Lost Volvo! GPS/Nav Wrong Location (2016 XC90)

[@johnathanbaker4364]

Love the uploads Ivan. I’m a master tech for Volvo in the uk. Even the dealer diagnostic doesn’t give you all the information! SW update usually fixes nav issue but as the cars are getting older the Vehicle Connectivity Modules are starting to fail. Giving no comm and nav issues. It’s all a learning experience 👍

[@engeneer_ru5827]

What is the aging period in question? How old is it?

[@johnathanbaker4364]

@@engeneer_ru5827 hi, it’s not so much as an age related problem. There are two types of VCM. Early model XC90, 256 model code, have a separate TEM. The later cars the TEM is incorporated into the VCM. Both types have had problems with modules having internal hardware issues. To be fare I’ve not had an issue with a VCM for the last 6 months. Unsure why this occurred but the module couldn’t be recovered even with factory programming.

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[@geraldwesley2617]

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[@Honeypot-x9s]

First of all, don’t have a heart attack, Volvos I say from 2011 and newer love to throw DTCs based on algorithms. Basically throwing codes before problems happen. But given the amount of codes on that customer’s car and what some of them indicated, likely they had a weak battery at some point. Also 2016 was a rough year for XC90 and XC60 as it was major re-design when they got these new looks and layouts and is known to have issues. The solution is honestly, a $60 software update via VIDA software, with latest software update on all of the modules specify the infotainment module (IAM on older Volvos not sure what it is on 2016 and newer). Shouldn’t be any hard locked issues from hardware failure on a 2016, they aren’t known for pinched wires or anything like that could take something offline usually if something stops working in my experiance it’s usually because another module had decided to clog up that com bus, which is all fairly modern Volvos have this issue I have this issue on my 2011 XC70 at random it seems like where charging circuit randomly decides to spam the Lin bus commanding the alternator.. this intern will usually end up clogging the LIN bus and slowly start reducing functionality of something that doesn’t make sense.. for example, after the ECU and CEM fight with alternator I usually have to reset my window positions, meaning don’t auto roll up or down and sometimes get BLIS Reduced functionality alert.. do basicaly that fight up there ends up confusing my door modules. Luckily after a few minutes the modules go into a default mode so nothing is completely useless. After a software update this nearly fixed it all, can’t fix all the quirks but it fixed all the major complaints

[@Simomotard33]

Seems like at some point the car had a dead battery issue

[@Paolo0902]

Second that. Looks like typical modern car low voltage system issues. Besides you need VIDA for Volvo. They always had this fancy trouble codes - www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/EngineOBDCodes.html

[@fdg008]

Yes - this ^ .... all those codes were no comms due to dead or dying battery. Same type of codes as my Jeep, Mini, and Mustang in recent years (post 2011). The reality of it is: Everything that can be software (either defined, programmed or modulated) will be. You are going to have to back over a decade these days to avoid that reality. And increasingly, the 2009 and earlier cars are off to the crusher. And once mass electrification of the fleet comes in the next decade, it will all be software defined automotive like this.

[@ob_gyn_inc]

I guess I'll have to add Volvo to my list of "never buy, ever" cars now...

[@hikerJohn]

@Edward Martinez That's true and eventually someone will post some solutions for things like this on a forum.

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Regarding electronics and emissions, European vehicles seem to do things differently than American and most Asian.

[@ckm-mkc]

@@mikechiodetti4482 Volvo may be European, but they do everything differently than other European manufacturers - they are far more conservative in engineering design than the Germans, more like the Japanese. Also, for a long, long time, Volvo built cars with the idea that owners would pretty much drive them into the ground (e.g. > 10 year lifespan), so everything was over engineered. Can't speak of the latest generation, but at least pre-Geely, this was still the philosophy. Also, pretty much every luxury car has this many computing devices, not sure you can get away from this unless you stick to late-90's/early 2000s cars.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Yeah I would stick to pre 2010 models

[@mrb1864]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yeh I think I go back pre 2006 new cars like this a complete headache and waste of time and money . you quite simply do not need all that crap in a car and all it does is reduce mpg potential, lifespan and increase part/material resources making them far worse for pollution than any of the good stuff from late 80's to early 2000's . Industrial capitalism at it's worse ...

