Loyd Carrier - Drive To The Pub

Driving the WW2 Loyd Carrier to the Greenman Pub for the Classic Car day in April 2024. My Daughter video'd in portrait sadly...better luck next time.
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[@rexbarron4873]

Love the sound of the '39 flathead Ford V8.....

[@johnpoile1451]

Is that the same as fitted to the Ford Pilot 3600cc?

[@loydcarrier2197]

@@johnpoile1451 yes

[@wilf609]

Thanks for the link on the Chieftain's video on the 90mm gun version CATI, this explains the 2 driving positions on that.

[@TimmysFavs]

Congratulations, a lovely bit of kit!

[@johnsamu]

Where did you install the hot water boiler for making a cuppa tea? You know that's the main weapon in any British fighting vehicle?😉😉

[@Jones-xx2gc]

Brilliant.I want one.

[@waynemetevia7983]

Who wouldn't?

[@loydcarrier2197]

Well, it only took me 13 years to rebuild from a wreck!

[@waynemetevia7983]

@@loydcarrier2197 You did a great job on it.

[@ulrichkalber9039]

look mom! a tank puppy!

[@ptonpc]

Sounds beautiful :)

[@johnmartin4650]

Love those WW 2 vehicles…..thank you for showing

[@andrewmacdonald4833]

Can't be many of these about. I've not seen one of these up close.

[@andremaertens5964]

We had them to tow our antitank guns in 1959 in belgium

[@loydcarrier2197]

That is where mine came from, ex Belgian army CATI ammunition Carrier!

[@jimomaha7809]

Very nice. Its not that you wanted to show off. Every vehicle needs to be driven from time to time. Me personaly would have done this to show off. Well done you deserved a pint.

[@loydcarrier2197]

The worst bit is I only had a coffee!

[@sum12see]

Drink a pint for me mate!.Bloody hell,lol!!

[@IntrospectorGeneral]

Lovely thing! A bit embarassed to realise after all these years that it's Loyd and not Lloyd.

[@loydcarrier2197]

I think Lloyd is a more common surname but Cpt Vivian was a Loyd.

[@jackflak]

Nice...

[@simonmccarthy5512]

What's the wheel with rubber tyre? Can you put it on the drive sprocket and drive if the carrier sheds a track?

[@loydcarrier2197]

That is a spare wheel for the anti-tank gun that the Loyd would tow.

[@andremaertens5964]

​@@loydcarrier2197 Yes that is the spare for the gum

[@barrag3463]

I know this is a very niche question with a probably obvious answer, but is that SMLE still functional, or demilitarized, or a prop? Just curious, as someone who likes Enfields.

[@loydcarrier2197]

I 1990s demil

[@loydcarrier2197]

It is a No4 Mk1

[@barrag3463]

@@loydcarrier2197 ladder sight threw me off; my No.4 Mk I has the later two-leg peep sight, but it was definitely made after they further simplified designs to speed up production.

[@harryfaber]

No good for going to the pubs I used to know, maybe a Churchill Crocodile....

[@Altair885]

Interesting vehicle. Just curious about how steering is achieved. It looks like the final drive is basically just a truck axle with drive sprockets instead of wheels, is there anything special about the axle in regards to the differential, or is simply a normal open type diff with steering achieved by applying a brake on the appropriate side? Pretty neat job restoring it BTW!

[@loydcarrier2197]

It is very basic in design as it was essentially a 'war emergency vehicle', no controlled differential steering, just large drum brakes on either side with the Ford open diff in the housing. There are additional drum brakes on the idler wheels at the rear to half the loading on the brakes overall, that's why the idlers have sprockets. When you apply the brakes on one side with the tiller it puts a large load on the V8, you can hear it struggle. Tight steering in 1st and 2nd is fine but 3rd and 4th only let you do trajectory adjustments.

[@andremaertens5964]

Steering was done by braking one side or the other a hand brake locked both brakes

[@Altair885]

​@@loydcarrier2197Very informative, thank you. I know what you mean about trying to steer at speed. I have a 1970's era Canadian built Flextrac Nodwell FN22 that also uses a lot of Ford components, amongst others. At low speeds turning is not too much of an issue unless it gets bogged down, however even on hard surfaces and at speed the lack of engine power and very aggressive grousers dig in a bit too well preventing any meaningful alteration in course. You have to pick your point in the distance before engaging higher gears😁. Did you have many issues in restoring this vehicle, the tracks themselves look particularly time consuming to overhaul?

[@loydcarrier2197]

It took 13 years. Loyd carrier parts are almost impossible to find.

[@andremaertens5964]

The fifferential was standard light truck one the whole power train was made by ford

[@j.1294]

0:40 this fascinating sound is similar to Riva-boats. Are specs of the engine available?

[@loydcarrier2197]

It is a 1940s Ford V8 3.6L, you can see it on other videos on the channel.

[@WilliamWalls-iz2rv]

Cool! Spare tire, though??

[@loydcarrier2197]

That is WW2 spec, for the 6 Pdr Anti-Tank gun it would have been towing.

[@doughuffman5790]

The mounted spare tire is a legal requirement?

[@loydcarrier2197]

No, it is the spare wheel for a 6Pdr Anti Tank gun that the Loyd would have pulled in WW2.

[@AndreiTupolev]

Is it road legal without rubber treads on the tracks then?

[@loydcarrier2197]

Yes, UK regulations do not mandate the material the tracks are made from, just they they are flat and free from damage, you do need rubber tyres on the road wheels along with a ground pressure below the max limit stipulated in the construction and use regulations 1986.

[@andremaertens5964]

The idler wheels were similar to those of a brengin carrier

[@davidpowell6098]

Same chassis, I believe. Tracks, too.

[@andremaertens5964]

Yes the tracks and idlers are the same as the brengun,s

[@peter774]

A spare wheel?.

[@loydcarrier2197]

For the anti-tank gun it would have towed during wartime. 6 Pdr.

[@wyyrdojim]

What’s the tire for?🤔

[@loydcarrier2197]

For the 6Pdr anti tank gun it would have towed

[@dukwdriver2909]

Great to see 1 still running and driving. Breaks my heart to hear what you do to the gearbox and steel tracks at speed on the public road stretch is prohibited for a reason.

[@loydcarrier2197]

I am learning a none synchro gearbox, hopefully I will get better. Steel tracks are not prohibited in the UK.

[@dukwdriver2909]

@@loydcarrier2197 Steel tracks with rubber insert pads are indeed permitted. However, I would be very interested to know what Regulation you believe allows all steel tracks on roads at more than walking pace. The vehicle user/owner is also liable for any damage to the road surface. Or are you basing it on a spurious post from 2014 form someone who "thought under 4 tons was ok" but could not remember the Regulation creating a heresay myth?

[@loydcarrier2197]

@@dukwdriver2909 no, not at all. All the regulations say is that the tracked vehicle must have resilient material between the chassis and the road, thus rubber road wheels count, it doesn’t state that the tracks have to have rubber on the surface contact face. As far as speed goes, you are limited to 20MPH. Those are the UK rules as they stand in 2024.

[@andremaertens5964]

The tracks are smooth running ,they have no cleats like a tank , this was a handicap on ice and mud they do not damage the roads

[@dukwdriver2909]

@@andremaertens5964 They do when you skid steer.

[@power780]

Why does it have a spare tire?

[@loydcarrier2197]

For the 6 Pdr Anti-Tank gun that it would have towed during WW2.

[@power780]

@@loydcarrier2197 thanks

[@garyevans5335]

Sack the camera person.