LS1 VN Commodore hits the dyno

[@mathewmagus5150]

I’d relocate battery to the boot & mount catch can to the guard where the battery use to sit, would be tidy👌🏼

[@markcardy3157]

Looks like the Mrs is chasing some power with gearing upgrades to the old Malvern Star. Power at the wheels in the 300 - 400hp range is nothing to sneer at with good lowdown torque. Good to see you are not chasing numbers, seat of the pants will be the judge. Keep up the good work.

[@MindieJ]

Yeh we decided to go 4:11’s on the pink machine to get it off the line really good

[@Brendan.Wheatley]

Spot on about dyno's, they are a tuning tool! Unfortunately there are a lot dyno queens around, if big numbers and no practicality makes them happy, so be it! Thanks for another great video Chris. PS, that workshop is insanely clean!

[@MindieJ]

Very clean place I love it, thanks Brendan

[@stef3111]

Short diff gears lower power and increases torque. You have definitely made power through the tune as it reads the same as before but more importantly you've made a lot more torque. Good stuff!

[@impalethenazarene]

Oh too, imo....DEFINITELY no big cam in there either...I had stock LS1 VZ SS years ago... no internal top or bottom end work at all,...just pacemakers, 2.5 exhaust, high flow cat, mafless tune, CAi....struggled to make just over 300hp, so the old VN LS1is looking pretty good👍🏻

[@MindieJ]

Thanks mate

[@paulj355]

My car made a similar dyno HP but the setup and tune is the real key to performance and reliability. It peels tyres and pulls like a freight train - I couldn’t be happier. Awesome vid mate.

[@MindieJ]

What you end up running down the quarter again?

[@paulj355]

@@MindieJ best I could do was 13 something, tune was terrible black smoke and backfired all day Now that it’s tuned properly I would hope for low to mid 12 maybe?

[@MindieJ]

Get it out there again!!

[@paulj355]

Haha one day maybe. I’d rather watch you race the VN 😎

[@MindieJ]

@@paulj355 you scared of scratching that new paint haha??

[@craigmandall9420]

Ive seen a few blokes use the factory aircon accumulator as a catch can. You can use the factory mount and a fab shop can weld the fittings on an old one. It almost looks factory

[@MindieJ]

That’s a great idea

[@craigmandall9420]

@@MindieJ it looks factory as and all the fumes from the can come out the passenger side so no more stinging eyes lol

[@aussiegvmuscleandcustomrc6850]

Hey mate keep up the awesome videos👍 One word of advice don’t mount the catch can under guards or in front of wheels! The reason being is if the catch can overflows or fails the oil drops in front of your wheels and can lead to a very bad day at the drags when you end up in the wall or spinning out.

[@MindieJ]

Good call! didnt even think of that

[@miguelpaulino1895]

Awesome info bro!! Very true about the dyno numbers, they don’t really mean too much! Those heater hoses look to be off the VE series motor, my ls1 has the hoses at the bottom, running under the brake booster. Also be careful on the otr choice, I had an alloy one and used to get hot as hell.... I’ve actually gone with the k&n pod filter setup as it comes with a side compartment for the filter to sit in! Doesn’t seem too bad. Cheers!

[@TechReviews2010]

Mate don't worry bout all these keyboard Warriors talking crap, you have a nice VN mate keep up the good work.

[@MindieJ]

Much appreciated

[@TechReviews2010]

@@MindieJ No worries mate she's a beast and hope you are keeping it.:)

[@thefitter532]

HP wins arguments, Torque wins races 👌👌 way better tune.. interested to see your next time slip

[@MindieJ]

Raced it on the weekend that just passed, these videos are a week or 2 behind usually haha

[@mrbags5497]

Nice vid mate. Agree with your dyno analysis. There are so many variables, stall, gears, tyre size etc. will also affect the “number”, not to mention different dyno’s and ambient temps. It sounds healthy enough, could be right about the cam in there though, TK is pretty rowdy.

[@MuscleCarLover]

I mainly looked at the power figure to make sure there was no noticeable drop from the first run lol. Seems like it's all sorted now with better torque delivery. With intake temp, I think even a stainless heat shield would be in improvement, but sounds like you're for a more serious solution to that.

[@impalethenazarene]

Spot on dude, it’s called a Dynotune cos it’s....DAhhhh....a tune? The numbers on the paperwork are a bonus! And yah, I was one of many who said piss that god awful pod filter off....it really needs a solid CAI...plenty of options out there👍🏻

[@micko_]

Drivin a roadtrain still gota watch

[@MindieJ]

Drive safe homie

[@JEMMTB1]

Looking forward to the drag race, and it's already fast!

