensively on the first side. Takes like two of those big hits and Xingyi the back bone of my Zhu team is taken out. Without stunning Zhus dps plummets. My Ellen with Ceasar no problems on the other side. It's the Ice res that's hurting me

[@thegamewoods8473]

Burnice is excellent for Anomaly teams and is the reason i got her. Ive set my account up nicely, an M1W1 Qingyi to pair with any crit dps that comes out, and M1W1 Burnice to pair with any Anomaly unit to come out. So for now i simply wait till i can continue filling in the missing elements. I need Fire crit, Ice Anomaly, and Ether for both.

[@fourayes1655]

The robot girl from the Idol faction is rumored to be ether anomaly.

[@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero]

Zhu Yuans passive triggers off any support btw.

[@KetteiThe7th_]

True

[@trinitok]

Question, did you guys use Recut for editing this video? I didn't hear any long silence/quiet moments compared to the past 2 videos. 🤔

[@KetteiThe7th_]

I use recut for all of my videos on my channel so I told them to just use it for the podcasts from now on too

[@galukisayaps182]

Lucy, in terms of gameplay support, feels great, and the m6 is even better, requires her way less on field time, besides her use, her apparience is also great, and her poses, when she throws the helpers, she looks like a model and rich girl with so much style, and also with so much class, she is amazing, i really like her.

[@MagmaSpacer]

The thing is though, Ellen gets a lot of crit damage for her ice based attacks right in her core passive? So to keep up with that Miyabi might actually have higher scaling. But that means Miyabi is less susceptible to diminishing returns from future buffers of crit or whatever they do in the future. Even if Miyabi and Ellen have different playstyles they still target the same element and you may not be given much reason to use Ellen anymore

[@tastykimchiOFDOOM]

I like how they call her in the song because it sounds like a pun on furnace.

[@holandazzz]

02:55 mentioned on the big W podcast i'm so happy

[@kivy3951]

Even if Miyabi is an ice anomaly, I don't think it's a problem having 4 anomaly almost back to back since ice anomaly seem to benefit the crit dps agent more than disorder. She can offer a new meta of pairing anomaly with another crit agent(which who know maybe Harumasa as an ATK agent). She could also synergize with Yanagi which believe to be disorder focus.

[@Geminosity]

In terms of the future, it bothers me that the current and foreseeable elemental distribution is totally all over the place. We've only got 2 Ether units and one was a limited that's already gone. Meanwhile Fire is currently sitting on 6 available with Lighter still to come as well.

[@gormleypeach5809]

I had a lot of luck with this banner. I wasn't gonna go for Burnice, although I did want her, and was gonna skip Yanagi so I can save for 2 updates worth of material for Lighter and go all out on him with with m1 or m2 and Wengine! But Burnice's banner was way to good to pass since I had M5 lucy and only needed a few copies each for Lucy/Nicole W's to finish them both. So while fishing for lucy I got Burnice and her W! Made up for my early bad luck with Ellen, needing to use everything i had to get her and losing my 50/50 on Qingyi. Now I can run my Jane/Burnice/Caesar team and feel much better on skipping Yanagi! CANT WAIT FOR LIGHTER! and I'm really hoping in the future we get more full thirens to play as! And if they do rerun Ellen I'm definitely gonna get her M2! Muyabi isn't a character I'm very interested in and unless she doing double the dmg of Ellen or is a suuuper crazy ice dps anomaly I'm planning to skip her.

[@honeyispure]

good sesh 👍

[@machijoten]

"Jack of all trades, master of none... But oftentimes better than a master of one" That original figure of speech represent Kettei's predicament of Caesar being better and more comfy to play than the best role specialist of a specific team. 😅

[@thegamingfiend5443]

i think 1.3 will be chapater 5 with yanagi and then lighter will have the agent story and 1.3 and 1.4 will be a part 1 and part 2 so a we will get chapter 5 and chapter 5.5 withing 1.3 and 1.4

[@PhastosEnioyer]

Tbf I agree with Shanahan… m6 Lucy and m6 Nicole are going to be two of the best supports(dps for waifu Lucy) it’s silly not to pull

[@KetteiThe7th_]

until u have to pull 200 times for a m6 lucy like i did and she was already m4 before i pulled LOL

[@nebulagray88]

This being my first time playing Shiyu cos I started late, I found Ambush to be MUCH more enjoyable than critical nodes. It actually felt like a test of skill, especially since I did the whole thing with 2 characters per side at level 50 (Jane+Seth and Caesar+Lucy). I really wish they add mode hard modes that are not time-gated. Edit: You guys should really link your individual channels in the description.

