LOVE IS BLIND 4's producers are working overtime *EP. 6-8 recap & discusson*

[@CarrieArt7]

I noticed Micah's friends would passively aggressive insult her. They insinuated that they needed to pick a good man for her because she was difficult to handle. Also, I like how Paul defended himself, Micah's friend needed someone to tell her not everyone is going to walk on eggshells around her.

[@SavageThrifter]

Exactly. I know that it put Micah in an awkward situation but she didn't check her friends when they kept roasting Paul before that so he finally had to bite back. I'm here for it

[@donteverfckwithmyvibe]

I'm happy he defended himself. They were drunk, and also drunk off the power she has over Micah's past relationships. And I think the only reason Shelby told Micah "he's not the one" is because he made her feel and look stupid.

[@keirramichelle8644]

Kwame is going to say no at the alter. He's a traditional African man like SK without his mother's blessing he may not move forward with it. On top of that his energy reads Chelsea wasn't my first choice so I'm trying to make this work

[@-lonely-hearts-club-9226]

I saw on Tik Tok that he’s joined other Netflix dating shows, so he probably keeps putting his mom through this and she’s just over it lol

[@ask4theupgrade359]

It was a fake phone call to his Mom. Kwame was sent to the States to be raised by his Uncle, didn’t even meet his biological Mom to later on. He also applied to Season 10 “Married At First Sight” in D.C. before moving to Portland. He was fake crying in the pods. He’s a wannabe on tv, you can see him acting, laughing. The show requires that people live in the same City. They claim to have a difficult time casting. B.S.

[@anncokafor]

​@@ask4theupgrade359They were having a hard time finding cast members from Seattle, so they had to expand to Oregon.

[@pryncessdi9358]

Brett lives in Portland too, so I guess they didn't think it would be a big deal

[@lalaland7961]

Kwame is literally obsessed with Micah .

[@jules8273]

I think it's super selfish of Kwame to expect Chelsea to move to Portland for him, especially knowing she doesn't work remotely. He should not have gone on this show if he wasn't willing to move to Seattle and find a new running trail lol.

[@Kong-dp6jf]

He just doesn't like her at all he's trying to get her to leave passive aggressively

[@amyalbernaz8687]

Lol of a man loves you really loves and respects you he will love anywhere behind you move mountains if he had to to get to you…chels better ruuuuuuun and say no but she dickmatized right now

[@sanjanasuresh5565]

I feel Love is Blind - the experiment works for people above 30, or people that genuinely want to settle down with a family. The experiment doesn't work for people who want to be on TV for short term fame.

[@pryncessdi9358]

I think Barnett, Amber and Mark were in their 20s really wanted to get married

[@Sough]

Please let's not refer to this as an experiment. There's nothing critical or scientific about it. It's not even the main premise of the show, which is just to rush in toward marriage

[@vernicegirl8987]

@@pryncessdi9358Cameron was in his 20 as well

[@paigeh98341]

I think Zach chose Irina partially to prove bliss wrong. I think he was so bothered by bliss’s comment about his judgement of character that it made him double down on choosing irina.

[@paigeh98341]

@@regularity2556 girl you cant refute an opinion LOL

[@SzalonyKucharz]

Zach didn't burn the steaks. He wanted to show off by preparing them sous vide, but from what I managed to see and make out of it, he used food storage ziploc bags instead of proper vacuum sealer bags. Ziplocs aren't 100% watertight, so in result he ended up soaking the meat in tepid water for several hours. A good ole steak only needs a cast iron skillet, less than 2 minutes searing on both sides and a few minutes in the oven, maybe a a few more, depending on one's preferred doneness.

[@katherinedelafuente6030]

I wonder if Jackelina went on LIB because she was in a rush to get married so her dad could have the opportunity to walk her down the aisle. I could imagine that being a really heartbreaking reality to face.

[@HeeJunMinx2]

Wow I never considered that. Can't imagine being in that position.

[@nimbl3731]

Or maybe she did it for the money so she can take care of the financial responsibilities...cos if she wanted her dad to walk her down the aisle, wouldn't she be making it work with Marshall instead of pushing him away??

[@WilliamsPinch]

That’s a decent point. I think she may have applied so that she could bring herself some additional income. That seemed to be her biggest concern.

