Meg Griffin: From Punching Bag to Pointless

Even at my Meg, I'm still a Family Guy.
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Meg Griffin: From Punching Bag to Pointless;
0:00 What is Family Guy About?
2:52 Meg Griffin Sucks
6:48 The Increase in Meg Abuse
11:45 The Removal of Meg Abuse
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[@LSMark]

What was your favourite Meg Griffin Moment 🤣🤣😂😂

[@HolidaySpirit04]

None of them

[@tomsmithok]

shut up LS Mark!

[@ericthedumbmet4699]

When Peter placed a booger on her

[@Veggiemold]

When she wasn’t on screen

[@jummy8273]

That one time she got kidnapped

[@HatKidTime]

Really hated that episode where Meg finally stood up to her family but just apologized at the end

[@willpower8289]

And it was Brian’s fault she apologized too!

[@Syisbraindead]

a hat in time :D

[@prageruwu69]

yeah, that infuriated me as a kid.

[@Kowproductions1]

This might be the most original opinion I have ever heard

[@Rons-Fansubs]

And after that episode, there was an episode revolving around domestic violence and trying to play for "realism"/. How. Freaking. Ironic.

[@JadoDog]

Meg's arc is so fascinating to me. She was a badly written annoying teen girl stereotype in the beginning of the series, but instead of writing her as a better character, the show turned her into a punching bag to cater to the audience. "See guys? We think shes annoying too!"

[@nickrustyson8124]

I personally blame South Park for that, and for the edge wave that came to Adult Cartoons at the time

[@allenkeettikkal3149]

I think the issue comes with fans not liking her character so they changed it so that the writers made fun of her before the fans did. Then they dialed it up to the point where even the fans felt uncomfortable and then finally gave up when they realized that Meg was a lost cause.

[@daniellopezoyola7561]

@@nickrustyson8124 why South Park? What you mean by that? Can you be more specific?

[@TVindustries5000]

​@@nickrustyson8124i disagree. south park started before family guy. the 2000s were filled with edgey content, its not all south parks fault. the treatment of meg as a character is unique and got to a point of nearly uncomfortable cruelty. beating a dead horse. oe meg in this case.

[@justaneditygangstar]

@@nickrustyson8124South Park is still in the edge wave they just do a wayyyyy better job utilizing it

[@ideenlos9242]

"That thing that plays under all the TikTok videos with the talking dog" What did I win ?

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Nothing! m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWS9ZHp9ZtGJa6s&pp=ygUYV2hhdCBkaWQgaSB3aW4_IE5vdGhpbmch&t=0m6s

[@McDonalds-Empty-Cup]

Family Guy plays under Family Guy?

[@baphometlovesyou6515]

بیلاخ طلایی

[@paxdamaxgaming4920]

Yes, your reward will be sent to you once family guy ends

[@ideenlos9242]

@@paxdamaxgaming4920 the question is what i win not if i win

[@huvarda]

(first 4-5 seasons) Family guy is a show about a dysfunctional family who get into wacky shenanigans (rest of the show) Family guy is a show about a family of awful people doing awful things to each other and strangers while reminiscing over pop culture references.

[@longestvideoever]

Honestly i still like family guy. Its just my trashy show I like to watch. Probably the same reason why people watch real housewives

[@bobmclovinelectricboogaloo]

My thoughts exactly this is what family guy is, not hard to come up with this fact.

[@Bolbi145]

First 6-7

[@notme8232]

Correction: Terrible people do a bunch of stupid random shit while making references every 7.86 seconds

[@mechajay3358]

Early Seasons: _"Shut Up Meg"_ Modern Seasons: _"Who's Meg?"_

[@thatoneguy3503]

Also modern seasons: F*ck off Meg

[@XxHipxX]

I mean, is it better to get negative attention or no attention at all?

[@MistyMoonie]

​@@XxHipxX no attention is better then straight up abuse, but it's just as bad

[@dabatman5187]

They’re going through the fazes of abuse

[@XxHipxX]

@@dabatman5187 faze clan

[@Tadicuslegion78]

"Meg is pointless" Meanwhile, Cleveland's kids are cardboard cutouts in the background never allowed to talk. Or Joe's kids except like once every 10 years, but don't worry, Quagmire gets all the time he needs to drag down an episode.

