Low Kicks Only 2 - When Kyokushin Dominates Again

[@FightCommentary]

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[@Laj-t9k]

Great stuff as always, Jerry. Not sure if you covered this, but Ashihara is an offshoot from Kyokushin, so they share a lot in common.

[@antoniostrina82]

If you continue to posting these videos, you'll break the heart of the Thai/MMA fanboys.

[@Laj-t9k]

@@antoniostrina82 🤣👍

[@abreczest-zzz]

@@antoniostrina82 hahaha yeah, yep I agree, just because maybe even more “ mma’ERS” all together spanning the globe . . uh ohhhh 😬😳😱

[@SENTINELA-X1J]

Puxa vida MMA????? NÃO ENTENDI

[@zhanibek_kk]

Lmao this is just Kyokushin training the competition

[@ivancarrascoq]

A normal day for a Kuykushin. lol

[@Pifagorass]

Shinkiokushin we don't do such crazy stuff, #1 Shin pads used, #2 doing 💯% only if the leg is protected with thick pads (still painful)

[@nexobusa]

The conditioning of kyokushin is unmatched. As a 2nd Dan n training kyokushin for 30years I get challenged by guys half my age trying to with stand my low kicks ,usually by the 2nd kick they screwed. Most of them are mma n kickboxing dudes lol.

[@Enryu_CZX]

@@nexobusa i would really like an authentic Muay Thai practitoner from Thailand take your kicks.

[@75Ge-nesis]

@@Pifagorass byakuren and we don't even care about pain, we are the pain.

[@chikken_soup]

I didn't know this event even existed. It's like the lower body version of Power Slap

and way way way much better. Hate me but power slap doesn't even require professional athleticism and mannerism which ends up in some fuck'd up situations

[@rockoorbe2002]

And at least while this might shatter you shins, it won't shatter your chin. And perhaps delete any remaining brain cells

[@flowrepins6663]

​@@rockoorbe2002you can clearly see the people here got more technique and are more fit, the slap guys dont know how to fight and are fat. This is way better you can see it takes more technique and training.

[@fighterck6241]

@flowrepins6663 TBF, a lot of them are bodybuilders or powerlifters

[@franzmustermann760]

without brain damage. Only limp for a couple of days

[@PistolsPlayground]

I come from an Enshin karate background, it's an offshoot of Kyokushin, like Ashihara. You'll notice that the Kyokushin practitioners turn their thigh into the kick so the low kick hits more toward the front of the quads. It helps protect the sciatic nerve.

[@FightCommentary]

Great detail! Thanks for the comment!

[@joezen1693]

@@PistolsPlayground 100%, some thai fighters do same.. Including the last-sec downturn to dev torque inyo the leg blow. I still remember the delivery and pain from it

[@DersNoNem]

I still can't see what do you mean. I practice Muay Thai and it affects my support legs. Rafael Fiziev injured himself like that.

[@cameronburnett9679]

We trained a similar kick in wing chun but it's a bit more brutal. You do the same hip rotation that the 2 Tajik guys were doing then drop your body weight down onto the contract point while opening the knee joint slightly. I've heard of legs breaking. Even through a kick bag it's no joke if the person is good.

[@ekramer1552]

What a lot of hogwash. All useless, if you have the right technique should only need one kick . Is this suppose to mean that Kyokushin is superior to mma...😂. Absolutely stupid to have people kicking at each other's thighs like that. The top fighters in the world, mma and Muay Thai practitioners I'm sure haven't got time for such nonsense. They will rather show their full arsenal in the ring, where the other fighter is retaliating.

[@flowrepins6663]

Low kick>>>power slap

[@jotaktessier7108]

Ofc bro

[@mytube9182]

all lame :)

[@flowrepins6663]

@@mytube9182 low kick requires more technique and training. You see the low kickers are all actually fighters and all in shape while the power slappers are not fighters and the champions are all fat.

