The BEST Forgotten NUKER In The Battle Cats...

Fasthamut also likes pon-de-rings donuts.
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00:00 Bahamut's Wrongs
03:12 Bahamut's Rights
05:25 Problem of long attack periods
06:40 The DPS Dilemma
11:05 "Wasting Time"
15:14 Vs High KB + Aku enemies
18:35 The Stacking Strategy
20:16 Long Distance's Reign
22:53 Why even bother talking
25:52 Divine Kuu Agenda
29:15 So then what..?

[@LucasIVYT]

A lot of people asked why I didn't talk about Awakened Bahamut. ...yeah I kinda forgot, so let me share my insights here. IMO A.Baha's existence definitely is part of the reason people not use Bahamut much,but I don't think it's one of the biggest, or even THAT big of the reason why. Even if ABaha and Bahamut are separated units, I don't think there's THAT much stages where you'd use both together. There are absolutely some overlaps, yes, but I don't think there's that much. Actually, if anything, the bigger reason isn't Awakened Bahamut, rather, a different awakened unit. Awakened Ururun. Awakened Ururun's damage output becomes much bigger, being even better than a lot of generalist ubers. Yes Bahamut still has the nuker's advantage, but Awakened Ururun's and CBaha's DPS gap is just way too big at this point. And then when reaching mid-UL, Bahamut is introduced to yet another rival, Urs. Now Double Ururun becomes the go-to when you want to use 2 no-uber generalist at once. You can even argue the same with Awakened Mina. But why not use both at once? Well, because Ururun often makes Bahamut miss. You wanna use Bahamut on Rain.D stages? Too bad, Ururun's gonna knock the Rain.D back every couple seconds. If you're gonna use Bahamut you'll have to hold back on not using Ururun, but not using Ururun means missing out on her giant damage output. You're pretty much gonna want to just use one of them, and chances are Awakened Ururun's gonna be the better choice purely from their overwhelming damage output gap. But there are still times where you could use both of them at once, and still feel Bahamut's nuker advantage going into play. But I'm just saying, this is how people's mindset usually are on why they don't bring Bahamut more.

[@mystiikl8442]

yeah

[@abdul-warisalao]

Lucas considerimg how well talk vids are doing may i please request you talk about units like CQH (my goat) with lots of targets but low impact on the battlefield. Although i dont know if that would apply to enough units to talk about

[@Bahamut-in-vietnam]

Me?💀💀

[@SenSpaBR_iXx]

A. Bahamut is the true form of Bahamut not a separate unit

[@Funkyleb]

@@SenSpaBR_iXxhe’s saying if they wete

[@koyorion2123]

Congrats on beating EOC 3

[@andrew4042]

Congratulations!

[@HalfSkullStars]

Lol

[@rebeccamccandless1972]

He used true Valkyrie cat I think he beat it for a second time

[@deesnuts170]

@@rebeccamccandless1972 holy shit really?!?!?!?!

[@catgamer666]

True Valkyrie is second form​@@rebeccamccandless1972

[@XskullDrSkull]

It’s good to finally have a video addressing how DPS isn’t the only metric for offense. Damage stat itself gets overlooked too often, even I used to not pay much attention to it until I got around to properly using Poseidon and Lasvoss. It’s also good to see how foreswing can be utilized for bigger nuking. It’s very noticeable on Rekon Korps and Anubis where enemies can get baited easily into their range.

[@ripedroxx]

people need to understand that it isn't a simple answer, quick dps have a huge dependance in uptime with the upside of not caring much if they miss an attack and because of both of those things they are extremely effective against weak or swarmy enemies and inflicting status effects but they won't last long in a slugfest against stronger tanky enemies, while nukers get extremely punished by missing an attack which is not an uncommon occurence but at the same time they don't care about uptime as much since most of the time they will be recharging their attack and since their dps comes all at once they can take care of big enemies in just one attack but at the same times weak enemies will swarm them without any oposition both fulfill a niche and are good at their respective fields

[@Commando_cat1]

@@ripedroxxon cyclones, low dps can be good if it’s a nuker

[@Akif-ln4vp]

That's why I use daliasan over dasli, it has more consistent damage output

[@zaksmith8991]

love using rekon corps i'm in early coc3

[@Absurd-Covenant]

Completely unrelated but I just rolled lasvoss

[@Bored_Cloud]

Thumbnail goes so hard

[@bige9856]

gotta be a godzilla reference right? not tripping (shin probably based on the red and black)

[@Fishman1004]

@@bige9856yeah

[@saltedsweets]

TRUEEE

[@kirbmaster9405]

Shin bahamut

[@godzillahimself2023]

​@@bige9856 probably

[@misterhappy444]

This video got so many "Sure grandma, let's get you to bed" vibes to it. I love it.