[@cletusgaming6108]

Actually it showed you in North Carolina not South Carolina

[@zeke112964]

You beat me to it. Somewhere around Fayetteville NC

[@cletusgaming6108]

zeke112964 yep I would know as I used to go down to that part of the country all the time

[@zeke112964]

@@cletusgaming6108 I live in Raleigh

[@TreyCook21]

I didn't want to tell him...

[@simonparkinson1053]

Ivan, I was expecting you to shout "REV UP YOUR ENGINES!" at some point, with all your Scotty Kilmer style comments about the Volvo!

[@guod1973]

Yeah I think he is becoming Scotty. He said if this is the direction cars are going. Yeah you will be outta of your moonlighting job. Have you seen a Tesla?

[@guod1973]

He can be informative but he pretty much says dont buy any car made after like 2010. They cant be fixed he says or they are engineered to fail. I actually agree with him on many points but thats just not realistic.

[@eldoradony]

I'm no Volvo expert but in the beginning of your video when you were showing the scan, multiple faults indicated voltage. That car probably has the original battery. I have seen a few cars recently with voltage codes and various systems not working that were all the fault of a weak battery that still started the engine.

[@JoePJack1]

It’s a problem with the space time continuum. Usually this is caused when your flux capacitor is low on plutonium. Another cause is bringing an item from the past back to the future. On rare occasions meeting your past self can cause this as well.

[@awkwarddude]

🤣🤣👍

[@Anatoliy911]

Hahahaha

[@kelleysfamily]

lol!!!!

[@brianw8963]

Volvo, Oh no, is what I thought! My neighbor had several of these I've worked on over the years and He moved away earlier this year. hated to see Him leave, but I don't miss the Volvos. Then I remembered where He moved to, Ivantown! Owner's not Dennis H. by any chance??? Surely not

[@metoon3092]

Good Video. Truly. I like how Ivan post BONUS FOOTAGE. This guy has a bug in him that makes him persist on his diagnosis of vehicles. What he did not tell us though, was, he awoke the next morning with Dorthy saying- " We're not in Kansas anymore "!

[@kastooMcFry]

A typical example of using technology for technology's sake. Good job, Ivan. You tried.

[@billyyoder8171]

"Still gonna charge an hour diag, just because!" Now, I'm gonna charge them extra! LOL 😆 nice. Keith taught you well young grasshopper. Have a blessed and safe week to you and your family.

[@MeatLeBeef]

5:42 Safety - microcontroller. That's what stands for :)

[@rlgrlg-oh6cc]

Whenever disconnecting a battery to reset circuitry, you may need to short the disconnected terminals together, as someone else mentioned. The standby current can be low enough that capacitors can keep the voltage from dropping far enough to reset everything properly.

[@MA-ff5to]

Complete bull , look at the discharge time of a capacitor. The airbag system has the biggest ones. No where does it say to touch leads together before working on the system

[@mman454]

M A Another thing about SRS modules is they most likely have diodes in series with the capacitors in order to keep them from being discharged by an external short between power and ground during a crash.

[@n9wox]

Unfortunately, this is the direction new vehicles are going, basically a computer on wheels, especially for EVs.

[@reecenewton3097]

If a person gotta, just gotta, have a EuroLuxoMobile, lease it, don't buy it. After 3 years it goes back and some innocent bystander buys it.

[@sukalanger]

The software malaise of bugs and insufficiently tested software comes to cars

[@n9wox]

@@Android-ng1wn Possibly less modules, but overall many more lines of code. First, gen chevy volt is estimated to have 1 million lines of code.

[@alex1949]

My son bought a shiney H3, without checking it out. It didn't run right so I checked it out. Over 100 codes! I noticed a bent crank. Pulled engine, and found lots of metal and it had thrown a rod in the past. A hole was welded and epoxied. The trans was also about to grenade, with lots of metal in the pan. Found evidence that it was a flood car too. A little over a year later, after a total rebuild, it's finally fixed. I think this is still easier than a new car. Still not worth it, but it was fun and a good lesson!

[@needadate]

It's the battery, period. The update restarts selftests after car is started, thus masking the problem the voltage drop induces. ALWAYS test the battery as Step 1. Al-damn-ways.

