Lost Media in Sonic the Hedgehog

[@mariovideos491]

damnn i was quick! sonic's trash tho

[@ZamboniPony]

fr

[@starwarsmicroseries]

Facts

[@spimbles]

so real

[@bluebellsforever]

I kinda agree The only good sonic content is Archie

[@samuunn]

R al

[@honeybadgerzombie1159]

Seeing SA1 gameplay where the checkpoints get skipped entirely is honestly so fucking stressful 💀

[@honkerdoodles2764]

that's just how you play when you're going for A-ranks (score resets when you die so its kinda better not to get them)

[@mine4114-rc7nu]

​@@honkerdoodles2764there was no ranking system in SA1 tho

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

I got one interesting bit of Sonic lost media, and that would be the missing complete cut of the Saturday Morning series’ pilot. Originally, the pilot was intended to be a half-hour TV special that would’ve aired on ABC, but for whatever reason, it ended up getting scrapped and the special got recut into a shorted 24 minute episode for the 1st season finale. The original intro animation was entirely different and all that can be found of its existence are bit of concept art, storyboards, animation cells, scripts, and a shoddy VHS recording of the very ending filmed at a game expo in the ‘90s.

[@mojojojox5043]

One piece of lost Sonic media I find really interesting that's rarely mentioned are the Motorola exclusive Sonic games. There's not a lot of info on them but I find it very fascinating that Sega made a deal with Motorola to make games exclusive to their early phones.

[@jcz_m]

Crazy that the Riders PSP port assets show it being called Extreme! Seems to confirm without a doubt that they adapted the concept from the skateboarding pitch from the Heroes CG house. Great video mate

[@Cifesk]

GBA 😅 but yeah, much like Riders itself it seems they used the skateboarding game as inspiration, it's a neat reference to the canceled game (if the name was on purpose)

[@jcz_m]

@@Cifesk Hahaha sorry I was literally just about to edit that, my mistake!

[@memelord111alt]

I know a certain game named sonic eXtreme

[@spongebobfan78]

While not games, most of the Sonic manga are definitely lost.

[@begottenbaker]

People who call games like 06 and Boom the worst games of all time clearly never played old-school shovelware games. Especially NES ones, those were atrocious

[@SheepsWithFangs]

My favorite technically doesn't count. Sonic x-treme. I absolutely love everything about it, not a single thing with it I dislike. It was the first piece of lost media I remember learning about actually! It looks so fun, I love the music, the level design is so boldly unique. Everything is just amazing. I'll actually be owning a piece of lost sonic media soon! A plush of my main man knuckles finally resurfaced after years of being lost and I'll be purchasing it!

[@myrmeko]

10:58 If i remember correctly, collision data was found in the Autodemo. Not usable, but we're able to see the overall shape of the room.

[@safebox36]

The Cutting Room Floor and Unseen64 are worth taking a look at as well for lost / scrapped Sonic content. LMW is good, but I've noticed a lot of found media takes months or years before anyone updates the respective pages (see the cancelled Lego Island sequel that was finally unearthed in 2021 but still marked as "lost").

[@40kkidlock18]

17:49 not only that but the early soleanna had real time lighting and more objects casted shadows it just looked graphically better all around and I have no idea why the final games hub was so downgraded lol

[@glowdonk]

Deadlines

[@40kkidlock18]

@@glowdonk no thats not even an excuse this time...I think it was already done why didn't they just put it into the game?

[@ronjobimusic]

My guess is that this version featuring real time lighting was very unstable and Sonic Team may not have had time to optimise it, so instead they just removed the real time lighting

[@40kkidlock18]

@@ronjobimusic by the way you can see it in the trailers it shows up for a couple seconds if you wanna go see it

[@sackydzNG]

@40kkidlock18 considering how unoptimised retail 06 was, I'm pretty sure the graphical fidelity was greatly reduced to make it a bit more playable.

