Love Actually & the Hell Genre it Spawned

[@mothcub]

This is a REUPLOAD which removes Martin Freeman's bare torso from the video. Please do not age restrict this version I am begging.

[@jim_hawkins_blues]

Nooooo!

[@chaosvii]

Thank you for taking the money soap I loaned you and scrubbing this video clean. Feel free to keep it though, I have too many already 🧼 🫧 🧽

[@bookshelfhoney]

Not the male nipple, the most erotic nubbin!!

[@danielheflin6658]

Damn, that video was doing numbers too. Sad to see you done so dirty by youtube.

[@serse8455]

Those pesky censors!

[@lionelrowe617]

the implication of "her car must be brown because she likes to keep things natural and brown is the natural color of cars" is fucking destroying me

[@thomasstone3480]

so uh *leers* does the car match the drapes

[@lovers807]

It made me snort so hard cause I have my natural hair color (brown) also brown cars are not that common anymore what is this 1987??

[@gen1exe]

and when's the last time you saw a brown car? It's probably grey.

[@Ashethetics]

Most cars in the wild are brown, or black, or dark grey. They’ve evolved this way in nature to try and blend in to foliage and stuff. They’re kind of like rhinos, and elephants, they WILL charge if you get too close so be careful around them. Even captive bred cars can do it to be a dick and it can easily kill you 😢 🙏

[@tropezando]

Anyone looking at me on the weekends would assume I had an unwashed vehicle, then

[@AbbeeRambles]

My favorite thing about this movie is that the two children in love grew up to voice Ferb and Vanessa Doofenshmirtz, confirming that they are soulmates in every lifetime.

[@Sh12pen]

😂😂

[@mayas3422]

wait i never realized 😂😂

[@KatherinaBathory]

Wow! That's insane!

[@thandondlovu5392]

Your kidding I had no Idea 😲🤩🤩

[@kishinumaayumi]

Wait NO HAHAHAHAHAH OMG

[@jaycievictory8461]

There's an unbelievable number of male boss/female subordinate plotlines in this movie, too. It's really weird once you notice it

[@karinebrochu2698]

Why is it weird? I am pretty sure their is more male bosses than female bosses in the real world.

[@compout2]

​@@karinebrochu2698 they meant "male boss romantically involved with female subordinate" plots, not male bosses in general. and that is weird because boss/employee romance is frowned upon in the real world.

[@karinebrochu2698]

@@compout2 It might be frowned up, but it`s so common

[@august1451]

​​​​@@karinebrochu2698 yeah but the point is that these much older men face zero consequences for getting with their employees (young girls who literally depend on them to be able to pay rent & EAT). Even when in doing so, they're cheating on a DIFFERENT woman! And in fact, the narrative portrays the female subordinate as the one in the wrong (e.g. the Alan Rickman plot), with her as some devilish seductress, and him a "helpless fool" who simply can't control himself. It's not about realism, it's about the message the movie sends about how these things should be viewed in REAL life. It'd be one thing if these choices were punished by the narrative or had any consequences whatsoever, but they don't, and in some cases (e.g. the literal prime minister & a newbie intern) is actively romanticised/ends happily for them both. It's just tone deaf & a bit irresponsible.

[@opheliarosewood7847]

@@karinebrochu2698 It would be weird if it was also a bunch of stories about female bosses and their male subordinates. It's strange to have so many stories be about relationships that start with a power imbalance. It also doesn't help that because it IS male bosses, I can't help but think about how many male bosses I know in real life who were creeps.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

as an american who has only ever heard the name of the movie, the "amweica don't bully us we did harry potter >:c" only to be followed up with "american women are canonically easy" hit me like a freight train

[@eos_aurora]

You just don’t get it, their accents are just SO hot that it casts Harry Potter magic to get into their pants

[@haley5735]

weren't those women sex workers taking advantage of him? i totally didn't understand that plotline as a kid

[@Ailacatailu]

@@haley5735just a straight male wish fulfillment I thought? Otherwise they should’ve had a scene where they charge him or take his wallet

[@AbiElectric]

​@@haley5735it's so dumb. 3 gorgeous women living on 1 bed and can't afford pyjamas and are attracted to this troll just because he has an English accent.

[@xxxxOS]

English Hollywood always attacks everyone other than England. Especially Scotland. England Hollywood hates Scotland. Always taking pot shots. They can't help themselves. Insecurity

[@ghostghostghostghostghost85]

I fully read the Emma Thompson epilogue scene as them co parenting and trying to remain civil in front of their kids but distinctly divorced/seperated

[@SuziQ.]

Same.

[@bethanychatman9531]

I never thought of that. Hmmm...all i thought it was, was her settling and staying with that ass.

[@pollyd5808]

i think it is. if they wanted to show them getting back together it would’ve been dramatic. her vibe the entire film was restrained/repressed, civil and polite and the epilogue is exactly how i’d imagine her character acting towards a separated spouse

[@_b_e_a_n_s_]

Same. that final scene in the airport didn't seem to me as "oh they moved on and stayed together". Emma's character honestly doesn't look happy at all, she's civil but it's not like she's happy to see him again or anything

[@Jojo-k8b]

Same

[@insertfunnynamehere1673]

I gotta say, Emma Thompson and Alan Rickman read as very divorced to me in the last scene of the movie. They're picking him up from the airport! Clearly he's in town to see the kids. Their body language throughout that scene exactly matches the body language between my parents whenever they had to interact (and couldn't be seen screaming at each other)

[@mothcub]

I know you pretty much just mean separated, but they can't be divorced in the time frame that these events happen so on this technicality I reign supreme as the great Love Actually interpretive mind genius

[@zoel3704]

I agree I thought they were separated for sure. But my mom who is divorced thought they were still together so maybe it’s up to interpretation. I’d hope they’re separated.