[@awkwarddude]

And why I still have my 87 740 GLE "Red Block". Only functions the ECU controls are the electronic fuel injection system and related engine management stuff. 2nd owner since '01. Arizona car, been with me in Sourhern Colorado, bought it with 120K on it, now bumping against 400K in a few weeks. Feel sorry for the owners of newer gen Volvos. From the various owner blogs, lots of issues. Planning on keeping our "Swedish Brick" long into the future. Enjoyed your diagnostic video, first time viewer.

[@garyhix198]

I down loaded the updated software to a Flash drive and then loaded it into my 2015 V60. Everything updated and worked as designed. No Charge! By the way, that car was built in Sweden, not China. I go to a shade tree mechanic that only works on Volvos. Fixed first time, every time. Not extra charges when nothing is done here in NC where the the nav system was pointing you.

[@honestmechanic7974]

I think "FM" at the end is the best way to sum up these cars now. No support, no dealers and parts cost of the chart😝

[@jaydenholland6748]

In my experience with sat navs when you do battery resets the nav system has to locate satellites again and can take round 20 min to an hr right pain but got to love the new tech no matter how frustrating 😀

[@loz11968]

Sometimes when gps is powered off it can take a while for it to re acquire satellite signals... so will work for a while then glitch and lock up. cars are getting to be a computer tech based system

[@volvo09]

The complication of computer systems is actually why I got out of "IT"... I loved it for over 25 years when things were like older cars.... fix what's broken, diagnose each system... but now you have so many interconnected systems all running their own software and modifying data across networks, and it sometimes affects things down the line that you are working on, it's just too aggravating. For instance in corporate IT (which sucks the most, and the modern dealership tech experience is becoming very much now a corporate IT like job running around applying updates) I was getting reports for weeks that phone calls were dropping or becoming glitchy sounding (across new and old phone systems), email was occasionally slow, and sometimes apps were hanging up for no reason, blah blah blah. No help from anyone in control of those systems and they just tell us to replace peoples computers, replace phones, etc (huge waste of time) then eventually the problem worsens BADLY and the network folks get involved, no help, days later it really blows up and turns into a 2 day no sleep event because the company is a standstill. Root cause, a software update on a piece of networking equipment that compresses traffic between sites was affected by a SOFTWARE UPDATE a month ago (when the first "hey, something isn't right" reports started rolling in) and degraded this system over time, since it modified traffic it affected all systems and left no real clues on affected systems. This is just like new cars, and this type of repair is not what I enjoy at all. Props to the people that are ok with it, but I like to fix something, not apply 7 software updates and tell a customer it "should" be fixed, or to check back later... what fixed it? Why did it take 4 years to show up and suddenly needs software to fix it?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@volvo09 yup this is exactly where the automotive industry is headed 😳

[@brianleeper5737]

@@volvo09 That stuff happens because there are a lot of people in IT who (1) won't let anyone else look at "their" stuff and (2) blame problems with "their" stuff on other people's stuff. It's basically an attitude problem, and the attitude sucks. When a jackass having a turf war over their equipment causes an entire company to have problems, someone needs to get fired.

[@daveyio87]

my wifes 14 mazda 3 i was able to find the radio software online to download to usb to update her radio. It was a forum. A lot of cars use open source software, its just a matter of being able to find the update. There still is that risk doing usb updates that if something goes wrong it could brick the module. I haven't had that happen to me yet on any of the GMs i've done. Although i learned to always put a clean power supply to maintain battery voltage when doing those updates because i have had them freeze from voltage fluctuations and disconnecting the battery recovered the modules.

[@kelleysfamily]

Appreciate the video. There are a lot of comments here to read through and I am just wondering if a DIY solution was found? My 2016 XC90 has same issue.

[@rusty6666]

Wow i still like my old school cars easy to fix and no computer stuff to deal with but Ivan you sure no your stuff pal you always try to find a solution to the problem .....Thanks and take care.

[@lovetolearn5253]

You are absolutely right, cars are getting crazier. The sad part is alot of the stuff on the vechile the owner doesnt use/know and doesnt want. They should make a nice looking basic car. Nothing crazy just power seats, windows and a radio. It seems like its over complicated. To be honest the testing is not there. You should not have a issue like this in 3 years. Stop pushing and start testing. I wonder what their test methods are before it approved to be installed.

[@kennethbode2017]

that would be a good one for Diagnose Dan. Those are the kind of cars to get rid of right before warranty is gone

[@petersonanson4300]

They spend all that extra money for that navigation for it not to work. I just use my Galaxy note 9 phone navigation

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

All well and good as long as you have reception from several towers so the phone can figure out it's location. I'd rather use actual GPS.

