Lucan. UK Season 1 Episode 2

Lord Lucan goes on the run. As the police begin a manhunt, his friends rally round.

[@ledlight6630]

The saddest thing in this story is that poor girl Sandra, she was killed and nobody mentioned her in the court , thanks very much for uploading this miniseries, 🙋‍♀️💖

[@allandavies1642]

I am amazed this has not been viewed by many more people than noted above. A moving and sad story of adiction , love, murder, and tragedy sensitively portrayed in this masterpiece of a film.

[@starquant]

People aren't interested in the persecution of women, society tells us they deserve everything that's coming to them because that's what misogyny does....

[@user-nc6kj1iv3m]

It's almost 2024. Lots of comments now.

[@technodemic6258]

Disgusting how the "upper class" group of friends bandied together to protect one of their own, as if the murder of a "common" nanny didn't matter a whit.

[@technodemic6258]

@Motorhome mick Most probably.

[@technodemic6258]

@Motorhome mick They've had a channel for 350 years? You'd have thought they'd have been taken down by now.

[@technodemic6258]

​@@khepresh I used the term "Upper Class" advisedly, because that's what they're known as (John Cleese in the famous TWTWTW sketch with the two Ronnies, viz). But it's actually having pots of money that allows some people to protect their own, more than others can. Sure - you can have closed doors on supplying information, but I think this was more than that, in that he was actively assisted in his escape. And I think you're wrong - they wouldn't have been so keen to help had it actually been his "Upper Class" wife he'd succeeded in bumping off. There would have been more of a moral outrage among his contemporaries and his social circle. So I can't agree with you - his position in society, and his wife's, definitely made a difference, as the documentary I think portrays, by reminding us how litle an account was attributed, particularly in the press, to the poor victim and her family. And I'm watching it because I personally knew some of the people involved. For the same reason that I'll watch a clip on the ESSEX BOYS murders. So watch your fucking step, asshole. Hope you've been vaccinated. That way you'll soon discover how malignant the "conspiracy" actually is. Any preference for the flowers by your headstone?

[@007EnglishAcademy]

Allegedly

[@mariamjehn7071]

Sickening!! Poor lady !! Poor children.. But the Nanny .. my lord I do believe in his narcissistic brain he had some regret over her!! But I believe the end of this tale!! He did not kill himself he disappeared!!

[@sisterkerry]

Note the Aspinall inscription. He said Lucan wanted to " *Repossess* his children ". Men like Lucan should not be put in the same category as loving fathers. All these men care about is power. They want custody simply to win a game; they don't give a damn what is best for children.

[@mikeheap7978]

Oh you know so little of the minimal rights fathers have in court when it comes to rights of access to children. God only knows how many women have lied over the years in order to control custody of children. Your coments are so ignorant and historically and in fact incorrect.

[@sisterkerry]