[@DeadPlayin]

lost media is one of my favorite topics on youtube, and i’m glad that you’re covering one of my favorite video game series, sonic 🙏 i always enjoy your videos, and i appreciate the hard work you put into them 🫡

[@yousefslimani99]

Yep same here

[@aortaplatinum]

10:58 if I had a nickel for every lost prototype NiGHTS stage involving a spiral, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it’s more money than Sonic BOOM made.

[@TheNutman22]

💀💀

[@HEX_VENTURE]

What's the second nickel?

[@HEX_VENTURE]

@NumberOneRated1997 wow it the real Spamton G Spamton!

[@HEX_VENTURE]

@NumberOneRated1997 Do you any tips for investing my Kromer?

[@aortaplatinum]

@@HEX_VENTURE The original NiGHTS into Dreams for SEGA Saturn had a scrapped final level for Claris, different from the final version where both Claris and Elliot just do the same Twin Seeds. It was titled CLARIS_SPIRAL in the files and is believed to be where you were to fight the lost boss Selph/Self.

[@Silence-qm3ku]

The Archie comics legal department sure are bunch of clowns. It's sad we've lost pre-genesis wave continuity do to Penders' lawsuit but it's also a karmic justice for Archie who mistreated their creators for decades. Serves them right. Penders is a strange kinda creepy dude but damn, what a legend in legal space.

[@SaddieMoon]

28:11 I think the Mystic Cave thing was only done just to include the level in the mobile version. It was not intended to be how you enter the level.

[@allohtoffbaqphat4547]

3:07 I can confirm Bare Knuckle Grind was totally released. The game came on cd roms sold with Tec Deck figures at Dollar General

[@yousefslimani99]

Yo thanks for keep supporting my fav video game character of all time, keep up the good work for more sonic contents 👍🏻

[@Talxic]

the saturn era of sonic was soooo good man, i wish it was longer, even if dreamcast games like sa1 or 2 wouldn't exist, we could have gotten a banger rpg or 3d sonic game

[@Quartzer.]

Some I find interesting are CCXP 2018 trailer for the Sonic movie which seems to have showed an earlier Sonic then the early design we know, the conplete version of the AOSTH pilot, the early SatAM intro, and the early version of Super Sonic Racing shown in some Sonic R trailers

[@seragaki]

This is so good. I’m so fascinated by the production process and everything else that goes on behind the scenes in sonic games. Even just random shit in the files is interesting to me. I really hope you continue making these types of Sonic videos, because I really do look forward to these. I would be hella interested in another in-depth look into Sonic 06 someday too. I loved your other video and am very curious if there is more to it. Even if just random oddities with the game honestly, weird glitches and such. -As a note on oddities - a couple extremely minor things I haven’t seen mentioned for 06 is in Dusty Desert, in the far right corner of the room with sand waves, the lighting for the whole room goes bright green. But only in one spot, if you move away a couple steps it’s back to normal. In another area you can walk on the wall as if it was the floor all the way to the ceiling. And in (multiplayer mode at least) Crisis City, there’s a building you can glitch around with the purple gem that has a whole side of it blank and untextured. They’re stupidly small errors in the grand scheme but I remember being excited to find those myself as a kid, and if you could ever find a use for that I could probably get footage of them. Dunno if you’ll read this but either way, I love your videos because they scratch an itch in my brain that’s just super intrigued by random game quirks. Thank you for putting so much effort into these videos :)

[@maximrush]

Another example of lost Sonic media was the unused vocal tracks from 2005's Shadow the Hedgehog: Broken by Sins of a Divine Mother All of Me by Sins of a Divine Mother Who I Am by Magna-Fi

[@theangrycolossal]

To my understanding, "Who I Am" wasn't actually 'lost'. It was originally produced for the game but Magna-fi asked that it not be used because they wanted to release it on one of their own albums instead, so it ended up there rather than in the game

[@battle_plays]

I remember tweeting about the lost ova dubs, but apparently the entire cantonese dub was found in october but I didn't know that when I made the tweet. The korean dub has some footage but the arabic dub might not even exist.