[@mikefoehr235]

GARMIN

[@peterzwn7121]

Or just properly update it and have no problems at all.

[@petersonanson4300]

@@mikefoehr235 you know what I almost bought one eventhough it was off facebook marketplace

[@neilmurphy845]

Ya excaly it's only people who are older and buy Doros who use that crap Google will never fail and you can download the maps you need on there or just buy a Tom Tom

[@Itsme-vo4fx]

I had a problem with the “small” battery that is used, among other things, to lock the doors after driving away. They replaced that secondary battery and it fixed it for a week or so. I returned to the dealership. They looked into it further and found that when replacing that battery, you should just leave the car there overnight (not to be driven) to allow all of the codes to reset. They gave me a loaner. I returned the next day to pick up my car and haven’t had that problem since (three years). I also had a problem with the gas cap compartment door not unlocking. The solution was easy. Enter the car driver seat. Lock the doors (from the inside using the button on the door, not the fob) and unlocked them three times. That apparently resets everything. Never had that problem again. Just a couple of solutions that might help the readership.

[@andrescastro4836]

Hi Ivan,I think that A.E. once said "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal". That is why I keep my 2000 Grand Cher. Take care. Cheers from BC

[@gremlin60]

this seems like the same thing you have to do with drones. they need a compass calibration. something about reading the magnetic in the air or something.. if not they have no clue where they are on the planet

[@allisterkelly5826]

The think diag scan tool allows you to download actual manufacturer specific workshop software

[@TheCrazy243]

I love ThinkDiag! Powerful little scan tool.

[@mtspace5100]

Everybody has missed the real fix here. Buy a 1994 F150 with a straight six and a road atlas at your local gas station. Problem solved.

[@baxrok2.]

Haha, no way Jose, none of that newfangled garbage for me. Thanks Ivan!

[@Garth2011]

I'd hope to know that the dealerships will flash computers/modules/firmware etc. at no cost to the car owner and for good reason, the existing tech is faulty and was when purchased/built. Finding an issue with their own software and then charging customers for the fix with a flash update should be free and because it was flawed from the get go.

[@paul_nwsxs]

I will stick to using my apple car play for my navigation, google maps so much better than any manufacturer satellite navigation

[@fs98sim]

It looks like there is a planed route in the gps. Can you try to cancel it? Ask the customer if that was their last road trip.

[@nsaglian]

Ivan, I believe the disconnect the battery gambit did repair the problem. It would take some time to reacquire the GPS signals. Defiantly good observation about the crushing over complexity of modern vehicles! Makes it harder to apply "the Russian fix"! BTW the navigator was stuck on roughly Fayetteville, NORTH CAROLINA.

[@srnc9740]

I have VIDA for my 2011 S80 and a dedicated older laptop for it. Like BMW, these cars are highly computerized and stores every little problem. First time when I connected the laptop, the car said No Vehicle Messages, but in memory where stored about 20. So, the car worked perfect, but codes are stored anyway and don't go away even if you fixed the problem, for dealers and maybe their statistics, once I deleted them never came back. I like the car, it's fun to drive and very performant, it's 3.2L non-turbo so less problems, but if it starts to make problems I'll get rid of it! This brand is for people who have money and appreciate luxury, not for DIY's. Updating modules is a complicated task and if fail, it's a costly job! Scotty is right when said to stick with '94 Celica!

[@THEACERASPIREMAN]

Volvo's OEM diagnostic software, VIDA is $75 for a 3-day license. You just need a J-2534 passthrough, so it's not that cost-prohibitive.

[@engeneer_ru5827]

Too much to learn and read! Three days is not enough ...

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Great suggestion!

[@jkbrown5496]

I was just reading a DigiKey article on bridging between the coming 12v and 48v systems in cars. Specifically, on the specialized chips being developed. But apparently the trend is toward adding a 48v system to even ICE cars to power electric AC and other high current systems. But the 12v will continue for sometime due to the plethora of 12v subsystems in production. Soon the mechanic will be more electrician and computer repair tech.

