LOTRO: Ultimate Mariner Guide - Rotation, Traits, Virtues, Legendary Items

[@Skuduc]

Thank you for taking the time to make this. As a returning player who is daunted by learning a new class and has limited time this is the type of video that keeps me excited and a loyal fan of lotro.

[@ytth439]

Really great video sir! I think lotro is lacking complete videos guides like this on youtube. I’ve been really happy with the red and yellow lines, not so much with blue (hoping it grows on me). Thanks again for the hours you spent putting this video together.

[@indrabar]

Thanks for this! Someone in worldchat recommended your video as a guide and they weren't wrong! A lot of good info here.

[@Mito383]

I just started LOTRO as a River Hobbit Mariner. It’s a bit intimidating to start with all these but this guide helps a lot.

[@Practice9Perfection]

Oh, hi Daemon Targaryen... Glad you decided to become a Mariner

[@captainofdunedain3993]

Highelf would be more accurate with hair color and height tho :)

[@ghynghyn4706]

I will admit, when I was making my character I kept hitting randomize and I came upon this look and it reminded me of Daemon. So definitely inspired by him!

[@Gutlard]

I wish the game was more specific about classes/trees/skills/etc. I'm finding the descriptions leave a lot to be desired on the Mariner, but I knew right where to come for great info. Thanks as always, man!

[@doltonnoak2656]

After watching this, it makes a lot of sense that the guy that created this class is now gonna handle the class refreshes. Amazing guide, i feel like i played the class already 😆. Good job 🙂👍

[@justinmiller187]

Maybe one thing that some may want to change depending on the situation would be adding in aoe target count. Helps shanties and marked foes.

[@darthsyy]

Now that is exactly what i've been waiting for, thank you Ghyn!

[@pattycake427]

I've been waiting for someone to make a video like this. Thank you so much!

[@captainofdunedain3993]

I was waiting for this! Thanks a lot man

[@xChinobi]

Just returned and snagged expansion because this class looked interesting. Thank you for this!

[@LuciousDeMorte]

This is a really great video, thank you for putting everything together, no doubt a lot of work.

[@frankbonfilio7443]

Thanks for this video, I just got the expansion yesterday. I am trying the blue line. Liking it so far!

[@thatsoupguy]

thank you ghynghyn for creating the guide

[@merickful]

The buff stick is also good for mugging Hobbits at night in the Shire. Thank you for this great video!!

[@S.Kapriniotis]

Thank you for this. I hope it will make Mariner playable for me, because so far it was so difficult to understand what was going on it became a chore.

[@reasonforge9997]

The Mariner...because the Warden was not complicated enough.

[@brohanfromrohan5771]

I'm playing on the new legendary server and it's been absolutely impossible to find a rotation guide for what's available at level 50. Speccing into other trees for skills like Marked Foes and Breath of Fire simply isn't a possibility.

[@Tetter.]

I was thinking about this, the class is new and wasnt designed around 50, so will there be a build for 50? Idk im new to lotro

[@zalexia27]

parry and evade actually is important more parry than evade. you can set up w/ engard and blade shield and get a parry buff making you harder to kill. the class item only comes from doing the books and pages

[@runejensen3321]

deffo make me wanna come back to lotro to play this new class :b

[@karmoth6666]

Masterpiece. Thanks

[@mrseventysix495]

What plugin are you using that is letting you track the re-centre and marked foes there above your actionbars?

[@ghynghyn4706]

I think it's PrimePlugin

[@reasonforge9997]

The "En Garde" skill (at least currently) says it gives +100% thrust damage for 10 seconds. Was it different when this video was made. Seems like its useful in rotation to me (at least now).

[@lincolnjohnson4428]

Well to add. People are reporting that Mariner is scaling poorly at max level. Not sure why, but they are saying they are weaker at max level than 140.

[@fullforcegail8372]

Can you do rotation videos for other classes too please?

[@ghynghyn4706]

Long-term I am planning on doing videos like this for every class, yes.

[@danialroslan1531]

beorning please @@ghynghyn4706

[@RapeTrain89]

Great guide. I just got back to lotro and tried out the Mariner class. How do you get those "Foreward" & "Marked foes" under the Balance shifts?

[@ghynghyn4706]

Primeplugin plugin

[@lincolnjohnson4428]

The only thing throwing me off Mariner is the positional requirement. Its basically the same problem Burglar has, but the opposite direction. For example, a red/blue mariner should be standing with the tank to maximize DPS.. which is odd. Good for soloing tho.

[@ghynghyn4706]

It still does good damage without the positional at the moment though!

[@salmonfire]

i love your video but i need to know what is the slider bar for. What does it mean if the slider bar goes right and left, I dont understand!