[@MP-db9sw]

This is a normal thing in Kyokushin training. Not only are they more practiced at causing pain but theyre better at bracing. Notice the Kyo athletes also change the angles of their legs when they brace so the kick doesnt land on the same spot every time.

[@FightCommentary]

The making sure the kick doesnt land in the same spot is an amazing detail! Great tactic!

[@4EverAwesomness92]

kyukushin guys at the highest level are beast at taking low kicks

[@djinjis]

because they don't have Thai fighters.

[@user-ch6qe2vg8u]

@@djinjiswhat?

[@djinjis]

@@user-ch6qe2vg8u Muay Thai sometimes referred to as Thai boxing

[@user-ch6qe2vg8u]

@@djinjis no I know what it is

[@jaeger251]

@@djinjis exactly!

[@jty1999]

I think downward leg kicks hurt more, but upwards is just faster and easier to retract from

[@Seven-not-Six]

True. The way I'm taught is that you are turning & dropping the weight a bit so that the shin is cutting and digging into the target. So, yea. In and down for me

[@remilitjes]

yes i think when the downward kicks are placed good they hurt way more. i do think they do less dmg. i can take several hard kicks during sparring and eating the pain but nexst day i will have trouble walking. But we have one tall guy who hits those downward kicks perfect 3 good kicks and iam out cant even stand on my legg for a min feels like my legg is falling off but nexst day no problem. maby its because the other kicks hurt less you can take more but the trade off is more dmg

[@tonymack4120]

​@@remilitjes yes that's the answer

[@TomiSimatupang]

Yep.. The Dutch popularised upward low kicking for that reason.

[@complexblackness]

Ashihara comes from Kyokushin.

[@finnthecake8859]

What is with this warning system? She gets warned 3 times and gets to continue? XD

[@FightCommentary]

Yeah, like I said in the end, the kicking knee part needs to be much more regulated.

[@centurionpetrus1784]

3 warnings should lead to disqualification.

[@deadby15]

Isn’t it partly because she’s way shorter?

[@TheselfhelpTruthpiller]

Where's Muay Thai people

[@opalguys9158]

@@TheselfhelpTruthpiller exactly

[@angelviloria4966]

Exactly!!

[@__________o____________]

@@TheselfhelpTruthpiller not doing dumb stuff like this lmao

[@sh3n3ng]

@@TheselfhelpTruthpiller in the ring fighting, probably

[@stefthorman8548]

@@__________o____________ maybe they're too poor to participate

[@tBarkEditing]

i can see there's a difference in technique. The angle of the kicks seem different for the karatekas and the way they receive the kick changes the same receiving angle

[@blipblop9094]

3:55 is the best kick counter for kyokushin defense, so the kick doesnt slide and reduces the impact.

[@rafaelcarrera9436]

The chopping style leg kick is more typical of Dutch or traditional Muay Thai? I cannot remember ever seeing a kyokushin or any knockdown karate stylist kicking that way.

[@blipblop9094]

@@rafaelcarrera9436 it's like a flick kick. i thnk i havnt seen it used in muay thai since they always go for the head when doing flick kicks.

[@supervisorone5960]

Very interesting thanks for posting this, when I was a kid in the 70's they televised some karate matches and I still remember seeing Howard Jackson of the Chuck Norris team fighting a guy and all that guy did was kick him in the side of the thigh, within a few rounds Howard could barely stay on his feet he could barely keep one of his feet on the ground even, it seemed like a lost fight he could barely stand when Howard suddenly landed a punch that KO'd his opponent. I was just a boy and this was so impressive that I still remember it

[@FightCommentary]

Do you know who the opponent was?

[@supervisorone5960]

@@FightCommentary I was too young at the time but it might of been an Asian guy possibly from an overseas team but I really don't know

[@Domzdream]

This is exactly like watching thsoe boxes back in the late 1800s, early 1900s, smacking each other in their faces until one drops. It's not a question of skill. It's a question of endurance.