[@backbonepictures78]

Meg is a main character

[@dustinvance243]

And now Quagmire's more boring because he's not allowed to be a walking sex joke anymore. So like Meg, they're just throwing things at the wall trying to figure out what sticks. Giggity.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

@@dustinvance243 More than boring, he's an obnoxious Karen who wants to bully and lecture everyone around him

[@SpookyTheMimikyu]

@@Tadicuslegion78And the writer made that whole speech for him to Brian because they wanted to show the audience “oh, he’s so based! See, we hate Brian too!” When all of Quagmire’s points are hypocritical. At this point Quagmire is just the “based and red-pilled” character

[@MylingCyrus]

Meg is supposed to be a main character. She's in the main family

[@thema1998]

To be honest, Meg's abuse got very old and tired before she became boring again. It's actually nice to see her get better treatment! 😅

[@ng_canadian]

“Describe Family Guy to me.” “Shut up, Mark.”

[@MrAjking808]

Thought it was funny huh

[@Adog00]

When I’m at my lois, I’m still a family guy.

[@IvanTube0]

keep cooking 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@jjjabbers]

You were supposed to say "Even at my Lois, I Meg it happen."

[@apimpnamedstreetmeat]

Even at my Lois, I’m still griffin it my all

[@jackeroni216]

even at my lois im still brian my best

[@BrokeBoyInFilm]

"That's me at my Lois, no Peter Griffin" - Denzel Curry

[@Veggiemold]

I never understood all the hate towards Meg, she isn’t ugly or rude to anyone. She just kinda exists.

[@NakanoMiku-chan-z2m]

she looks just like Lois who is considered attractive by the show's standards. It never made any sense.

[@Peter_Lankton]

That’s kind of the point

[@Phosphor_Sco]

​@@NakanoMiku-chan-z2mMeg fat. Lois no fat. Fam guy

[@Ego-Fiend]

​@@NakanoMiku-chan-z2mmaybe she has a better body and no glasses? 🤔

[@NakanoMiku-chan-z2m]

@@Phosphor_Sco I call her chubby at best

[@kylesugarman]

Genuinely a little depressing seeing those clips from "Chitty Chitty Death Bang" in the intro where Peter was genuinely excited about Meg's cheerleading tryouts and encouraging of her ambitions. That was actually the first Family Guy ep I ever caught on Adult Swim as a little kid 😭 It's so strange seeing that scene back to back with the lightning rod monologue from "Seahorse Seashell Party". Family Guy was never a show about consistency or anything, but it's weird to see it go from sugar to cyanide to just flavorless chalk dust today.

[@popplio7891]

Family Guy: A Simpsons-style animated comedy starring an eccentric family that places its cast into a variety of situations, differentiating itself from its contemporaries with edgier humor, musical numbers, a reliance on unrelated “cutaway gags”, and references and parodies to beloved films and TV.

[@featherguardian6023]

I still don’t understand why the Writers think making Meg Likable is so Hard when it’s so Easy.

[@ArunaUtd]

The thing is as well, they already succeeded in that during the bully years. Meg got bullied but still did a ton of honorable things which showed how selfless she was. That poem she wrote about hope was honestly beautiful. But then the writers felt a need to justify their bullying of Meg by making her a bad person and giving her lines like "I'm part of a group that trashes Anne Frank's house every year"... like cmon how are we gonna root for a person who does that? They should've just taken bully-years Meg and removed the bullying.

[@sarahweekes4829]

they dont know how to write her, which sounds like an excuse at this point after so many years. they can just hire someone or practice making teen girl characters in the show in the background if they wanted to start even learning so they can put more effort into her. I know some have daughters, they could literally take from their own experiences.

[@diddymoe6816]

It's almost like Mila Kunis is the awful person they are making fun of huh? ​@@sarahweekes4829

[@diddymoe6816]

Probably because Mila Kunis is insufferable

[@PhoenixRising87]

@@ArunaUtd Hell, I just read that kind of characterization as her being psychological fucked over by being raised by a self-destructive man child and a selfish rich bitch.

[@SpyderByte2099]

I think American Dad portrayed the daughter character better than family guy ever did. Haley was a sort of punching bag for Stan to throw jabs at, but she was her own character that was interesting and will be shown in a good light once in awhile when the focus isn't on Stan. Episodes show her good traits when they're about her. She has emotional moments with Stan too. Idk if this really made any sense, but Haley is a better Meg.

[@phabiorules]

Not to mention a lot of the tension between the two comes from their differing political opinions. Peter just hates Meg because he finds her annoying.

[@SpyderByte2099]

@@phabiorules I agree. I love the episode from, i believe season 1, where they explain where this political tension comes from. Like their early moments and how much they loved each other, until she grew up and realized she didn't support this same side. I think it's a great dynamic between the two. I also personally love that episode Lol

[@skybryant1910]

She also dose not just take the abuse all the time. She stands up for her self. We also we Stan dose love Haley and care about her.