[@Engm4tic]

You know we being serious when fasthamut is brought out

[@bluebunny074]

My first time joining a Lucas stream, the first thing I saw was Fasthamut

[@sbc9638]

8:35 Imagine fasterhamut

[@Glockenspheal]

You can't fool me Lucas, this is just a video to praise Kuu

[@feliscodylinae]

5:02 no wayyy 🤯 15528 damage per hit? He really earned his title of "the boss killer" with that one!

[@Akif-ln4vp]

Why don't we talked about lasvos damage stack that could reach over a million

[@demonrobot]

Dps≠damage

[@Akif-ln4vp]

@@demonrobot yes like how meta filibusters damage is 3,000,000 and it'll wipes out all our unit in one shot ( except metal cat ) while his dps is less than a 100% aku gori

[@Stupid_alien_cat311]

@@Akif-ln4vpmetal cat:

[@Akif-ln4vp]

@@Stupid_alien_cat311sorry, my bad

[@CannedJuiceYT]

Great analysis on an awesome unit. I'm really glad you covered the part with the DPS chart, because the idea of "initial attack burst" contributing to kill time is something a lot of people tend to forget about. Unfortunately, I'm afraid you didn't mention Bahamut's TRUE biggest weakness: the fact that you can't use him and Awakened Bahamut in the same lineup...

[@justinjakeashton]

I've seen this concept in a bunch of other mobile games before so I knew about it the moment I first used Bahamut. "Initial damage" is the only thing that matters if it's enough to oneshot. Bahamut's real weakness is that horrendous foreswing.

[@LordMarkiquad]

I still remember when I said regular Bahamut was still a very good nuker unit for the late game and everyone was hella confused when I said that. Like sure he does fall off a bit when the later Legend units are unlocked but it doesn't mean he is garbage and still has a place in the meta, especially for no uber.

[@Aura_BCP]

That bit about Cosmo, i remember how people were speculating on giving filibuster faster attack rate as well, i won't lie i was also in support of this idea but now, faster attack rate would just ruin him completely, the game for now is really fast paced so i get why anyone would want a slugish unit to be faster at attacking but sometimes you gotta remember that differences is what makes a unit special, if every bad sluggish unit got a faster attack cycle a lot of cats could become better but also they would look like clones of themselves, that's one if the reasons why i like Cosmo

[@mikadosannoji553]

its also Filibuster's whole gimmick, getting rid of his long attack animation would just make him like any other nuker. Thats why he needs more range, damage and Survivability instead

[@celestialwaffle1491]

Idk why, but thinking about you photoshopping your silly little hat on each stock photo for hours is really funny to me, but its a great touch in the video.

[@LucasIVYT]

LOLL its a funny process yes but picking the stock images are the much more exhausting process xd

[@minichimken]

@@LucasIVYT you should make it a trademark

[@teorachev9455]

Is that a shin godzilla reference in the thumbnail or have I taken crazy pills again.

[@LucasIVYT]

it is!

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

Both

[@saltedsweets]

it is, as well of the concept of being forgotten being in line with godzilla's in-universe representation. this thumbnail is clever as fuck

[@SisypheanExplorer]

oh my

[@Viscidsquare040]

9:50 I didn’t think of this before but it actually makes a lot of sense! It’s the difference between y=ceil(x) and y=x. Both have an average slope (dps) of 1 but ceil(x) reaches every y value before or at the same time as x.

[@Pudding404]

Fasthamut. That sounds familiar. Haven't beaten itf chapter 3 yet so I don't know. Lucas squeezing Kuu praise in at the end. We see you, Lucas. Anything for his waifu.