[@Cifesk]

Oh shit that's awesome. In a few years we might have all the versions of the OVA recovered 😅

[@ettiSurreal]

Some sonic lost media that not many people will care about is a large part of the Sonic X Polish Dub past Season 1 (and probably some other dubs). Especially since TMS takes down the entire dub reuploads on youtube.

[@RawrX32009]

Same with Hebrew dub

[@yaysuu]

same with the arabic dub of the sonic ova

[@yuri_fudoshiki07]

Portuguese dub for season 3 was lost media for more than a decade until Amazon Prime go the rights to Sonic X and released with the OG dub

[@inktendo]

19:20 In the early days of DS emulation when there were just a few dump roms online on some very sketchy websites, I vividly remember trying to download Sonic DS from one but the download link was always broken. With it there was also a single high quality screenshot of the game but I could never get it myself. I was in my late childhood years by then, so my memory is not exactly trustworthy. But I could swear to god it existed at some point, even if fabricated! Thanks for the great video!

[@clode469]

Sonic Rivals be like: oh yes, lets take this shot of a dying Maria and make a card out of it lmao

[@zekromfan1]

I’ve been waiting for this video since you mentioned it in the community post, I don’t have time right now to watch it, but I’ll definitely be sure to later when I do!

[@Theneptuno]

Your telling me that sonic cafe actually had a chao app back in the day

[@CapnJigglypuff]

"A wildcat named Tiara..." YOU KNOW HER FULL NAME, SAY IT

[@METAL_HARBOR]

just got introduced to your channel, and your videos are so so good!! love to see sonic explored more, especially with regard to topics like lost media :) keep up the great work!!

[@Cifesk]

tysm!

[@omegaflowey9932]

26:20 I hope sega finds it one day.

[@omegaflowey9932]

30:21 The sprites are similar to sonic spinball and sally also shows up in sonic spinball.

[@glitchydorime]

Still crazy to me that a bunch of your videos have a lot of less views then others lost sonic media that may have misinformation or just not the entire package Your videos and the amount of work and research you do in each one of them is amazing, keep going strong!

[@Alexifeu]

i saw so many videos about this topic. cant wait to watch yet another.

[@ViewpointProd]

9:53 is false, these where NOT designed for SA1 not have any relation to its development, i belive these where by one of the members of Sonic team, his spider girl character was given a render and added as an easter egg.

[@NuggetPudding]

14:50 I don't know why the idea of sonic saying "piss" sounds so funny to me

[@skelswap]

love the way you edited the thumbnail, it’s so cool

[@wavelengthrecords-1]

i agree!

[@PilaCiu]

26:00 They were buildings :) 27:38 It was taken from enemy sprite for the zone

[@SolarisFox_svp]

Man, there's something about lost media/prototype stuff that tickls me

[@corleone7918]

you’re so underappreciated on here - your videos are excellent!!!

[@Bendytube72]

Damn. That TGS demo really makes me think that maybe... just maybe.. it was supposed to be Sonic Adventure 3.

[@aluzion2616]

Thanks for this video man 🎉❤

[@Itz_YoshiMelon]

Another amazing video, as always! Great work Cif!

[@Cifesk]

Thank you 🙏

[@Tromite]

Very nice! Still lots of sonic media to uncover then. One honourable mention would go to the English localisations of the Segasonic arcade games, particularly Segasonic the Hedgehog 1993. I think someone might have found a dump for this.

[@fastfox57]

Something I don't think anyone mentioned here was that Sonic DS' gameplay was brought over to another game at some point, that game being Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games for the DS with the Meter Dash/Dream Race subgames

[@Mapachedepan]

I wonder if the sonic 1 flip phone port is somewhat rare, i used to play that thing a lot on a phone my mother brought from Europe

[@nightlydata2181]

I'd love for the scrapped concepts to be used for a full classic sonic game (I'm aware some have like in mania & supersters).I'd also love that full maria death animation lol. he full ova ost is really nice & incredibly nostalgic. I wish we'd get another thing like it. I've known most of this stuff for years but it's great to have the bulk in 1 concise place anyone can C. If u don't have other ideas for a time u could add extra parts to this & make it a mini series lol

[@GUNUFofficial]

Maria 360 noscope montage.