[@TheMoonestOne]

Currently, I'm thinking on skipping Lighter, but I may pull on his banner if Piper is there. I have almost four full teams without repeating any character. 1- Soldier 11, Ben, Lucy (or Koleda when I get her) 2- Qingyi, Nicole, Zhu Yuan 3- Burnice, Piper, Lucy 4- Anby, Corin, Rina I want Koleda, which is why I may skip Lighter, but if I get him while pulling for Piper C6, then there's that xD I only need one of the two for Soldier and then I'll be able to have four teams without repeating characters. I honestly wish there were more characters in the game, there are so few Rank A characters, honestly. The only Rank A that I may level up and didn't already is Soukaku (and only if I decide to get Miyabi).

[@vishnuanand9669]

Grace is so fun

[@Qiqibean]

I honestly expect Caesar and Lighter to work well together. I mean, she actually buffs the team's Daze (this got moved to her W-Engine but used to be part of her base kit). I think, to some degree, she was intended to be used on "no-support" teams, with her giving support levels of buffs herself and buffing Daze on top. For Soldier 11 specifically, both of them work well with her desire to be on-field at all times. Shield up, switch to Soldier and wait for Lighter's quick-assist, do his 5-6s thing, swap back to Soldier. You don't actually have to stun the enemy, but you'll get them close if you don't and Soldier can top it off while DPSing. And Soldier specifically will love the longer stun window as well since she can make full use of it. I really don't think there's a universe where Lucy outvalues either Caesar or Lighter for a slot on the team, even considering her shorter field time. For the sake of Soldier 11's Inferno Metal uptime as well, I'm fairly certain Lighter will build up Burn anomaly more than Lucy even if he's not built for it.

[@AngelTyraelGM]

i think its possible for Miyabi to be anomaly, everything fits the most this way, Yanagi - Miyabi all work togheter and we know they make factions fit together, since we have no Ice Anomaly this also fits, and this means Elen doesnt have any overlap, but y we dont know this is what fits the most in my brain, Burnice before this also makes it fit more logicaly, Lighter also adds Ice resistance reduction but this can be attack or anomaly but it is smart if they want to release Elen and Miyabi at the same time, it would mean he can go with either of them now.

[@wafaay7182]

About the rerun thing. Reruning does not take up a banner slot. When hoyo started doing reruns in HSR, they rerun them ALONGSIDE the two new limited characters. So you will get 4 banners per patch, 2 new limiteds and 2 reruns. Harumasa is definetly gonna be an S rank, the only debate is whether he's a support or an attack. I'm pretty sure Miyabi is gonna be an ice attacker because they went out of their way to make Lighter buff ice damage and his core activation condition is a sons of calydon character or an attack unit. I guess with this assumption I will lean towards Harumasa being our first limited S rank support, since I don't think they'r release two attack units in the same patch.

[@Agentepeluche]

Finally the loss 50 50 trio

[@galukisayaps182]

i'd actually preffer a miyabi anomaly, that would feel fun as its a way more on-field character, and also could also be stronger, but im with the guys on, she can be support, rank a, anything, im maining her :P

[@chocobox1571]

23:12 I dread that they will go genshin route and make enemies ignore shields and "force" to use healers instead.

[@ObliviousNaga]

Ben is so much fun to use (Obliterary Ben shoutout)

[@ravioliplaysgames2753]

44:52 I play ZZZ on mobile and it's a bit laggy but playing with a controller doesn't feel too bad. It's pretty decent overall

[@EVCypher]

To the idea at 57 minutes in, i do have fun being stupid and running no-DPS teams on the first one or two nodes of shiyu. Higher than that and having SOME dps starts to matter but just seth lucy rina has been hilarious for me to run.

[@SwitchbackCh]

32:12 Anyone who doesn't find Yanagi hot either isn't old enough, or don't know an office lady's appeal cause they're unemployed. :^) Also if any character is going to break all sales records, it'll be Miyabi, bar none. Gooners are dedicated but katana weebs may be even moreso!

