The BEST Forgotten NUKER In The Battle Cats...

[@LucasIVYT]

A lot of people asked why I didn't talk about Awakened Bahamut. ...yeah I kinda forgot, so let me share my insights here. IMO A.Baha's existence definitely is part of the reason people not use Bahamut much,but I don't think it's one of the biggest, or even THAT big of the reason why. Even if ABaha and Bahamut are separated units, I don't think there's THAT much stages where you'd use both together. There are absolutely some overlaps, yes, but I don't think there's that much. Actually, if anything, the bigger reason isn't Awakened Bahamut, rather, a different awakened unit. Awakened Ururun. Awakened Ururun's damage output becomes much bigger, being even better than a lot of generalist ubers. Yes Bahamut still has the nuker's advantage, but Awakened Ururun's and CBaha's DPS gap is just way too big at this point. And then when reaching mid-UL, Bahamut is introduced to yet another rival, Urs. Now Double Ururun becomes the go-to when you want to use 2 no-uber generalist at once. You can even argue the same with Awakened Mina. But why not use both at once? Well, because Ururun often makes Bahamut miss. You wanna use Bahamut on Rain.D stages? Too bad, Ururun's gonna knock the Rain.D back every couple seconds. If you're gonna use Bahamut you'll have to hold back on not using Ururun, but not using Ururun means missing out on her giant damage output. You're pretty much gonna want to just use one of them, and chances are Awakened Ururun's gonna be the better choice purely from their overwhelming damage output gap. But there are still times where you could use both of them at once, and still feel Bahamut's nuker advantage going into play. But I'm just saying, this is how people's mindset usually are on why they don't bring Bahamut more.

[@mystiikl8442]

yeah

[@abdul-warisalao]

Lucas considerimg how well talk vids are doing may i please request you talk about units like CQH (my goat) with lots of targets but low impact on the battlefield. Although i dont know if that would apply to enough units to talk about

[@Bahamut-in-vietnam]

Me?💀💀

[@SenSpaBR_iXx]

A. Bahamut is the true form of Bahamut not a separate unit

[@Funkyleb]

@@SenSpaBR_iXxhe’s saying if they wete

[@XskullDrSkull]

It’s good to finally have a video addressing how DPS isn’t the only metric for offense. Damage stat itself gets overlooked too often, even I used to not pay much attention to it until I got around to properly using Poseidon and Lasvoss. It’s also good to see how foreswing can be utilized for bigger nuking. It’s very noticeable on Rekon Korps and Anubis where enemies can get baited easily into their range.

[@ripedroxx]

people need to understand that it isn't a simple answer, quick dps have a huge dependance in uptime with the upside of not caring much if they miss an attack and because of both of those things they are extremely effective against weak or swarmy enemies and inflicting status effects but they won't last long in a slugfest against stronger tanky enemies, while nukers get extremely punished by missing an attack which is not an uncommon occurence but at the same time they don't care about uptime as much since most of the time they will be recharging their attack and since their dps comes all at once they can take care of big enemies in just one attack but at the same times weak enemies will swarm them without any oposition both fulfill a niche and are good at their respective fields

[@Idi0tperson1]

@@ripedroxxon cyclones, low dps can be good if it’s a nuker

[@Akif-ln4vp]

That's why I use daliasan over dasli, it has more consistent damage output

[@zaksmith8991]

love using rekon corps i'm in early coc3

[@Absurd-Covenant]

Completely unrelated but I just rolled lasvoss

[@koyorion2123]

Congrats on beating EOC 3

[@andrew4042]

Congratulations!

[@SpaceHitlerFrieza]

Lol

[@rebeccamccandless1972]

He used true Valkyrie cat I think he beat it for a second time

[@deesnuts170]

@@rebeccamccandless1972 holy shit really?!?!?!?!

[@catgamer666]

True Valkyrie is second form​@@rebeccamccandless1972

[@misterhappy444]

This video got so many "Sure grandma, let's get you to bed" vibes to it. I love it.

