Louis CK on Eyes Wide Shut

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6 ай бұрын

More thoughts from Louis CK on Stanley Kubrick's 1999 Christmas masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut.
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@PictureBoxPuppy 6 ай бұрын

It always makes me laugh when you post these because I remember Raanan constantly trying to talk over Louie. You can hear him trying to force his way into every single breath he takes.

@2009worstyearever 5 ай бұрын

thats one of the worst tendency of Louis CK interviews. Hes trying to do basically an essay on something he really loves and finds interesting and the other people are trying to inject banter because they find their own silence uncomfortable.

@waynedurning8717 6 ай бұрын

It’s better than he thinks. Kubrick is always surreal and in EWS he takes a surreal look at the conflict (and maybe hypocrisy) of polite society vs the complicated sexual deviance that is within all of us. And the individual battle of how far we’ll take it - how much do we need to indulge ourselves? And at what cost?

@watermelonlalala 5 ай бұрын

That's a completely imaginary interpretation of the movie.

@PalmliX 6 ай бұрын

Eyes wide shut is my favorite Kubrick movie and I think it's his masterpiece, though he had many of course. But there's something about this film that just holds me in a trance every time I watch it. The film is a dream and a nightmare and I think it manages to touch on one of the most misunderstood and complex (and dangerous) elements of the human psyche. Love Louis CK as well, just don't 100% agree with his take here, though he's not wrong on the small details, I think he misses the bigger picture.

@nikitamcconnell8027 6 ай бұрын

Some movies you get into more just because their language translates to yours. I really respect Clockwork Orange but I guess I miss the big picture, it doesn’t speak to me and yet it’s Kubrick’s renowned masterpiece. But I was literally shaking when watching Barry Lindon - and that’s not Kubrick’s major success. “Wide eyes shut” is probably my favorite Kubrick’s movie - the main protagonist relationship somehow speaks to me, the way Kubrick tells their story, their souls.

@mmkay32 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely totally agree, and you put it so eloquently. The film puts you into an ethereal, atmospheric, dreamlike state and that’s what I love so much about it, while also exploring the human condition of connection and relationships in such a transcendent way. My 4th favorite film all time, favorite Kubrick film as well and that’s saying something as i love them all pretty much.

@Mickey-1994 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say this is my favorite Kubrick movie but it's a great movie that gets better with age and never feels dated. Tom Cruise met give his best performance here.

@redadamearth 6 ай бұрын

It's his weakest film - but it's not entirely Kubrick's fault, as we've now learned that the film was completely re-edited after he died by Steven Spielberg, in consultation with Tom Cruise because it freaked the studio out. Cruise wasn't happy with it, the studio wasn't happy with it, etc. So they brought in Spielberg, who, in re-editing it, just GUTTED the movie of its harshest criticisms of the wealthy and a lot of allusions to a sex trafficking ring for the rich - which probably hit too close to home to some people at the top. That's why ALL through the movie, there are HINTS about a sex trafficking ring, but it's never actually talked about, so Kubrick's entire throughline of the movie was just REMOVED by the studio, Spielberg and Cruise and turned solely into a story about the Cruise character and his jealousies, with only the orgy at the end hinting at what Kubrick had actually shot. There ARE some great scenes in it, but it's just a mess because of this gutting of the film and a lot of that has to do with the fact that it's not Kubrick's vision for the movie, as he handed it in. There was a LOT of content and story that the studio had Spielberg and Cruise take out of it that would have made the film better - and a lot stronger - by some accounts, there's at least 22 minutes of the film that just "disappeared". This is why it just doesn't have that immaculate perfection of his other films in the editing and tone - because they just wrecked it in the re-edit after Kubrick died.

@nikitamcconnell8027 6 ай бұрын

@@redadamearth is that a fact or rumors? From what I heard, Kubrick finished editing - maybe a rough edit but still

@miguelangelcote9168 5 ай бұрын

I heavily disagree with the idea of Kubrick no longer being at his best with this movie, in fact I believe EWS would have been the start of a new phase in his career, he's more subtle without losing any of the mastery over his craft and if anything signals an even deeper dominion over it. Sadly we didn't got to see what was next

@chickenringNYC 2 ай бұрын

These videos are interesting but it's entirely OK to keep an open mind and remember that Louis CK is a mediocre comic who became really popular and then got me-too'd for jacking off in front of a bunch of women. I'm not sure we need to take his opinions on Kubrick as anything other than casual interest and curiosity.

@Mickey-1994 6 ай бұрын

I wish Kubrick would've lived longer but this was a great final movie that only gets better with age.

@davidcatlett4052 4 ай бұрын

Me as well. I wish he had done something quick and experimental in between each of his movies as well before he'd go on these years long odysseys to make a movie.