[@MindieJ]

next video :)

[@wagganationMFFM]

got an oztrack otr on mine, fitted pretty good, mech told me not to waste time with catch can.

[@MindieJ]

Will have a look now man thanks

[@blakesautomotive]

Every ls conversion I've done I have always used vz ss heater hoses and heater tap it works awesome, except I noticed you're running 4 into 1 1 7/8 pipes so that makes it really close as it is for the pipe clearance to heater hoses

[@MindieJ]

Yeh these headers need to go also

[@denselvq]

Being that air temp is hotter without a cold air intake can you do a video while at the track with set up as is, and then mount the new type for comparison ? Also is 55 degrees the coldest you will get disregarding the temp on the day ?would like to see others share temps from there dyno run for science lol. Cool video again, i love how you stage each video can wait for the next one !!

[@TBONEMALONE..]

Thankyou for another great video!

[@TBONEMALONE..]

Also brand and size of catch can? Cheers

[@matthewwall6722]

Can run the catch can up on the fire wall on passenger and use black lines to hide them if you run them over the motor, lines wont be to long. Have done it to two of my previous ls's

[@ls1hinchy546]

Judging by the last quarter mile run I reckon 220-30rwkw is pretty good for 12s👍 looking forward to the next run,can either move battery to boot or them heater hose's should be down along the side near the headers then catch can should fit on top

[@MindieJ]

Yeh mph/weight suggests around the 240kw mark, first dyno sheets are on par

[@thewraith6360]

Check out fullboost's last upload called " Budget build Holden Commodore sleeper" its literally your car but with a turbo, you plan to turbo it later?

[@MindieJ]

Was tagged in it many times haha

[@donkeyha6053]

It may have a big cam. But if its got stock springs it wont make much. My car picked up 70kw with double valve springs

[@MindieJ]

will be pulling rocker covers off in a coming video to check this

[@jameswillett118]

Really enjoy your videos 👍

[@MindieJ]

Thanks James

[@Sam-nl6tm]

Solid video bro. Love it.

[@MindieJ]

Thanks Sam

[@G_wizzle]

So how’d the car drive feel after the tune

[@MindieJ]

A lot better

[@comehonourface4115]

What a difference 😁

[@MindieJ]

Way better

[@frsr416]

Shops cleaner than my room

[@MindieJ]

Yep I love it, super clean

[@7071t6]

mate to shut everyone up put it on a hub dyno that way the rear kw at the rear hubs are shown, but even then its just the tune and not real world how she drives and if she hooks up really good when you send it?

[@Shakattack45]

1:36 bro i deadset thought my ps2 turned on for a sec

[@MindieJ]

hahahahaha

[@james22939]

Let’s go get the old girl running sweet as

[@MindieJ]

yehaaaaaaaw!

[@robertdinamo9931]

Hey mate is he preety good on the ls motors tuning wise?

[@MindieJ]

Give the business page a message to discuss with them

[@rabbitswyd24]

A nice dual plane manifold would set that bay off

[@MindieJ]

Was more thinking an LSA charger

[@warpumgaming7981]

my old vl used to make about the same power. id say though my trans was better best it ran on that power was 12.21 @117mph just normal street tyres as well. tried slicks once i stored them wrong and they were flat spotted and i almost hit the wall with the car bouncing. ran a 12.5 at 150km rolling from about 3/4 track. watching your drag vids the 2-3 shift is slack but running 12's is great for a daily car.

[@A_lesson_in_Hate]

70 degrees IAT's when driving is terrible I see 35-45 in normal driving conditions with a 2 hole mod standard air box in summer lower in winter, the inlet air temps can affect the dyno numbers just like a different dyno on a different day in colder weather so it may of made the power you have print outs for.... poor effort from the last tuner to leave the gearbox settings factory in a camshaft with a converter car,just about every tune I've done for someone they love the gearbox shift's just as much as the tune.

[@MindieJ]

previous owner asked previous tuner not to touch the auto

[@A_lesson_in_Hate]

@@MindieJ OK that makes sense his car his choice Cheer's.

[@RicksWorld91]

Honestly sounds like the VCM11 or comparitive cam.

[@MindieJ]

Won’t know til I pull it out at some point

[@RicksWorld91]

Definitely not the turbo killer though. I'm getting that cam in about two weeks - its idle is far more aggressive

[@MindieJ]

@@RicksWorld91 yeh it’s definitely not a TK

[@mirage75]

Bro you should relocate the battery into the boot, I reckon it will clean the bay up a lot

[@fetusmccarlane9627]

Ooof, on it!!

[@MindieJ]

👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@kenblade3409]

Ls1 is it cammed or stock. it sounds like it is cammed.