[@tarag2705]

I was about to comment this! I had always assumed that they were divorced by the end of the movie. I will forever be sad if that wasn’t the case.

[@collegeoffoliage6776]

​@@mothcubyeah that particular take was just mind-boglingly stupid. They are very clearly unhappy at the end of the film, and the point is that relationships are messy and sometimes people stay together even when they are unhappy. We don't know if they end up working through it or not.

[@doubleh333lix]

i thought it was purposefully up to interpretation because of that scene.

[@littlerelief]

Thank you for taking down that cruel, cruel subplot about the woman with the mentally ill brother and how that meant she could never find love or even have a single night of passion with her work crush. If I can overshare for a moment - I was recently out of the psych ward when I went to see Love Actually with a friend of mine and that scene made me absolutely break down because it awakened all these massive awful fears in me that my sibling would wind up in a similar situation with me one day. Totally ridiculous, of course, she's happily married and super successful AND if she ever did need to become my main support person, none of those things would change as a result. But I was young and vulnerable and didn't have the life experience to laugh that plotline off back then, so it really cut deep. I so appreciate the visceral satisfaction you gave me by pulling no punches when explaining how godawful it is.

[@mothcub]

Aww I'm so sorry. I'm so glad you were able to feel better about this in the end! Sending my love right to you direct from the heart ❤️

[@taylor3950]

They had the perfect opportunity for the work crush to join in the caretaking. Instead they made it her sole lonely burden for literally no reason other than melodrama. I’m glad you’re feeling better about it too

[@catabat49654]

I had a similar breakdown the first time I saw this film (I was like 19 or 20), but from the Laura Linney’s character’s perspective. My brother is autistic, he’s semi-independent but on my folks’ health insurance and also on social security. The idea that I would constantly have to put my life on hold to make sure he’s taken care of when my parents die and wouldn’t be able to engage in love and life fully terrified and haunted me for YEARS. I’ve now set boundaries and worked with my folks so that when they die he’s in good hands (and I’ll be there to assist), but yeah, fuck you Love Actually for making people with mental illness/disabilities and their siblings believe that they would burden each other forever and neither of them are deserving of romantic love 🖕

[@littlerelief]

@@catabat49654 Thank you for sharing this! I've always guiltily felt like it was an overreaction on my part but that storyline really is toxic. It sneaks up on you because there's never any better reason given for why that has to end EVERYTHING between them - I'd even be happy with a scene where she's with friends or something and they say "wow screw him, if he wants someone with literally no other priorities then he's gonna be alone forever" or just SOMETHING that doesn't treat the story as inevitable.

[@fizzydrinkuno]

My maternal grandma lived with us for most of my childhood. She had an aneurysm when my mom was a kid. Both of them would have fights that when she died it sent my mom in a depressive spiral that almost escalated in martial disputes. I know that this scene would have sent her into a breakdown too and I make it a point to never mention films like these for this reason. Its awful on its own, but its downright disgusting when it hits home.

[@KatherineAcosta20]

I also hate children romances, I feel like I’m being one of those weirdo moms at the park pairing up kids just because they’re playing together

[@HoneybeeAwning]

THANK YOU!!!

[@Burkutace27]

Why can't they ship fictional characters like normal weirdos?

[@eos_aurora]

I couldn’t enjoy Ponyo for this reason

[@bettyunicorn6132]

@@eos_aurora To me Ponyo is pretty obviously platonic. I say I love you to my cat sometimes.

[@eos_aurora]

@@bettyunicorn6132 there’s literally a magical kiss

[@renalanf0rd]

the UK “just a lil guy” speech is crazy considering how they fucking still have colonies everywhere

[@sophiewildee]

where exactly is a colony of the uk in 2024?

[@amateurmagician]

​@@sophiewildeeanguilla, bermuda, british virgin islands, falkland islands (there was a whole war about whose colony that one was in 1982), pitcairn, tristan da cunha, cayman islands. this just off the top of my head, there are more. also depending on op's opinion, the commonwealth could also be considered a form of colonization.

[@mothcub]

Not many people know that he is quoting Queen Victoria verbatim (she had a vision of Dobby, a bit like in That's So Raven).

[@sophiewildee]

@@amateurmagician i disagree that an overseas territory that has full governance of itself could be considered a colony. that violates the definition of ‘colony’ imo. i would also disagree that the commonwealth is a form of colonialism. it is a consequence of colonialism but countries can leave (and have) if their governments want to. that’s why you see countries that were colonised by france or belgium joining the commonwealth but you don’t see former british colonies joining the african franc. there’s mutual benefit to (for example) india and britain keeping good diplomatic relations which is why an economic powerhouse like india hasn’t left the commonwealth. an indian citizen living in the uk gets the right to vote immediately due to commonwealth membership whereas a european or american would have to wait until they had uk citizenship. i think it’s a bit condescending to act like a country with one of the top 5 gdps in the world is somehow the uk’s whipping boy in this day and age and can’t act of its own accord. what would narendra modi gain from opting in to a union that only benefitted britain? not votes i don’t think.

[@amateurmagician]

@@sophiewildee ok

[@sabrecellist]

It's pretty bizarre to start a movie using an American national tragedy to prove love exists, but then even weirder to then have the British PM to defend his love by dissing the US.

[@NineToFiveGamerUC0079]

I bet it was done on purpose

[@rattyeely]

Hate Actually

[@amandawoods3244]

I clocked that too and it irked the sh*t outta me

[@cranberryrosebud]

"This terr0rist attack seems bad on the surface, but it actually just proved love is real, also I hate America cuz they didn't invent Harry Potter" So America took one for the team to prove love exists, but they still lose because their pop culture is soggy and gross and doesn't involve wizardry. A weird thesis, but alrighty.

[@floodgates182]

The Brits are still mad you stole their empire. Everyone hates the US, and it's not because of your "freedom", guys!