[@asdf_asdf948]

Burnice pronounced "burn-ness" makes sense if you want to rhyme it with "furnace" or "burn it" like they did in the song, but it's definitely bur-niece

[@Law-of-EnTropy]

Burnice's name seems to be a deliberate choice to make it sound like "Burnace". It's prolly a pun, if anything. As for the pronunciation in the song, it's very common to "mispronounce" words in the lyrics so that it better fits the melody of the song. If the vocals sang "Burn It, Burnice" with proper pronunciation, it would sound a little too sharp. But none of this matters because we all know her real name is Arsonice White. Also unconfirmed, but i'm pretty sure Burnice "White" is subtle reference to Walter White from Breaking Bad

[@BahnBahnhee]

As a leg enjoyer, you people just don't see Yanagi the way my people do😞

[@PhastosEnioyer]

Yea pull rate vs revenue is a very important topic. *cough cough* Miyabi savers. Everything is gonna be okay. I have a feeling this months number is gonna be high

[@zoologistphysician]

In an era of Fortnight characters, Yanagi is here for those who deserve a better class of waifu. Props to @KetteiThe7th_‬ for defending Yanagi's design!

[@KetteiThe7th_]

amen

[@InfinityJKVX]

Im part of the team ive lost the 50/50 and 75/25 on burnice and her weapon :]

[@juggernaut6666]

I did 70 W engine banner pulls. Got burnices S rank on the first 10 pull. Out of those 70 i got 11 nicole engines 0 lucy engines. Those A ranks can be very elusive.

[@Phazzthom]

52:00 i could have m13 Nicole by now and am still sitting in m1 Lucy 😀

[@MrUniverse14]

1:07:40 I guess Rina doesn't exist. 😭The fact that Rina isn't mentioned once in this video kind of shows how sad of a state she is in right now. Even when Grace popped up in the team-building section they mentioned Lucy instead. Really wish the devs would give my girl some love in the future by giving Rina a buff or something.

[@KetteiThe7th_]

rina isnt bad, i have a whole video dedicated to her on my channel and its one of my more succesful vids. tbh with you we recorded this at 3 am my time so i was chugging coffee to stay awake my mind wasnt all there LOL

[@MrUniverse14]

​@@KetteiThe7th_ It's funny that you said that because, in GoldDemon's recent tier list video, he made a similar statement: "Rina isn't that bad; in fact, she's good; it's just that everyone else is better than her." I watched both videos and felt that GoldDemon made a better argument in his video. He had reasons, statistics, and counterarguments to back up his claim in an extensive half-hour video. However, in his recent tier list video, he did mention Rina's clear times in Shiyu but he still thinks that she doesn't perform at the same level as everyone else. Rina is my favorite character except I at least admit that she's not that good. I think it would be very interesting if you guys could bring GoldDemon into your podcast as he has a lot of knowledge and insight about the game.

[@KetteiThe7th_]

@@MrUniverse14sure, I’ll see if I can reach out to him, and also I don’t think Rina is top tier she’s just underrated is all

[@minyaw1234]

I want Miyabi to be Anomaly. And the new Idol girl to be Ether anomaly. I just can slot them into my Burnice/Caesar team and not think about anything else. I only would need another anomaly off fielder that is not fire with a good support and an anomaly fire on fielder and I would have 2 teams for every element with only 9 characters.

[@jordanrichardson2367]

This doesn’t have anything to do with me losing the 50/50 but I hate I couldn’t get Caesar too because I just didn’t have enough polychrome

[@galukisayaps182]

really good moment, i lost the 50 to burnice, which in this case made me happy xD

[@Fang1st]

Question, I'm new'ish' to the game, and I know you can get A-rank characters just by playing the game, but I don't know when or how. Is there any specific way you have to unlock them, like Soukaku or Seth needing a quest to complete? Or will it just come up naturally in the story mode?

[@V-vision]

TLDR- You'll rarely be given something from the story and the ability to target specific ones is limited. Basically, use those grey tapes you get and hope for the best. You get tapes from various pieces of content. It'd be quicker to look those up if you're not familiar Long Version- Usually you get A-ranks from the grey Master Tapes you'll get from playing various pieces of content. You use them to do random draws where you might get them and if you haven't gotten one after 9 pulls on your 10th you are guaranteed an A-ranks (there's a chance this might be a weapon). Those A-ranks will be entirely random. If you want to target them, the best way is to look at which ones are featured in the current patch. For example, if you use Encrypted Master Tapes to get Burnice, any time that you get an A-rank (basically the same system I just described) you have a 50% chance to get one of the featured A-ranks. Other than that, if you look at the signal shop, there's a currency you can save up to get 1 of a certain character, but that's also on rotation.

[@Fang1st]

@@V-vision Cool, thanks.

[@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero]

Corin comes from Chapter 1 I think?, Ben from Chapter 2, Lucy from Chapter 4. and somewhere along the line you get a free Soukaku. All of these one copy outside of the tapes

[@Fang1st]

@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero okay thanks, so just those four characters, the rest are gacha rolls.

[@rek8193]

Tell you right now, I passed this thumbnail five times before clocking it because it looks like every other generic zzz video and not a podcast.