[@equidistanthoneyjoy7600]

@@phabiorules Also, because there's a sort of justification, it always comes off more like Stan sees her as a dumb kid that doesn't know what she's talking about; and not like he just hates her. Definitely helps that she's proven right sometimes, and not just a punching bag.

[@BertoxolusThePuzzled]

She's the result of an affair by Lois, if I remember correctly. It doesn't really excuse it but it does explain it.

[@aannoyingcaat]

Honestly, this is something I’ve noticed with a lot of media tbh. A lot of writers don’t take criticism seriously. If you say “I don’t like how Meg is treated.” A lot don’t go “ok let’s take a look at what we’re doing and what people are saying”. They seem to just go on an extreme. Either they do a complete 180 and make whatever was complained about worse in the opposite direction, or they just start stripping away bits and pieces without actually improving what’s left It’s like if you said “I don’t like the sauce on this meat loaf, I wish it were sweeter” and the chef either removes meatloaf entirely from the menu or starts coating it in pounds and pounds of sugar. It doesn’t fix the problem, it just makes the problem different. It feels kinda, narcissistic in a way. Like they think their idea is good so to show you why yours is shit, they go on the most extreme they can with it and make it shit so they can then go “well, we tried it your way and you still hate it so???” Honestly makes me kinda hate a lot of writing teams in that regard. It feels like I’m just being talked down to in a way

[@Nox.x_ART]

Exactly. They probably know their critics have a point but they don’t want to change, so they misrepresent the criticisms so that they can say their way is better or that the critics don’t know what they are talking about. It’s frustrating to see but there really isn’t much that can be done about it because we can’t really force them to change. We can’t force them to listen to us so they will continue to do what they want for as long as possible until eventually they can’t anymore or people stop watching their show after taking off their rose tinted glasses and realize it kinda sucks

[@FarelForever]

I was never that much into Family Guy, but I did still notice the shift between the early seasons and the later ones in terms of how Meg was treated. And as some have pointed out: It's shocking that Peter being an abusive prick to her, but making a speech in private to Meg that he still loves her, and just has to keep acting the way he does to seem cool is considered to "have heart", whereas if this was at any point said by Homer Simpson to Lisa, it'd be considered the most insulting modern Simpsons episode ever.

[@morganfishman5897]

I'm gonna take a crack at that challenge: Family Guy is an adult animated Television show which showcases the adventures the citizens of Quahog get into. Its humor is usually derived from pop culture references, references to the 80s, or the shows unique "Cut-a-way" gags. It shows almost no continuity. Edit: Sad that I have to even SPECIFY this, but no, this was not written by AI. I simply thought for a solid minute or two on how to describe the show without name dropping the Griffins.

[@lennahcmarblesmonstersandm6070]

I applaud how you were able to do this without directly referencing the family itself

[@LSMark]

pretty solid

[@Ranolog]

​@@LSMark family guy is about a dysfunctional family

[@keatonrozema5787]

Pretty good, only one problem: made using AI

[@morganfishman5897]

@@keatonrozema5787 ..... And what, pray tell, led you to THAT conclusion?

[@SBGamer30]

I can’t stand what they did with Meg. When she FINALLY stood up to her family and called them out, I thought her character arc was going to skyrocket. Nope. The writers make her apologize and go back to be the punching bag. 😒 I got tired of the abuse for nothing. Not only does her family hate her, the whole town does and I never understood it for her character.

[@YodaOnABender]

“Remember, if your family constantly abuses you, that’s a good thing because it makes everyone else feel better” - family guy

[@truanalain4266]

​@@YodaOnABenderare you actually trying to treat family guy like it has moral messages? 🤣

[@YodaOnABender]

@@truanalain4266 I will when the show presents it like a moral message going on about that stupid “it’s important for someone to be the lightning rod and absorb everybody else’s anger” bullshit

[@truanalain4266]

@@YodaOnABenderI mean, it's family guy. they can do an episode about quagmire's sister being abused and how domestic abuse is wrong, but it's still family guy and you're still a moron for thinking that family guy has good moral messaging

[@SBGamer30]

@@YodaOnABender Its insane they really try to make it sound like she was doing the right thing. 😂

I never understood all the hate towards Meg, she isn’t ugly or rude to anyone. She's just there💀

[@Toaster_189]

8:09 lol Mark don't tell me you've been using a Fanon site for sources in your vids, because that's pretty funny if you are. That's not the actual Family Guy wiki dude. Fanon is a portmanteau of Fan Canon, aka fanfiction. it's even on the front page of the site you used: "A collaborative wiki dedicated to two things: the creations and ideas of all fans of the Family Guy, and rewriting the hit 1999 classic!" Lots of franchises have "fanon" wikis which are completely unrelated to the actual wikis, you should always avoid fanon places if what you're looking for is purely a cataloguing of canon and official works for a series/franchise.