[@cal6137]

Once a philosophy prof who I disliked said he hates this movie so I watched it out of spite. And he was right. But I'll watch anything Colin Firth is in

[@mothcub]

Real and true

[@bookshelfhoney]

Even a broken philosophy prof is right twice a day (when he brings up that this movie is bad)

[@gabestewart2278]

I remember my friend and I were watching the Andrew Lincoln storyline thinking he was a dick to Kiera Knightley out of jealousy because he was in love with his best friend, but no, he was actually in love with Kiera Knightley and was just being a dick to her because he couldn't have her. We decided to stop the movie.

[@morganqorishchi8181]

Your idea is the infinitely better version.

[@quasalor1480]

This was also what I thought.

[@nowayjose596]

I think people are forgetting that Laura Linney's character directly asks Lincoln if he's in love with Ejiofor near the beginning of the movie, so this "misdirection" was intentional on the filmmaker's part.

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

That's not how it was, though. He said it himself: It's self-preservation.

[@fleetwoodmak777]

@@VicenteTorresAliasVitsso you take it out on someone else? weird.

[@toomanygoblins5914]

Gotta love PM Hugh Grant declaring war on the USA like he just stepped out of a time machine from 1812

[@andrewcapra7153]

And then like half of the remaining movie is still about how unreasonably horny the british scriptwriters are for american women anyways 😂

[@kitwhitfield7169]

In fairness, this was a response to Blair letting Bush drag the UK into an illegal war, so it wasn’t out of nowhere. It’s just a pity it was divorced from any actual principle.

[@9eishitasharma501]

And you know damn well that they would genuinely lose so bad that it might destroy the uk as a whole💀

[@Lucifronz]

@@9eishitasharma501 It would be disastrous. The rest of the European Union (of which they are no longer a part) relies heavily on America as a sort of enforcer due to their (our) extremely high military spending. Saying that America is "no longer our friend" is extremely stupid just because the president is a sleazeball who licked your potty-mouthed crush's ear.

[@TheJunmengo]

​@@9eishitasharma501are you 12 ? Or Donald Trump There's no "winning" in a war among Nuclear Superpowers

[@merri-toddwebster2473]

For me the worst thing about this movie is Alan Rickman cheating on Emma Thompson, and the second worst is the expectation that anyone would look at another man twice, let alone smooch him, if they had Chiwetl Ejiofor for a spouse.

[@gonnacry442]

Ong 🗣🗣🗣

[@alexx5064]

louder for the lobstah in the back

[@HoneybeeAwning]

Also the fact that all the men get their way and Laura Linney ends up alone when her connection with coworker was the most genuine one and not icky one so she gets punished for that.

[@desmond107]

Alan Rickman cheating on Emma Thompson was the most realistic and most memorable thing about this movie, it´s also a masterclass in acting. Movies aren´t supposed to be exclusively about happy, non-problematic things

[@Ranixo286]

​@@desmond107The acting IS good and the plotline can work, it's just Love Actually doesn't develop it well enough because of the framing and constant boot licking of England being more important.

[@sammosaurusrex]

I like this movie for a lot of reasons which I refuse to admit are just “nostalgia,” but it has some of the most heinous examples of “and then everyone clapped” in the history of cinema.

[@erinyes3943]

I’m with you there. I could never hate it, but do have to cover my eyes sometimes

[@luiysia]

it's wild to remember that those types of moments were once used completely unironically

[@Lucifronz]

I can't comprehend liking it, but I'll try to withhold judgment. But you're absolutely right about that. Never really put it under that specific lens until now, but it fits.

[@DrPeacemakerX]

I once tried watching this movie with my family. We were so bored after 10 minutes that we switched to watching Lucy, the movie where Scarlet Johansson uses 100% of her brain. That's how desperate we were.

[@roecocoa]

Lucy is a lot of fun.

[@jesustovar2549]

Maybe it's not your type of movie, but hey, Lucy is a extremely entertaining film, even if using 100% of the brain dosen't make sense, (SPOILER: she just became a computer), but I still consider Luc Besson to be a terrific director.

[@yeskaitlyn8029]

i loooved lucy when i first saw it

[@monochromedream-eatingbaku]

Controversial opinion but Lucy is a film I actually enjoy, even if it has some... obvious flaws. Honestly I think I'm more willing to accept using 100 % of the brain due to drugs than I am willing to stare at ScarJo for over an hour.

[@mosquitopyjamas9048]

Lucy is Kind fun tho

[@roosterboots4684]

Finally, I can watch this without all the footage of fatal car accidents you had playing in the background

[@mothcub]

No one understands my artistic vision

[@vaclav4435]

@@mothcub David Cronenberg might!

[@deadfr0g]

“This film is a complete trainwreck, and you have no idea how hard it was to get that footage!”

[@sacrificiallamb4568]

@@vaclav4435 And the writer of the book Crash.

[@flixelgato1288]

Where can I find that version?

[@jurgnobs1308]

I think Keira Knightley is just an incredibly bad kisser. one kiss from her and the crush that was strong enough to risk it all is just gone.

[@toxicstarbot6701]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Colleague, you have analyzed & described this arc to the end almost perfectly. I believe your conclusion is close to the truth but I humbly disagree with only one element of your head-hypothesis: the film explicitly establishes The Zombie Hunting Cop Guy does not like Banoffee Pie. As he declines another sweet within the scene, we might infer he doesn't have a taste for sweets or perhaps is just uninterested in toffee-based foods. As his scene partner, Kiera Knightly demonstrates her intense ecstasy while devouring the refused Banoffee Pie as soon as Grimy Rick declines. She retains possession of the formerly proffered candy bar that was also refused (Rampage? I'm Canadian sorry) instead of leaving it behind. But he only indicated disliking Banoffee Pie, he simply turned town the other sweet. Maybe he'd eat a Rampage later? Yet Bend It Like Beckham didn't just tuck it subtly on a side table for Sad Post-Apocalypse Dad Dude to discover after she left. Her character seems generous (she offered him treats she loves), fun, & spontaneous, so I think if it was anything but a sweet, she'd have discreetly left it for him, all cute like. But the Third Best Elizabeth Bennett must always have a couple treats handy, in her bag or pocket; she is the larval form of the Grannie with a purse full of Werther's. Therefore I conclude with everything in your thesis except for the culprit. I propose, instead or in addition to your conclusion of "bad kissing": Banoffee Pie Breath.