@van8ryan 6 ай бұрын

One movie Kubrick always wanted to do was Terry Southern's novel BLUE MOVIE, itself being Southern's critique on working with Kubrick, as the novel's about a director trying to revive his career by doing an adult movie using a celebrity couple as the leads. However, his wife Christine read Southern's book and said, "IF YOU MAKE THIS MOVIE, I'M LEAVING YOU." So he never made "BLUE MOVIE", but I think he always wanted to "TRY & EMULATE" the overall story of BLUE MOVIE, as even before Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman signed on to do the film, Kubrick offered it to Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger at some point.

@rustneversleeps85 6 ай бұрын

I suppose you have a source to back up these claims, especially the one about Kubrick's wife threatening to leave him over a movie, lol

@paulzenco6182 6 ай бұрын

Great movie, and to me it has lots of rewatchability value

@tccandler 6 ай бұрын

I love this description... and I love "Eyes Wide Shut".

@_bergflow 6 ай бұрын

Kubrick’s best and my all time fav.

@FutureBoy. 22 күн бұрын

Also my favourite Kubrick, although it took a quite a few viewings to get there.

@samwisegamgee1635 4 ай бұрын

Louis missed the most crucial part of the plot. The couple lets their daughter go with two old gentlemen at the end.

@ocelotsly5521 6 күн бұрын

The key to this film lies in both its title and in the source novel's title: 'Dream Novel'. If audiences can't accept they're watching some form of dream or trance-like experience, they're unlikely to enjoy the film.

@njchad 6 ай бұрын

I usually agree with Louis' film commentary, but I would have to disagree with his opinion of Kubrick "losing his grip of his tools" on this film. To me, this is one of his best, if not his best. It captures jealousy, and its complexities in a way I have never seen in another film before. The paranoia one can experience when assuming your significant other has thoughts about others, while you yourself are exploring, is spot on. What is real, what is paranoia, what is gaslighting - no one knows the answer, but there is something we need to do as soon as possible......(enter the last word of the flim)

@redadamearth 6 ай бұрын

CK was right. There is no man that exists in this world in a marriage, let alone a sophisticated, worldly *doctor*, who would lose his mind because his wife had a dream. lol It's absurd. lol The book that it's based on was written in the 1920's, when that would have made sense, as so many sexual longings were suppressed at the time - when the idea of a wife telling a husband she wanted to screw somebody else WOULD have been a big deal that sent the husband into a spiral - but the idea of the Cruise character, in the late 20th century, suddenly being SHOCKED! because his wife, who he's already had a long relationship with and kids, literally just has a dream or thought a guy was handsome - as if that had never happened in their entire relationship before lol - and didn't even cheat on him - and proceed to go NUTS over it, is just absolutely ridiculous. If a sophisticated doctor's wife told him she thought a guy she saw at a hotel was handsome, it would be a 30 second conversation and end with them laughing about it. lol And because of that, it makes the entire movie just non-functional as a story. If Kubrick had set it in the 1920's, during the period that the book was written, it would have made a LOT more sense and worked much better. That was Kubrick's mistake with the film: not setting in the '20's, when the book was written, when the story actually worked, in context with the times it was written in.

@tinderbox218 6 ай бұрын

The streets were mostly an amazing giant movie set.

@jamesburke4358 6 ай бұрын

The criticism is legit. But I was all-in day one on this movie, maybe for the reasons he states is why I love it. This is on my shortlist of pleasurable re-watchables. On one viewing I find the movie funny, and another time it's horrifying. Thinking, does the movie have it's own brand of 'stream of consciousness'? And to date we still can't verify how it was ACTUALLY made, and if it's his ACTUAL final cut despite what Harlan says. This film will always be an enigma. Walked out of opening weekend saying "this one will be around a while". A disgruntled full house complained in the lobby. Yet they were fixated and quiet the whole movie.

@jordanhyman9877 6 ай бұрын

Louie was having some trouble finishing sentences here.

@giggityguns123 5 ай бұрын

I have sat in many a comment section defending this movie as another Kubrick masterpiece, which is unfortunately tarnished by the narrative people want to force on the entire movie that its about EXPOSING the ELITES. No! Its ABOUT pride, perception, American culture, sexuality. Yes there is an element of a secret sex cabal, but ultimately the movie is interested in Bill’s engagement with it. Why should he excuse his desire to cheat on his wife in real life, while getting upset with Alice for desiring another man in her dreams; then, who’s to say dreams arent real life? Hence, “Eyes Wide Shut”

@jamesanthony9316 5 ай бұрын

Yeh well said especially when you read the novella - Dream Story - which it is adapted from. The movie is actually very faithful to the source material. All this extra textual conspiracy that people apply to this movie about elites and cabals of deviants says more about them than the movie in my opinion.

@watermelonlalala 5 ай бұрын

It's about the END of American culture. Christmas never comes. Yes, the whole movie leads up to a secret sex cult ritual, and then people disappearing, one by one. Bill has plenty of chances to cheat on his wife, but he never does. Alice stated that she would leave Bill and the child for another man if the naval officer wanted her. Hmm, wonder why that got Bill upset?