[@soyanchd5439]

Rate of injury: 100%

[@terrykim2743]

People don't realize Gi is an armor. They should make a rule about it.

[@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96]

Depends on the Gi.

[@johnmxboi7024]

@@terrykim2743 not really, you can still feel those low kicks, only thing it would really protect from is slaps

[@wonyenghitarigeorge5252]

I agree, allowing the fight to continue after three kicks to the knee, deliberate or not shouldn't happen. The knee won't know the difference and a ligament tear is not less likely to occur because a powerful kick isn't deliberate. It should be first kick, then a warning and the second kick, elimination. These are high level martial artists, it shouldn't be too much to hold them to high standards.

[@junichiroyamashita]

Does big quads and hamstrings help against low kicks? I heard that Saenchai blocks kicks with the ass,but i cannot find it.

[@Seven-not-Six]

It will help. But it depends on training. If you don't train it. You'll likely fold really quickly

[@BauBOO]

Yo that buttocks kinda really works, I was training one time and this dude was going aggressive on me and he was overpowering me but he kicked me somehow I didn't even block he just jam his toe on my glute and got hurt.

[@stefthorman8548]

no, the more meat, more pain.

[@1individeo]

There are 3 types of low kicks: one that goes from up to down more common in muay thai, there is the one that goes the other around, from bottom to top direction more common in karate styles, and there is the one that hits the back of the tigh also used alot in karate or fighters like Jose Aldo

[@6illyloomer955]

Just another conditioning class for kyokushin guy

[@kevinmkraft]

What an insane competition!

[@SeanLarsDogma]

Ashihara is a derivative of Kyokushin. It focuses on sabaki (counter/parry).

[@Vinnay94]

I'm glad you pointed out the Kicks to the knee. I wasn't sure if they were bad or not.

[@4EverAwesomness92]

A low kick hurts more when you aim it down wards, because then you hit with gravity. Same with punching, if you can hit a down angle, it is more effective

[@kbomb1029]

@@4EverAwesomness92 too much imagination 💭 watching animation No such thing as hurts more a solid low kick you drop and won’t be able to even say it hurts

[@HansCast]

This video has taught me never to take a low kick from a Kyokushin practitioner.

[@dogwink]

Physics: Snap (high velocity kicks) have more nerve penetration power than swing (high mass kicks), which trades penetration for concussion. Concussive kicks have a higher margin of error because they cause damage even when blocked, but penetration attacks lose pretty much all effectiveness when blocked or absorbed.

[@NeilHaran]

Now this is way better than the slap stuff!

[@pierrebattermann3747]

Kicking downwards is very effective for lowkicks. This was the preferred lowkicking way of Ernesto Hoost, "mister perfect"

[@SavageEntertainmentYEAH]

In Yaw Yan style Filipino kickboxing the kicks are angled downwards like the machete used in kali. Slicing backhands are also used to trap and bring down guards, same with the kicks as they all arc downwards to pull the guard down. But it also hurts pretty bad when it hits your leg like that

[@slee2695]

Lmao....Filipino kickboxing

[@SavageEntertainmentYEAH]

@@slee2695 yeah it’s a style developed during Vietnam war by combining Silat, Muay Thai, Savate, and Karate together I believe in 1971. Pretty cool style where all the strikes are angles downwards to cut into the opponents rib cage and gaurd

[@YouCallThataKnife253]

Pretty sure Ashihara is based in Kyokushin

[@langying]

More like an offshoot. Though, there is much more emphasis on sabaki, and circling the opponent, instead of the stand-n-bang Kyokushin does

[@blackpyjamas7987]

Some info an Ashihara Karate: It's a style of Karate built off the Kyoukushin system by Hideyuki Ashihara that incorporates other martial arts styles with a focus on street fighting (theoretically should be really good but kyoukushin is just more popular)

[@joey7.62]

Wish we coulda seen prime Thiago Alves Vs Prime Doug Lima in this

[@rmoisio]

downwards kick packs gravity's effect. but the key thing is that you can thrust with your hips more when turning the shin downwards

[@DitNg516]

Which part of the leg has the most pain?