[@rootedinland6823]

Women as prizes is the synopsis of this movie. Emma Thompson is an old mom so she isn't a prize to be won and flatter the man's ego anymore. This movie is just yikes all around.

[@NineToFiveGamerUC0079]

It's from another time. These conversations would be Easier to ha e if people stopped acting like men aren't people or something. A lot of us hate media like this as well. Also there's nothing wrong with gender's ego being stroked especially if it's in moderation. We need to move away from demonizing everything involving men.

[@gem9535]

@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079You heard “Let’s stop degrading women” as “let’s demonize men!” You are 1000% the problem.

[@blahblahblahblah729]

​@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 "it's from another time" 2003 isn't fucking 19th century, what are you talking about?

[@Vesperad0]

​@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079why the hell would anybody need their "gender ego" stroked. Quickly, explicitly. Because that just seems like a wild justification for misogyny draped in the guise of "love". Especially when the only love that is really centered is sexual and/or romantic, not of family or friends or of your community. And as others have already said, bro, 2003 was not 23 bce. It may not have been popular, hell I'm confident in guessing any kind of feminist beliefs or negative feelings towards this movie was looked down on/shunned, but it definitely still existed nonetheless. These kinds of stories don't exist within a bubble with no actions in reality leading up to them. But also, can we please stop acting like something being 10+ years from now (which ofc is relative to the current year, not 2024 by itself) means any weirdness, backwards social commentary, or straight up bigotry is excusable? I don't think there's any prominent racism in this movie but when you're making the same excuses people make to justify blackface in say, a 1960s book/movie, you've screwed up somewhere. Probably when you claimed a year only 21 years ago was ancient, and therefore free from modern day judgement. It's not like they didn't know any better. People have always known better when it came to social issues, maybe not wealth or wars or disease but this definitely. What matters is if these people do anything about it, even just questioning what's socially acceptable for the time. Low-key sexism doesn't get a pass just because it was 2003, if it was 2003 sexism wouldn't get a pass just because it came from 1982, and if it was 2045 sexism from now wouldn't get a pass. Please stop justifying social issues through the passage of time.

[@themetalchica]

​@@blahblahblahblah729 I am not in any way involved w this other than to say 2003 was over 20 years ago, meaning EVERYTHING has changed. In the immediate years ensuing 9/11, everyone was traumatized and no one wanted to watch one more thing about war, meanness, violence, etc. It was too damn soon. We took down Hussein that spring and reveled in it: we were still in a dark, dark place. The entertainment industry was scared of a lot of topics and genres. This movie is what it is, but you cannot deny that it has been classified classic--and that it sure as hell gave millions of people a much-needed emotional outlet. If you weren't alive then, I can't explain it any better, but that's what 2003 was like. It was awful.

[@cactuspeach2517]

I was so deeply upset when the original disappered, can't believe martin freeman's bare torso would betray you like that >:(

[@Justice4Raditz]

martin freeman's torso needs to send mothcub a check for lost revenue

[@LifesNeverHumDrum]

I can

[@dustbowldance6365]

It's worse: love actually has taken over non English movies too. In Poland almost all 'romantic' comedies follow love actually. For the past two decades or so.

[@adriannakulis]

I can't stand the thousand parts of the cursed Listy do M

[@guodaripinskaite6314]

Damn. Idk how it is in Lithuania, since i admit i don’t watch our still horribly lacking baby cinema, but ive seen a couple examples throughout the years and i’m afraid it’s similar over here, regarding romantic movie genre It’s just tgat i think horrible comedies about dumb guys winning a lottery are more popular here

[@morganqorishchi8181]

The Polish people are going through hard times the likes of which the rest of us cannot imagine. Y'all are suffering over there in silence. My prayers go out to Poland in these dark days.

[@360shadowmoon]

Oh no

[@as4180]

is the love in the room with us right now

[@alexx5064]

maybe it was the maids we purchased along the way?

[@pissmast3r]

Y'all just try so hard to not like things

[@Lucifronz]

I'll ask my secretary who I've coerced into a romantic relationship with the promise of a more secure financial future.

[@panielrosebud]

i loved this wholeheartedly because i just clicked for context and there was so little intro and so much burning hatred off the bat that i just sat down and listened? even though i have stuff to do? beautiful.

[@mothcub]

hahaha thank you

[@KyleRayner12]

I 100% agree about Billy Mack's being the only genuine-feeling storyline. It's also really not a coincidence that it's the only plotline that deals with platonic love rather than romantic or sexual. I kind of got the sense watching it that because our culture doesn't value or pay attention to that kind of love, there's less room for bullsh*t tropes to ruin it.

[@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836]

It is actually romantic, though also based on friendship

[@silvercoronet]

To be fair, while there was romance involved, Thomas Brodie-Sangster and Liam Neeson's plot was more about familial love

[@red_calla_lily]

And what do these two platonic(?) friends do? Drink and watch p***, so they can bond over the objectification of (presumably) women. Of course, it's very in character for him, but still - it's sad they managed to ruin this sweet little moment by backtracking immediately. It's as if they needed to refute the slightest allegation that these two characters possess unmanly, "gay" emotions. It's a movie about love, whose authors are afraid of showing love without making a joke of it.