[@Engm4tic]

You know we being serious when fasthamut is brought out

[@bluebunny074]

My first time joining a Lucas stream, the first thing I saw was Fasthamut

[@sbc9638]

8:35 Imagine fasterhamut

[@Glockenspheal]

You can't fool me Lucas, this is just a video to praise Kuu

[@CannedJuiceYT]

Great analysis on an awesome unit. I'm really glad you covered the part with the DPS chart, because the idea of "initial attack burst" contributing to kill time is something a lot of people tend to forget about. Unfortunately, I'm afraid you didn't mention Bahamut's TRUE biggest weakness: the fact that you can't use him and Awakened Bahamut in the same lineup...

[@justinjakeashton]

I've seen this concept in a bunch of other mobile games before so I knew about it the moment I first used Bahamut. "Initial damage" is the only thing that matters if it's enough to oneshot. Bahamut's real weakness is that horrendous foreswing.

[@Bored_Cloud]

Thumbnail goes so hard

[@bige9856]

gotta be a godzilla reference right? not tripping (shin probably based on the red and black)

[@Fishman1004]

@@bige9856yeah

[@saltedsweets]

TRUEEE

[@kirbmaster9405]

Shin bahamut

[@YourCasualGargantuanLeviathan]

​@@bige9856 probably

[@milsharkie]

the swarm of various doges at 11:02 washing away the two bahamuts like a tidal wave out of nowhere caught me off guard and had me cackling like a madman

[@feliscodylinae]

5:02 no wayyy 🤯 15528 damage per hit? He really earned his title of "the boss killer" with that one!

[@Akif-ln4vp]

Why don't we talked about lasvos damage stack that could reach over a million

[@demonrobot]

Dps≠damage

[@Akif-ln4vp]

@@demonrobot yes like how meta filibusters damage is 3,000,000 and it'll wipes out all our unit in one shot ( except metal cat ) while his dps is less than a 100% aku gori

[@Stupid_alien_cat311]

@@Akif-ln4vpmetal cat:

[@Akif-ln4vp]

@@Stupid_alien_cat311sorry, my bad

[@mogusman3]

Idk why, but thinking about you photoshopping your silly little hat on each stock photo for hours is really funny to me, but its a great touch in the video.

[@LucasIVYT]

LOLL its a funny process yes but picking the stock images are the much more exhausting process xd

[@minichimken]

@@LucasIVYT you should make it a trademark

[@AshuraG5]

​@@LucasIVYT 💀💀💀 exhausting? U doing nothing except using ur fingers

[@John-o2g2x]

​@@AshuraG5Mentaly exhausting

[@tmmaster6904]

​@@AshuraG5 insert joke about me using my fingers on your mother here

[@Aura_BCP]

That bit about Cosmo, i remember how people were speculating on giving filibuster faster attack rate as well, i won't lie i was also in support of this idea but now, faster attack rate would just ruin him completely, the game for now is really fast paced so i get why anyone would want a slugish unit to be faster at attacking but sometimes you gotta remember that differences is what makes a unit special, if every bad sluggish unit got a faster attack cycle a lot of cats could become better but also they would look like clones of themselves, that's one if the reasons why i like Cosmo

[@mikadosannoji553]

its also Filibuster's whole gimmick, getting rid of his long attack animation would just make him like any other nuker. Thats why he needs more range, damage and Survivability instead

[@Joe-zr7yg]

They should just buff his freeze

[@LordMarkiquad]

I still remember when I said regular Bahamut was still a very good nuker unit for the late game and everyone was hella confused when I said that. Like sure he does fall off a bit when the later Legend units are unlocked but it doesn't mean he is garbage and still has a place in the meta, especially for no uber.

[@Viscidsquare040]

9:50 I didn’t think of this before but it actually makes a lot of sense! It’s the difference between y=ceil(x) and y=x. Both have an average slope (dps) of 1 but ceil(x) reaches every y value before or at the same time as x.

[@finally9902]

I remember the old days of Battle Cats (2014 to be more specific) when Ubers weren't flooding the game and this dude CARRIED EVERY LEVEL! I still play today (and enjoy), but things were so different back then

[@Viewer7581-kb4mb]

I like how after all these years, this is still a useful unit (True form that is)

[@teorachev9455]

Is that a shin godzilla reference in the thumbnail or have I taken crazy pills again.

[@LucasIVYT]

it is!

