Lucifer 3x5 Reaction | Welcome Back...| Pudding Will Never Be the Same Again

[@Lyrazel]

The Charlotte Richards actual storyline is very well written and performed. Tricia is a fantastic actor able to very subtly play these quite different characters.

[@j9lorna]

Plus, she was EDI in Mass Effect, the AI of the Normandy and she knocked it out of the park!

[@Ryplinn]

"Do we need her back?" I'm sorry, are you suggesting that we don't want Tricia Helfer on our screens? Madness!

[@JohnDoe-xz1mw]

no she is actualy right, we dont need her back, we just WANT her back badly.

[@badsidionjones2679]

Yes, we need her back. She serves a higher purpose.

[@geonunes10]

I actually like the REAL Charlotte's storyline.

[@tkfaf15]

I enjoyed both of Trisha's roles in this series but the real Charlotte storyline was so well written and amazing.

[@IceMetalPunk]

Tricia Helfer gave such a fantastic performance in this episode. I felt so bad for her; especially in the scene after she kisses Lucifer, and she's just completely confused, lost, and basically panicking because she has no idea what's going on. It's so painful to me, not in the "so bad it's painful" sense, but in the "so heartbreaking it's painful" sense.

[@Diane-beau12]

Did y’all know that Tricia Helfer was a supermodel when she was in her twenties. You can see some of her videos on Utube as a supermodel. She is still exquisite

[@Bills_Place]

One thing Lucifer does fairly decently is answering nearly all questions - though sometimes it takes some time.

[@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer]

Charlotte Richards comeback is probably my favorite storyline in the entire series.

[@chadfalardeau5396]

Interesting fact; the Brits use pudding to refer to any dessert

[@randallwilliamson3838]

Netflix takes over the show for season four. Things really kick into high gear once Netflix gets it.

[@bararobberbaron859]

She's an interesting character with a great arc and a good impact on other characters, plus Tricia is absurdly beautiful, so we may not NEED her back, but yeah we want her back ;)

[@katherinelinkous6249]

Patience, things will be made clearer with time.😊

[@beldin2987]

Yes we need her back since she is great. Btw.: i think i somewhere read that Tricia Helfer was even planned to play Chloe but she had no time at that point and Tom Ellis was also a big fan of her.

[@xtifr]

Did we need her back? Well, Tricia Helfer is a very popular actor; she comes with her own built-in fan base. She's also good, and the rest of the cast and crew liked her. So, basically, big win all around, as long as the writers can come up with a good story for her character. Which, no spoilers, but they really, really did! Like, her arc is, IMO, the best part of the uneven season 3!

[@Zerashadow]

Aww poor Tom, Tricia was his celeb crush for a long time, and in this episode he had to act to hate it xD

[@James-sc6vx]

Just remember 1 thing: THERE'S 21 EPISODES LEFT IN THE SEASON. This is only episode 5. Have patience because good things come to those who wait Ms AA.

[@butterw55]

Tricia's acting in this episode is exquisite.

[@tkfaf15]

yeah this season is uneven but there are some really great episodes sprinkles through this season. While you can't see where this is going right now, the storylines this season are worth the journey.

[@oliverwtell]

This episode was dedicated to pudding ! The next episode will focus on two characters, one happy, one sweet. Season 3 is indeed starting a little bit slow, but if it starts going, it will be a hell of a rollercoaster of emotions. Another advantage of season 3 is that the audience is getting more background info on Lucifer, celestial beings, heaven and hell, that sort of things. Do you remember 2x14, Lucifer developping a weird plan to save Chloe's life after she was poisoned ? Season 3 has a much more weird plan. It's really worth watching it.

[@davidedwards1705]

Hell is about Punishing the Guilty. How you feel about your guilt when you die has something to do with it.

[@J-i1x]

YESSSSS, we need her back!

[@dboss7239]

The outside forces mucking up the works is none other than Fox. Just look at the example of Firefly. Actually later when Netflix takes over, Tom cracks a joke deriding Fox programming execs.... But also these writers were weaving a lot of inter related story threads, some only to bear fruit many seasons forward, and they got a bit too carried away with distracting and sleight of hand to try to reveal the clues without audience immediately realizing it. This is an important part of Lucifer's journey of growth - someone he feels something for, and he gives her guidance on how to avoid going back to hell. Old Lucifer couldn't care less about that.... And Tricia Helfer is such a great actress and yes she plays a VERY pivotal role this season. You are going to love the back/side story next episode.

[@sterlingphoenix]

Look, when you get Tricia Helfer on your show YOU KEEP HER for as long as you can.

[@equitek]

You in danger girl, the heat is coming to you!

[@theelvenwtich]

I moved to the PNW from SoCal and I have not been hot in a year. I love this weather.