[@linoonehat1392]

There's also the familial love that comes from the boy and his step-father being their for each other after the loss of the person that originally brought them together, they boy's mom. There are so many different types of love besides romantic or sexual. familial and platonic are just as prevalent. They just aren't usually considered new or exciting like the vastly overplayed romance.

[@geeker6350]

'Love Actually is a work of pure dark evil'. Thank God, somebody finally said it.

[@scottybritish]

Yes! Been trying to say this for yrs.

[@MosesSuppose]

Thank goodness someone finally thought of the children and removed that man’s bare torso. Just kidding, I’m sorry you had to deal with this BS on such a banger of a video. I’ll watch again and like for the algo!

[@mothcub]

Thank you! I'm just glad people liked it at least 🥲👍

[@eos_aurora]

@@mothcub it’s a good video both with and without the middies (man tiddies)

[@nbDeal985]

Finally I can learn to loathe Love Actuallys without being subjected to smut and filth

[@Chronoplague]

4:17 "Oh, poor widdow Engwand. We're just a liddle countwy. Evewyone wants to tell us what to do. We just want to keep to ouwselves. We've never done a cowonisation. All we have is Hawwy Podder."

[@maydaymemer4660]

"why didnt boss baby bring up the evils of capitalism" type motherucker

[@bebebonb0n]

"All we have is Hawwy Podder" oh boy, like that is going to save their asses :/ My favorite book series written by an terf

[@eos_aurora]

@@maydaymemer4660 you’re so right, that’s so the same thing, good job finding two similar things to compare, they are very similar and the same 👏🏻

[@Lucifronz]

This comment really highlights how absurd the prime minister speech is in this film. Also it's hilarious.

[@ragingdevi]

👉👈👉👈👉👈

[@JamsandTea]

Fun fact: this is my dad’s favorite movie Also fun fact: he is a serial cheater and compulsive liar lmao

[@9eishitasharma501]

On the contrary my dad loathes this movie because of the corny 9/11 scene. He worked in the world trade and he immediately shut the movie off after that lol.

[@1-eye-willy]

professor snape buying jewelry from mr beene is too surreal to take seriously at 10:45

[@stephjovi]

try being Austrian and remember that Heike Makatsch the recipeint of the necklace as early 2000"s girly vJane on a german Music tv channel. 😹

[@Lasopamuerte]

Mr “Beene” I’m crying

[@luiysia]

i watched this in high school and that's literally the only part i remembered bc there were way too many characters and i got so bored

[@Bananaism99]

I don't think Alan Rickman and Emma Thompson (character names I cannot remember) stay together in the end, he clearly goes away somewhere and they awkwardly cheek kiss like people who are affectionate but not intimate with each other. Maybe they're staying amicable for the kid's sake?

[@mothcub]

They told me they're still together 40 years later

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

​@mothcub either way, I think the fact that this comments section is so split between "they're obviously still together" and "they're obviously not together anymore" demonstrates the movie's failure to actually conclude that plot. like there's straight up a scene missing. (also does the follow-up short just skip that plot, or is it still ambiguous there?)

[@HotCrossJuns]

44:03 The best part about Shawn Spencer thanking Monet for painting lily pads instead of dead carp is that Monet actually painted dead fish. He has a painting called "Red Mullets" hanging in the Harvard Art Museum.

[@NumberOneCheeseFiend]

Thank you for addressing the fact that that is Shawn Spencer of the SBPD, it’s all i could think about…

[@TenderNoodle]

Reminds me of that romantic era painter who was like half responsible for the genre who did a honestly worrying amount of still life’s with bloody, decomposing body part

[@autumntaylor2533]

If i was stuck with the creepy photographer guy in the elevator, I'd be in prison

[@b.rogers8452]

Knowing only about Love Actually from "Love Actually Characters Drawn as Dark Souls Bosses" this provided some much needed insight into that fever dream

[@risacooper]

I went "is that a drawfee video?" and lo and behold, it is!

[@oswald2286]

gotta appreciate how even in that video you can still manage to gleam how strange the plotlines of this movie are?? like jacobs drawing of mark being solely about his obsession w kiera knightly and the prime minister being weird and twofaced

[@happytofu5]

@@risacooper omg I havent watched that one yet, what a find!

[@rileyrosser2977]

I genuinely hadn't noticed that the women in love actually all end up sad and the men all get happy endings. what's up with that? also i think that the emma watson plot is the only redeeming plot, not because it's particularly well-written or well handled, but purely because thompson does such a beautiful piece of acting when she opens the present and has to look happy about it, and then puts herself back together after her meltdown so she doesn't ruin xmas for her children. i agree with you though that the plot point of her deciding to stay, "knowing life would always be a little be worse" wasn't treated with the reapect it deserved. similarly, i always really liked liam neeson doing his best to be a good single step-dad while dealing with his own grief, but he defs shouldn't have encouraged it as much as he did, DEFINITELY not bypassing airport security in a world which the opening monologue confirms takes place post 9/11. thats a wild thing to let ur child do!!

[@mothcub]

Liam Neeson craves chaos

[@emisformaker]

@@mothcub He does have a particular set of skills

[@sammosaurusrex]

My mother literally never forgave Alan Rickman for this plot. The actor. Every time we’d watch the movie, she’d curse at him and say “I’ll never forgive you for what you did to Emma Thompson…” This is not a joke or irony, this is just how great my mom is. That’s why it’s my favorite subplot. My critical thinking goes out the window when it comes to schlock I watched with my family as a kid lmao.