[@thehemiolds455]

All those modules is mind blowing it’s the cheaper version of Roll Royce with all those you modules😬😩😂

[@archibaldgeorge8916]

this is how cars are going for better fuel economy and clearer exhaust systems it's been that way for some time over here in europe

[@notajp]

I’m soooo happy our 06 Chrysler T&C doesn’t have all this fancy garbage! My iPhone works fine for navigation. Hasn’t failed me yet.....

[@ckm-mkc]

To be fair, 90% of those codes were due to a dead battery or disconnected battery. Also, the new Volvo factory is in SC, so that's probably the default when no signal. FYI, anyown can cheaply buy a VIDA (Volvo OEM scantool) clone for cheap and get most of the dealer functionality. Volvo also gives access to software updates for non-dealers, like most OEMs. Costs $20-40/day IRC. I would also point out that Volvo uses completely different terminology than most manufacturers, which is super confusing...

[@mike_svt93]

With all those faults, I would think the most common suspect to be battery voltage. If they were all legit faults, then to the dealer it goes. Would be interesting to know if the GPS problem has returned or not.

[@thetinpin]

I work at a parts store and I had a customer a couple weeks ago that was adamant that his goofy Volvo XC90 was some kind of magical opus of bulletproof engineering. IMHO his car has more modules than he has brain cells.

[@hatfez]

Modern cars are like modern women, complicated, finicky and ultimately, not worth the trouble.

[@williamwhite9767]

Test Driving lots of them is fun though!

[@dpeagles]

🤣🤣🤣🤔🤔🤔 Way too close to reality.

[@mikefoehr235]

Maybe the VIRTUAL WOMAN will be the saviour of man. One that gets you snacks while having a cold beer after work and just sits there quietly waiting for you to ask for something👍🤣😂

[@dpeagles]

@MG Stevens Haha, we have a simp here.

[@juergenscholl2843]

@@dpeagles "Here" ist where you are, right?

[@dwoodog]

Completely unrelated, my ford fusion has a heat problem and is more computer than car. Checked the forums and it's a known problem, most agree to disconnect the battery for 1/2 an hour. Well it didn't fix anything. IMO disconnecting the battery usually never fixes much.

[@geyser3445]

It is really a shame how overly complicated cars have become. 100 faults codes on a 4 year old car. If you can't figure out the problem, how are people like me supposed to figure it out. I will keep my 2003 Taurus with a radio that has physical buttons, not that terrible touch screen system. These car companies just want you to take your car back to the dealer and get charged big bucks. What a scam.

[@Paolo0902]

Get used to that. All newer cars have now ADAS systems. Now when you change windscreen glass you most likely need recalibration of camera/radar systems. No more old school motoring, especially in Europe.

[@Peter-pv8xx]

They come with all the warning lights on from the factory, it's up to the owner to sort it out, all Volvos are like that no matter the year. My friend had a 2000 s80 with 66,000 miles on it, it was bought new, in 2007 his wife committed suicide and the car sat for about 8 years until his kid was old enough to drive then he wanted to get it on the road, by then it and deteriorated because it was left outside, critters had built nests in the air filter box and chewed the insulation under the hood but they didn't chew any wires, he put a new battery in and it started but the dash was all lit up, it needed all new brakes oil change new tires he was given an estimate of over 2000 for the work but there was one major problem, the hood had rusted shut, so when my friend asked about getting the hood open he acted like why would you want to do that, his son didn't want me working on it because he said he wanted to, the kid had never even picked up a screw driver let alone work on a car. I eventually got the job and getting to the hood latches, volco has two required removing the front of the car basically and when I did both latches were rusted solid, a lot of wd40 and some cleaning had them working like new again, then came time to address the electrical system, the abs light was the easiest, those models were known to have the abs module go bad, there are companies you send it to and they rebuild them, after having that done the abs light was out then there's that yellow triangle that stays on right in the center of the dash, everyone told me that only the dealer can scan these cars, i took it and they said they had to reflash the computer for a cost of 1,200 called my friend and he said to go ahead and let them do it, I drove the car back to my house and all the lights came back on again, I called the dealer they said that I'd have to bring it back and leave it, they provided a rental car it was there for two days I picked it up and they said they couldn't fix it, my friends kid drove it until he went away to college and then my friend got rid of it. Electrical gremlins are notorious in European cars and as is proven here volvos might be the worse, the s80 I found out uses the same transmission as my 2001 lesabre, that might be the only good thing about it.