[@darryllmaybe3881]

People when Lucas starts strategizing in a strategy game.

[@ZACKDHEART]

the reference to Shin Godzilla in the thumbnail is so cool

[@AshleyTheBaleful]

Excellent video! The best part was Lucas finding a way to talk about Kuu right at the end lmao

[@CupapiTG]

Really cool video! It's fun seeing a video that touches on these deeper insights into what makes a damager good. I've noticed these traits of slow vs fast attack rates for a while, but I've never seen anyone go into THIS kind of depth for appreciating BC. It's unfortunate that the meta kinda just revolves around the best of the best (and fastest) though, so bahamut and cooler units like cosmos barely gets used.

[@OwOMoment]

i cant believe to prove a point you actually made a fasthamut unit in bcu also that ogre island strat is genius what, ill prob actually include 2nd form baha in the ogre island strat im making for my classmate doing manics

[@darryllmaybe3881]

28:02 Did you mean Eyewaltz here? Juvens is the angel tank, he doesn't have any damage increasing abilities, Eyewaltz is the mid ranger who Ponos gave wave in their true form.

[@dddfccvd]

More of these documentary explanation rant videos would be highly appreciated these are great

[@clash_king1025]

Bahamut is a pretty neat unit. All the shit talk he gets definitely focuses a bit too much on his weaknesses while ignoring that his burst damage is really nice Of course awakened bahamut will be preferred in more scenarios but not all units will work in everywhere

[@Finimation21]

Make fasthamut canon in the cattle bats lore

[@Z.4.K.U]

Lucas making another banger video!? Thanks once again for letting me work on the thumbnail 🎉

[@calebdesjardin5635]

Been absolutely loving these battle cats Unit review/explanation/essay videos.

[@Oscar-mj8fq]

Even if you didn’t mean to,I love the reference to bird cats description ‘Has the health of a pea’

[@Niltenstein]

I just used shishilan as my bahamut replacement through most of my mid-game experience. Bahamut was my reserve for following guides and sometimes as a good damage dealer until I got the true form, from which point on I rarely used the second form. But I also don‘t use the 3rd form quite enough, and in old decks I often instinctively remove it, even though I don‘t have a replacement rusher really, so I basically forgot bahamut altogether

[@petars4449]

Shishilan supremacy

[@SunshineCo225]

This was great, and the math was very interesting! Even if scary. I will say, something you didn't mention that I think makes bahamut have an advantage is that well... When you send them out of the base, he's not on cooldown. He's ready to pump that damage right into the nearest enemy. And with a faster unit with less damage per attack, that matters less, but instantly deleting some enemies health can be huge. Like you saw with the rain d in the first example. I think that's also a lot of why sending soba out and having her snipe a dangerous metal feels better than waiting for her to get her shit together after attacking, as she's just ready to go and pump that damage in "instantly", besides obviously attack animations. That's also amplified by the presence of other units. you have 9 other units that help. Once your freshly sent out bahamut deletes most of an enemies hp, a strong attacker can way more easily finish off the job in an attack or two, compared to the low dpa fast unit. Both of these things are huge advantages, even if it's not always how you use bahamut because stacking is a thing. But I think that does seriously factor into how he can actually be insanely faster in the right scenario.

[@Saxikat]

That thumbnail is amazing, and the video in general is surprisingly informational!

[@Luckyless_Naara]

Another good video, i personally love using nuker units, and there was a lot of time which i recommended 2nd form bahamut to late game stages, and they went like "Why 2nd form?", now i have a fast copy + paste link to skip my explanation. This is a banger.

[@milsharkie]

the swarm of various doges at 11:02 washing away the two bahamuts like a tidal wave out of nowhere caught me off guard and had me cackling like a madman

[@Dylan-lh3xx]

0:24 oh look that’s me at the top calling bahamut hot. banger video, Lucas

[@krowpan799]

this was a nice video and no popping noises either thank god, just a chill video about bahamut

[@justinjakeashton]

19:12 This is the real jumpscare. I beat Crazed Cat and Crazed Tank for the very first time with Bahamut stacking. They took over 30 minutes each but I won with a full Level 20 team. I was at SOL8 at the time so I wasn't anywhere close to having Ururun.