[@cryspbytes1037]

Remember when the characters had actual depth and personality rather than just being one constant stereotype in place for a joke? Neither do I

[@KirbyIsCute]

"Hey Lois, remember the time we had depth and weren't just stereotypes?"

[@BB-te8tc]

Imagine if this was a cutaway gag

[@ReduckYT_]

Pepperidge farm remembers

[@Juicebox993]

Like Chris wanted to be an artist

[@usernotfound_____yet]

​@BB-te8tc If it was, then the screen would've just faded into an empty black void.

[@kingbash6466]

It was always strange whenever the show tried to make her seem ugly or unattractive. It feels like that trope where a female character has glasses, but the moment she takes them off, she's suddenly drop-dead gorgeous. Like her high school friends fit the "unappealing buttmonkey" way more than Meg ever could.

[@Sunneh2013]

Fr

[@penguinspenguins2376]

When she worked as a TSA agent, she was the most attractive one working there.

[@stijn3085]

How do you people miss the point so badly?

[@kingbash6466]

@@stijn3085 I'm all ears on trying to find out the point I'm missing apparently.

[@lateformyownbirth]

It’s more confusing to me because she looks almost exactly like Lois, who is apparently super hot?

[@mrsmclsotherstuff695]

I too was unsettled by that message Mr Enter would put at the start of his old videos when I was a kid, and the old intro he had for Animated Atrocities in 2014 because the music was scary-sounding

[@TheDigitalApple]

Megs only trait was punching bag for half the shows run and once the writers even got sick of that, she feels pointless now!

[@medusasea791]

To be fair, I prefer her current situation more. Yes, it's boring, but I prefer innocent boring characters compared to innocent punching bags (I am talking generally, it can work if the character stands up for themself, or learns to, or if the pain is more cartoonish than mean spirited and they recover quick).

[@justaneditygangstar]

@@medusasea791the other way is more funny though and she’s a fake character anyways 😂

[@plantain.1739]

​@@justaneditygangstar I mean ofcourse, there's only so many times you can beat up the same character before it's just kinda sad. Like it's not morally wrong or anything, but at best, it's a dead joke, and at worst, it's just kinda... weird feeling. It's like squidward. Like at a certain point, I just don't care to see him in pain. He's just a pretentious bitter asshole. I get making fun of doing "Avant Garde Clarinet" but I don't wanna see him get a toenail violently ripped out. It's just kinda disgusting.

[@kingdomcomesuperman3669]

I'd say Family Guy (intially at least) is about a dad (the titular "family guy") trying to raise his family from what he learned watching family sitcoms, "good old-fashion values" but applying them so literally/exaggerated that the hypocrisy of it being better than modern day television is shown. Or its just takes the premise of the Simpsons household, makes every member able to talk, and add cut-away gags.

[@alexpotts6520]

This is surprisingly deep. It's probably a more thoughtful take on the show than Seth MacFarlane himself has ever given.

[@chrishill9197]

Family Guy is basically just Seth McFarlane's version of The Simpsons but with cutaway gags and more violence and ruder jokes and more swearing.

[@bdeamon1]

Speaking of useless things, it's crazy how the clone high reboot basically went from a charming parody of teen dramas to basically just a teen drama with a few jokes.

[@Kittenfox_55]

The Smiths from American Dad feels more like a family than FAMILY Guy The Griffins for a long time.

[@Koopalingfan]

Big time. Though the Griffin’s did also feel like a real family in the earlier seasons.

[@PowerRangersFanAntiDinoFury]

Let's be real, even though American Dad is better the smiths are still bad people, just like the griffins. They're both made by Seth MacFarlane and probably have a lot of the same work staff.

[@cedricfowler3465]

I remember Mark saying in his every Family Guy episode review that everyone hating Meg is like Homer strangling Bart & it struck me that unlike Homer & Bart' s dynamic, Meg's only comedic angle was her misery. I even remember episodes where Meg would dissappear for the episode's remainder after one joke where something bad happens to her.