[@NicoleTurner_]

I thought that Micah’s friend was in love with her too 😂

[@nazizzle]

Sammeeeeeeee

[@amyalbernaz8687]

Lmao definitely

[@HeeJunMinx2]

It seems micah didn't necessarily think paul was good looking, but once someone pointed it out to him, she realized that he is very conventionally attractive. She knows he is intelligent since he is a scientist...so because she may not consider herself intellectual, she feels threatened and insecure. This is probably why anytime someone flatters Paul in some sort of way, she tries to subdue it. She is probably used to dating "hot guys" with no substance.

[@h3llsb3lls612]

“Have you met a baby?” 😂 I love people who are like “new borne are just like luggage. They sleep all the time.” Lol. Does your luggage need to be fed every two to three hours all day and all night?

[@donteverfckwithmyvibe]

It's giving Angela from The Office lol

[@MeganJacquard]

You’re so cute with the mean girls reference. “Say crack again, crack” made my whole day 😂

[@Brittany-kn4mc]

YESSS gold cup! We love to see it. Happy to sponsor! 😂❤️

[@Brittany-kn4mc]

But seriously, I feel like your takes on these relationships always hit for me. Definitely one of the first Love is Blind reaction videos I go to because I can just feel that its a genuine and knowledgeable view

[@melissaj1310]

I’m not sure where Micah gets off gushing to Kwame about how much she cares about him and worries about him and thinks about him when she is the one who broke up with him in a really weird, cold, b!tchy way. And it’s really hypocritical when she was so upset about Irina being flirty with Paul. So it’s okay for YOU to move in on someone else’s man???? What a dumpster fire. Chelsea is a class act, I’m not sure I would be able to not go get in a fight right there. Brett and Tiffany are my only hope at this point. I feel like the producers are TRYING to create drama with them and they just…talk it out and move on. Like MATURE ADULTS. What a concept. 😂

[@pryncessdi9358]

I guess she thought he was hotter than Paul 🤢. Or she just likes the fact that he's still into her and she still wants to prove she can have him if she wants to.

[@lalaland7961]

@@pryncessdi9358 Are u seriously trying to imply Kwame is more attractive than Paul? Kwame and his receding hairline and gargantuan forhead ? Kwame and his pennywise the clown smile with zero emotion behind them ? Kwame and his gaslighting and emotional cheating?

[@Alicja100]

Micah wants to be nr one for every guy. She is A collector, it is not about love.

[@amyalbernaz8687]

She don’t lol it’s all game she just wants to control and manipulate him because she’s insecure AF

[@amyalbernaz8687]

@@Alicja100☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

[@melissamccall1182]

Season 2 definitely didn't have a golden couple...what a dysfunctional group of people. I love, love, love Brett and Tiffany! I honestly think this "experiment" works best for people over 30. I'm pretty sure Brett has the money to spend. She makes decent money, but I think he makes BIG money. Offering to split the bills proportionately is the man of every girl's dreams! So, what is it that Micah likes about Paul? They're just kinda odd and don't seem to mesh. Micah's friends are horrible and if she's friends with them...well...yeah. Paul was feeling bullied...you could see it and it was super uncomfortable.

[@HeeJunMinx2]

I know I was near tears seeing him by himself whole Micah was with her friends. You could see it in his eye that he was upset. I used to put friends first and ended up relationships because of my best friend..guess what we are not friends anymore. Also I got the feeling too that Brett spends the money because he can afford it. Like for me paying 100s of dollars in one meal is really expensive. Heck the Chinese buffet w more than 2 ppl is too expensive.. but for one of my family members that is a D.A is not that bad. So yes Tiffany prob makes good money but nowhere near Brett. Anyways I'm happy that he created his passion into something frugal. Love success stories.

[@Kong-dp6jf]

Micah view Paul as an object and only wants to keep him away from Irena at this point that's why she slept with him

[@jasminaj3682]

Not enough people are talking about Micah making digs at Paul! She does not like him for who he is at all. Just a bad match.

[@HeeJunMinx2]

Yup she talks about him being a scientist as if it were a personality trait, and a negative one. I think other ppl called it she didn't want him until amber came out with the Mardi grass beads all happy. She said she didn't want kwame..but keeps leading him on..seems she just want guys to be wrapped around her finger. Personally I think Micahs brunette friend seemed more into Paul than micah..