@@mikeheap7978 I note that you defend a father as an appropriate man to have custody of his children, when the man has bullied and abused his wife (the mother of said children) tried to have her put in an insane asylum, stalked and harassed her, murdered their nanny with an iron bar by beating her head in (with the children in the house), and the final dénouement, beat their mother with the iron bar when he realised his mistake. The plan being to murder the children's mother and win his possessions. The children. None of this could be considered conducive to children's wellbeing. Primates and mammals; in fact all members of the animal kingdom, are raised by female mothers. The offspring of just about every species on earth are raised by the female. Most with almost no contact with the male. A woman's body goes through cataclysmic physiological changes during pregnancy, not simply the obvious ones most people will be familiar with. The Physiopedia summarises: "Pregnancy and its changes is a normal physiological process that happens in all mammalian in response to the development of the fetus. These changes happen in response to many factors; hormonal changes, increase in the total blood volume, weight gain and increase in fetus size. All these factors have a physiological impact on all systems of the pregnant woman; musculoskeletal, endocrine, reproductive system, cardiovascular, respiratory, gastrointestinal system and renal changes." The male physiological change is ejaculation. A study published in Nature Neuroscience (2016) shows that pregnancy drastically and permanently changes the woman's brain. The study reveals that: "...during pregnancy women undergo significant brain remodelling that persists for at least two years after birth" The Research team at the University of Barcelona discovered from scans that there are significant grey matter changes in brain regions that control social cognition and theory of mind, which is the neural network that helps us ascertain what someone else is thinking about. The regions also activated when mothers looked at their babies. "These changes, that were still present two years after birth, predicted women's scores on a test of maternal attachment, and were so clear that a computer algorithm could use them to identify which women had been pregnant." There were *no* changes in the brains of fathers or non-parents. The neural changes between male and female brains are currently understood to begin when the baby is about seven weeks in the womb. The male baby gets a giant surge of the male hormone, testosterone. This process kills off cells responsible for emotion and communication and increases areas responsible for sex and aggression. The female brain continues to develop in those two areas unabated. Studies now determine a strong biological disposition for female babies to be interested in people; male babies things. Care has been taken to ensure no bias in the predisposition of ideas about sex is featured in the conclusions. Early studies, concluded that female babies were picked up more, but later studies determined that female babies made more eye contact, indicated they wanted to be picked up and were more easily comforted by human interaction. The conclusion is that from the earliest time, the male and female brains are being prepared for their different roles in childrearing. In addition to noting that you thought the male should have custody of young children without taking his personal traits into account, I also note that you show no concern that children have need of a mother. I, in contrast, indicated my respect for "loving fathers". The first thing a loving father will do, in my experience, is respect the maternal role and not attempt to usurp or dismiss it. Women are more adjusted biologically to attend to the needs of the children, whereas fathers are more inclined to teach. This would be observed by anthropologists in tribal customs, and archaeologists putting together the habits of early communities. I believe that in complex human society it is advantageous to have mother and father working together to raise children. I respectfully acknowledge the important role played by loving fathers. Two social problems have arisen from the same ideological source. Terrible damage to marriage and the family by the nineteen-sixties sexual revolution, and todays androgynous gender ideology led by leftist feminists. We have not the space to unpick the mess of all this. Women/ mothers are being terribly badly damaged by these feminists. The economy having warped their natural proclivity to raise their own young into virtual impossibility. Marriage is seen as just a sex thing, with no responsibility, duty, honour or respect. Undoubtedly, men are also being treated with terrible contempt by this leftist feminism. They will tolerate men only if men are doing as they're told - which is to not act like men. The whole gender ideology is insensible nonsense. For example, they claim their is a gender spectrum, but do not except their is a gender binary. By definition, a spectrum is a point between two extreme poles. The two gender poles are the binary masculine and feminine. The spectrum depends on the binary for it's existence. Sensible men and women are floundering about in this ridiculous narrative, and everyone is harmed. There are undoubtedly some women unfit to be mothers. Certainly, the way they are being raised does not help them transition to marriage and motherhood. The problem is not just the fault of their parents. One cannot subtract the effects of education, media and entertainment in shaping the views and person of the young. But they grow up confused, and lacking skills of maternity and homemaking that would make their future transition easier. They would also be better wives, if their femininity was nourished, so perhaps not divorced in the first place. Having I hope made it clear that the masculine influence is vital, and that not all women are fit to be mothers, I must state clearly that there are some men who want custody of the children in order to spite their wives. They know that the only thing they can do to destroy a woman's life is to take away their children. Some have used the analogy that the "umbilical cord is never cut". A woman has a biological connection to the children that a father simply does not have. A man _choses_ whether to be a father and connect with a child. The mother does not. Taking children away from their mother is a form of evil with it's own circle in Hell. I believe it should only happen if it can be clearly proven that she is unfit. Even then, every effort should be made to help her be a better mother. A simple, if uncomfortable, fact is many men do not want much to do with the children of a woman he has lost interest in. We must encourage a man to not abnegate his responsibilities. Wherever we go from here we are floundering in a giant mess. The key word to solve this mess is respect. Respect and a dusting down of common sense. Women will lie to keep their children. They will kill also. Their maternal biological imperative must never be denied. Men who are loving fathers will always respect the importance of the mother. If he tries to take her children away the chances are he hates her and that is his motive. A clearer case that this would be hard to find.

