One thing about the retro Cube is that because midrange is so much less dominating, you have space to play these more specialized, kinda whacky decks. It's just hard to compete with things designed to have an impact in a 4-player Commander game like Minsc & Boo, Canonneer, Bombadiers, etc. Right now, I don't miss them.
@brianh584413 күн бұрын
This format definitely gives LSV more room to cook and have it work out. You can't really do that when your opponent's 1-4 drops win the game on their own and you lose if you don't have removal or your own game-winning snowball threat.
@artemi710 күн бұрын
This honestly feels like a better cube overall.
@862841613 күн бұрын
The lack of broken answer-or-lose-threats is really a blessing. Love this cube list.
@gippygames13 күн бұрын
LMAO that "carnage" mindgame at the end was fantastic
@marcogoncalves320713 күн бұрын
Carnage into instant concession. Absolute cinema!
@dementievatz13 күн бұрын
I had to explain to my kid why I was laughing at my phone. 😂
@cyclopentadien222112 күн бұрын
Gaby was right about coercive portal.
@BlowntoBytes13 күн бұрын
Shoutouts to the MVPs of this deck: The enemy Urza and the enemy Retrofitter.
@coolerdaniel989913 күн бұрын
I liked the deck so much in this video, I ended up sharing two separate moments from it with my friend; when you tricked the opp. with Coercive Portal, and the T1 smokestack game. Both of those wouldn't have happened in a generically powerful vintage cube.
@gavinblue353413 күн бұрын
mulldrifter in various retro cube decks is the greatest content there is
@ZeroIsEven13 күн бұрын
T1: Black Lotus, Mulldrifter, win
@jasonbelleisle75727 күн бұрын
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊00000
@servantofdiscord358612 күн бұрын
Wanted to thank you for all the vintage cube videos throughout the years, but especially over the last couple months. I only really play magic when I'm drafting cube now, and had a really bad cube season the last time it was out. Almost decided to stop drafting cube altogether. Watched your videos and your months long losing streak and actually found a lot of solace in it. Gave retro cube another shot and won 9 trophies! Now convinced it was just a bad cube iteration and I look forward to future iterations!
@matthewbell489713 күн бұрын
One of my fav videos in the last couple months, SUPER FUN draft
@TheGregoryodd13 күн бұрын
Happy we got to see the nut smokestack draw… was one of my fav vintage cube decks for awhile and good to see it in action again 😊
@turbobrew13 күн бұрын
That smokestack game was sick. The original stax.
@asdfjajsjajsj941013 күн бұрын
This is the cube content I love! I wish you'd use a cube like this on the server drafts, but IDK if its what everyone prefers to play.
@coreylemoine492013 күн бұрын
Big same!
@parkcollie-zd6jo11 күн бұрын
I’d love if retro or old order cubes got more play in the divination
@jaceee415412 күн бұрын
The nostaligia in these retro cubes have been 10/10 i would NOT mind more of these
@milanfillipi565612 күн бұрын
If this episode isn’t a sign that retro cube needs more airtime to mix up the cube vibes, I don’t know what is. Many blessings to your new twins and can’t wait to see the new retro cube draftmancer list in the rotation one day!
@tepidgoose3 күн бұрын
This is an awesome cube. I also love that I know the vast majority of cards, instead of recent cube iterations where I don't recognise a lot of what's going on
@mikeweeks69413 күн бұрын
Passive effect artifacts were Continuous Artifacts back then.
@bufels12 күн бұрын
this is such an improvement over the regular vintage cube, wow- i liked the idea of this cube but the games play out even better than i would have imagined
@dylanm907112 күн бұрын
I don’t frequently comment but I just have to say how much I’m loving the classic vintage cube videos!
@wtsnoot13 күн бұрын
I am really enjoying seeing consecrated sphinx back on top
@Dr.Detractor.Steffie13 күн бұрын
The most excited i have been in your videos in weeks xD was to see if tangle wire came back..
@jeffreyculbert209313 күн бұрын
I was very much looking forward to it wheeling too. So sad, not to be today.
@jrjamesson12 күн бұрын
carnage! this video saved my life. thank you LSV!
@monogreen13 күн бұрын
This is the sweetest Academy deck I've seen in a while.
@philosopherhobbs12 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I like this Cube overall but I like having fewer I win cards. Overall I want a Cube with powerful enablers+engines and less I win combos. Caleb Gannon's came close.