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

Both

[@saltedsweets]

it is, as well of the concept of being forgotten being in line with godzilla's in-universe representation. this thumbnail is clever as fuck

[@SisypheanExplorer]

oh my

[@marioguy1225]

Truly a disappointing collab

[@darryllmaybe3881]

People when Lucas starts strategizing in a strategy game.

[@AshleyTheBaleful]

Excellent video! The best part was Lucas finding a way to talk about Kuu right at the end lmao

[@OwOMoment]

i cant believe to prove a point you actually made a fasthamut unit in bcu also that ogre island strat is genius what, ill prob actually include 2nd form baha in the ogre island strat im making for my classmate doing manics

[@darryllmaybe3881]

28:02 Did you mean Eyewaltz here? Juvens is the angel tank, he doesn't have any damage increasing abilities, Eyewaltz is the mid ranger who Ponos gave wave in their true form.

[@Dylan-lh3xx]

0:24 oh look that’s me at the top calling bahamut hot. banger video, Lucas

[@Z.4.K.U]

Lucas making another banger video!? Thanks once again for letting me work on the thumbnail 🎉

[@Dr_Lovekaffe]

15:20 Touhou Luna Nights OST detected, opinion analyzed and accepted

[@CupapiTG]

Really cool video! It's fun seeing a video that touches on these deeper insights into what makes a damager good. I've noticed these traits of slow vs fast attack rates for a while, but I've never seen anyone go into THIS kind of depth for appreciating BC. It's unfortunate that the meta kinda just revolves around the best of the best (and fastest) though, so bahamut and cooler units like cosmos barely gets used.

[@ZACKDHEART]

the reference to Shin Godzilla in the thumbnail is so cool

[@calebdesjardin5635]

Been absolutely loving these battle cats Unit review/explanation/essay videos.

[@Niltenstein]

I just used shishilan as my bahamut replacement through most of my mid-game experience. Bahamut was my reserve for following guides and sometimes as a good damage dealer until I got the true form, from which point on I rarely used the second form. But I also don‘t use the 3rd form quite enough, and in old decks I often instinctively remove it, even though I don‘t have a replacement rusher really, so I basically forgot bahamut altogether

[@petars4449]

Shishilan supremacy

[@Niltenstein]

@@petars4449 My man!

[@petars4449]

@@Niltenstein fools are yet to realise the power of nekolugas

[@SunshineCo225]

This was great, and the math was very interesting! Even if scary. I will say, something you didn't mention that I think makes bahamut have an advantage is that well... When you send them out of the base, he's not on cooldown. He's ready to pump that damage right into the nearest enemy. And with a faster unit with less damage per attack, that matters less, but instantly deleting some enemies health can be huge. Like you saw with the rain d in the first example. I think that's also a lot of why sending soba out and having her snipe a dangerous metal feels better than waiting for her to get her shit together after attacking, as she's just ready to go and pump that damage in "instantly", besides obviously attack animations. That's also amplified by the presence of other units. you have 9 other units that help. Once your freshly sent out bahamut deletes most of an enemies hp, a strong attacker can way more easily finish off the job in an attack or two, compared to the low dpa fast unit. Both of these things are huge advantages, even if it's not always how you use bahamut because stacking is a thing. But I think that does seriously factor into how he can actually be insanely faster in the right scenario.

[@dddfccvd]

More of these documentary explanation rant videos would be highly appreciated these are great

[@clash_king1025]

Bahamut is a pretty neat unit. All the shit talk he gets definitely focuses a bit too much on his weaknesses while ignoring that his burst damage is really nice Of course awakened bahamut will be preferred in more scenarios but not all units will work in everywhere

[@galaxygenerator4542]

People cheer you on when you stack 5 or 10 bahamuts, but just stack 2 cyberpunks and you see who people really are...

[@Saxikat]

That thumbnail is amazing, and the video in general is surprisingly informational!

[@justinjakeashton]

19:12 This is the real jumpscare. I beat Crazed Cat and Crazed Tank for the very first time with Bahamut stacking. They took over 30 minutes each but I won with a full Level 20 team. I was at SOL8 at the time so I wasn't anywhere close to having Ururun.