[@gamemaker1802]

I imagine a lot of that was just down to Mila Kunis being very busy and not having much time to record for the show other than a handful of lines for episodes. She doesn't really tend to do much work now, but she was still a huge leading actress when in the 2000's and 2010's, and having a main or big supporting role in movies is far more time consuming than a lot of people really tend to think. Now though, she tends to focus more on her family, and isn't acting in two or three movies/shows a year, so her schedule is far more accommodating to record Family Guy episodes than it was 10, 15 years ago.

[@Dave102693]

@@gamemaker1802then why did she take over the role in the first place?

[@Xen8008]

Megs only trait was the punching bag because the writers genuinely didn’t know what to do with her, when said abuse was removed she became pointless. She’s fundamentally broken as a character since she was never fleshed out in the first place.

[@spade565]

If I were to describe the show to someone I'd go like this: "A family in Rhode Island called the griffens interact with their neighbors and community which result in many different scenarios happening to their surroundings"

[@theferydra8753]

Ah, the good old "I mistook a Fanon wiki with a FanDOM wiki". The former are effectively collective fanfics in wiki form (They're the ones responsible of things like Lucina from Fire Emblem being Peppa Pig's nemesis, for example)

[@LSMark]

I did not realize there was a difference...

[@morganorwhatever]

I was so confused when I made that mistake with the kids next door fanon wiki. Like, when did all these characters get married and have kids?

[@DawgBarkz]

@@LSMark yeah fanDOM wiki is the legit one, for better or worse LOL

[@alexpotts6520]

I kind of want to know the context behind the Lucina/Peppa Pig rivalry, but also I think any actual explanation couldn't be as funny as there being no explanation at all and just letting the idea bathe in all its surreal glory.

[@landonstrong9686]

Fanon = Fan canon. so as OP said, fanfics basically. Or commonly-accepted elements amongst a subgroup of fans that aren’t truly canon, but said group is willing to treat as true.

[@cheezbunni3530]

Family guy is a show about a family living through what is considered a normal day in rhode island while seth macfarlane occasionally changes the channel to a different animated comedy show every couple of gags

[@KenzoUnderYourBedLol]

hey lois

[@Ulmy2ndchannel]

Family guy is a show where there is a family, a dad, mum, and three children and two friends of the dad who hang out at a bar

[@chrisgomez1262]

Family guy is about the chaos surrounding a family

[@N12015]

Family guy used to be about how a family guy tried to use TV tropes/Pop culture to raise his family, which ended up failing miserably and forcing said father to learn about it. It's famous for their cut-a-way gags to add comedy, which were usually an entertaining flashback who actually contributed to the plot.

[@jddi1527]

Really?

[@1366Erik]

​@@jddi1527Nope, not really.

[@jangorook4257]

Family Guy is a series about 5 people and Chris who try to survive another day of their miserable lives, but if they die, they live again next week.

[@wajowski]

Singling out the REAL pointless character, I see.

[@Dolliv5]

I think modern meg is a badass. She’s athletic, talented, and has basically stopped caring about how other see her, instead focusing on her own goals. I love modern Meg

[@guypguy]

0:34 oh yeah? Family Guy is a show about a family who have many misadventures together or seperetly, with a bunch of fisical comedy and gags (their most popular format being the cutaway gags)

[@skloiber101]

I can’t stand how there are a few episodes where Meg can shake up the status quo like with her bond with peter on the college tour or when she stands up for herself and it just never amounts to anything and makes you question what the point of that was

[@lacriaturadekentucky]

**cracks knuckles** Family Guy is a TV series about the humorous day-to-day adventures of the citizens of Quahog, said humor usually manifesting in pop-culture references and cutaway gags. I didn't use AI, I swear. This is me writing.

[@TheCursedCake]

Does it count if i say family guy is about terrible people doing terrible things

[@rapidlyvids]

8:13 The site you saw wasn't an actual Family Guy wiki. It is a fanon wiki. Fanon wikis are wikis where people make their own series, episodes, movies, and games out of their favorite IPs.

[@billbill6094]

Plus even assuming it was the actual Wiki his criteria for what's a real episode is if he can find it on hulu, when streaming services remove episodes of cartoons all the time. By that criteria, the panty raid episode of Spongebob never existed, because the iconic episode that played all the time on Nick has a Wiki page but no Hulu listing.

[@loglad5394]

3:09 Springtrap is my favorite family guy character.

[@GlitchyHypnoFlower72]

“Boy this is worse than the time I worked at Fazbear’s Fright!”