[@xxDeeMmmVeexx]

I’m just waiting for Brett’s 🚩🚩🚩 to appear. He’s too perfect and I have been hurt too many times before even on reality tv 😂

[@davids2cents594]

what about Lauren and Cameron? they didnt have any drama ether

[@SavageThrifter]

Yes!! I'm waiting because they seem almost fake because it's so good

[@actuallyxanna774]

But Brett isn't perfect, he's said he can sometimes struggle with showing affection and the word "love" etc. I just think they're not showing too much of them because they're both grown and self aware and are ready to settle down, so there isn't much drama. Cameronl/Lauren and Alexa/Brennon all had pretty smooth relationships leading up to the altar to tbh. Every season except S2 has one.

[@docfabz]

I was thinking 🤔 that too but sometimes a good thing is a good thing so we'll see 👀

[@tyreerockets]

Y’all need to go to therapy to get your pessimism lvls checked , that’s the problem w/ dating nowadays ppl walk into newness w/ an old mindset. End of the day the pain you endured was a part of your own doing. Vet ppl & Choose better 🗣️

[@eauxkei702]

Also, I don't think Bret's apartment is that boogie. As someone who often dates tech guys, most of them own stuff like him. I will say his apartment is better organized than the average bachelor, though.

[@pryncessdi9358]

All of their apartments are super small. I thought that was odd that nobody has a house and they have good jobs.

[@pancakespushups4318]

Stop spreading your legs and start speeding your Bible

[@eauxkei702]

@@pryncessdi9358 As a Bay Arean, I get it. Seattle isn't as expensive, but it's still pricey. I know MANY people who make 6 figures but still have roommates or even live at home! I'm lucky I have a nice, spacious apartment for "cheap" in my expensive ass city lol.

[@alyssiab.]

In Brazil version season 1, Nanda divorced Thiago and is now with Mack. They have a baby. Whoever you're supposed to be with, you'll be with. Rooting for Bliss and Zack and hopefully a honeymoon

[@Ysmir.]

yeah, definitely. letting your pride take away a chance for love is a mistake. also this is not a cheating situation, it's a weird ass experiment when you have to choose a partner based on a few days of blind dating. mistakes will happen and it's awesome if you have a chance to fix them

[@GigiofGigi]

Omg your gold cup! Love it haha

[@aford1716]

It just dawned upon me that we did not see Marshall or Jackie’s place…hopefully the next batch of episodes we meet Tiff and Brett’s family

[@ashleyd8412]

Really? Was the place they showed just the show’s apartment for them both?

[@kimz8528]

​@ashleyd8412 in the show the couples have a shard a apartment given to them by the show. But part of the experience is going to their individual apartments for the person to show to their fiance.

[@frenchyrodriguez9137]

It appears like whosever place they didn't show were because they had roommates or because they didn't live in Seattle, i.e., Tiff and Micah.

[@Kong-dp6jf]

There's a ton of chemistry between Zach and Bliss

[@ninaamaral4434]

Kwame's mom most likely did not release the rights to use her voice or its likeness to production and that´s why we never hear her side of the conversation

[@moichoi2630]

work girlll get those views 😌💅✨ it's really nice seeing your channel grow and thank you for reviewing love is blind brazil, yes im the one who literally begged but saw the video too late 🤡 ANYWAYS LOVE YA THANKS FOR MAKING SERIES OUT OF THIS SHOW 💙💙💙

[@mizelennyus]

hahah better late than never 🥰

[@cynthialeafs]

I think those are Bliss’s parents who don’t like Zach, I am pretty sure Zach does not have parents anymore

[@davids2cents594]

yeah he said his mom died but he never said anything about his dad

[@cynthialeafs]

@@davids2cents594 Zach said his mom was a single mom and that they moved around a lot so I thought he might be out if the picture

[@kalikayy]

The phone call with Kwame and his mom is so confusing cause there are plenty of parents who aren't on board, like Jackie's, but those conversations weren't shown... so why have him re-create the scene 🤔

[@SavageThrifter]

Am I the only one who gets "salesman" vibes from Kwame? Almost everytime he speaks, he just seems like he is trying to schmooze every person and idk his fake ass smile and his sterile, professional tone just gives fake to me and makes me suspicious

[@ErikaNeeds]

Omg I thought me and my sister were the only ones that would joke with the "say crack again" lol Love your commentary! :) greetings from Chile :)

[@xxDeeMmmVeexx]

“Hate brings people together” girl I know you are so correct lol Also idk seattle is icky at least in the CITY part and it’s always gray and rainy.. idk that’s my experience everytime I go there

[@lilylomcari1750]

Just found your channel and subbed. I really like your take on the cast and the recap more so than some therapists on KZbin I’ve seen. You’re also very articulate and I loved listening. Can’t wait for the next one!!