[@infinitemonkey917]

How does it work if one is a southpaw? Kick the rear legs?

[@acexae2411]

😢On average, how often do kyokushinkais do conditioning??? Wldnt they get joint issues resulting from those conditioning?

[@gamrage]

3:56 The low kick is stronger when the body's weight drops into it. As the kick gets higher, the kick needs to fundamentally change for more power. I think taller people would be at an advantage in this situation. They're doing two fundamentally different kicks.

[@YourBestFriendforToday]

The karate guys adjust the angle last second. Pretty damn effective.

[@hichamlak6477]

Thanks fight documentary❤

[@Pifagorass]

You want to aim slightly downward from outside the best is just slightly above the knee 😅. I got one 2 weeks ago and till now waking up at night from naming feeling (slightly torn ligaments) - received 70% from Olympic karateke with Shinkiokushin official shinpads during friendly sparring (i him him 70% inside kick before but with very thick Muithai training shinpads).

[@nexobusa]

The conditioning of kyokushin is unmatched. As a 2nd Dan n training kyokushin for 30years I get challenged by guys half my age trying to with stand my low kicks ,usually by the 2nd kick they screwed. Most of them are mma n kickboxing dudes lol. wen we get kicked we slightly jut out our thighs ...that's the trick 👌

[@johnathanwilson5023]

In answer to your question, you want to chop down on the kick for greater weight and penetration. The triangular arc of the chop down adds more torque as well.

[@JoriMikke78]

Are there any weight classes here? Those karates look way heavier than the other guys.

[@ycksimonrexy1]

why not wearing a knee guard to prevent accidentally kick

[@firenado1674]

This is MUCH better than powerslap, at least you don’t let ur self get brain injured

[@danguillou713]

You definitely want to kick slightly downward. When you brace yourself you stand with your leg angled forward. A kick from below will glance off, and even a kick coming in perfectly horisontally will meet the leg at an angle. But if you lift your kick up and kick down into the leg you get a much better force transfer into the meat, and it's easier to put more of your body weight into i. It was weird how many of these competitors didn't seem to have practiced that.

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

you know the kyok guys they will angle the thigh in such a way that the incoming kick is deflected and glance off ,very smart

[@centurionpetrus1784]

That was much more interesting than power slap lol. The kyokushin practitionners had obviously much better low kicks. Better technique, faster and more powerful. I would be very curious to see them against nak muays and see who wins.

[@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh]

in K1 Francisco Filho World Champion of Kyokushin fighted against Peter Aerts World Champion of Muay Thai the Lumberjack they have a Beautiful Kicks fight.

[@centurionpetrus1784]

@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh Thanks for the suggestion, I will watch that.

[@nexobusa]

The conditioning of kyokushin is unmatched. As a 2nd Dan n training kyokushin for 30years I get challenged by guys half my age trying to with stand my low kicks ,usually by the 2nd kick they screwed. Most of them are mma n kickboxing dudes lol. look the point of a gedan in reality is to break the joint ultimately...now to harness this power and kicks to tyres cause microfractures of the shin, that coupled with pinpoint striking towards the centre of the thigh but grating it downwards is the key factor. However one aspect of mas oyama philosophy behind this kick is to use excessive speed all coupled in one, it takes time but trust me i have fun doing it. But doing it to a fellow kyok fighter is frightening.

[@optimumpcyt]

You know they kick hard when they have shin in the name of the art

[@7woundsfist]

I was taught to cut down. That shin on the it band is super painful. 😱

[@phuongtrangdo]

The match between two girls is amazing. I think the only difference is the MMA girl was very loose in her whole left leg, that make her more sustainable.

[@bigedwerd]

My guess on aiming downwards is for turning your hip more or getting more whip on the kick ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've definitely tried aiming "down" before to get more hip turn.