[@sammosaurusrex]

Also yeah, I think the thing I liked about that scene/subplot was that it was real. Maybe our generation is more into “marriage is a bourgeois prison” and just feels like “why the fuck would she stay,” but it definitely resonates with my emotionally repressed waspy upbringing (unhealthy). People staying together because they were married, and that meant something. Emma Thompson’s plot is that she keeps the marriage, but the marriage is shit, which is raw and real, and she still has love for her kids. Same with that lady who in the end finds love with her brother. It’s dumb, but the point was that even when life cuts you a raw deal, love is still there, even if it’s the love between you and an unwell relative. There’s love in the in-patient facility. It’s trash, but it’s trash I have affection for

[@Octobris]

Emma Watson plot? 😉

[@chalmersmathew4831]

Wow i cant believe the British can love. This is more shocking than when I first saw Martin Freeman’s bare torso. Subscribed!

[@Ibis_W0lfie]

The subplot with the disabled brother feels really off to me because the brother does NOT have stop them from getting together, but he somehow does anyway as if saying disabled people will always burden those around them

[@cornflakes-does-stuff]

Finally the good clean christian version that me and the whole family can enjoy! jokes aside I'm sorry you had to reupload, it's a very good video, will watch again, and I'm so so glad you started doing video essays, I love your line delivery and the little drawings!!

[@mothcub]

Thank you so much! I appreciate it 💕

[@justawatchin2]

Bill Nighy's awkwardness and body motion in the "it might be that the people that i love..." line is one of my favorite things.

[@noheterotho179]

I'm crying, your ballad for the bigoted parents is going to be in my head forever now.. First video I've seen from this channel and its a very strong one

[@mothcub]

I'd estimate about 57% of my audience needs to hear a little song to really understand what I'm saying.

[@gen1exe]

This is the hot take I needed. 2 relationships with problematic employer-employee dynamics, 1 dude who goes to America and has a lot of sex, several doomed crushes, 1 marriage falling apart...

[@shaymiana2356]

I think.they are actually 3 employer-employee relationships

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

​@@shaymiana2356gotta love how the only one that doesn't work out is the one with the smallest power gap between the participants

[@360shadowmoon]

@@shaymiana2356 Yep: 1) Colin Firth's character; 2) Hugh Grant's character; 3) Alan Rickman' character

[@mathieuleader8601]

this film is a labour of loathe you might say

[@brycedumas59]

Loathe actually IS all around

[@morganqorishchi8181]

Sometimes I read something and get jealous I didn't write it. This is one of those times.

[@CHiCguitar]

"I'm gay and I'm gonna play" is too good. TOO GOOD

[@voxistaken]

that line has been stuck in my head for over ten years that’s how good it is lol

[@Moonstar79]

How did I never know that Taylor Twilight and Taylor Popstar were in a movie together as LOVE INTERESTS I can't

[@idontevenhaveapla7224]

Look up Taylor Lautner's wife's name

[@JakeFish5058]

​@@idontevenhaveapla7224 Mrs Lautner??? :0 they have the same name???

[@gabrielapetrilli9852]

@@idontevenhaveapla7224 lol. They’re first initials spell T&T

[@taylorsilly77]

finally i can watch this without having to skip that SCANDALOUS bare torso clip... thank u utube uve saved me again

[@entertain7us148]

It’s truly less about love then it is about (specifically MALE) lust and unwanted advances.

[@red_calla_lily]

It's a male fantasy about unwanted advances being actually wanted by the women. Every breach of boundaries (even those in a literal airport) is rewarded by some positive reaction (kiss, sex, whatever).

[@Lenka18s]

OMFG, I have completely forgotten about that Britney Spears' joke. She was 21-22 when the movie was made - to put things into perspective. And it was during the time of the biggest media frenzy and right after Justin Timberlake released his character assasination of "Cry me a river", so everybody thought what a harlot Britney was.

[@fatheroftherealm]

Yeah, that line is so disgusting and uncomfortable.

[@thesleepydot]

i was just thinking about how unnecessary and slimey that was….

[@catasrophieGrrl]

Kendrick taught me that I don't commit to actually hating someone well enough. The art of pettiness. And the start of this video taught me that if I was on a plane going down, I could make a call to just remind someone I never liked them.

[@bisboptheclown]

i love this video and how advertiser friendly it is personally thats my fav thing about it happy happy joy

[@chaosvii]

My appreciation for this vid is also proportional to how convenient it fits into commerce.

[@mosquitopyjamas9048]

Ren and Stimpy ref?

[@AtlasBlizzard]

I like romantic movies, but Love Actually is just... bizarre. I get no spirit or belief of love from it. Like, I can't believe it's lauded as a classic and a supposed must-watch for Christmas.

[@HelplessFangirl]

My mom adores this movie and tried to show it to me as a teenager. She should have waited a few years so I would have known to hold back my criticisms.

[@thisguyducky]

Love is everywhere, and it is a lovecraftian force that demands submission to its will. There is no escape. And soon madness follows.

[@r.p.w.1312]

Very good video and I agree with almost all of it, but outside the weird thematic context of the film I like the Emma Thompson plot I think it’s sad and a bit poignant that she says ‘would you stay knowing it would always be a bit worse’ and then clearly she does decide to do that and it’s always a bit worse. But the movie is bad and clearly doesn’t like women or want them to be happy.

[@mothcub]

Yes! I do like that, I just feel like the movie doesn't know where to put it or what to do with it, so it feels rushed there at the end (partly a consequence of the sheer density of different threads), but you're so right.

[@malicemacey]

I always thought the end was after they had broken up. The love 'actually' was their shared love of their children

[@RPWhitworth]

"A thoughtless ode to cruelty" is so poetic I can't handle it

[@stevielove4778]

..Kierra was only 17 during the filming. SEVENTEEN! She had to leave high-school! … ‘s a true mystery why we have a warped perception of beauty and aging.. ((not to mention the sexualization of high-schoolers!)) Lol it fked me up when I learned that. [The actors portraying her ‘love interests’ were 29 and 26].