[@TerrorbyteTC]

Lighter buffs Ice damage apparently. Miyabi is Ice, soooooooooo I reckon Lighter into Miyabi into the other S6 guy (cant remember his name).

[@slegendlightning7103]

How dare you defile Harumasa’s name

[@gageolesen5729]

Miyabi gonna be burst anomaly

[@djmanoedits8683]

Not a free to play player but I haven't spent too much. In terms of team comp Burnice is a welcomed addition to my Billy and Nicole set up. I have koleda but she doesn't feel as impactful and as fun as Burnice.

[@Vaslof]

I thought the gacha earning charts were made-up bs. E: Okay good this was addressed in the podcast.

[@wafaay7182]

When it comes to gender ratios for players, yeah, I'm pretty sure that zzz is the most unbalanced in having mainly guys playing it when comparing the latest 3 hoyo games. Genshin and HSR had both male and female characters running in their first limited banners which helped them get a diverse audience, zzz came out with a single S rank male character on release and 6 (and with yanagi 7) female banners in a row. I'd say around the end of 1.0 and beginning 1.1 was when I saw a lot of people talking about how they'r dropping the game because of the lack of male characters. Zzz chose to limit themselves and present themselves as a waifu collector game, which alienated a good portion of the initial fanbase and basically condemned the game to never reach the same levels of popularity as genshin or Hsr unless they make a good shift by 2.0 . The amount of small looking characters also was off putting to some people since they know the gacha space sexualizes all characters. If you look at genshin and Hsr, they have a notably lower amount of child looking characters, unlike zzz who's cast is litteraly a THIRD child looking characters. You gotta realise that there are more small looking girls in the game than there are male characters, which if you check reddit has resulted in attracting a certain amount of lolicons towards the game (and that aspect is only gonna become more obvious after sector 6 because the idol faction is the one coming after).

[@OhNoseNotAgainn]

The guy that keeps giggling and talking through his laughter is annoying, cant even understand what hes trying to say half the time due to him laughing while trying to speak.

[@60sto80s2]

Burn-ece

[@magiclover9346]

Was nah bro im skipping Burnice. Watched her trailer, I'm no longer skipping Burnice. Used all my searches on Ceasar. Prayed for a 50/50 win on Burnice. Clinched in the last 3 days of her banner. Don't have the resources to build her because im still working on good gear for Zhu and Ellen. She's next. I'll have my Ellen Ceasar, Suakaka team. Zhu Xingyi, Nicole team. Grace, Burnice, Lucy. I might build Piper too, covering physical. That will cover all the elements. Poor Nekomata lost two 50/50s to her. I have no desire to build her. I'm a daily login, bp player. On pulling for a on banner a rank agent it doesnt feel all that bad. Every time I pull on a banner, I end up m6 one of the on banner a ranks. Now I only have one A rank agent not m6. Seth because I didn't pull on Janes banner.

[@lownie3993]

please get new background gameplay 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@MHKuma]

Aside from already having the full ice team, I don’t really get the hype for Miyabi tbh

[@Sashashka]

It kinda sucks that you guys can’t/don’t want to talk about leaks although as far as I know Kettei & ALG aren’t even interested in being in the creator server. It would make the podcast a lot more interesting but I also understand that you want to have guests like Shanaha more often on the podcast.

[@KetteiThe7th_]

ALG just got back with the hoyocreators, and shanaha is too, im the only one who could talk leaks without getting in trouble but if im the only one then theres no point to do it anyways

[@TheRoleplayer40k]

Yanagi is pretty basic tho, so an easy skip for me. I'm here for the Outlandish anime designs, Ellen, Jane, Caesar (Xilonen in Genshin)

[@fourayes1655]

Office ladies are hot and her ult animation is pretty cool. Still skipping her and Miyabi for the idol characters tho.

[@galukisayaps182]

wth bro, Yanagi is not attractive, she is amazing and her apparience is actually why im going for her, she is a priority even over burnice, i want her since 1.1 :P

[@at_msk]

I am an Anomaly simp...

[@PhastosEnioyer]

Doing HIA is nice on the phone, anything else is sus

[@markmarkmark08]

🫡🫡🫡

[@thechurchstore2386]

This went from a gatcha review pod to a, ‘I think yanagi is attractive and you should too’ pod…I just wanna learn about the game bros..

[@Secret123890]

Mid? U mid.

[@plvto1]

what

[@V-vision]

Idk if that was a joke, but I'm pretty sure they just meant it's in the middle of patch 1.2. They weren't insulting the patch