[@MindieJ]

Has a small cam of some sort

[@pauljohns8215]

Great video

[@MindieJ]

Thanks paul

[@stuey7777]

Bro, what happened to the bonnet struts? I see your using the old rod again to hold it open.

[@MindieJ]

They bent the hinges and smashed the windscreen

[@stuey7777]

@@MindieJ oh man! So how does everyone else do the strut conversion on a VN?

[@MindieJ]

No idea i just binned the idea

[@haularse2995]

Could use vs heater hose to bro or even vt-vz

[@MindieJ]

I thought it already has VT-VZ?

[@haularse2995]

@@MindieJ nah man vt styles the same as vs the only difference is the size of the prong where the heater tap mounts to the car

[@alphaone3704]

I’ll take it.. 🤩🤩🤩

[@MindieJ]

all yours

[@alphaone3704]

Mindiej93. Are you in NSW?

[@MindieJ]

@@alphaone3704 nope in melbourne

[@alphaone3704]

Mindiej93. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😫😫😫😢😢😢🥺🥺🥺😩😩😩😟😟😟😕😕😕

[@chrispapaioannou4756]

How much do they charge for the tune?

[@MindieJ]

Not sure man msg their Facebook page for a quote

[@donbon4204]

why ls1 and not l98 or similar

[@MindieJ]

I bought the car with the conversion already done

[@1992hdtaero]

Why stall so much?

[@MindieJ]

mixture of brakes taking vacuum and cam not producing vacuum

[@bigfich123]

Adamant that dyno reads a bit low

[@tmmtmm]

Or that 99% of other dynos read high

[@MindieJ]

mixture of both of the above

[@braydp1818]

Hi mate love the content I have my catch can mounted off the head it works well there

[@MindieJ]

not a fan of how that looks

[@FredmChoice]

Ive got my Catch Can (smallish Elite Engineering' Can) Sitting off the top left side of the radiator. Also added NGK TR6IX Plugs (one step colder) & Granatelli Zero ohm leads...My LS3 idle's smoother, just saying!

[@victorsmith5699]

Love the VN so much Chris..to be honest it doesn't sound like an LS at all (which is a good thing) it sounds so much like my carbied 355 stroker and im making the same rear wheel hp. Fuck that auto off its draining so much hp and torque and get a nice air intake and let that 🐕 eat.

[@MindieJ]

Yeh it definitely doesn’t sound LS, auto will be going in the bin soon

[@victorsmith5699]

@@MindieJ that's so good to hear your ditching the 4L6O...i hate them with a passion lol...a built Turbo 4OO with around the same size stall converter will make such a big difference in a good way and if its built right will never let you down. I'm really looking forward to what's coming next. Just out of curiosity what do you think makes the VN sound like a carbied 355 stroker?..is it the exhaust?...Cam maybe?.. Cheers Chris...love your vids and how meticulous you are with every tiny detail. Its so satisfying to watch. All the best mate.👍👍

[@nismofreak33]

fuck yeah booiiiiii

[@oldmatejoe5979]

Whats the easiest way to find one?

[@MindieJ]

Find one what?

[@dopeymcpostie3977]

Mace Engineering for your airbox.

[@MindieJ]

have just msgd them thanks mate

[@dopeymcpostie3977]

Also if you need more cool air flow, you could cut a hole through the chassis under where the pod sits, there was a bracket one could buy that was engineered to place on it after one makes the hole in the chassis but can't find it any more.

[@DRIFTCKOWN]

My VX with headers makes more power than that

[@DRIFTCKOWN]

@@piffiiiiiiit Of course. Does 11’s.

[@MindieJ]

my leaf blower makes more power

[@donbon4204]

running on e10 too lol

[@codeyjames7208]

Lol at the drew shoutout 🤣

[@MindieJ]

P-USSY!

[@peterclark4175]

Catch can behind LH stut tower on fire wall.

[@douglasdrift6649]

yea that's where i mounted my catch can looks good there's already a bolt on the firewall to mount to as well

[@MindieJ]

Will look into that

[@naxoslfdl7440]

My vx with headers 😂 fuck that’s gold

[@MindieJ]

😂😂😂

[@JaxonMurgs]

Stall the car up mate and see what the converters stall is at. The revs it starts spinning the wheels is what it’s stalled to

[@MindieJ]

Incorrect, stall speed is what it flares out to once off the brake

[@brodie1120]

10:40 I bet that bike need a tune

[@MindieJ]

nah she runs sweet

[@latinoenmelbourneeddiemari8324]

Sounds good but Looks like a Toyota lexcen converted to a vn, Toyota lexcen length 4850mm vn holden length 4896mm the little hex screws are a give away................................................................................................................................................................................. Only kidding mate awesome vidz

[@MindieJ]

Don’t even start!!