[@SavageThrifter]

I love Zach so much but he needs a lot more therapy and self-work. I don't think he's aware that he chose Irina because he felt safe and comfortable around her, like they were on the same level. Whereas he felt inferior to Bliss. He chose Irina simply because he felt like he wasn't good enough for Bliss. He didn't feel judged and beneath Irina, so she felt safe as a choice and as a partner. He chose Irina because he wouldn't feel judged, scared and always afraid of being rejected and abandoned (like he would feel with Bliss). In episode 8, this was very apparent. The conversation started out by Bliss expressing that she has a hard time getting over the feeling that she is the backup choice. Zach starts out by trying to reassure her but the moment that Bliss tries to reassure herself, by saying "well I mean, I know I'm better than Irina", that majorly triggers Zach. Not because he cares about Irina and not because he doesn't want Bliss to feel reassured that she isn't just his backup, but because that comment triggered Zach's deepest insecurities. As I mentioned previously, Zach felt comfortable around Irina because he felt like they were on each other's level. So when Bliss said she was better than Irina...to Zach, that felt like she was saying that she was better than HIM. Even though it personally triggered him, I was so surprised that he knocked Bliss down so much in that moment. He checked her, called her pretentious and by extension, ruined the entire progress he was making about reassuring Bliss that she shouldn't feel less than Irina. He effectively just reinforced the idea in Bliss's mind that Irina is special to Zach and Bliss is not #1 in his mind. Bliss SHOULD feel better than Irina but I guess it's probably just not a good look to go around saying that. However, in that moment, if I were Zach, I would have let her say that she was better than Irina because she was speaking from emotion and insecurity and just wanted to be reassured that she is #1 to Zach

[@Julie.Canada]

One thing I've learned in life is that guys just like to own a lot of pocket kn1ves 😅 Just to twiddle around. It's not just Paul

[@rinnielikesmemes]

no fr tho the one thing this season has made me feel is the need to move to seattle. it looks beautiful. 😭

[@rebeccag1405]

You: Is Shelby in love with Micah. Even my husband in the other room laughed 😂

[@Bananaspine]

I honestly think the producers may have pressured Zack into picking Irina so they could get the "I made a mistake" plot line

[@maytale.7184]

3:00 Lol yass that’s mi prima Jen calling Tiff sleeping beauty 😅🤗

[@mizelennyus]

Ahhh that’s so cool!!

[@Kong-dp6jf]

I think the only reason she "sealed the deal" with Paul is to keep him away from Irena

[@kalikayy]

I have such a hard time with bliss and Zack cause for me it's like if bliss is happy I'm happy but then after that scene where she addresses being the second choice, it didn't seem like she was happy. And I definitely didn't like they way he handled that.

[@nimbl3731]

I think she hates the fact that she loves him..

[@biguattipoptropica]

Based on what they aired I don’t think he understands how to apologize in this kind of case. I would expect a period of groveling and words of affirmation, which he frequently straight up refuses to do. Like I think eventually it could be a funny speed bump of an otherwise good couple but he’s not reassuring her in the way that I feel he should. Ex: you’re so beautiful, I love spending time with you, I’m so excited for our life together, other similar compliments based on how great she is and he… doesn’t? EDIT: yeah I think my issue is he doesn’t support her for his screw up unprompted

[@Kong-dp6jf]

You can see Tiffany light up in the pods when she found out about Brett's job with Nike

[@vernicegirl8987]

Am I trippin or wasn’t Paul flirting back with Irina in Mexico? I feel like he downplayed their interactions together.