[@mikeheap7978]

@@sisterkerry I'm not defending that father. I'm defending the 10's of 1000 fathers who have to fight a bias justice system just to get any access to their children. That father deserved no access while many thousands are forced to fight in the courts for any access. It's a scam to exchange money from families to lawyers but causes so much misery for fathers and children. These mothers who obstruct the fathers from real access to their children are parasites and there are far more of these about than fools like Lucan.

[@sisterkerry]

@@mikeheap7978 You didn't have enough basic respect to acknowledge the points I went to great trouble to make. This is the problem I suspect you have, an inability to see beyond yourself. A typical trait of one of the fathers I cite. A man who is embittered by the mother of his children. You do not acknowledge the importance of the mother at all. You do not consider the needs of children, only the wants of embittered fathers. Mothers also go through terrible problems in the law courts over custody, yet you do not consider that either. Motherhood is natural and powerful; perhaps there is nothing quite so powerful. It is interesting that most fathers wanted nothing further to do with the children of women they had lost interest in - until they were called on to pay child support. Only then do they start claiming they want custody. There is no question of access. Fathers always get access. I have been told that in America, even rapists get access to the outcome of their crime once their prison term is up. Certainly, violent men get access to their children. Many women are murdered every year because of it. You claim that I do not have fact on my case, I have demonstrated that I do. In science, tradition and observation, women are biologically equipped to care for children. Men are not. Fatherhood has a place, but motherhood must never be undermined in order to assert it. Young children are best placed with the mother, unless there is serious reason why they shouldn't be. Fathers should have access once the children are old enough to cope without the full-time presence of the mother.

[@mikeheap7978]

@@sisterkerry I accept yout point that children should be with their mothers, in most cases that's the best place. My point was regarding appropriate access to the father, the best situation for any child is to have 2 caring parents involved in their lives. What often spoils this is divorce and the whole argument about money, then the needs of the kids gets put on the back burner and battle between the parents commences. Please don't presume to guess what happened in my situation. Suffice to say I can attest from personal and related family experience that children need both parents to be involved in their lives.

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

What an inadequate man he was

[@selmahare]

Inadequate must me the under statement of the century, want to try that again? How about entitled, misogynist and narcissistic, psychopath!? Most common sense based people would probably find the latter a far better fitting description of the thing you just called a man.

[@normanseagull4027]

The boys club always sticks together. Interbreeds.

[@marilyntape508]

Like the Mason politicians in Australia 😼🇦🇺

[@mellie9633]

All those Etonians and Oxford/Cambridge lot are a bunch of reprobates but they get jobs in government and finance and it's these arseholes that run the country. Ol' Boris is the perfect example of who they are and a number of others for having the same faults!

[@keeley-jasminemaxinecavend9780]

It is good that this film emphasised the tragedy of Mrs Rivett's death and its impact upon her parents. Many reports refer to her only as "the nanny" and, at her funeral, the only flowers which were not sent by her family came from the police. Not one of the Clermont set even bothered to send a tribute. Shameful.

[@johnf.santino6446]

Sandra, the nanny who was murdered, is played by Leanne Best. She is the niece of Pete Best, the drummer for the Beatles who was replaced by Ringo Starr.

[@novak-wq9dw]

Wow, I never knew that. She does a lot of work.

[@michaelrg3836]

The true villain of the piece is Aspinall.

[@shirley8155]

Very entertaining documentary. thanks for the upload. Infortunately, this breed of people do still exist, many of them having a hard time keeping up their houses (ah, poor things). They often have direct bloodlines through hundreds of years when the kingpin man was awarded land, and peasents to work it, by a king. More recently wealthy snobs built their fortune on trade such as slavery, which was responsible for the death of thousands of people being transported. Yes folks, that's our heritage, deep in our culture. And so on... Of course, do bear in mind that our present day culture has it's own shameful, horrific activities going on around us. Society will never have liberation, equality, or even humanity because the fundamental human movitations are greed and power. Only my opinion of course:)

[@izzy9132]

As a woman I am most taken by the fact that his wife ended up being an unfit mother. But of course Lucan was an unfit parent too. Thank God his wife's sister did the right thing presumably offering their children some stability in their teenage years. I was so glad they gave some recognition the the one murdered person Sandra. This trial was thoroughly covered in the US. and I was fascinated with the whole thing.