[@Bill_the_Dorito]

Crazed titan was my first crazed cat Pathetic

[@alexislopez6027]

I got crazed dragon (while in ITF chpt 1) as my first crazed by using Thunder Jack and somehow got manic Island as my first manic (also beat Angel Clionel and Queen Bee before even beating ITF chpt2 by using thunder jack)

[@thanksfeanor9988]

Great analysis. C Baha was sometimes the key I needed to beat some UL 2* or 3* stages with special/rare only for the kind of reasons you say. It's worth noting that as you level cats to end game damage output, and/or use damage up combos, a high-rate attacker still more or less does 1 KB per attack on stuff then it moves away and those buffs are doing nothing for a while. The time it takes to cut through enemies isn't halved by doubling your DPS due to time spent not attacking. Meanwhile a level 50, attack up CBaha sinks all that increased power into one attack, which, assuming it hits of course, can drastically change flow of battle or kill a key enemy before your next problem joins it. You already made the point that large single hit damage helps for this, but this is a strength that scales better than expected into endgame for this reason. By the point everyone has long since abandoned CBaha, he's actually improving in this way faster than much of the competition.

[@fulicious2991]

Best Thumbnail I've ever seen from you gyattdamn

[@megidalyne]

the nice thing about high damage per hit is that you can trigger HP threshold knockback on the whole frontline at once - when you have a big range like bahamut and the enemy is closing in, being able to knock back the whole frontline at the same time is really really good and helps to clear pressure off your meatshields giving bahamut the clutch xfactor that makes him feel so good to use

[@Ebrahimgains]

To be fair he is good early game cause he does a shit ton of damage and can kill everything, where nothing except him can do that sometimes

[@Ebrahimgains]

basically what I mean is he can kill enemies like alien bear where my only other cat who an do that is polevau;ter bwith peons and maybe dragon

[@TrollDaniri]

@@Ebrahimgains dragon can do that tho bahamut just does it much better unless u stack dragons that case they would be better also dragon outranges alien bear

[@TalanGraff]

Stages where you have an opportunity to use Crazed Bahaumt just, tend to be incredibly fun. Like, idk it just brings me back to early game sol. Which is incredibly sick, love this unit

[@SlimeyZockt]

I really like this. It not only shows how Bahamut can be good when you know how to use him effectively and maybe even better than other units (skill curve, les go) but also units like bahamut

[@dodagamer2560]

I agree with Lucas. Nuker units are fun to use (Bora, Diabolosa, Bahamut). It’s nice to see that LD units are in the spotlight. I just wish that other types of units were acknowledged more

[@peavuh]

im just gonna keep using cat machine because he looks cool

[@tattletalestrangler5220]

Bahamut ultra form gonna be the comeback story of the century

[@deadclawh3851]

When I first saw your fasthamut post I didnt expect much But dang this is genius way to explain bahamut's state With all weakness and strengths

[@roxie_roller222]

insane art on the thumbnail.

[@galaxygenerator4542]

People cheer you on when you stack 5 or 10 bahamuts, but just stack 2 cyberpunks and you see who people really are...

[@bakalbumiarkanubawa9042]

My first go to Ubers during early game were Shishilan Pasalan and Rekon Corps. I was already doing everything you said and more. As I move to further into the game I do prefer the meta ubers more, but it's still fun to use my old carries

[@AbyssalLagaiacrusWithAnExtraA]

Resident "Person who stacks like 16 nuking dragon emperors before hitting the base" here. Kickass video.

[@finally9902]

I remember the old days of Battle Cats (2014 to be more specific) when Ubers weren't flooding the game and this dude CARRIED EVERY LEVEL! I still play today (and enjoy), but things were so different back then

[@Viewer7581-kb4mb]

I like how after all these years, this is still a useful unit (True form that is)

[@Prawcin]

Bahamut, my favourite LD unit

[@-.-Infinity-.-]

Bahamut has been pretty clutch for me several times, hes 85k damage is hellr crippling to the early game bosses and helps in peon cleaning too. It's just nice to see hem getting recognition he deserves, he's really you only good damage source till you ururun if you have awful gacha luck. Not to mention Bahamut in all his forms is the ultimate skill based unit, even to get him or to evolve him yol need to prove yourself to the game which is pretty fun.