@TheHeterolifemates13 күн бұрын
“Hangerback Walker Texas Ranger” 😂
@thenormiedave13 күн бұрын
That shamequit on coercive portal was gold
@simonemengozzi67789 күн бұрын
Smokestack is the card i most miss of the old ones in the cube, so much fun playing with it
@CuriousShrimp12 күн бұрын
52:30 I love the fact that Coercive Portal is one of the few cards that get much better online, cos of stuff like that 😂
@anthonyjs80488 күн бұрын
Loved this deck and video!
@anosmianAcrimony12 күн бұрын
This is exactly the kind of deck I've missed for all the years since the cube pivoted away from this kind of thing!
@lucasmohallem813612 күн бұрын
I’ve been really enjoying this cube!
@wouterleten198211 күн бұрын
Love this draft. There was a near perfect storm deck in here as well with that pack one
@hamishfox12 күн бұрын
M2g2 was sweet. It brings back all the glorious memories.
@jewpcabra66613 күн бұрын
I love mono u artifacts ans love the stax - g1 I was praying for the metamorphic + or combo and I was so happy to see it. edit: t1 smokestack is my dream m I love this ggs!
@EnzoGarabatos12 күн бұрын
I'm looking forward to your own retro cube! Retro except for Noise Marine, that is.
@LizEllwood13 күн бұрын
You know. I'm 38 seconds in and I gotta be honest, you know how absolutely insane it must feel to get passed a lotus
@Kumagoro4213 күн бұрын
That player must have thought LSV's connection went down.
@paulallison397413 күн бұрын
stacks, remember when mtg players embraced their sadist and massochist sides... i approve :)
@paulallison397413 күн бұрын
and hail to 90s magic
@vinni52211 күн бұрын
Winter Orb was originally printed as a “Continuous Artifact”you didn’t need to tap it to have an effect but it the effect shuts off when it’s tapped somehow.
@mjm223512 күн бұрын
Regarding the Carnage on the Coercive Portal: You said that's not going to happen again. Not that match, no, but that was the 2nd time I have seen that work for you!
@georgea412412 күн бұрын
This cube is great. I felt some of the normal cube decks devolved into who got the better opening hand (I feel this way about a lot of more recent magic TBH). You still get fun broken stuff like metalworker for 8 though. It also seems like there's more variety in general. The normal cube list has bombs and cards that never see play.
@TheSamzidat12 күн бұрын
Few people can get as giddy as LSV over smokestack retrofitter battles
@bettorup_13 күн бұрын
He can't keep getting away with that portal play!
@eggu182812 күн бұрын
LSV is once again playing EDH at this point. Sol Ring, Sphinx, Winter Orb
@Gussyboii13 күн бұрын
Before watching the games this deck looks like a dream...
@j33w2212 күн бұрын
You were right the first time LSV. It was Mono Artifact
@WhiteNameVibes13 күн бұрын
The carnage click was the best
@christopherlundgren170012 күн бұрын
Winter Orb and its ilk were "Continuous Artifacts", artifacts that have a global effect that is always on unless the artifact is tapped. Mono Artifacts are the ones that tap to do something (implying once per turn), and Poly Artifacts have activations that don't require tapping.
@mattcook775713 күн бұрын
I have been enjoying the cube power level where consecrated sphinx is playable again!
@85mcarnold13 күн бұрын
16:35 Continuous Artifact
@jeffreyculbert209313 күн бұрын
Excited for this smoke stack. Gonna be a fun one.
@jeffreyculbert209313 күн бұрын
Oh yeah… that was a sick smokestack game. Copy opponent retrofitter too, heck yes. Blast from the past right there. Made my day.
@BarginsGalore12 күн бұрын
LSV getting his pick order from Stephen smith
@jonesdarryn113 күн бұрын
no regrets on lotus brainfreeze. i agree with ur choice of sol ring over lotus. ive seen u pick lotus first pick pack 1 twice and lose. 1 of those times u had lotus, 2 moxes and mox diamond. also, u have beaten ppl who had lotus + ancestral
@Zii_Vii12 күн бұрын
On my phone it looks like you got that Zorg haircut from the movie 5th element lol
@artemi712 күн бұрын
What the heck do you think your opponent thought when they load into a Cube Draft, sees LSV is passing to them, and then the GET THE LOTUS lol. They have to be wondering what you could have opened lol.