[@kallivino8346]

Shand Kidd ! These must be relatives of Princess Diana mother?

[@bonniemagpie5166]

@@kallivino8346..... Frances.... Camilla, were the names of their children, funny that hey.

[@13699111]

Thank you for posting this series.

[@marilyntape508]

Very interesting 😊🇦🇺

[@gabrielepresby9120]

I’m thinking the French revolutionaries had a point in beheading a lot of the aristocracy. And I’m only half kidding. Jesus, Mary and Joseph, what a bunch.

[@vivienwilliams1538]

So agree with Anthony below. Sandra - completely forgotten in this mess.

[@monikaszymanowska5142]

Family. Can be the greatest joy or the most terryfying nighmare of our lives.

[@cidercik]

As can neighbours

[@catherinepositano8544]

Yes!..look at the Windsors!

[@TheWendable]

@@catherinepositano8544 I’d rather not.

[@Justacupatea]

Thankyou loved it Perfect sunday morning x

[@elizaf.9040]

Lady Lucan prevailed. Sandra was mentioned as was necessary to the plot and was given an "in memory" in the closing.

[@rkh7904]

Very interesting. Thank you for the insights into this tragic story.

[@susanroberts6573]

Excellent British drama 🌈💐🐈‍⬛🌹

[@selmahare]

What are you talking about, this was actually real life, a real woman got murdered. Tf?! People are so stupid, so infantile, to talk about the Lucan case like that.

[@pygiana16]

Very good miniseries. A lot based on speculation, no one knows what really happened. I only wish they’d cast a better actor for Lucan.

[@quentinduplooy9868]

You're correct the actor appeared 'wooden', but let's remember the character. Wooden, a barely containeded, narcissistic psychopath

[@paolatrentadue3034]

Thank you for uploading this video. Sometimes Upper class get away from being prosecuted as they find support from people like them.if they haven't money they wouldn't get away Poor nanny...She paid a high price for working for " untouchable"people!!! thank you very much💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@kgraham5820]

This just goes to show that money, upbringing and titles can’t buy class, then or now.

[@aftabgill1648]

Wow..... Life, Gamble and Time.

[@manjirabanerjee7169]

This is class apart !

[@MariaRodriguez-gb5pr]

Really good movie based in very sad reality

[@timrutter7095]

Excellent thank you

[@anthonyufert8477]

Poor Sandra. No one seems to talk about her murder & her parents loss. Very good documentary.

[@sabinereynaudsf]

It is not a documentary. I rather look at this as a drama.

[@TheWendable]

Its not a documentary.

[@anthonyufert8477]

@@TheWendable My bad. Sorry I blew up

[@sueannnatter5295]

Docudrama

[@user-wickedflower]

@@sueannnatter5295 it’s a 2 part series based around the Lucan story, some events were changed to enhance the story.

[@2charliep]

Just to remind people the social circles we’re talking about, Peter Shand Kydd was Princess Diana’s stepfather.

[@keeley-jasminemaxinecavend9780]

William Shand Kydd

[@fredflintstoner596]

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky. " Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

[@Aliese11]

Loved this!

[@anjelica9520]

On the second thought seems like Aspinall maybe got rid of Lucan. ..

[@eshaibraheem4218]

Wouldn't put it past him. Complete bastard

[@Staggercfc]

Rotten to the core.

[@marilyntape508]

A really bad egg😼🇦🇺

[@novabinainsani9477]

Amazing 👍👍

[@ticopipa]

Horrible domestic violence and abuse. Yes, poor nanny but his intention was to kill his wife. Psycopath, abuser, narcissistic and his children sided with him?

[@selmahare]

That's what I find so very odd, the fact that that this one girl, the middle child, actually witnessed him doing her mother in like that, and still sided with the monster. WTF?! How fucked up is that?! Mental, just utterly mental! It feels to me like his family and that entire disgusting circle brainwashed them growing up. But regardless, as adults they should have been able to grow up to be able to see things for what they actually were. I'm glad for Veronica that she no longer has to be in this sick, very demented, psychopath packed world.