[@Nister.N]

Bro I swear you literally have the best thumbnails on the platform

[@Cifesk]

Tysm :)

[@ChrisRoblero-o5c]

Actually the mountain on the sonic 1 early beta was reused for the background environment from act 2’s green hill zone in Sonic mania.

[@coyotix]

Wonder if we ever will get a Silver game? He's a pretty popular character within the fanbase, but isn't that well known outside of it unlike Shadow, who got his own game and will get his own Generations story in a few months. Silver's character isn't explored that deeply- all we really know about his past is the bit of info we got in 06, which was _18 years ago._ IDW is bringing him back into the spotlight, but it's more like the light hit him when he stood next to the Diamond Cutters, who objectively get more spotlight in the comic's storyline than he is. I think the last time we got an exploration of his character excluding his past was 2022 with the IDW annual, where he vented his fears and stress to Espio. Personally I think the only reason he was able to save the world from the Metal Virus with Sonic by going super was just because Shadow had already been infected, so the writers couldn't use him instead. Silver is a very deep character, but Sega is refusing to explore it. I hope he gets a game, or at least some story more focused on him. More backstory, more exploration of his character. Somehow we're getting essentially Shadow the Hedgehog 2 BEFORE a Silver game. I love Shadow too, but there's so much untapped potential with Silver that Sega could be using.

[@lynxzanimated]

I love these types of videos!!!

[@mr.thefrog5356]

Another great video!

[@ChloeVFX]

dude why do you not have more subscribers ?!!?!!!?!?!?1/1/?!?!?!/1/1/1? Your videos are so high quality, and you deserve a lot more attention for the hard work and soul you're putting into these videos of yours !! :O

[@Eepop_stuffs]

18:24 HE WAS IN MPGIS???? WHAT?????😭😭😭

[@TSMSnation]

9:49 thats actually fing crazy WHAT

[@DeeJamari]

11:00 I’ve NEVER heard Casinopolis pronounced like that 🤯 Do we have another Hydrocity situation?

[@char-scratch]

9:02 Um aktualy that pic is from when the game was moved to the dreamcast, as sonic's model is noticeably higher-poly

[@brodieshotwheelssonicandfa8020]

You should of covered the lost prototype version of super sonic racing.

[@MrDudeFace]

10:03 The picture in the top right kinda reminds me of the Galaxian Boss and idk why

[@EmeraldAerith]

16:19 I think you're exaggerating here. Sure it's bad, I don't think people thought it was Superman 64 or Atari E.T levels of bad.

[@RawrX32009]

Nope, it was great

[@Jelly_shy_guy_man]

HUMAN GENIOIDE 28:38

[@derrick4804]

The thumbnail looks great! Microphone quality, music, sound levels, and editing all pretty good. Also there's not a lot of linger between words or sentences so it flows nicely. Keep up the great work!

[@simtek3475]

Another Cifesk banger

[@Mario_Sonic_Kirby_Editor]

I found a piece of 2000s lost media of Sonic

[@Nyaalexi]

I've been a fan of Sonic for practically my whole life. I have a weird thing for this funny spiny boi. Yeah he's had a lot of troubles, but over the years he's also had a lot of good stuff.

[@tessfabled4115]

18:24 WAIT WHAT HE'S SILVER AND FUCKING TANNER FROM MPGIS?!

[@JetFireHawk]

your such an underrated youtuber

[@Alexifeu]

My Xbox copy of Sadow the Hedgehog always crashes. sometimes it does not crash. Nomrally that would not be much of an issue Id just play trough the game hoping it wont crash again but since there are unskipeable cutscenes, I do not have the will power to play trough it sadly. Im watching these cutscenes over and over and over again I cannot handle it no more. Really sad.

[@thevioletskull8158]

Good video,I'm subbed now

[@SaddieMoon]

34:39 Wow, treat Sonic as an object will ya? /j

[@bluebellsforever]

I care a lot about the Archie comics and you kinda messed up ! Ken Penders left on his own and didn't get fired. He left cuz sega wanted him to adapt the shadow game but didn't tell him anything about the story, so he had to come up with something at the last minute. It was still a fun story tho

[@NewportBox100s]

Subscribed!