[@Bill_the_Dorito]

Crazed titan was my first crazed cat Pathetic

[@alexislopez6027]

I got crazed dragon (while in ITF chpt 1) as my first crazed by using Thunder Jack and somehow got manic Island as my first manic (also beat Angel Clionel and Queen Bee before even beating ITF chpt2 by using thunder jack)

[@aliyamubbashir3168]

​@@alexislopez6027dang thunderjack that good? I still have him level 1

[@alexislopez6027]

@@aliyamubbashir3168 Depends, early game (EOC, chapter 1 & 2 of ITF and early SOL) he's broken, mid game (ITF chapter 3, COC and the rest of SOL) he's really strong and late game (Uncanny Legends and beyond) he's a really solid unit in many scenarios and super strong in the correct ones, but he does have a time and place, you can't use him literally everywhere.

[@liyanaahmadsofri1973]

15:10 one must imagine rebound unit/enemy happy

[@squeakystool8910]

3:29 is so funny to me for some reason it’s like Bahamut cat is on trial

[@Ratatouille-105]

1:02 THATS WHAT IM SAYING BRO THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT SO MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT IS MAN

[@Finimation21]

Make fasthamut canon in the cattle bats lore

[@tattletalestrangler5220]

Bahamut ultra form gonna be the comeback story of the century

[@dodagamer2560]

I agree with Lucas. Nuker units are fun to use (Bora, Diabolosa, Bahamut). It’s nice to see that LD units are in the spotlight. I just wish that other types of units were acknowledged more

[@deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813]

He’s forgotten for a reason. I don’t even line his true form I’m just forced to use it sometimes but I accept that his life expectancy is 12 seconds.

[@Oscar-mj8fq]

Even if you didn’t mean to,I love the reference to bird cats description ‘Has the health of a pea’

[@crushash9322]

Great analysis especially with the skipping kbs point! It reminds me of the Crazed Bahamut strats on Fire Kingdom Dynamite to skip the amount of kbs of midnite d so you dont push into the nyandams. (Btw at 28:03 did you mean to say Eyewaltz instead of Juvenz?)

[@LucasIVYT]

oh my god i still get those two mixed up

[@crushash9322]

@@LucasIVYT tbh I do too all the time LOL

[@BonzaiTheBased]

0:21 OH SHOOT THATS ME

[@GoofyGoober-uf4pg]

☺️👍

[@rngisidk]

​@@GoofyGoober-uf4pg😊😊😊😊😊😊😊👍👍👍👍

[@Pufferteas2]

i remembered unlocking bahamut and always using him in everysingle one of my load outs

[@Luckyless_Naara]

Another good video, i personally love using nuker units, and there was a lot of time which i recommended 2nd form bahamut to late game stages, and they went like "Why 2nd form?", now i have a fast copy + paste link to skip my explanation. This is a banger.

[@Surkk2960]

I think Bahamut's biggest weakness is that it has a true form that changes its role... and technically makes it more versatile than its nuker form. That aside, I just don't use him since I have other nukers that are specialized. Might use C. Bah again at some point though since I'm going into 4 crown SoL. Then again, talented lil' dragon exists now.

[@fulicious2991]

Best Thumbnail I've ever seen from you gyattdamn

[@TalanGraff]

Stages where you have an opportunity to use Crazed Bahaumt just, tend to be incredibly fun. Like, idk it just brings me back to early game sol. Which is incredibly sick, love this unit

[@-.-Infinity-.-]

Bahamut has been pretty clutch for me several times, hes 85k damage is hellr crippling to the early game bosses and helps in peon cleaning too. It's just nice to see hem getting recognition he deserves, he's really you only good damage source till you ururun if you have awful gacha luck. Not to mention Bahamut in all his forms is the ultimate skill based unit, even to get him or to evolve him yol need to prove yourself to the game which is pretty fun.

[@AshuraG5]

The game lore: "He started the apocalypse" Me: sure. sure. Keep playing with the cotton ball kitten.

[@averyraresnom2451]

Basically why kill enemy in 80 hits when you can do it IN ONE.

[@ceddavis7441]

A. Bauhamut overshadows his og form forever. I'm happy to have his help for a few crazed cats, but once you have true, you never really go back.