[@michicas93]

You have the best reviews, I agree with your analysis on all the couples, except I definitely don't believe Marshall's "apology" I think his project comment shows he is also toxic but in a different way....But yeah, love that you do the reviews of all the released episodes together in a longer version, rather than per episode, which just drags out content, but makes it less interesting bc you are able to do the overall picture

[@mizelennyus]

thank you so much !! 💖 I think 3 videos or less are best for covering a LiB season, more than that is A LOT And I see what you mean about Marshall, him and Jackelina are sooo hard for me to read sometimes because there’s a lot of unspoken and off-camera moments with them

[@olivia5024]

honestly being the sleepy friend has its challenges hahah my boyfriend used to think I would ignore him and lie about going to sleep and napping so much when we first began dating then he would spend the night and i'd pass out at like 8/9 pm hahah

[@amyalbernaz8687]

Right lol I used to get asked are you narcoleptic? 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@olivia5024]

@@amyalbernaz8687 BAHAHAH omg I used to fall asleep on trains or at movies sooo embarrassing but we have our priorities!

[@amyalbernaz8687]

@@olivia5024 lmao they’d say if she can get comfortable she’ll sleep on a picket fence bahahahaha love my sleep 😴

[@FakemeraldLove]

I don't miss Irina at all lol, my main reason to keep watching is Zach and Bliss

[@isabellacalderone9916]

The amount of times Micah says like is beyond me

[@SavageThrifter]

Did anyone else notice when Marshall made Jackie wear his coat because she was showing a lot of skin and Josh was there 😂

[@bowserjr.7220]

love your aesthetic its giving princess bubblegum

[@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirl]

I never thought about it before, but I do have a sleepy friend! 😂

[@sarahtaavetti]

Paul meeting Micas friends: yes, he was blunt. But so was shelby. She basically came up to him and saying “ I like drama and i like to dish shit. If you can’t handle that, you don’t deserve Mica” … I was like whaaaat? I probably would have said the same thing as Paul. I agree that meeting Micas two best friends and knowing that Irina was Micas friend, does not make Mica look good. 😂

[@Kong-dp6jf]

Yea Tiffany and Bretts situation is heartwarming

[@thisisntahandle]

“Saw her as a project” wow that’s fcked up

[@ashleyd8412]

Idk who needs to hear this but no one was on the other end of that phone when kwame “called his mom.” Idc idc idc

[@lexieg229]

I thought it was just me because I was like is he talking to himself 😂

[@HeeJunMinx2]

I lit told my sister this...I was like I think he making it up to have an out of the relationship.

[@x.HoneyBea.x]

I can't wait to see what you have to say about the new episodes

[@OceanLily]

Marshall is too good for her. She needs therapy not a man.

[@Kong-dp6jf]

Bliss is such a dream girl. And yea Kyle was Deeptis puppy

[@jofip9199]

I never thought about it but it’s true that every group friend has a sleepy friend and I think that’s me fml lol

[@karinanieves3115]

Micah’s friend reminded me of Peach 🍑 from Season 1 of “You”👀🫢

[@jaime4597]

I hope Bliss says no at the alter. Zack is a bit of a walking red flag

[@Uneclipsed]

I love Seattle, but the cost of living here is insane.

[@RealityCheckSisters]

We love your vibe 💕

[@Kong-dp6jf]

Kwame straight up just doesn't like Chelsea

[@christinawithak]

I got a weird viber when Tiffany and Brett had the money talk, I think she overstepped there

[@blockiana9714]

No Tiffany is doing absolutely too much!! Like read Brett’s body language 😭 I’m so scared she’s going to chase him away slowly

[@birdi3beez]

It got weird but I don’t think she overstepped by asking. She’s his future wife and they are combining their lives together, that includes finances. She should know how much he spends on things, vice versa, because they will be making financial decisions that impact them both. Especially if they have any long term goals like buying a house.

[@raisingwings6951]

If anything, she didn't go far enough. Money problems are cited as a major cause of divorce, their different spending habits can become an enormous source of conflict. Better to iron that all out before they tie the knot

[@paigeh98341]

I thought she handled it very well actually! She could have been much more harsh or judgmental, but she kept the vibe light and made some jokes. It’s an important conversation to have and it’s always uncomfortable.

[@regularity2556]

I agree. I think it got a little inappropriate

[@Kong-dp6jf]

I love how she was talking the whole time he was kissing her (bliss and Zach)

[@Kong-dp6jf]

He was defrosting the steaks in plastic bags in water and the water got through to bag

[@x.HoneyBea.x]

You should check out season 10 and season 11 of married at first sight. I think you would have lots to say about Katie and Derek and Amelia and Bennett respectively

[@Alicja100]

Paul, Chelse, Marshal will say « no» at The alter. I am sure.