[@pcarebear1]

Never could get on the Notting Hill/ Love Actually bandwagon. Glad to know I'm not considered "weird" anymore, I found my tribe😂

[@neromillie]

The cringe is intense

[@malicemacey]

The thing is even though i can objectively find Notting Hill cringe, in reality i still watch it every couple of years because of the nostalgia and that enjoyment i felt watching it first time around

[@alisaurus4224]

I sincerely enjoy Notting Hill. I hate-watch Love Actually (Edit: spelling)

[@Todesnuss]

Nobody can convince me Patrick Stewart knew what he was signing up with Mormon love actually. He didn't even interact with the rest of the cast. They so duped him into this.

[@HalfWarmedFish]

I think a lot of the cast could have been duped into it or maybe guilt tripped/had a favor called in. One of the producers was Larry King, who was very proudly Jewish...it's so weird to see his name on an LDS movie that grossed ~90k

[@mayas3422]

USAmerican here never put together that the swearing was a way to signal class which. makes the PM plot even more grimy imo. god why is this movie Like This

[@crazyanimals832]

25:51 "da shcity of new york bay-bee!" made me instantly sub lol. love your video and all the perfectly timed cuts, excited to watch the rest

[@mothcub]

thank you!! truly nothing gives me more joy than saying NEW YOIK CITY

[@keirhardy6470]

This is almost word for word the rant my brother launches into every single time this movie is vaugely mentioned, very fun i will be sending it to him. Also poor Bill Neighy no man can resist Rab C Nesbitt yet he paradoxically cannot be contained by such things.

[@scottybritish]

I like your brother.

[@mythomaniac-gremlin]

I found the elevator Christmas love actually fascinating, because it communicates such a bizarre relationship with god. I'd like to preface that I'm Jewish and obviously have a few different ideas compared to Christianity- but I think its really something else to have this sense of total interpersonal isolation. To have all these people seem totally disconnected from each other, and to simultaneously focus on G-d as an abstract being that is entirely unknowable but craves or even demands reverence- I really like how you frame that last longing scene in this movie, this sad little angel man who simply cannot follow the people he's been speaking to, how he's spent his time with them not connecting through any literal means but through a script he's presenting on paintings analogous to the divine- his words and thoughts seem so empty, so hollow that they don't offer perspective on a work you can see but dictation on an imaginary piece. And that's his life, that's his role in this world as a messenger, and whether or not he communicated his message he remains alone. This is probably rambley and silly but I dunno, something about that struck, it feels like someone with a very painful view of the world who's not quite aware of it- or maybe they are, I don't know these people! But it made me sad and I hope they reconsider

[@mothcub]

That scene feels so dense and strange, love your interpretation ❤️

[@thomasstone3480]

the god in evangelical movies always seems extremely capricious and cruel, he really seems to like to fuck with people and then just have them explain to one another why it's good that he did that while they suffer

[@bmlgordon]

@@thomasstone3480 The evangelical god scans so close to the abusive father in a dysfunctional family.

[@kwarra-an]

​@@thomasstone3480that's just old testament god, too

[@Vesperad0]

​@@bmlgordonprobably because that's what most of them embody, so through god he's their means of justification. After all if a god of supposed love and care for his creations, resembles an abusive family you have on a human level, who's to say your family is in the wrong and not you? It's horrid.

[@carysbebard3690]

WHEN is gay wife/indian husband dropping on Spotify

[@mothcub]

It's a Deezer exclusive track

[@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106]

​@@mothcub woah oh i look just like Buddy Holly

[@escottronic]

i love this video and i'm sorry you had to reupload it but i'm also kinda glad no one else has to deal with the psychic damage of martin freeman's bare torso :sob:

[@mothcub]

We need to keep our children safe xoxo

[@Roseforthethorns]

I saw the 20hrs ago and went “wait, I’ve watched this half a dozen times in the last week(s).” Sorry you had to reupload, but glad it’s back!

[@mothcub]

Thank you Bella Swan 💖🐌

[@mathieuleader8601]

I hope somebody is going to eat a bag of Munchies when watching this

[@mothcub]

Munchies if you're reading this: send me a crate

[@bookshelfhoney]

We have munchies where I live but it's like chips(crisps?) and pretzels & stuff, like a salty party mix. I want to try these other munchies though

[@Jenninka]

I was frantically looking for this one last night. I can finally know peace again

[@mothcub]

🙏

[@emisformaker]

A lassie named Lily was right The movie Love, Actually's trite This film, and its brothers, Disservice to lovers And treat all their ladies with spite ❤

[@emisformaker]

Holy Hannah, I just heard the line 'doomed evil limerence' for the second time in life, and my heart broke into song.

[@mothcub]

THANK YOU I LOVE THIS LIMERICK 💖😭

[@emisformaker]

@@mothcub I'm so glad! I wanted to comment for the re-upload, and I saw you'd asked someone else for poetry. More than happy to oblige.

[@rkoff5744]

🙌Bravo!🙌 Can't give you a lighter, so here's a candle.🕯️

[@Quartermistress]

I am loving your uber long video essay era

[@Marstead]

Sorry you had to reupload this! The video is excellent and everyone should watch it!

[@mothcub]

Tysm 💕💪

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

wait god holy shit her “forgetting” her parents racism when she married (the same guy??) him, like want the fuck. what a reveal

[@hauntedsunsets]

time to rewatch this video! both to support you and cause it's more than good enough to watch once a week

[@mothcub]

💖💕💓

[@wendynerd1199]

Your country just has too many Colins.

[@Rosencreutzzz]

Sorry I just had to come back to ask because it's been stuck in my head since... Are brown cars like... remotely common anywhere? Who has a brown car? The closest I can think of is faux wood panels from like the late 80s into early mid 90s or like "champagne" color off-gold. "She has a brown car"?? Hello????

[@mothcub]

Yeah! I don't think I see a brown car too often. But I shall get one in honour of this movie (I can't drive).

[@Wonkothenormal]

My poarents had a brown car back in the day, it was mostly dad who drove it. It was an older model of a SAAB.