[@GRIMSVOLT]

From what I've been shown, striking up is more speed, striking down is more power.

[@Wagyu_Jubei]

If you don't have to worry about face punches, you can linger in the pocket and stick that kick to the leg, so to speak.

[@Orimthekeyacolite]

I have very mixed feelings about this. Don't like the idea of people competing in who's willing to sacrifice more health😖 Yet I cannot deny, as a martial artist seeing these is educational - it's like the purest form of a scientific experiment

[@flowrepins6663]

Its better than power slap at least leg muscle can recover and even get stronger, unlike brain cells.

[@ProfessorCarlo]

Very interesting, a competition for people who can't kick 😊

[@richardhinckley9690]

A thought about the referee work for this: The ref can see knee kicks very clearly from one player, but not the other, because of what side of the leg the ref is standing on.

[@FightCommentary]

Oh!!! That is a great point! In this case they need two refs per match!

[@shawnmartin1289]

Where my Uechi folk at for these low kick comps?

[@Wulf-sq9zw]

Leg kick endurance is a kyokushin thing right? They are pretty much prepared for this

[@Familyties007]

Don't let jean Claude van damn see this. Gonna bring back old memories

[@parismg4076]

When I was doing karate, my teacher would hit us with a Filipino stick as punishment. The blows were strong, but nothing that would stop you from training or cause you great damage. One day my uniform didn't dry and I was wearing sports clothes made of very thin, waterproof-type fabric. Obviously, he hit me with the Filipino stick for not wearing a uniform, but this time it hurt and burned my soul since the karategui is made of thick and heavy fabric. The blows hurt me for almost a month and remained marked even longer. I love karate and I know that it can be effective against any martial art, but to be honest, I think that the uniform played a big part in this.

[@Crownholder]

It is the best event on earth❤

[@Asynix]

the person who goes first has a huge advantage

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

one thing's for sure , THEY ARE ALL LIMPING BACK HOME

[@BnT904Loyal]

Dutch were ahead of their time when their style of kickboxing was created. Thai boxers would load up on their kicks, Dutch were generating the same amount of power but quicker & more efficient thanks to Kyokushin

[@FightCommentary]

Exactly!

[@AndrewTheMandrew531]

This is like power slap competitions. It isn’t about skill or friendly sportsmanship, but rather just about causing as much pain as possible, right?

[@flowrepins6663]

This obviously requires more skill than the power slaps, you can see the people here are actually mma and karate masters and very athletic while the power slap guys are fat and arent even fighters. Probably being overweight helps to not get knocked out for a reason. But the power slap guys would get beaten in real fights while low kick guys are real fighters and that settles it.

[@csl9495]

That mma girls look was beaitifully fierce

[@douglasmacneil4474]

Kicking downwards is always better for the upper leg, up for lower leg.

[@miguelangelmirandaayavire7770]

gran legado a dejado mas oyama con sus tecnicas os 🙏🙏

[@Skaxarrat]

"Tu dojo de karate", one of the best Kyokushin-related KZbinrs in spanish language, uploaded a video few minutes ago a new video talking about this (the video is called 'LOWKICK CHAMPIONSHIP | 🦵LKC 002🦵 | TAJIKISTAN | *Full Event* | 18- 08 - 2024'), and how it was covered about many people all over the world. He even mentioned you briefly, lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaq2ppl5lqugmtE minute 1:01

[@Skaxarrat]

By the way, the next one will be in less than one week, 07/09/2024, again in València.

[@MB-sb4cz]

4:01 you wanna aim it downwards for extra damage

[@flowrepins6663]

It would be cool to see gut punch and nut kick competition

[@jacobpaint]

I imagine tall girl had to kick down to hit the shorter woman’s thigh. I’d wonder if there is any strategy to alter your stance depending on the angle the kicks are coming from. It seems like a kick would have more impact if it’s coming down perpendicular to the thigh than it would at a different angle but maybe you also need to preserve your shin by not kicking too directly. I don’t know, maybe you can interview a Kyokushin kicker.