[@fossilfuelenthusiast]

Only someone with a low dyno number would say that. lol

[@MindieJ]

Haha I’ve always been a firm believer in not relying on any dyno numbers

[@grimreaper6112]

@@MindieJ more power is easy just more cash but it will become unreliable and turn into a money pit.

[@shaunkearns2169]

Da bike background yours

[@MindieJ]

girlfriends chariot

[@kidsink7896]

the only reason he said that is because his ls1 is a spud

[@MindieJ]

Haha yes most likely

[@7071t6]

basically it would drive or go like a VF or VE 6lt, but change the diff gears and it will even beat a vf or ve 6lt, because of the weight and the 4 speed auto IMHO as the VF 6lt has around 230KW at the rear wheels approx. put a OTR and good fuel and tune and with stock headers and exhaust it get to around 260KW at the rear tyres ,put full exhaust and hi flow cats and the number goes to around 285KW at the tyres.:) But you cant go wrong with a LS with OTR and tune, the pod filter needs to have a large inlet just under the front bar and have a closed inbox type set up and you will not have hot engine air going into the intake and like Steve said extra 10 HP at the rear wheels easy?

[@MindieJ]

You said it will drive bad with a 4 speed auto and those tyres and will ‘loose control’ no idea what’s brought you to that conclusion

[@fetusmccarlane9627]

7:54 🤣

[@DOMTHESAUSAGE]

factory vx ss numbers kind of weird change the cam

[@MindieJ]

As explained in the video, made 250 on another dyno with same tune, every dyno is different, no a stock VX will be 180-190 at the wheels

[@cjwallow]

The only number I'm looking for in my car is 10 seconds

[@MindieJ]

😂😂 good way to think

[@cjwallow]

@@MindieJ kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2fEnmWNhriXrtk It's gonna cost me close to 30k but you'll all see it by Christmas time this year hopefully. Blown Holden six auto 4 link combo coming soon MAD6EH will haunt Heathcote 😎🇦🇺✔️

[@tommyh3332]

So i guess he never took the steering wheel back for a refund, lol

[@MindieJ]

He sure did

[@michaelbender9021]

Fuck that got me aye Bro my vx with headers makes more then that hahaha

[@MindieJ]

😛😛😛

[@justingilliland272]

That’s a VP with VN wheels...

[@MindieJ]

Lol what?

[@johns1721]

Remember if you ever want to sell 💵💵💵

[@jasoncanvert1344]

Fuck the numbers mate as long as you enjoy it.. But this is you tube so buy and lsa blower cheap and make some numbers 😂

[@MindieJ]

LSA blower with adaptor plate is future plans it’s like you read my mind haha

[@jasoncanvert1344]

@@MindieJ do it.. I've got an lsa on 14psi and the thing screams. You won't regret it. Cheap HP. Yeah there's better blowers but the bang for buck is where it's at. The VN deserves it!

[@MindieJ]

@@jasoncanvert1344 yeh just big outlay that I’m not prepared to spend at the moment haha, ad a decent auto, new converter blah blah 15k outlay haha

[@jasoncanvert1344]

@@MindieJ I feel ya mate.. Cars are big outlays 😂 LSA engine made me build a tough T400 box, that made me build a 9inch. Never ends. One thing to another. I'll wait patiently over in the corner here for VN to be LSA powered 👌 don't sell the VN.

[@MindieJ]

@@jasoncanvert1344 will get a proper box before anything else

[@7071t6]

with those tyres and 4 speed auto it will feel so bad its not funny, lose control so easy its not funny and also how long do you think the auto and diff will last, unless its got a 6 speed and harrop or hsv diff centre?

[@MindieJ]

Explain? Why would it “loose control”? Auto I don’t expect to last they’re junk, borg Warner diff is fine people running 9sec passes on them

[@honda8192]

I don’t know why the fuck commodores have such low battery trays, it looks so stupid, My VT SS also has the battery mounted that low. My xr6 has it way higher and looks way better.

[@MindieJ]

To hide the battery

[@honda8192]

@@MindieJ if they wanted to hide it they would’ve put a cover over it, just looks dumb down there, love the VN by the way

[@turbotheamericanstaffy]

Literally every other car you showed looked nicer than the Yaris. Underwhelming.

[@MindieJ]

I’m sorry that our opinions differ

[@stef3111]

Short diff gears lower power and increases torque. You have definitely made power through the tune as it reads the same as before but more importantly you've made a lot more torque. Good stuff!

[@MindieJ]

Great point!