[@sergeyspirin4539]

Привет, Иван! Чтобы сделать диагностику планшетов в машине ,надо ещё планшет!😁 Кодов на неделю насыпали,от души

[@imolny5010]

Copy and paste the message here: translate.google.com/ (open in a new tab so you can get back easy).

[@ianmorris8534]

@@imolny5010 Hello Ivan! To diagnose tablets in the car, you need another tablet! 😁 Codes were poured for a week, heartily

[@for2utube]

FYI: my 2017 Buick LaCrosse warns the dash needs to be inactive and all doors closed for several minutes before disconnecting the trunk-mounted battery. If not, the On-Star theft battery is activated and will drain and need replacement. (Noticed Volvo driver door open when you disconnect its battery.)

[@djambrosia]

You're gonna need a degree in computer software to work on cars in a few years Ivan. As a developer I can totally understand this move into modular components on cars as it gives manufactures the ability to adapt for differing market rules/expectations worldwide. It also streamlines integration of components sourced from other suppliers which I suspect has led to some of these nonsense modules being used. Without some widespread consumer backlash I can only see things getting worse. I'll stick to old banger's and classics for a somewhat easier life.

[@VWWRENCHIE]

Thanks Ivan..that was Geely good...tests your patience.😎

[@zx8401ztv]

It's not the volvo we knew, it's a china made heap!. No wonder it's a design nightmare. Can you tell i don't like it ivan lol :-D

[@neilmurphy845]

Yes as I said above Chinese Volvo=garbage Volvo Volvo/Ford=good Volvo

[@reecenewton3097]

@@neilmurphy845" Geely Motors' headquarters are in Shanghai; however, Volvo Cars remains headquartered in Torslanda in Gothenburg, Sweden. Volvo Cars has manufacturing plants in Sweden, Belgium, China, and recently opened their first manufacturing facility in the United States, in South Carolina."

[@frugalprepper]

Did you check the battery voltage? Just saying that battery looked original.

[@KrzysztofNowicki]

Maybe the GPS unit got nuts due to GPS Week Number Rollover, which happened on April 7, 2019? A number of GPS receivers we work with at my company required firmware patches to properly handle this phenomenon.

[@rickcoleman8903]

You have the magic touch.

[@tam1381]

Ivan i do a lot of Volvo's.Normally there are good BUT the new stuff is shocking. To much electrical crap on them. I suspect this car needs a battery.It's a common issue when having all the codes you have. There could be 2 batteries on thay car. Bring back the old stuff, that's what i say.

[@bxwild5662]

So how prone are the new ones (2019 2020) to issues? Always in the shop?

[@tam1381]

@Bobby Brady One for starting and the other smaller in size for powering control units.

[@tam1381]

@@bxwild5662 Updating software is always an ongoing thing they are so loaded with control units.Wat over the top if you ask me.

[@bxwild5662]

@@tam1381 Thanks good to know. I am thinking of buying an sc60 next year.

[@tam1381]

@@bxwild5662 I currently drive a Volvo S60 Diesel .Not a bad car but still has a lot of electrical crap on it.My other car is a Toyota Avensis Diesel had it for 14 years and still going strong and guess what,nothing ever fails on the Toyota.

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

When I saw catastrophic failure like that, I first thought was rodent wire damage or under body wire damage...Electronics usually is pretty reliable, its the mechanical connections or related electrical moving parts that normally fail...Seems Volvo doesn't give much clues in the trouble clues to help you isolate the direction to take in troubleshooting...

[@aaronturner1072]

Sad thing is that this is running some super modded version of Android. If only you could figure out how to boot that media unit into recovery, you could clear the cache and force a reboot. Works wonders for most 📱

[@jblo6822]

I keep driving my 02 Buick Lesabre with 200,000 miles, and it keeps running with routine maintenance. Afraid to buy anything new.

[@tomctutor]

Just an afterthought. A vehicle like that with all those modules and wires everywhere could be sensitive to lightning, passing under arcing powerlines or even solar-storms! I know it sounds daft but, once when I drove under utility lines I developed all sorts of codes and alarms etc.

[@AP9311]

That's Volvo for you!! Just don't own it lol. Take it to Eric O and he'll reflash it lol. Bonus win for you both. A another collab!! Haha, great video..