[@BriaBri]

The sonic unleashed music in the background just sent me back to the past

[@BardiXOfficial]

7:49 this is the annoying fanon and not the actual wiki, just a heads up!

[@roberthall8503]

I like it how when meg actually stands up for herself, she becomes unlikeable

[@ChicoStopMotion]

“When I was a young kid, at around 10…” Your parents let you watch Family Guy at 10? My parents only let me when I was 13 and still only certain episodes 💀

[@LSMark]

My mum got really upset and banned me from watching after seeing a segment where Peter dreams about killing Lois but that ban only lasted about a week

[@dusttalesans932]

@@LSMarkYou watched a LOT of Family Guy when you were 10, didn’t you lmao

[@HorrorMonster4406]

I remember when I was 4-5, I would just watch adult swim or nick at nite. The only scene I remember was Stewie killing Lois in the episode when she and Peter went on a cruise.

[@Xx3nxX]

@@LSMarkhow did you survive during such family guy deprivation

[@Therealburntmilk]

I can't watch it until I'm older (born in 2010)

[@PK_SNESS]

6:48 "It's like they knew they could get away with anything". Did you think you'd get away with that visual glitch? lol

[@aaronkelly1762]

Family Guy is an animated sitcom about a disfunction family and their crazy antics, with some cutaway gags. That's the best I can do.

[@mightbeolives]

My attempt at a family guy description: The show follows a family of five in quahog, Rhode Island. The family gets into shenanigans everyday, and the humor that comes along with it is equally as random. You proved your point that was ridiculously hard for no reason any description comes off as bland.

[@bombiss_9124]

It’s a sitcom, it’s not a show you’re supposed to binge. Try describing what the Simpsons or Full House are about

[@floobix1]

@@bombiss_9124dohnut

[@Snake_Man7136]

In the past: Everyone:"Shut Up Meg !" Nowadays: Everyone:"Please Meg do something...Something Meg !"

[@rhodered5479]

If you don't like me at my Meg, you don't deserve me at my family guy.

[@user-gy9fv3pb4f]

3:47 holy shit that cut was phenomenal

[@swiftlyaswiftie]

The episode where family Guy had her go "wow I guess I NEED to be abused" only for them to write a 'serious' episode about Quagmire's sister being abused (which btw they heavily imply that she's in the wrong or weak for) made it so I could never take any serious moments from quagmire as genuine

[@stephenvogt6689]

I always felt bad for Meg

[@chrishill9197]

Cool! That's the female Gundam from G Gundam! I've been wanting to watch that show! 😁

[@Medlair]

Family Guy is about TV, it's about tropes, you can see this in the opening where the characters sing about how TV is always the same, you can see in the second section that all the characters act as if they know it's a show and the title itself has a TV symbol. Notice how almost every joke subverts common tropes, even when it's about politics you see them heavly criticizing the ideology presented in the joke, I can remember Chris showing up in a Trump joke and he said "Look! I wrote this joke(gets angry expression) THAT'S WHAT YOU DESERVE (type of people name I can't remember)" or something like that, it showed how Family Guy is even parodyzing jokes that take a clear political position, I remember those people who comment "haha family guy is wild, no one is safe!" Yeah, neither you. Now let's take my favourite episodes, the ones where Stewie kills Lois, if we analyze it, it's played very meta and parody-like, Stewie feels like another Stewie, the plot gets bizzarre even for Family Guy standards, it was played as if it was the defenitive ending of Family Guy, and how does it end? It was all a simulation, Brian asks Stewie if people are gonna be mad about this and he says that yes they do but they should enjoy the ride. If that doesn't prove that Family Guy is about common TV tropes... I don't know what it is. Family Guy is the OG meta-narrative, that's why it works with it and with shows such as Velma it doesn't, because with Family Guy it's the whole point

[@DJBarbaricErik]

Around a decade ago I saw a cracked article putting it perfect, something like “family guy is in a weird meta state, just a commentary of itself nowadays”

[@Porygon2ube]

Family Guy is a show about cartoon characters trying to preform a family sitcom as they gradually get more and more unhinged until getting tired and then burning out entirely as the seasons moved on. I still love the line where someone points out a contradiction or something and Peter goes "I don't know its all just jokes."

[@Porygon2ube]

The "Live in Vegas" album really helps make my point clear

[@handsoffmymacaroni102]

This is the biggest flaw for a long-running show to me when long running shows who create their characters under a certain cultural era and then are forced to change them later. They ultimately forget what made the character special and just choose the more wacky traits and ignore the more nuanced and complex ones leaving the character feeling soulless.