[@tfh5575]

paul is good looking i would have thought he was micah’s type but guess not. he’s not necessarily my type but i still would

[@sammartinez8956]

Say crack one more time 😄 lolololol

[@ladybatwing]

OMG YOU GOT THE CUP

[@lynbattersby]

Bliss is faking it. Her body language does not mirror his, and she seems just as put off by him as Irina was. She gives off "The producers made me do it" vibes.

[@evita2989]

Jackie for sure is self sabotaging her relationship. She did say that she wasn’t attracted to him physically after she met him…. So I think that and the fact that she is going through a lot with her family that she probably doesn’t see Marshall as her partner and more of a bestie. I think it’s awful that she is doing that and stringing him along instead of being honest with herself and letting him go so he can get back to actually finding who he needs to be with.

[@Pinkgobi]

YOU HAVE THE CUP

[@juzam8988]

Omg where did you get your cup!!! I need one!

[@Jenalamah]

Congrats on getting monetized!

[@mizelennyus]

Thank youuu 🙌

[@tfh5575]

i won’t leave a dish in the sink either

[@tfh5575]

“why all the pink?” because she likes it ??? why does anyone like anything?

[@Kong-dp6jf]

Bliss loved it when he kissed her in front of micah

[@sammartinez8956]

Yayyyy you got the gold cup!... So dramatic 👑

[@davids2cents594]

forced drama is to strong of a word if you watch Lauren and Cameron youtube channel. the only thing the producers do is ask them to ask each other questions. and the questions that they want them to ask they dont have to do if they do not want to. this is just a case of alot of immature people that do not take it has serious has other like brett and tiff and Lauren and Cameron

[@MC-mh2ju]

Paul....articulate?...lol

[@lez2884]

I agree this set of episodes are boring. I hear a lot of people liking this season; really not that into it anymore. Maybe last 2 or 3 episodes will change my mind.

[@pryncessdi9358]

The pod episodes aren't as good as S1, I don't think I watched much of the other seasons. They didn't show the other contestants at all having conversations. Just the few that got in engaged and their other connections. Also they barely showed the other castmates hanging out in the lounge talking to each other like they did with Rory.

[@GrowwithPilar]

Wait… who was the hostage in season 3??

[@mizelennyus]

It’s Colleen 🫣 I’m mostly being dramatic but I was always wondering w/ her through season 3

[@GrowwithPilar]

@@mizelennyus LOL. Now that you mention it… 😅

[@miriamsheppard6162]

@@mizelennyus omgggg at the reunion. the vibes..

[@smadyby]

Hi! I really like your commentary, but it's so hard to hear you... the volume is really low compared to other videos, and at the highest I still have trouble listening... Hope it will be solved in the future! 🙏🏼🖤

[@tfh5575]

micah is so unlikable. paul deserves better

[@samiam5434]

Honestly Micah is nasty and insecure. She chooses to be friends with girls who are insecure and who low key have some sort of jealous streak towards her. Irina was up her butt at the beginning and I found That weird. Then at a party when Micah said there was weird tension between her and Chelsea was in Micah’s head. irina almost said that maybe it’s because Chelsea is insecure or jealous of Micah and that is not at all what’s happening. Chelsea is so secure and a class act. Irina was projecting and she knew that so she stopped herself from saying it. Low key, irina probably envies Micah for her looks and that’s why she acts like her puppet. Also the rest of Micah’s friends are like that. Micah is a solid 6/10 so not sure why they are acting like she’s so beautiful and such as prize but they subconsciously feel like she’s above them and so low key they don’t want her to be happy. The toxic dynamic and projecting between these women is insane. Micah would never be friends with a Chelsea or bliss because they are secure, grown women and would call her out and never be up her butt. Micah does not want women she is intimidated by, women that may be “threatening “ meaning women who have more too offer….both in mind and beauty so subconsciously (maybe consciously) chooses women that she too feels are below her and not threatening. Ugh…..girl world is tiring. This is why I find it hard to be friends with women. Too much of this “competition “ mind set that women have with each other and it manifests as sneaky behavior and catty comments.

[@faynuus2967]

💯 spot on! By far the best description of her I have seen!