[@Nopenonameok]

I mean this as the highest compliment, I admire just how committed you are to being a hater. You’re my type of person lol. I feel seen.

[@keenoled]

why did those men cast an underage actress as the married woman. why. gross.

[@bhelliom3]

This is the first video I’ve seen of yours and I clicked on it without looking at the length. It’s 1 AM and I just finished it while I’ve been hand sewing an Edwardian bum/hip pad. I’m gonna go check out more videos cuz this was great. Also my dad *adored* Love Actually when I was growing up and it always rubbed me the wrong way but I couldn’t pinpoint why until you were showing the scenes of the awkward woman and awkward Xerxes. It occurred to me right before you said it that they don’t show any of the women ‘leads’ in their own stories having a positive experience, and the other women throughout are just trophies or bystanders in their own lives. He’s Just Not That Into You made me feel so validated when it came out and I remember watching it often but it def had its weird story lines.

[@morganqorishchi8181]

When Queen Latifah said "you got a way with dirty words, I like that" I genuinely got hyped for a second because I imagined a sapphic relationship in which they're both supportive of each other and don't need the jerks that inhabit these sorts of films. Then reality set in.

[@enemycrumbles]

I watched Love Actually for the first time this year and was blown away by how buckwild it was. I couldn’t decide whether Mark being obsessed with a woman he literally avoids talking to at all opportunities or the fucking America subplot with no punchline was more infuriating.

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

I think it's interesting that the white wife is so ashamed of her racist parents that she lies to her husband about them, but then when she wants to reestablish contact is dismissive about their behavior (and still doesn't come clean to her husband about it!).

[@AkashWShah]

Seeing the things that happen in these movies genuinely made me grip my head down on the table multiple times

[@jvever4904]

This video is SO funny, the editing especially. Love Actually really is a trainwreck with an interesting premise/timeline style.

[@mothcub]

Thank you so much! 💕

[@thelegalsystem]

Thank you for removing that FILTH

[@mothcub]

🫡

[@d11j09l92]

Finally. A place where we can all sh*t on this movie with no regrets. Thank you for your blunt honesty on this dumpster fire of a romantic comedy. ❤

[@shannonceleste5557]

Noo I interpret Emma and Alan's last scene together as the two politely greeting each other in front of family but that they've separated I think they just do one of those British cheek air kisses, they don't embrace or anything you see Emma will soon be romping enthusiastically with Leo Grande, no worries! (I never finished that film so just let me continue to believe it has a happy ending)

[@SuziQ.]

That’s my interpretation, too. I have finished the film. If I remember correctly, those two don’t have any other scenes together. I could be mistaken. It’s a boring movie, and not one I rewatch.

[@meuno101]

~1:07:00 you talk about how the mothers bond over their racism. As a bi-racial dude who looks more black who has been deep in alt-right circles since the early 00's I can assure you, that is how it works. I can't explain why, but it's like they both bond over their hatred which is why you'll usually see more unity between right-leaning groups even though they appear more diverse on the surface. Good video overall I thought you just did art on Insta!

[@aspyn.j_]

I have watched this video at least 3 times. Thank you for making me so engaged with a series of films I’ve never seen. Also, loved your video on the 2nd SATC film!!!

[@littlebat66666]

As a German, seeing Till Schweiger out of the blue really knocked out a kidney for me :D

[@dualmo7185]

I got jump scared too 😭

[@coolkidextreme9430]

You calling sara paulson jessica lange the whole time killed me 😭😭😭😭😭

[@slonmish]

I went to the comment section hoping I wasn't the only one who caught it

[@michaelneedssleep]

Excellent. I needed this validation ::checks watch:: 2 decades later. Time to group-text this to all of my friends and exes who ever made me watch Love Actually.

[@scottybritish]

Yes, been waiting decades for ppl to realize this film is crap.

[@yuwenwong6497]

damn this was the video that i found you on!!! thank goodness it's back up because otherwise the people who i've been directing to "this hour+ video essay on love actually and the hell genre it spawned" would have been left bereft.

[@stardusst]

the most outrageous part of this movie is the idea someone would cheat on emma thompson.

[@slonmish]

and be too coward to date Laura Linney. like what

[@BananaTheLemon]

Still not over that Creepy Man is Shawn from Psych

[@baintreachas]

lbr shawn was always a creepy man

[@raskov75]

The bottomless existential dread this movie elicited in me is still with me more than a decade after I saw it. I have no idea why it's considered a romcom. I file it under cosmic horror.

[@Monique.Marceline]

Jennifer Aniston’s “thank you, clown :)” line from Mother’s Day has so much meme potential

[@mothcub]

It's so good

[@meikahidenori]

Thomas Brodie is sooo young! He's come a long way as an actor over the years too. He's taking the leaf out of Elijah woods book by keeping out of the limelight and making a good career in acting. (My daughter likes him alot😂)

[@K.Arashi]

no but why is "gay wife and indian husband" a banger

[@sacredkernel]

I also was repulsed by this movie from the first watch...as a Rom-Com, it's not funny and aggressively unromantic. I found the only passable connection to be the body-double couple because they're the only ones who seem like they will actually have a decent relationship based on a stable foundation; they build a bond slowly by relating to each other in vulnerable moments while navigating the awkwardness of their profession. I wish they had more screentime because the rest of the movie is just so *painful*. There are too many characters with unresolved plot points or just stupid plotlines (looking at you "character Colin"). 🤦‍♀

[@jvgreendarmok]

I had forgotten how much The Whole Bus Claps in "Love Actually" 😄

[@FrankLee-f7y]

Gowing up people would tell me that if a girl was mean to you that meant they liked you. And there are A LOT of mean girls. But I guess everyone gets told that. Explains why everybody just settles and stays in abusive relationships. We've been told since childhood that that's all we deserve. Sad.