[@Lavenderdrago]

“Family guy is about a family of five and a talking dog and their wacky antics with occasional violence and foes with may cutaway gags” boom there

[@godlymineral9673]

I honestly think they failed more at keeping her main concept alive mainly bec they stopped treating her like a teenager at all after she turned 18, and she's succumbed to the same "quirkiness" that ruined lois since they wanted to try and MAKE there be a reason why the world accepted her as disgusting (and then suddenly made her gross as an ACTUAL quirk instead of her being gross only in the context of jokes or in the actually relatable "gross freaky teen i can see existing" way) -- I LIKE early meg the best of course but middle season meg was definitely better than now. Now she's just a character that feels like a cop out for the writers because she's unhinged enough to be in any situation and also enough of an "adult" and "teen" at the same time to use her alongside any character. I remember I found that one episode where Seamus had a crush on her really weird but also that was what made me realize that after the quagmire episode to the writers meg was no longer a "teenage girl" anymore and would no longer be handled with the same "care" that she was before (I say care but i more so mean that like. in the sense that even despite family guy's abuse of meg it still had the shock of "shes a teenager" and she was still constantly portrayed with a naivety/immaturity of a teen, Seamus x meg never would have happened before without some pedo subplot and now she dates other adults all the time, it just feels lazy and like they see meg turning 18 as an "opening" to pair her with newer characters which has always been a lazy 'make boring plot slightly more interesting' cop out- while also at the same time making trump and brian act all groomy over them (and meg's same-aged friend in brians case) as though NOW all of a sudden its weird) -- I wish there would be an episode that addresses her abuse better before changing it without saying anything (they could make an episode addressing how bad it is with a terrible resolution but not an episode with a good one...I'd see how it could be repetitive if EVERYONE had one but family guy shouldn't care about reptivity lol....also it'd be kind of earned by that point after all of meg's torment lol. I know Peter and Kind of Chris had episodes of them making up with meg but it still wasnt even the focus...I think Peter and Meg have been the only relationship I'm fine with the result of currently (when they use it right. Meg scarring Peter is funny when he's not trying to hate her.) but the chris episode is a butt episode so i dont count it)

[@godlymineral9673]

Like she literally WAS "the teenage girl" -- when I was a kid, I saw MYSELF in meg because I TOO was the second shortest of my 2 siblings. Now meg isn't the teenage girl. Now she's the "weird woman that wears childish clothing that we'll only acknowledge as a teenager when its relevant". They probably lost track of that because of them throwing away the whole "family" aspect though because there's less (simple plotlines) to get out of a teenage girl that isnt "family" "popularity" "romance"

[@downysgarbagebin5105]

i think toonrifictariq perfectly described family guy. a middle aged father who tries to apply television logic into different scenerios, some of the time tries to apply it to parenting. while doing that, also paroding pop culture, and current events.

[@Xavlee]

I was also gonna say toonrifictariq's head cannon always felt like the best family guy premise to me

[@mrfox9090]

Basically that description also fits perfectly with The Simpsons

[@PieceOfJayVA]

i love how toonrifictariq put it it's about a man who tries to bring fortune to his family through the morals he learned through tv. shit just makes sense

[@GorillaMon541]

0:25 I guess I'd say Family Guy is just simply about the random adventures and mischief of the Griffins and how each situation affects the family and/or their dynamic (until its returns to the status quo at the end of every episode)

[@isaagamerplays]

Family guy is about random stuff that happens to a family with either really bad or really hood cutaway gags. Boom.

[@Iwidelyoutliveeverything]

my man went to a fanon wiki and was shocked to find things that were fanon.

[@LSMark]

I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE

[@LightBloxVidsYT]

“Megatron” *ROBOTS IN DISGUISE.*

[@ottagol1985]

I've always thought they treated Meg like crap was because they were tired of the many teen stereotypes on TV, and this was their mockery of it.

[@jonathanrolle2046]

Family guy is about a man in his 40s using lessons from TV shows he grew up with to raise his family.

[@2007hondaaccord]

Family guy is a show about Walter Hartwell White

[@pinheadstar]

it's about chinnuts

[@3MB3Rx134]

The pfp makes this 100x funnier somehow

[@2fortcow]

@@3MB3Rx134Yours sucks though.

[@mr.awesome6011]

No

[@Randomdude112]

Hey Lois, remember the time LS Mark made a 15 minute video about our daughter?

[@doomedwit1010]

My favorite cut away from Family Guy is when the Trix rabbit takes out those kids after they tormented him for 20 years. Take note Meg.