[@pokeminer8400]

"Let's talk about Bahamut's rights!" Saul Goodman theme begins

[@markguyton2868]

I think Bahamut's biggest weakness is that it has a true form that changes its role... and technically makes it more versatile than its nuker form. That aside, I just don't use him since I have other nukers that are specialized. Might use C. Bah again at some point though since I'm going into 4 crown SoL. Then again, talented lil' dragon exists now.

[@888ansel]

LOVE that shin GZ reference on the thumbnail❤

[@moneycatwhoisstupid]

I love seeing how battle cats is still alive

[@InsiderWa11-l]

When you sync bahamut and ururun attacks: 😎🗿

[@Alfimation]

That shin Godzilla thumbnail is a masterpiece 😂😂😂

[@theodorech20]

Big damage per hit also allows you to break barriers threshold easier (Provided you don't bring any barrier breakers) Crazed Bahamut allows you to break more alien barriers easier with it's relatively safe distance while Ururun and other fast hit rate low damage per hit units cannot.

[@crushash9322]

Great analysis especially with the skipping kbs point! It reminds me of the Crazed Bahamut strats on Fire Kingdom Dynamite to skip the amount of kbs of midnite d so you dont push into the nyandams. (Btw at 28:03 did you mean to say Eyewaltz instead of Juvenz?)

[@LucasIVYT]

oh my god i still get those two mixed up

[@crushash9322]

@@LucasIVYT tbh I do too all the time LOL

[@Vibrant_channel]

pls make a video amount the GOAT ramen cat or cyborg vs manic flying, keep on making banger vids :)

[@_LunaticMoon]

I swear the amount of times I've been uncertain whether Bahamut cat hit the boss or not is uncountable because of his inaccurate ball explosion hitbox

[@codenamec.a.t2480]

Honestly I think Bahamut really suffers from how good ABaha is in terms of usability. Like, yeah, you technically could use him against Rain D., but why would you when Awakened Bahamut does that better with more reliable DPH? It’s like first form Phono, he’s certainly good but the opportunity cost of giving up the much better form is simply way too much. Great vid tho, nukers are really cool, shoutouts to Gaia for that risk reward

[@Parzibalthefirst]

you just convinced me to use anubis for another role, not just a dust collector

[@Timtams72]

Honestly half the problem with Bahamut is just... his true form existing LOL which usually does what you want out of him but 5x better more often than not I am sure he'd be used alot more if A. Bahamut was not the way he is (Which is being pretty busted honestly)

[@user-lw9jm7tw9e]

I myself received Vigler as my first Uber on my account, and, aside from his combo, he’s known for the long atack rate AND low range. And sometimes when he misses I’m like: man, I wish you atack a little faster, and the other times it’s: man, can you hold your atack just for another second, so that enemy get closer! It’s really a double-edged sword.

[@wowthewaifu]

I'm not forgetting this cat is literally the stormtrooper of nukers

[@Nar31]

I'm kinda tempted to try Crazed Baha on Socrates now; he does have the 450 range like Hanzo, who's basically only known for deleting Socrates

[@QWERTY708100]

thumbnail goes HARD

[@thatluckydragon8088]

I love the title art a great homage to shin gojira

[@destroreact5706]

15:16 this brollow vs supercat should be loading screen of streams

[@FungallyInfectious]

I just made it to the mount aku invasion stage today without having any shield piercers but I've been struggling with the fallen bears stacking before I can kill them so this video just gave me a bad idea

[@Mrcheese5460]

I’m sorry for not understanding but what’s the difference between the dps stat and then the DMG/hit stat?

[@MT_Enjoyer]

My first uber that i got was Vars, and the funny thing about it is that it happened the complete opposite for me, instead of replacing Bahamut i replaced Ururun with Vars or later with Jizo's Moving Castle, mainly bc of their big damage per hit. The dps were extremely similar but they had much more damage per hit while not screwing up bahamut's attack, and SoL early was stacked with black enemies so win-win. This video encouraged me to use more ubers that i didn't use or maybe even use Crazed Bahamut again, albeit the main content tha i have now is starred UL, wished i had done it in normal UL and not curbstomped everything with dasli, stupid unit. Also is that description a FWMC reference?