@poormanssoderbergh3914 6 ай бұрын

Nah Eyes Wide Shut is a masterpiece

@karenweston2714 6 ай бұрын

I know I love Louie but I disagree with him completely! But part of me wonders if he just wants his stuff back. So his response to the movie is probably the smart one.

@goldenage 5 ай бұрын

I consider it one of Kubrick's best films.

@TonyDucks89 6 ай бұрын

Louie is wrong here. This is one of Kubrick's best.

@gbh_events 4 ай бұрын

He needs to watch it more - it gets better when you watch it more - like all Kubrick movies.

@emmaread5505 6 ай бұрын

The NY streets don’t look right because Kubrick didn’t like flying so had New York sets built in London. That’s a set he’s walking on mostly and even one filmed with a projector

@NothingToPointOut24 6 ай бұрын

I hated EWS the first time I saw it. Now its one of my favorites movies especially to watch around this time of the year. This type of review makes me think Louie only saw it once and thats a big mistake with a movie like this. I think Kubrick wanted to get a lot of stuff off his chest in EWS. The dark undertones of the movie is what makes it a great film and creepy as hell. Kubrick either knew that a lot of the stuff portrayed in this movie is a reality for a lot the elites, or some people think this was a sort of confession from him. Either way you need to watch it a couple times to pick up a lot of the things that could've been missed the first time around. It took me a couple viewings and some research to realize the ending was darker than anyone could've imagined.

@jones2277 5 ай бұрын

He’s right. It’s really good

@watermelonlalala 5 ай бұрын

Hollywood has made a lot of movies not set in the town or nation it is supposed to be set in. I like to hear people complain, "It doesn't look like Greenwich Village!"

@pchinnIII 6 ай бұрын

Louis CK really broke that movie down in a very positive way. I made a comment about Kubrick never making a bad movie as I was thinking of all his movies. I had made Eyes Wide Shut a movie by someone else and eliminated it from a film made by Stanley Kubrick. Also I tried thinking that at some point down the road I would eventually appreciate Eyes Wide Shut. Nope!

@rustyshacklfur2637 4 ай бұрын

You have to really watch the movie over and over before you actually see it, at least i did. The color motifs are what i noticed first. There sre things that didnt make sense to me, or felt incomplete, but there may be an explanation. Supposedly there was a lot cut out, although it hasnt surfaced i could see it tying some ambigous parts together.

@playedout148 6 ай бұрын

Illuminati stuff all over this movie. Names of stores as Cruises character walks the streets, etc.

@watermelonlalala 5 ай бұрын

Have you seen that 33 degrees of Eyes Wide Shut web site? One of the streets Bill walks that has an authentic street name was named after an important Freemason.

@azureattorney 6 ай бұрын

As if Louis CK is giving a pyscho-sexual critique on EWS considering his sordid past...Also it's based on a novella which literally translates to 'Dream story' which he has missed here in order to go for cheap laughs and trashing a masterpiece he doesn't understand.

@rustneversleeps85 6 ай бұрын

His criticism is perfectly valid. Care to share what you 'understand' about it that he don't? At the end of the day, it's about Cruise crusing the streets trying and failing to cheat on his wife for admitting to having felt lust for an other man in the past. Oh my God, the horror! Are we do believe any of these are real issues a rich, upper-class couple would be facing with such traumatizing mental effects?? I refuse to believe Kubrick was this out-of-touch as the entire psychology of the characters and the film as a whole is laughable. It would only make sense if it was a parody. So plz do enlighten us..

@caseypark69 5 ай бұрын

I’ve only seen it once and laughed my way through it. It is absurd, stupid, and self indulgent.

@classiclife7204 5 ай бұрын

Props to Louis for daring to maintain the original perception that the movie wasn't very good. (EWS became a "masterpiece" 20 years after release.) It's not garbage or anything like that, but it's lower-tier Kubrick. He should have made it in the 60s, when he and Terry Southern first got the idea. Btw, who's the a-hole who keeps trying to interrupt Louis?

@De_liebste_un_beste_Mensch 6 ай бұрын

So this whole statement is basically nothing. Kubrick was weird. Ah yeah.

@BBAERSTANCE1 6 ай бұрын

I’ve never heard a worse review of a movie

@jimreplicant 6 ай бұрын

It wasn’t that bad, his critiques were kinda funny and his point in the end is that eyes is his least favorite kubrick film.

@tnreprasentog7769 6 ай бұрын

Kubrick died before the movie was finished... Yes, he had a "Finished" cut of the movie he showed to the studios and investers... He died or imo he was murdered... And then we got this movie which was most of the way Kubrick's, but I feel the Whole ritual orgy scene was kind of rushed in parts felt like it was missing some stuff and the ending was definitely just stuffed in there and the new editor just clapped his hands and said "Good enough for me!"... There are apparently between 20-30 minutes missing from the original Kubrick cut of the movie ...

@Fake_Robot 6 ай бұрын

The cheat sheet for understanding this movie is to watch the video “Kubrick and the illuminati” before re-watching. This movie is radical and confrontational in ways Louis doesn’t grasp.

@marknewbold2583 6 ай бұрын