[@tvix6737]

I tend to view season 3 as a chess match: putting pieces in play with a seemingly arbitrary randomness with the endgame goal of each of those pieces bringing something important. Is it convoluted? Yep. But, is there "method to the madness"? Also, yep. In regard to Charlotte, consider: "If you are going to Hell, and nothing you do will change that, what kind of person will the Devil meet when you get there?" We may not be able to change the outcome, but we can change who we are when we deal with it. As a fellow PNW resident and former Texan, of the two, I'll take summers in Texas, better thunderstorms. I don't always drink but, when I do, it's either Tequila Sunrise (TeqSun) or straight Tequila with 5 slices of jalapenos in the glass.

[@kmuk6276]

Can you imagine missing months of your life and everyone keep insisting you were awake 😮😮😮 nightmare!!! Poor Charlotte ❤ by the way i am drinking peach ice tea because here in germany we outrun even spain in the heatcompetition 🥵🥵🥵🥵

[@kullikullan]

Charlotte is my favourite character. I love her.

[@pcoleman1971]

I'm with you regarding the heat Anna. I moved from Toronto to Vancouver to get away from the summer heat. It's still worse there than it is here, but ugghh. Global warming sucks!

[@ThePharaz]

Strawberry Dr. Pepper.

[@OpalKaboi]

I need some Dr. Pepper. 😢

[@ThePharaz]

@@OpalKaboi My current lineup is Mountain Dew, Cherry Coke, Strawberry Dr. Pepper, and Cherry Dr. Pepper. One case of each.

[@dietlindems6510]

Good episode. And yes, bringing Charlotte back may turn out to have been a good idea on many levels. But I am really looking forward to the next episode with you, it is one of my (many) favourites.

[@donnilloyd1355]

I love this episode. J-E-L-L,,, Oops. Sorry. But you did it. LOL. Nice Post.

[@jacquelinedimattia774]

Season 3 has its ups & downs but Charlotte's storyline is really nice.

[@Drudenfusz]

I have to say, overall this season was not my favourite, but Charlotte was the saving grace.

[@beadsland]

"For my kids, the rule was 'You're not allowed to swear until you register to vote." Another good reason to lower the voting age, right there.

[@chuckmanion1128]

I agree that the Sinner Man is a weak villain. He doesn't pose a looming threat, other than what Lucifer perceives as slights. And the audience already knows that what Lucifer perceives as wrongs against him, aren't always so, but rather him superimposing his issues onto situations leading to misinterpretations. Knowing that, its hard to take the Sinner Man seriously as an over arching villain, and is more just of a confusing sideshow. They didn't set him up well. If they laced more hints of the Sinner Man's meddling into the episodes, he might have worked as a scary unseen boogeyman . Its hard to say more about him without spoilers. Having seen it, I understand where they're trying to go. But there was way too much set up required to get there. Combine that with having to try to properly address the individual arcs of different characters.... And it all stretches on way too long. That's why I'm not a fan of season 3. I think the best part of the season is the finale and the 2 bonus episodes afterwards.

[@christinehurley2487]

As many times as you've asked questions about what was being done to Charlotte's life while "Mom" was in the drivers seat, I'd say, yes, we do need her back, now we'll finally get the answers to those questions Charlotte will be able to talk about the lost time, and how she feels about the "choices" she made while she wasn't herself and the consequences they had For example, while I don't think they meant to hit such an uncomfortable topic, the sex with Dan? It's a weird gray area of this body gave you consent, but it's my body and i didn't consent, very icky feelings there, or her children that "Charlotte" didn't bother to interact with, who she may not have custody of or visitation rights to, all because someone else stole her body I know she'd have just died and stayed dead in other circumstances, but it's not much of a second chance if someone starts ruining your life in completely different ways before you even have a chance to fix things Her whole situation seems very unfair, and i think yeah, we need the closure of seeing things work out for her after all

[@reallollabunny]

I think that Charlotte said she didn't remember anything but not everyone believed her. Dan probably didn't believe her and, since she ignored him completely, decided that she was just ghosting him. I do appreciate her role in the whole series, though - she becomes the cause of many a good scene. also, this is possibly my favourite season story-wise, so I am excited for you to dive deeper into it

[@janices5389]

Actually - in this episode in fact - she states that she's been faking being able to remember when in fact she can't remember anything, except feeling like she was trapped in Hell. And that she was afraid people would think she was going crazy for not remembering. IIRC it's been about 6 months.

[@reallollabunny]

@@janices5389 ok, fair :)

[@ChibiHoshiDragon]

@@janices5389 Charlotte did say outright: Who are you? when first faced with Dan. Lucifer then reinforced that fact. *After* that point she started to fake having memories - after she was out of the hospital and back at work

[@MerriMerrique]

Fun Facts: Season 3 was Fox's last season so I think they were trying to close some stories but it gets better soon. Also iirc Maze, sorry i can't remember the actress' name atm, was pregnant irl. Also by the end of this season and into 4 both Chloe and Linda were pregnant and you start to see the hide the belly tricks. My timeline is probably off on that though.