[@TheBROY123]

Vcm had an internal fault. That module operates the wifi, gps, and it gets all that info from the antenna. Gm is the same way. You scan for codes and have an internal performance code in any module you replace that. When that code populates its a self diagnostics internal to that module if it sees a problem it tells on itself. New module should correct. If not a possible antenna issue

[@TheBROY123]

@pinehollowautodiagnostics (ivan) i work at a gm dealer. If you ever have strang issues i can walk you through it. We are all in this together. Email me if you ever need advice on gm products. Also the new vehicles are a lot easier to diagnose. They have a new global network on the vehicle where the dlc does not have any hawd connection to any data netwrok. It talks only to the sdgm so pin 6 and 14 resistance tests are out the window on 2020 gm vehicles you do all the testing at the sdgm now. My email is [e-mail]

[@shopenz]

Unfortunately this is the future.. not cars, robots.

[@TractorWrangler01]

I would do a visual inspection on that car to see if it has a wireing harness rubbed through somewhere due to a factory routing error. Just a thought.

[@engeneer_ru5827]

This model has a typical problem - water gets into the connectors located in front of the sills. This applies to cars for Russia. I don't know if it's relevant for North America ...

[@hellomobile3743]

Same issue. Live in Texas shows in New York

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Yikes!!! The HAL 9000 on wheels! "What are you trying to do, Ivan?" " I'm sorry, Ivan, I'm afraid I can't do that." 😂🤣😂 I want NO part of a vehicle like that - not to work on, and definitely not to own!! What a friggin nightmare. Buckle up fellas! The next several years are gonna be a run ride in auto repair ... 😬

[@aleskyfinis1025]

The final thing I would do was reset via the presets and see what happens from there if I were you before you give up

[@kennethbrown7033]

It's not telling you where it's at. It's telling you where you need to go!

[@jdmeaux]

The more computerized vehicles become, the more headaches and costs goes to the customer. Which is exactly what the manufacturers want. They need to make all diagnostics and software updates as part of the ownership package and not this 12 month/12k miles warranty crap. LIFETIME WARRANTY. Then the manufacturers will make sure it works properly before it leaves the factory. Moe

[@josephwash109]

Probably embedded in all of those codes somewhere is a DTC that means "Time to buy new Volvo. See dealer now." Maybe those are the ones that say "see service manual."

[@n.russell7640]

You have to calibrate the GPS compass by driving to Caribou, Maine, then Key West, Florida, then to San Diego, CA and finally Seattle, WA., stopping at each point and disconnecting the battery for 30 minutes. That should do the trick!

[@reecenewton3097]

While out west, leave the car in Portland so they set it on fire, collect the insurance.

[@Charles_Mulberry_7977]

I thought for sure pulling the battery and rebooting everything would work! Recently my friend had to pull the plug to reboot his TV to get it to work again. I had to remove the battery on a set of calipers so it would start working again. Maybe the GPS receiver is bad. Aren't electronics great, kids?

[@otisplunk2599]

Control+Alt+Delete has been answer since before DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. I guess you need to update the software to fix the issue caused by the updated software...sigh...

[@n9wox]

Did you buy the new scanner to work on newer vehicles?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Like Scotty says, you have to fight computers with computers haha

[@Prakicov]

So now Volvo is a new Mercedes ? :D

[@james42519]

sorry you need to get with the times. you either learn this stuff or you will be out of a job really. really i like this tech stuff and figuring out stuff. i am lost with mechanical stuff and no idea about how cars work though really. surprised you don't do updates yet. seems like something you would have got into by now.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

You should try this stuff for yourself...not as easy as doing a cell phone or Windows update ;)

[@thomasdemarco617]

when you disconnect the battery turn headlights on to empty and stored capacidence , also removing the sims card may have done the same thing

[@ASHole71]

Always check forum post dates

[@SuperDd40]

Must be COV-19

[@likearockcm]

It's problems like this that make renting look attractive .

[@matthewrice2152]

Got the same issue on a 2019 Cherokee if you're ever in the Atlanta area :-). Seems like a known software issue. You can reset everything and it works for a while. Then it won't connect to GPS. So you lose not only navigation but the time sync.

[@matthewrice2152]

@Bobby Brady like I said it also impacts the system time/clock. So that's not accurate. You can disable the time/GPS sync, but then you're constantly reminded that it's disabled and asked if you want to re-enable it.