@christopherjohns77213 күн бұрын
The Sol Ring is better in this kind of deck. You wouldn't want to lotus into a mana rock or some draw a few cards spell, and the payoff cards are generally past 4 mana. However, unless you just plan to force this deck or some variant, the lotus should always be the 1.1 pick.
@Vermilio89313 күн бұрын
Just wrong, 5-10 years ago it was extremely common cube knowledge that sol ring was the best p1p1, bar none. Most of the impactful cards cost 4 or more mana
@nomukun113812 күн бұрын
Is there any rhyme or reason to the inconsistent Signet frames?
@Gummiebearzz13 күн бұрын
will you do a foundations cube?
@coreylemoine492013 күн бұрын
Brown town? Retro cube is the best!
@MarkChaney-b8k12 күн бұрын
You all should put this cube list in your draft server it might be crazy team games
@petersan963313 күн бұрын
I was curious at around 34:40 attacking the daretti, if you were going to upheaval wouldn’t it have made more sense to attack the player? Was wondering what was the rationale with the attack towards the planeswalker
@LSVargas12 күн бұрын
It was definitely an error hah
@Grimestep13 күн бұрын
lsv will you sign my birds of paradise
@Seldomheardabout13 күн бұрын
Screw that, I want him to sign my Bible.
@ruudvanlaarhoven577613 күн бұрын
See? You open power and you pass it, no more complaining😂
@garagavia11 күн бұрын
Where can I find this cube list?
@HazmanFTW11 күн бұрын
16:42 if I remember it was continuos artifact
@Stokkeland2313 күн бұрын
That vamp and play a Yawghmoth knowing an Upheaval is coming was really something. Yeah, let's pay 2 life and cast a completely useless spell. Bizarre
@modernmcfly541113 күн бұрын
Casually cast 18 mana worth of spells on turn 4, no big deal.
@dementievatz13 күн бұрын
I loved when he had the option to not use Ancient Tomb when hard casting the Portal to Phyrexia.
@benlittle554313 күн бұрын
*squints at face cam on my cell phone New hair cut? Stylish
@BloodMoonGo13 күн бұрын
What a game 1
@godaska12 күн бұрын
maybe black lotus will wheel?
@mitchhak213 күн бұрын
Hot take on the first pick but I agree.
@maclowe125413 күн бұрын
You should adjust your cube to be more like the retro cube, it's so much more fun than the current vintage cube, so much more variety not just a midrange slugfest.
@Nalianna12 күн бұрын
16:40 Continuous Artifact.
@RW7777777712 күн бұрын
this is the cube deck from 20 years ago
@Rasgael0113 күн бұрын
The instant regret
@newscoulomb370513 күн бұрын
16:19 The term was "Continuous Artifact".
@Kumagoro4213 күн бұрын
What a time was that to be alive. Mono Artifact, Poly Artifact, Continuous Artifact. Why was it that this one card type needed to have not one, not two, but three separate declinations? Only Garfield knows.
@Marksmaan13 күн бұрын
Cube 4-5 years ago, this and storm were the strongest decks imo. (Other than red but low to the ground red aggro isn't possible in retro cube since no Goblin Guide etc). But I never played storm. Its a fun deck to watch, but I don't have enough experience to do it well. So this artifact deck was always my favorite to play.
@Slimpster5203 күн бұрын
LSV, what's up with that hair...?
@drackan258213 күн бұрын
Carnage value
@danpickett227913 күн бұрын
These drafts are almost unwatchable without the sorting.
@mitchhak213 күн бұрын
What do you know when the cube is more about synergy and good decision-making Luis is back to stomping fools. Just goes to show the new cards are taking away from the game we (used to) love.
@kakafluf13 күн бұрын
I really miss the team/more modern cube, this retro one really is really not for me xD
@thebudguy1213 күн бұрын
Going to give myself an aneurysm. Can't stop screaming out loud "and then HeEeEEeEre."
@randlechris13 күн бұрын
poly artifact
@Sodmaster11112 күн бұрын
Continuous artifact actually
@TheDasErdinger13 күн бұрын
MTGA is broken every 2nd update so I guess it could be worse
@koopk112 күн бұрын
I think i kinda prefer this cube to the commander cards