[@LordSpaceGodzilla]

I remastered your fasthamut design in BCU, thanks for the idea, btw

[@_LunaticMoon]

I swear the amount of times I've been uncertain whether Bahamut cat hit the boss or not is uncountable because of his inaccurate ball explosion hitbox

[@SlimeyZockt]

I really like this. It not only shows how Bahamut can be good when you know how to use him effectively and maybe even better than other units (skill curve, les go) but also units like bahamut

[@thanksfeanor9988]

Great analysis. C Baha was sometimes the key I needed to beat some UL 2* or 3* stages with special/rare only for the kind of reasons you say. It's worth noting that as you level cats to end game damage output, and/or use damage up combos, a high-rate attacker still more or less does 1 KB per attack on stuff then it moves away and those buffs are doing nothing for a while. The time it takes to cut through enemies isn't halved by doubling your DPS due to time spent not attacking. Meanwhile a level 50, attack up CBaha sinks all that increased power into one attack, which, assuming it hits of course, can drastically change flow of battle or kill a key enemy before your next problem joins it. You already made the point that large single hit damage helps for this, but this is a strength that scales better than expected into endgame for this reason. By the point everyone has long since abandoned CBaha, he's actually improving in this way faster than much of the competition.

[@Pudding404]

Fasthamut. That sounds familiar. Haven't beaten itf chapter 3 yet so I don't know. Lucas squeezing Kuu praise in at the end. We see you, Lucas. Anything for his waifu.

[@Stupid_alien_cat311]

0:57 hasn’t edited his packpack to say seconds instead of frames

[@AbyssalLagaiacrusWithAnExtraA]

Resident "Person who stacks like 16 nuking dragon emperors before hitting the base" here. Kickass video.

[@DeadMedia-vf4je]

I love the Shin Godzilla Reference in the Thumbnail

[@megidalyne]

the nice thing about high damage per hit is that you can trigger HP threshold knockback on the whole frontline at once - when you have a big range like bahamut and the enemy is closing in, being able to knock back the whole frontline at the same time is really really good and helps to clear pressure off your meatshields giving bahamut the clutch xfactor that makes him feel so good to use

[@bossbrozork3022]

Funnily enough the conjurer for dragon emperors gundaros is basically a bahamut cat 2.0 for aliens and blacks with ridiculous damage that can mostly oneshot non-tanky enemies while the tanky ones get looped into getting hit again with gundaro's knockback and 8 second slow.

[@XquizetBlix]

15:17 Luna Nights music, instantly mega based

[@saifmohamed2967]

the main reason people are forgetting bahamut is because he's overshadowed by ubers, why would you use bahamut when you have mighty gao, or sirius, or shishi, or any decent generalist, bahamut is not a bad unit, not by any means, but he's an early/mid game unit for a reason

[@Ultraman12312]

LOVE that shin GZ reference on the thumbnail❤

[@Zekrozma3]

Shin Bahamut sounds like a fire level.

[@cindymarie3245]

i feel like the reason people completely forget about nuke bahamut is not because hes bad, but because his true form is just so universally viable

[@PinkishHaze]

As a wow player this just kind of makes sense to me seeing damage numbers all the time. Nukes are basically burst damage in a single shot an initial attack and long time between attacks. The initial nuke say if 3 seconds into the battle has a HUGE initial DPS and then rapidly decreases between attacks. Meanwhile a consistent attack rate builds up to the DPS that the burst nuke damage drops off too in order to balance around the same rate. It's mainly about balancing the frequency and damage you want to put in to not waste potential damage high risk high reward. Which is why you can take such advantage bahamut being so inconsistent to stack him so well cause he'll take too much time doing too much damage to enemies that don't need that much damage done to them.

[@BenjaminBroom-n4r]

Can we just take a second to appreciate the picture or whatever it’s called for this video

[@Alfimation]

That shin Godzilla thumbnail is a masterpiece 😂😂😂

[@pokeminer8400]

"Let's talk about Bahamut's rights!" Saul Goodman theme begins

[@krowpan799]

this was a nice video and no popping noises either thank god, just a chill video about bahamut

[@Kanna_Akizuki]

I'm not forgetting this cat is literally the stormtrooper of nukers

[@cihangirefesaglam1609]

0:48 Bahamut cats cooldown is actually 10 wing swings

[@theodorech20]

Big damage per hit also allows you to break barriers threshold easier (Provided you don't bring any barrier breakers) Crazed Bahamut allows you to break more alien barriers easier with it's relatively safe distance while Ururun and other fast hit rate low damage per hit units cannot.