[@davidsellers6407]

I was wondering if u could make a guide for the treebread server for the class like for Tracie’s and traits

[@ghynghyn4706]

I would probably just recommend my tracery video guide and trait lines on discord.

[@Nachtfrost682]

Danke!

[@ghynghyn4706]

Danke!

[@_Malvar]

i think en garde should be in the rotations for the power restore

[@ghynghyn4706]

I mentioned it for blue line where I used more power than the other lines, it's definitely a skill you can weave in after you re-centre.

[@rampant54]

I notice tat you have a countdown timer on some of your skills, which add-on does that?

[@ghynghyn4706]

PrimePlugin

[@adamu6941]

I just started one (I already have 8 HL characters) I was wondering if, like many of these multi-role classes, if it was good in raids and other HL instances? Often, those who do a little of everything do it less well than those who are dedicated to a specific role. Your opinion ?

[@ghynghyn4706]

Currently Mariner is performing really well in instances. Both blue and red are viable.

[@adamu6941]

​@@ghynghyn4706thanks for the info, i will play him then ;)

[@adamu6941]

@@ghynghyn4706 do i need to focus agility, strengh or both ? For red dps

[@ghynghyn4706]

@@adamu6941 Agi

[@adamu6941]

@@ghynghyn4706 thanks !

[@cc66bb44]

how's does mariner compare to beornings for really hard solo play? how is the red dage compare to other dps classes

[@ghynghyn4706]

Red damage is close to the top. Mariner is excellent for solo

[@AndyKnudsen]

Wait, the Red Line build is mostly Blue line?

[@ghynghyn4706]

Yes, because you need to get deep enough to get Marked Foes

[@rampant54]

I don't know how it ended up this way but I have Sludge Pot instead or Fire Pot. How do I change it to Fire Pot or return it?

[@ghynghyn4706]

You need the tracery - it will change the skill into fire pot.

[@rampant54]

@@ghynghyn4706 ah ok, thanks for the info :)

[@sifutg]

the blue and red lines look really close in dps, with blue having higher burst at the start, in which case blue would be better in situations where priority damage is important, can you show a parse using the yellow line?

[@ghynghyn4706]

It's hard to do a yellow parse, since the lunge skill is currently bugged and goes on a too long cd. The thing about red vs blue is that blue might get a little bit less value if there is a red captain in the group, since a lot of their buffs do not stack. Coordination will be needed in order to max out the potential of a blue mariner if you have a red capt in the group.

[@sifutg]

@@ghynghyn4706 i see, thats due to debilitating strike > lunge creating a fellowship maneuvere, speaking of FM are they still relevant in 2023?, i heard they stop being useful at 50

[@ghynghyn4706]

The current use of the FMs is typically to cancel some effects that monsters are induct-casting, but there has been talks among the devs that they want to possibly make FMs a thing again and maybe make them a bit faster or something@@sifutg

[@markdias5636]

Dude our rotation for Red.....usually you( In general those who make rotation guides) first lay out the complete rotation and explain why it fits the way it does. It was confusing you saying these 4 skills are your rotation.....but add this....but that.... I am nit picking because you said the rotation was static but you are describing a Priority or dynamic Rotation. To me static is a brain dead push these skills in this order rinse and repeat.

[@ghynghyn4706]

Maybe I worded it slightly wrong. I meant to say that the rotation is relatively easy to learn and relatively static in my opinion. You just need to learn how to input the filler skills.

[@markdias5636]

@@ghynghyn4706 I might have missed it but what do you suggest solo vs who will be allowed into groups.

[@ghynghyn4706]

What exactly do you mean? I think for solo play the rotation won't matter as much. You will still hit hard.@@markdias5636

[@markdias5636]

@@ghynghyn4706 For example. I love the Blue Line Loremaster, if i get allowed into a group they expect a Yellow Line Loremaster correct?I was just wondering if it were the same for Mariners.

[@ghynghyn4706]

RIght now it seems like blue might be the favoured line for higher tiers of raiding, and red is definitely also in contention here. Yellow Mariner will be more of a possible option for LM/Burg in raids in my opinion. Currently LMs are pretty much only yellow in raids, but the LM is due for a refresh real soon, so things might change there.@@markdias5636

[@quade3872]

Why bother with mariner when you can two shot mobs with BRAWLER

[@merickful]

The Mariner is good for holding the mob down while the brawler beats them down.

[@petroskhan]

I do loves me the Brawler, but...I do like the healing that the Mariner brings to the table. Damage is sort of close (not equal, at ALL), but close enough that combined with the healing I prefer Mariner. Barely.