[@chansoopark9953]

We need kick to the rib championship next

[@lifeneverends7068]

Why there is no boxing punch to chin competition😂

[@clarencenoack-3845]

Everything seems tough but that's tough

[@tiloktrc]

Bring a muay thai fighter and then the fun happens

[@cahallo5964]

The other video had some muay thai fighters and the kyokushinka won anyways lol

[@MatthewNguyen-zx3de]

Muay Thai fighters are better at actual fighting. Leg kicks aren't necessarily the best thing about them. In actual Muay Thai, you don't see them often because fighters aren't dumb enough to tank them lol.

[@nonon0n0o]

@@cahallo5964there was literally 1 no-name Muay Thai guy and that couldn't proof anything, maybe bring someone like Superlek and see how it goes next time

[@cahallo5964]

@@nonon0n0o a no name guy on a local amateur event?!! woah no way bro let's also bring back Filho from retirement and Andy Hug from the grave while we are at it

[@nonon0n0o]

@@cahallo5964 amatuer event? When did the sport even existed? Yesterday? Where is the guy fighting now? In his own gym? Bruhh..

[@RaimundoPAM]

Muay thai defence for low kicks is about lifting the foot and defending with the shin. Those Muay Thai guys had no idea how to brace for impact. The Kyokushin guy was bracing correctly, lowering stance, firming feet and advancing a bit to soften the incoming kick. Also, the Kyokushin guys was way more precise and effective with his hits while the other guys where hitting with the foot or way too high on the leg or at the waist.

[@ZOJP]

Lady in kykushin was definitely better after the 3 warnings but the MMA lady should've got a warning because she was just as close to the knee on Kykoshin lady 🧐

[@Fightstuff-p7x]

Ashihara guy looks like he practices because Ashihara Karate was established by one of Oyama's top students.

[@roryconroy9669]

Down and in if the target is stationary.

[@omarcorrea1996]

For the girls, the height difference made it so that the shorter girl had to throw a round house kick instead of a low kick in order to not strike the taller girl's knee

[@rasas1235]

Muaythai must take part

[@DAVID-io9nj]

Their sport, their rules. I personally think zero free shot to the knee. Under these rules of stand and take it, no reason to be off target.

[@DouglasGomesBueno]

Challenging Karate Kyokushin to a kicking competition is like challenging a Pro Boxer to a Punching competition or an Elite Wrestler to a Takedown competition.

[@jordanrock3494]

😂 the kyokushin guys actually know how to take the force to the point where it's almost cheating(The first guy really).😂

[@edturner9670]

Leg slap. Power slap with less brain damage but more limping.

[@timmartin638]

they kick like muay thai fighters with that whipping motion i wonder hit these karate guys go up against thai fighters that will be very interesting

[@muhammadsteinberg]

Only thing more ridiculous than this is the slapping thing!

[@joep.tuitavuki4297]

Tiger tail kick downward curling like a Tigers tail old school kung fu

[@gedsonvigalo1535]

chalengin a kyokushin guy to a leg kick fight is hiralious lol

[@trdr_nav369]

You chop down and use your full body weight- hip drive vs up which is more like a slap.

[@kenlek869]

The Kyokushin girl is shorter and her low kicks can only reach the knee of her opponent. She probably has not practiced kicking higher than that, and kicking the side or back of the knee may be allowed in karate sparting.

[@TomiSimatupang]

In Muay Thai we're definitely trained to aim downwards.

[@ThailandTerry2024]

That's gotta hurt, I sure hope the money is worth the damage and recovery time ...

[@flowrepins6663]

At least is better than power slap. Brain cells dont recover

[@oneDonly]

I like this

[@voisx]

where is Franck ropers?😂

[@kebabdi8033]

would love to see some real good thai boxers try this