[@genericfriend2568]

A man lives with his family, causing and partaking in chaos in a town where nobody is levelheaded.

[@firegoatdx6869]

3:08 Ah yes my favorite Family Guy Character, Spiringtrap

[@br_ButteredToaster]

Would be interesting to see how Haley Smith, another daughter in a sitcom life, has turned out. Probably more, since American Dad has a lil more depth to the family.

[@twigwigsoso]

I've started watching American dad again since i was a kid and man these later seasons do treat her with equal respect as the rest of the family with is little but equal. Everyone in the smith family is always equally in the wrong at times, it reminds me kinda more of it's always sunny now then family guy. Haley doesn't feel like a punching bag, she feels like a character who can be wrong and do terrible things but so is everyone else

[@Koopalingfan]

⁠@@twigwigsosoI quite agree and it’s also nice that they learn from each other and call out each other, so it’s more fair. Also Francine and Hayley are much better feminists than Lois and Meg.

[@owenleal]

The last I saw, Hayley was kinda going on an arc of turning slowly into Stan.

[@Koopalingfan]

@@owenleal Okay

[@oilking-bo3gt]

And Hayley IS Not the puncging bag ITS Klause

[@michaelxd9306]

The sonic unleashed soundtrack in the back is beautiful

[@mariocollisionmaker]

The interactions between an imperfect family heightened to a 11 while delving into dark humor.

[@Real_Furious]

Family Guy is about Peter Griffin and his family’s antics …………

[@Generic-Cat-Drawing]

Crack at the challenge: Family guy is a comedy show made by Seth Macfarlene.

[@deboxmojave6541]

The surreal, cartoon antics of an eclectic modern American Family, including a talking dog and a talking baby genius.

[@rezinicodragon]

Family guy is about an average style family from Rhode Island which originally was played out to make fun of the stereotypes of each member of a nuclear family Peter being the dad with the office job who’s having underlying alcoholism, Meg being an average teenage girl going through puberty and issues with self esteem you could probably say the same abt Chris but he’s also he’s kinda “stupid” and the mommas boy to some degree. Lois is the unemployed house wife and stewie and Brian are kinda their own thing but eventually branched out into just the family getting into pure chaos and cutaway gags

[@MrBooblo]

That "take a bullet for Meg" edit was next level, thank you

[@aaunyea4799]

I enjoy the times they make Meg unhinged, but it's obvious the crew have no idea what to do with her character

[@greggrodgers6875]

family guy is a satire of a sitcom show now about being satire of real life events and blowing up regular activities by %100.

[@Ducky935]

Family guy is a series created by Seth McFarlane back in 1999 that incorporates running gags, cutaways and slapstick humor to make the audience laugh, the show revolves around the Griffin family as they go about their day to day lives that come with some truly wacky or impossible senarios alongside their misfit band of neighbors and friends that result in some sort of lesson being learned by the end of the episode.

[@caitlinabbott7895]

11:06 "You guys always act like you're better than me!"

[@solidraven6986]

"Oh my god who the hell cares!!" - Peter Griffin

[@koopa4218]

A satirical comedy that drives humer from making fun of a topic, and cutaway gags

[@cupidreindeer5601]

Easy challenge. Family Guy is about a group of actors playing the roles of a nuclear family whilst getting into misadventures that lead to either perilous, emotional or severe situations with inconvenient cutaways.

[@jddi1527]

I see

[@SonicGlitchy4]

Family guy is about a dad who is obsessed with tv from the past, trying to find a decade to live in. and needs to learn to move forward. that's why in the theme song it has "It seems today that all you see Is violence in movies and sex on TV But where are those good old-fashioned values... On which we used to rely?!"

[@EduardoGarcia-ww8su]

Family Guy is a show where each episode presents one or more members of a family making choices in hopes of finding solution to a problem, only to cause entirely different conflicts.

[@SwinubPlush]

I think I would summarise the plot of Family Guy as "Average Dad doing not-so-average things."

[@TheDecentt]

Family guy is an adult animated comedy about a family and their friends and neighbors getting into various silly antics.

[@redwaytoo]

10:35 yo that thumbnail goes super hard

[@SnuggieMaple]

Family guy is a show where a bunch of people just throw random shit at a board

[@snausages43]

Family Guy is about that time something happened and those who remember it.

[@claypot]

fanon wikis are a bane to people trying to research any basic information about any series

[@Zedd.y]

Family Guy is a show about the misadventures of a disfunctional family