[@Bingo2012jt]

3:29 IM Saul Goodman did you know that bahamut has rights

[@makerofwarmbread]

Half an hour about a single unit in a game i play once a week. Hell yeah.

[@onyotubero]

Awakened bahamut cat gave me such a rush of adrenaline when i got him and seeing that absolutely MONSTROUS 90k per hit was crazy to my mind, bahamut will always be my favorite

[@celloj3703]

Damn bro really got me with the maths jumpscare... TWICE

[@SeriyKon0]

I myself received Vigler as my first Uber on my account, and, aside from his combo, he’s known for the long atack rate AND low range. And sometimes when he misses I’m like: man, I wish you atack a little faster, and the other times it’s: man, can you hold your atack just for another second, so that enemy get closer! It’s really a double-edged sword.

[@Gortplush]

Man,that thumbnail. Since i am a Kaiju fan,that tricked me lol

[@ogmechsftw]

8:34 what trash cat should have been...

[@System_error4hl]

What absolutely kills me, is that when on the off chance I use Bahamut in his 2nd form, my Gato amigos all of a sudden start doing knock backs. YOU’RE A MEATSHIELD!

[@emerster656]

To be fair he is good early game cause he does a shit ton of damage and can kill everything, where nothing except him can do that sometimes

[@emerster656]

basically what I mean is he can kill enemies like alien bear where my only other cat who an do that is polevau;ter bwith peons and maybe dragon

[@TrollDaniri]

@@emerster656 dragon can do that tho bahamut just does it much better unless u stack dragons that case they would be better also dragon outranges alien bear

[@dunkblunk6045]

A perfect example for me is Ramiel cat. Long range and TBA however the surge ability and slow debuff ability makes up for it

[@Ozzy08018]

I personally always used Bahamut. For the longest time, my best Uber was Gameron. When I needed someone to come in clutch and kill the boss, it was always Bahamut who stepped up and nuked it. For me, Bahamut actually outclassed Ururun because I prefer his higher damage slower attack to hers.

[@thatluckydragon8088]

I love the title art a great homage to shin gojira

[@bonus1057]

Luna Nights music used, even more respect gained.

[@michaelmclean1281]

The cat was doing in this video is actually my favourite

[@Parzibalthefirst]

you just convinced me to use anubis for another role, not just a dust collector

[@NiceWiener]

King of the nukers is a badass line for a decent unit

[@AneitaLT]

I really rely on Bahamut a lot. I didn't get ubers (& if so, not a lot), so I *really* relied on my normal, rare, and special cats. *Bahamut was my pseudo-Uber* to help my team. I didn't engage with the story of legend much, so I didn't get Mina until late. When I found out that Mina ISN'T my non-cyberpunk-cat long ranger, I never used her (I still think her range is to pathetic for her cost). It was super cool getting Awakened Bahamut, but I alternate between "who takes longer to die"; a fast attacker that can die to a R.Ost, or a slow attacker that could drag out a fight.

[@NICOCLASH]

On my first account (before losing the retrieval code so I can't access it), on EoC c2, I pulled Colossal Benkei. You can imagine how much little spotlight Regular Bahamut had over Benkei

[@deadclawh3851]

When I first saw your fasthamut post I didnt expect much But dang this is genius way to explain bahamut's state With all weakness and strengths

[@bakalbumiarkanubawa9042]

My first go to Ubers during early game were Shishilan Pasalan and Rekon Corps. I was already doing everything you said and more. As I move to further into the game I do prefer the meta ubers more, but it's still fun to use my old carries

[@ArchJovnusOñate]

28:51 rare footage of cosmo not being memed on

[@Prawcin]

Bahamut, my favourite LD unit

[@Snowww.-.h1]

awakened bahamut is truly a starman saving bahamuts rep

[@gespenst0083]

The ball should suck enemies in and blow up.

[@peavuh]

im just gonna keep using cat machine because he looks cool