[@Jesse-xz7br]

im way too stupid to follow this, gonna stick with 3 button classes

[@captainnero8632]

maybe next time make a 3 hour video, its not like people have a life

[@ghynghyn4706]

If you are struggling with the video length, there are chapters at the bottom to find what you need

[@runkorko]

They are not part of your rotation because you only play in grps with healer m8. So thats why your wiev is limited to raid and 6m . Its goo but far from enough. Sadly devs get the ide from ppl like you, so that why we have castrated class/ speaking of self sustain and healing. No blame, but its sad that we have only raid focused players as content creators. Thanks for the video. Liked

[@ghynghyn4706]

I'm a bit confused by this comment. Are you saying that the mariner is not good outside of group play?

[@runkorko]

@@ghynghyn4706 Thats what im saying. Because lack of range/ brawlers have more. Because lack of burst/ need to be build, and mostly because lack of selfhealing. The 2 you have you need to predict and build, same as your defensive skills. No delving videos. No pvmp videos, not a single challengind content video. Solo. You have conections. Test the class outside raids and pocket healers. Bring it to t10+ delving. Go to Moors with it. See the downsides, and tell the right ppl to provide the right changes. I rly hope you do.

[@Caerulean]

While he does have at least one dev in his Discord, I don't suppose we should assume he has "connections", no?

[@runkorko]

@@Caerulean asume? By conection i dont mean close ppl. I mean he have the power to show them that class isnt even close to finished /speaking about organised grp pve play. As said, il like to see him/ or anyone doing some pvmp or dificult solo content. t10-12 delvings, soloing old raids, performin OK in the moors outside blue line/ or without healer. I`m sure devs monitor his content more than forum.

[@ghynghyn4706]

@@runkorko I've played Mariner in Sagroth T5 and Gwath T4 so far, and I would say the class appears to be doing pretty well overall

[@Cytl-bu3nq]

You really need to reiterate that this is your opinion. while it may help people, not everyone will do things your way.

[@ghynghyn4706]

Pretty sure I do mention it a few times during the video

[@merickful]

It's mentioned multiple times and, in my opinion, it's a given. It is also my opinion that the content generated by Ghynghyn has a proven track record...and much of my lotro success is because of this channel. A good opinion that, of course, will be tailored by the individual for their individual needs. I'm also pretty sure Ghynghyn did not say anywhere at anytime that we had to do things this way.... On that note, if Ghynghyn DID say that, i would blindly follow to the nearest cliff and jump. 😂

[@globaladdict]

that's not really his problem. Basics are gonna basic. Just like in real life. Get a real degree, have kids, get a mortgage. It's a skill issue really lol

[@Grinningfartking6969]

This game is like 15 years old. There is only one way to play classes in this game. Sheesh

[@lockejessup]

Please get an example of something you believe they got wrong.

[@OFI_TV]

Worst MMORPG ever. I wish makers of ESO also make a LOTR one

[@petroskhan]

Then why are you watching a video about the latest update/class for the game? For example, I don't play WOW. I simply don't like the game. Same goes for GTA, Fortnite, and other games. And so I don't watch any videos about them, and I sure as HELL don't comment on the videos just to bash a game that others clearly enjoy.

[@OFI_TV]

Why?!? Because I am a huge LOTR fan. All books, Hurins', Silmarillion everything. And had a huge expectations and hope for this game. I played it until max level at 2016 or 2017. I had everything maxed. But everything was fail at that game. It was me who tried best to not to leave but instead get the max. The disgusting lag of the servers became worse until unplayable. No PVP functionality and everything, so it was a lot of time and huge disappointment. They should apologize from everyone for our money and our time. We spent our money and time for our love to LOTR and Middle Earth itself, not for that fail game. So thats why I am watching this video for maybe a hope of seeing totally radically changed game or maybe an apology from LOTR fans. I hope it helped your brain to understand why I exactly typed here. And BTW. After years I found a great MMORPG game. Maybe the best PVP and atmosphere one also. And most optimized and minimum lag. It was The Elder Scrolls Online I felt myself in Middle Earth. And with all my heart I believe only the makers of Elder Scrolls can make a perfect LOTR MMORPG game. So yeah. Thats why I wrote here. Now be a good boi, and join Daggerfall Covenant in Cyrodiil, against the other 2 alliances. Bye

[@equallyeasilyfuqyou]

One important thing when you get to soloing higher content is the heals you get from Feint -> Dodge and Check-Step -> Disengage

[@passingthefuckout]

Is there an updated guide?

[@ghynghyn4706]

This guide should be relatively up to date still.

[@passingthefuckout]

@@ghynghyn4706 thank you friend see you in middle earth!