[@sohara....]

Spoiler Suggestion of where Lord Lucan is now. .... * * * Aspinall said: "Of course, he's dead. He's at the bottom of the English channel."

[@selmahare]

Hopefully.

[@-htl-]

Well made movie-doc. Shameful how inconsidered the aristocracy is and including having zero consideration for the murder of the gouverness. If Aspinall truely was so much involved he would never had let him come back due cause the events. Including he would have been harbouring a fugitive, a crimal offence.

[@ariellegabriel]

I lived in London as a young would be artist and was fascinated when a totally stoned out of it hippy came into my friends boyfriends famous New Age bookshop across from the British Museum...he was more far gone than our average hippies, scarcely walking and on some worse unknown drugs...After he left, we were told he was famous UK nobility...fact!

[@sisterkerry]

I know the bookshop you are talking about. It is an interesting observation you make. This bookshop is a few leagues up from New Age. It sells serious occult books and was known to be frequented by many people who formed or joined occult associations...

[@selmahare]

@@sisterkerry I know the place too. I did my Master's around the corner from it and the British Museum, at UCL. I'm also what people call a new ager and have always been seriously put off by that place, never made it in! It just has an off vibe, probably left lingering by those people you mention, precisely.

[@duantorruellas716]

Makes war of the roses look like a walk in the park. But the grabbing of the family jewels brings the action to a holt. 39:33 to 39 :58 lol.

[@janetbransdon3742]

Brilliant. 🥰

[@islesofshoals3551]

Loved Christopher Eccleston as John Aspinall

[@The22Jeanne]

"Lucan" (©itv 2013 British TV thriller, in 2 parts) --> could easily be given a subtitle like "Portrait of a 1970's British Lord Gas-lighter" (example / illustration : 3:43) --> 20:57 "... was the only person to admit to seeing Lucan alive"

[@paulanovelli258]

Awesome movie documentary drama what ever you want to call it Veronica looks like midel Paulina Poriskova. I was mesmerized for 3+ hours. Highly recommend ❤ the gaslighting though was terrifying.

[@vickinoeske1154]

Lucan had to be delusional.

[@sandraward116]

..I think lord aspers killed lucan to cover his own secrets..can't have that open ...🤔🤭🤔😏

[@selmahare]

If only. Let us hope that-that really is what happened. It's the next best thing after having him actually pay for his crime.

[@charlesstephens5974]

Reinforces my utter contempt for the English aristocracy

[@johnday6392]

What do you expect from a bunch of Normans?

[@MrBobthebird]

People who have not, Will always try to bring down those who have.

[@charlesstephens5974]

@@MrBobthebird well I consider myself as “a have” as I have worked and earned it. As opposed to inherited wealth and title, the arrogance of the aristocracy is beyond contempt. High time for a republic and termination of the aristocracy.

[@MrBobthebird]

@@charlesstephens5974, While they have faults like all walks of life. To destroy them just because you would like a republic seems like jealousy to me. Remember Lord Lucan is not here to defend himself. Too many people have been executed in this country on false evidence.

[@davidhull7115]

@@johnday6392 Aspinall considered himself a Saxon, unless that line was invented.

[@donnacrozier2003]

Well done! Really makes one wonder about the upper class, mmmmm???

[@robertjones-eb4xo]

Good TV Movie if slow, think Chris Eccleston very miscast , I kept thinking he was acting. James Fox should have played his part.

[@markc1894]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@jaymesguy239]

Interesting speculation, but I think the simplest explanation is the best. He had already hired a boat, or borrowed it from one of his 'friends', most probably, in order to dump what he hoped would be the corpse of his wife, Veronica. That's why he brought the cloth sac to the house. Now, instead, due to the change in circumstances, he used that same boat to commit suicide. It seems fairly self-evident to me, whereas the counter-stories are more contrived.

[@anastasia10017]

narcissists don't commit suicide.... I'd say he took the boat to France and then disappeared. he didnt have much money so he would have had to go somewhere cheap... Egypt ? Morocco ?