[@oursharon1001]

Chloe (Lauren German) does not have any children irl.

[@rowenatulley852]

@@oursharon1001 People never double-check their sources before they make a pronouncement . . .

[@Aegi97]

Just fyi - don’t think there were any strikes going on - this is the longest season to date. FYI, Fox canceled it in May of 2018, long after they filmed everything in S3. I think it was a mistake for the season to be this long though, too many storylines at once…

[@spriken]

00:30 Yes, the NW tends to be cooler but right now the best place to be is the Humboldt Coast. A hot day for us is like 70, I think the last day we hit 80 was in 2020.

[@rowenatulley852]

There's a lot of discussion on the season 3 storyline, especially involving Charlotte Richards. I'm on the "I love her!" side, but agree with many folks the season was too long (although I loved it). Compare this with the first season of Fallout, which was only 8 episodes of varying lengths, but they nailed everything: character development, overall plot, plot twists, and a final episode that answered lots of questions, but left some unanswered for season 2. On a different subject, I pointed out in another reactor's channel that by the time she finishes the Lucifer series, I will have turned 70 LOL!

[@Dularr]

Broadcast TV vs. Streaming service.

[@rowenatulley852]

@@Dularr You got it. Another thing about streaming is that episodes can be different lengths. Just look at Fallout . . .

[@jebus7679]

Bringing Charlotte Richards back let's us get into the dynamics of Hell and the people that go there that was touched on back in the middle of season 2. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if The Sinnerman story dragged the show down into cancellation. It is not good. It's best to just enjoy the B plots and side character development this season and ride out the rest. The last bit of the season is actually good and will make you feel better about having sat through the rest of it.

[@iDuckman]

I need a Cosmo! but don't have the makings. Stirrings Cosmo mix is really good. J E L L O Dammit! STOP THAT! aarrgghh!! In terms of Charlotte's memory, how does she remember Hell? That means she remembers everything that happened when she was Mum. But wasn't the original Charlotte KILLED allowing Mum to possess her body? Must switch off brain.

[@Sillydogification]

We need Charlotte back because Tricia Helfer is awesome. Also Jewish and biblical tradition is that everyone accused deserves a defense - so the sins of the guilty do not 'wash off' on the defense....

[@zemoxian]

That may be true but Charlotte’s tendency to use underhanded tactics is the source of her guilt, I think. She’s not just in it to defend her clients. It’s more of a win at all costs motivation that’s an issue for her to confront. If she’s willing to break the rules or even the law to get her clients off then that’s guilt for her own actions that she has to deal with as well as any repercussions from those decisions.

[@Sillydogification]

@@zemoxian A zealous vigorous defense is a good thing. Let let Charlotte's regrets story line play out...

[@zemoxian]

@@Sillydogification potential spoilers I agree in principle and I think the show missteps in this aspect. It should have been clearer that it’s not just her choice to defend them. It should have been that she broke the rules or something to get some of the verdicts she got. Instead it’s portrayed that she’s just a good attorney who works for bad people. That shouldn’t make her a bad person. As you said. I think if it were clear that she was successful by bending or braking the rules then I’d see her getting criminals off by using criminal behavior as unjustified and problematic. However by the rules of the show on how Hell works here. It doesn’t matter either way. If she was a good attorney giving bad people a good defense and she believes she’s a bad person for doing that then she condemns herself whether she’s ultimately right or wrong. She can sentence herself to Hell based on her own feelings, not based on doing anything wrong. That is a minor gripe I have with the show. But it plays loose with legal and police rules so I don’t think too much about it.

[@Sillydogification]

@@zemoxian Let the story line play out. We can discuss it further once Anna is caught up.

[@ChibiHoshiDragon]

Guarana from Kuat will get you sugar-drunk. Guaraná Antarctica will not. So though it is always Guarana for me, it all depends on the brand - the outcome is truly affected.

[@Thecanadianwitch]

im smoking MJ and drinking water

[@keithcole8536]

How are you today Anna

[@xtifr]

What happened to the show this season? Fox happened! They thought they were getting a spooky, risque, comic-book-based crime dramedy. Something to appeal to young male viewers. But, for _some_ reason, a show about a really _hot_ magic "bad boy" who never lies, and the single working mother that he falls for, turned out to appeal to a lot of women as well! Who could have guessed? 🙄 ☺ Anyway, you can charge a lot more for targeted advertising, so, after season 2 brought in a bunch of pesky female viewers, the Fox execs decided they needed to "fix" the show. 😑

[@JakkFrost1]

5:10 he kinda looks like Elon Musk, probably intentional.