[@petars4449]

Very very very good video👍. This can explain how dps actually works in battle cats without kasli fans brains getting melted (or any powercreeping dps waifu in general)

[@NICOCLASH]

On my first account (before losing the retrieval code so I can't access it), on EoC c2, I pulled Colossal Benkei. You can imagine how much little spotlight Regular Bahamut had over Benkei

[@DeadMedia-vf4je]

I love the Shin Godzilla Reference in the Thumbnail

[@hololiveenjoyer5655]

Old days when players are limited to strategies due to the small amount of cat units. Heck, Nuke Bahamut was the go-to of the old meta. His awakened form on the other hand, will always be meta. Also, I remember everyplay with your vid as the guide for EOC 3 Moon, fell for that one back then 😅

[@bookdory3371]

can you do the should you roll series again?

[@byeguyssry]

Finally, the Kuu video has dropped

[@PinkishHaze]

As a wow player this just kind of makes sense to me seeing damage numbers all the time. Nukes are basically burst damage in a single shot an initial attack and long time between attacks. The initial nuke say if 3 seconds into the battle has a HUGE initial DPS and then rapidly decreases between attacks. Meanwhile a consistent attack rate builds up to the DPS that the burst nuke damage drops off too in order to balance around the same rate. It's mainly about balancing the frequency and damage you want to put in to not waste potential damage high risk high reward. Which is why you can take such advantage bahamut being so inconsistent to stack him so well cause he'll take too much time doing too much damage to enemies that don't need that much damage done to them.

[@huston9876543]

My first uber was rekon corps, which is bahamut but epic and he was a staple on every team i made until finishing SOL 1 star. I miss my boy

[@A_Commenter_]

If only this bahamut cat guy can get a true form that would be sick ( also the thumbnail hits hard af )

[@mikib6262]

another banger thank you lucas

[@aneitalt]

I really rely on Bahamut a lot. I didn't get ubers (& if so, not a lot), so I *really* relied on my normal, rare, and special cats. *Bahamut was my pseudo-Uber* to help my team. I didn't engage with the story of legend much, so I didn't get Mina until late. When I found out that Mina ISN'T my non-cyberpunk-cat long ranger, I never used her (I still think her range is to pathetic for her cost). It was super cool getting Awakened Bahamut, but I alternate between "who takes longer to die"; a fast attacker that can die to a R.Ost, or a slow attacker that could drag out a fight.

[@Kyra-Nostal]

That thumbnail is so beautiful!🤯

[@Shrimpfrie]

video being about bahamut doesn't stop him from hating on Dasli, W vid.

[@EnoshimaGuertena]

Shoutout to the Necrodancer ost, good pick

[@onyotubero]

Awakened bahamut cat gave me such a rush of adrenaline when i got him and seeing that absolutely MONSTROUS 90k per hit was crazy to my mind, bahamut will always be my favorite

[@yaboyzonebros]

In most games it's called attack speed so that's what I'm going to call it

[@ogmechsftw]

8:34 what trash cat should have been...

[@BrimBlam]

Holy FUCK that thumbnail is so clean

[@Enter_a_name69]

The funny red hat man rants about a dragon which doesn’t attack fast move fast and spit acid

[@Ozzy08018]

I personally always used Bahamut. For the longest time, my best Uber was Gameron. When I needed someone to come in clutch and kill the boss, it was always Bahamut who stepped up and nuked it. For me, Bahamut actually outclassed Ururun because I prefer his higher damage slower attack to hers.

[@Zekrozma3]

Shin Bahamut sounds like a fire level.

[@kanntoni6546]

19:17 the og cyberstack

[@bunchkinboi7781]

Zaku cooked with that thumbnail

[@baconwings8816]

Man crazed bahamut cat saved my ass when i fougth li'l mohawk cat, he nuked and BOOM He killed li'l mohawk, professor a, teacher bear and anything else there

[@ayodan9]

First glance thought the thumbnail was totally Ganglion. Finally my boy is getting recognized… Yeah he aint really a nuker tho

[@_Smiler]

I had to rewatch the damn chart multiple times to understand what was being said💪