[@user-nc6kj1iv3m]

When I saw the first scene I thought that he feels invincible. But I will not second guess her. We've all seen "her" in our daily lives.

[@feyhanemli1507]

Uninvolved mothers

[@taiikomochiyuurichin1459]

Lucan encountered Veronica and a man struggling in the kitchen? And he did not bother to stay around? And the Dowager saying that Veronica was under treatment when custody was awarded to her based on a sanitarium saying she was sane? Sounds like they were setting her up for incompetency. And Lucan's actions certainly show that the upper class banded together to save their "integrity". They all tended to go to the same public schools or same set of public schools. And socialized in the same satellite orbits.

[@hootsmon4723]

And to think these types are in the government...... Public school is a breeding ground for these types ...

[@user-wickedflower]

These “types?” Generally public school isn’t a breeding ground for any “types”

[@hootsmon4723]

@@user-wickedflower my apologies madam, 🤣🤣 , grammar school or schools you have to pay for, and here was me thinking ,thats what public schools meant, as opposed to normal schools ,which are public , think its Google time for you , You may apologies later , thank you very much lol.

[@hootsmon4723]

@@user-wickedflower still no apology...........you should have went to a better school to learn manners ....... 🤣🤣🤣

[@hootsmon4723]

@@user-wickedflower have you looked at the government latley ... 🤣

[@user-nc6kj1iv3m]

Remember to push like. I keep on forgetting when I get too caught up.

[@feyhanemli1507]

Still offering to help him such a weakling

[@conniecibert5336]

She was waiting for a moment to run for her life.

[@selmahare]

Not hard to understand that-that was her buying time. A chimp could probably figure that out. Duh?!

[@jamesdevine1005]

Savile s friends...by jove...

[@moe9196]

21:29 Aspinall is a cult leader with an effect over his followers as bad as Charles Manson

[@traceyedwards2648]

What is the Definition of Stupid Frustrating Delusional Evil

[@user-nc6kj1iv3m]

51:32 Do monsters really want to be reunited with their children. Right. Their property.

[@kimdawkins7074]

Confusing relationships between them all Just so unhappy

[@AT-cy7im]

the Clairmont club was a shady bunch that made their own rules, were ruthless and defrauded businesses and people, who knows how many they have done away with.

[@suzymac27]

🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😤

[@anastasia10017]

I cant understand/hear half of what Lucan says and apparently, neither can the subtitles. am I the only one ?

[@Maria-qg6gg]

Que pena que no esté en español

[@sandrataylor5063]

i note that the brothers name is Bill Shand-Kidd. Wasnt Camilla married to a Shand-Kidd?

[@duantorruellas716]

Murder most foul lol.

[@eshaibraheem4218]

No laughing matter.

[@anjelica9520]

PS. What was his name, Hospice or Aspinall??..

[@rhondathibault59]

Stupid toff-y babytalk nicknames, Aspy. The British entitled class all speak like infants.

[@marisadallavalle393]

Good grief this was a very long advertisement for cigarettes!

[@mike06052]

Where on earth is Part 1 ?

[@selmahare]

All you have to do is type it in and you'll find it. Can you type?! 💁

[@mjl.9-19]

Super well done... although the main thrust was a mocking of the inner workings of some small group of supercillious English "nobility" which I found stinky. I would have much preferred a police procedural point of view as the main perspective. The narration by a neutral observer was good but not enough.

[@technodemic6258]

Dominic Elwes is also a million miles away from the real thing. He was one of the funniest men in high society, and his association with the affair led him to commit suicide.

[@wk1810]

Cary Elwes' father.

[@technodemic6258]

@@wk1810 Correct.

[@eshaibraheem4218]

@@technodemic6258 Elwes was cut off by Aspinall, Goldsmith, and all that set. It ruined him.

[@technodemic6258]

@@eshaibraheem4218 How strange. You'd have thought him all the better for it.

[@eshaibraheem4218]

@@technodemic6258 Yes, but he couldn't find any art dealers or art galleries who would handle his work, after the Clermont shower branded him a pariah. He couldn't even get a table at a decent restaurant. They were complete bastards and ruined his life.