[@SaddieMoon]

13:38 That looks a lot like western Sonic.

[@مشفارس]

Arabic dubbing sounds interesting ‏‪33:34‬‏

[@chillyz0]

I hear there was a sonic unleashed mobile version released and it played like the DS versions

[@Traemonzoboi]

Sonic frontiers is the biggest one with lost media (or beta)

[@SaddieMoon]

2:16 I’m so confused, why do they have the same name if they mean different things? Edit: Oh I see. Looking through the rest of the video says uncovered media. Which makes so much more sense. Must of just been a mistake while making the video. It’s Recovered Sonic media & Re-covered Sonic media. Because of the Sonic Extremes.

[@kanoro5451]

1:37 atarraxa Cifesk 😣😖😖

[@chaosspider5765]

20:02 I belive this cshot was first used in the saturn version of 3d blast's special stages.

[@levilurgy]

I have a lot of lost media i created from KZbin 1.0... no one will care tho... The Legend of the Giberish Elf... I'm in the depths of the youtube lost media iceberg. hahaha

[@alfac6847]

does ur friends store ship to other countries? ur y2kish shirt designs go extremely hard

[@filedotnix]

sonic is... LOST MEDIA????

[@Sonicgottagofast-h8w]

its sad that the 43K people who watched this didnt care to sub.

[@fares_gamer603]

wait what the ova had an arabic dub?????

[@rinkunation]

29:55 also, an addition, there’s a leaked image of r2’s boss and 2 enemies :D

[@zachpro5475]

0:00 what’s that song

[@Cifesk]

It's in the description

[@oceanman6973]

What’s the song in the intro?

[@slimeyartz15]

25:32 sigma..

[@DS811]

25:33 sigma ‼️‼️

[@lerona.martyr3811]

yo what was that music in the intro?????

[@Cifesk]

It's in the description

[@cyrilfrost]

TOO MANY "PRETTY"! Try to reduce repetition of words in the script. Great video though

[@Cifesk]

Wait until you see how many times I write "really"

[@Chipstopher]

You really need to make your 'un' in unrecovered a lot more prominent and audible because most of the time you say it, it just sounds like your saying recovered without the 'un' which was very confusing in the part where you talk about recovered vs unrecovered since it sounds like you're saying the same word over and over.

[@petergriffinsbrother2499]

The lost media of ugly sonics early footage before the trailer which was shown at an event would be cool to see

[@JuliaMercer-pq8pt]

Can you switch it up and do a Mario Video? I would like if you did lost media for Mario instead. But this video is amazing, like all of your videos!

[@UnoriginalBro]

bem fixe

[@itsjustalter]

tu e brasileiro?

[@Cifesk]

Não

[@itsjustalter]

@@Cifesk KKKKKKKKKKK não é possível, curto muito teu canal!

[@Cifesk]

@@itsjustalter obrigado mas nao sou brasileiro sou portugues

[@itsjustalter]

@@Cifesk Ahhh entendi, perdão, mas nunca imginei que tu fosse português

[@Ashley3AndKnuckles]

you showed some websites where you can download roms so basically you just demonstrated how to commit piracy

[@Cifesk]

Can't believe I taught an entire audience how to put the word "download" after a game's name. My bad og

[@aagd6491]

third

[@RandommBoyo]

That's a lot of words to basically say Sega is fucking dogshit at managing anything Sonic

[@Blanktester685]

as if every other company doesn't have tons of lost media, franchise is over 30 years old lost media is expected.

[@Alexifeu]

Sega needs to stop making Sonic games for iPhones because Apple is garbage. They should release all their games on PC or Android too. I am still trying to make the perfect MACOS virtual machine to play Sonic on. Also I hate Nintendo and the Nintendo Switch and also Xbox Series S because of these garbage consoles games cannot get their full potential. :(((((( Makes me really sad.