[@elpuerco6059]

Cannon vs Dealer Visit ? It’s a push. Nice work. 👍🏼

[@pookatim]

I think after you reconnected the battery and looked at the GPS display, it showed that you were in the correct location. The arrow was pointing towards the second location.

[@davesage9190]

What I noted similar to that was that it came back saying it was calculating a route. The battery reset should have cleared out all the previous navigation requests and just gone back to a plain map. That says to me that the battery reset did not work. As someone else mentioned it can take quite a while for it to locate satellites and figure out where it is. Seems like it just picked up where it left off i.e. never saw a power reset.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@davesage9190 but why did the location reset correctly? The battery reset must have done something right!

[@davesage9190]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics No not really. Read on. Sorry for the ramble. Maybe some things get jumbled up in the video editing. But from what I remember when you reconnected the battery after 10 minutes or so it came back and said it was re-calculating a route. Which means it kept it's previous settings. It may be that the GPS has a backup battery. Even though my standalone Garmin GPS is turned off and stored in the house for a long time it comes up trying to continue what it was doing before. If it had a destination programmed into when it was turned off it it will try to continue the route to where I was last headed. Also if you turn it off, leave it off, and travel to a new location without the GPS turned on it is common for it to come up thinking it is still in the old location. It stays displaying the map as it was until it locates enough satellites to reposition itself AND if there was a destination programmed into it it will recalculate the route. Was your customer ever in North Carolina where he programmed a destination to home? (or maybe the reverse) How did North Carolina get in there with a route programmed to / from home? Was there a message or symbol on the display saying it was trying to locate satellites? If so it was probably stuck with old information until it could relocate itself. I suspect the GPS antenna connection is bad? If so it would be stuck until it located satellites. Perhaps when you started driving it the loose antenna connection was made and it figured out where it was and the display corrected itself. If he changed location significantly while the antenna connection was broken - like North Carolina back to Pennsylvania it can take a couple of minutes for it to get it's head straight once the antenna is reconnected. The longer you leave it off the longer it takes because the previous satellites have moved. My guess is it will be back. If so check for a bad antenna connection. The display should indicate somehow that it has no satellites.

[@brallybear620]

To much chinesium in newer Volvos. BTW I have a 2008 V70 2.5T with 130 000 miles on it. Had it since new and only replaced wear parts. Serviced every year of course. I think I will keep it for another 100 000 miles. Lives in Scandinavia with road conditions (read salt) similar to north east USA.

[@frugalprepper]

It's because it wants you to go ride Fury 325!

[@alexandermartincausey7333]

Why do they care about the navigation system? Everyone has a smartphone now. Google maps? Never buy the 1st year of a new redesign. Also, Volvo's CPO warranty is best in the business. if you want one, buy it CPO and stretch the warranty out to 10 years/unlimited miles and you won't have to worry.

[@ncc17701a]

Sometimes all you want is a vehicle that can get you from A to B. This weird need car makers feel to cram technology into anything and everything is only going to add to the pile of rusting cars no-one can fix. My father saw the same on fork-lift trucks. The number of unserviceable trucks went up because the electronics kept failing, not the actual truck itself.

[@khakiswag]

This is sad. When I was coming up Volvo 240s and 740s were known for reliability, they were bulletproof.

[@t5ruxlee210]

Everything is working. Sell. Sell.

[@ToxicwasteProductions]

I'm definitely not buying a car like that my dang xc70 had to many modules and that's a 2001 model. But I do have the factory software on a laptop thank God.

[@xanderlander8989]

How did getting from one place to another become so complicated?

[@davemcgaffney9401]

I have a 2016 Chrysler 200 (FIAT) that is known to loose it's mind when the main battery fails... A kinds of strange error codes get stored... The cure replace the battery... Problems gone... Low voltage at times of hard current draw... The FCA cars electronics are based on EU designs and an unstable B+... This is not uncommon in newer cars... Try subbing a known good battery and clearing codes...

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Known good battery is probably 1000 bucks

[@reecenewton3097]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yet another reason not to get a computer on wheels.

[@gordonwilloughby8793]

I did a search for that problem and it said to turn the wheel all the way right and all the way left. Didn't read the whole thing but it might want you to drive it when doing this.

[@Peter_Riis_DK]

11:14 - It would appear you are not still i SC - right after touching the screen. Or what are we seeing?

[@daved9226]

Video could be shortened to 3-4 minutes. Also, NC was the state you should have referenced.