[@eamoc]

I thought this was going to be that 1970's show...Lucan: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucan_(TV_series)

[@alandale9371]

why are the coppers wandering about by torchlight - put the b....y lights on

[@user-wickedflower]

Power cuts

[@MrBobthebird]

While I don't condone that he was egoistic, remember he is not here to defend himself. A very dangerous president to tell one side to a story. All that is said here, He is not able to argue agains

[@carolinebarnes6832]

I think the word you are looking for is 'precedent'.

[@MrBobthebird]

@@carolinebarnes6832 That's correct, But I think the point was still made. ??.

[@carolinebarnes6832]

@@MrBobthebird Yes, the point was made.

[@MrBobthebird]

@@carolinebarnes6832 In to-days society, It seems it is easy to talk bad about those that are dead, But no one has the nerve to say anything when they are alive. Jimmy Savile being another example.

[@MrBobthebird]

@@carolinebarnes6832 As a matter of interest, Why is an intelligent Lady up at this time of night,?? ,correcting spelling mistakes, xx

[@anjelica9520]

I must say that one is innocent till proven guilty! Although he is addicted to gambling does not automatically makes him a totally rotten person, why shall I believe what she says? I wasn't there no one was, so it's her word against his. Plus she was trying falsely accuse him in child abuse earlier so she'd get the custody , it's already lessen my creability in her. Something about her is not sitting right here... I don't think she's that innocent as she trying to portray herself. Wish we could hear her childrens story.... Anyway, it's still a mystery, wish we knew what happened to him. Maybe, just maybe, she killed him ... Anything possible...

[@ceceliaclarke9147]

At least one documentary includes an interview with Lucan's now adult son. In this brief interview he presents this theory: That his father had planned a theft of his own possessions, from the house where his wife and children were living. Lord Lucan was in serious need of money, according to this son, and so may have hired an accomplice to steal objects from the house, either for an insurance payment or for resale. According to this theory, Lucan provided a heavy pipe, wrapped in layers of tape, for breaking a window on the way out. This was a reference to the pipe found in the trunk of the car which Lucan abandoned. Police investigators labeled this pipe as the weapon which had been used to kill the woman in the cellar. I don't remember the title of this documentary, so I'm not sure of how you can find it. This son theorizes that his father was capable, and probably guilty, of insurance fraud, but never planned or committed a murder. According to this son, his father may have waited in the borrowed car, for the accomplice to return with the stolen items. The large canvas shipping bag found near the murdered woman's body may have been intended as a prop, for making this look like a burglary by an unknown thief. This documentary emphasizes an important detail: The murdered woman could have prepared tea in the kitchen, located on the floor which Americans would call the "first, or ground, floor". She had to pass by this kitchen to reach steps leading down into the basement, to prepare tea on a small stovetop. In terms of convenience, this would not make very much sense. Attention to this detail brings out the possibility that she had a plan for meeting someone there. This person, if he existed, could have killed her , or the accomplice to the burglary could have used the tape-wrapped pipe against her. He would not have been expecting to find anyone in the dark basement, and may have attacked her, in fear of being caught. In this case, Lucan could have been called guilty, for setting and paying for the plan which led to her death. These are just possibilities, but attention to these details does raise additional possibilities for the perpetration of this crime.

[@garryharrington8255]

this show it just great big thanks,, most new shows now are just woke shit crap,, thanks we needs more of this thanks

[@maccoll3644]

I remember this murder very well. Lucan was a vile man and a total waste of space in this world. The untimely death of Sandra, who had her whole life ahead of her, is a terrible tragedy and must have been unbearable for all of her family and friends! It would have been better if Lucan had never been born.

[@jasanders5877]

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[@hart1625]

Lucan (TV Mini Series 2013) - imdb 6.9 A two-part drama about infamous aristocrat John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan, who mysteriously disappeared in 1974 after being accused of murdering his children's nanny. S1.E2 ∙ Episode #1.2 - imdb 7.0 Lord Lucan's wealthy friends are prepared to hide him from the police at first, but he grows ever more of an encumbrance to them.