Luciferian to Mormon - Eric's Conversion Story

[@zolle132]

The aaron vs kwaku debate made ma buy a book of mormon and now i am meeting with missionaries. God bless you all.

[@jbailey1898]

Love it!! Hang in there and remember whose you are!

[@dinocollins720]

Amazing!

[@BonsaiLex]

It’s been a year how did it turn out?

[@zolle132]

@@BonsaiLex i was baptized but i left the church because of scriptual issues Problems with the book of Mormon and i Dont believe in modern Revelation .now i am actually a Firm believer in tulip calvinism.what an irony

[@BonsaiLex]

@@zolle132 wow, what a turn of events. I understand. Happy to help you unravel some of the confusion in the Book of Mormon that you might have including modern day prophets. I know God loves you & has a plan for you. He loves you enough to give us a modern day prophet to guide us in this crazy life of obstacles & information coming at us from everywhere. Thanks for the reply wasn’t sure I would get one, specially so soon.

[@kianayasso9271]

When Eric said to ask with a sincere heart and pure intent then gave us the promised blessing 🥺 goosebumps. The church and doctrine of Jesus Christ is beautiful❤️

[@EdelweissM_TheJourney]

Wow, I thought I heard it all, but his conversion story made me realize that there are still amazing stories of finding the Gospel of Jesus Christ! Thank you, Eric, for sharing your story!

[@jeremymontanez9076]

I know! Lol

[@blue_indie6]

The more I study other religions, the more I appreciate certain parts of the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. This church really is the truest and I love God with all my heart for being so loving and merciful to all His children wherever they are in the world or whatever religion they are a part of. Thank you so much Eric for sharing your story with us!

[@ZehnWaters]

I've found so much more of an appreciation for our understanding by reading CS Lewis and some of the philosophical writings of Tolkien like the Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth.

[@goldencross2947]

@kiwibrown You mean Jesus Christ being God? He is,, not like the mormons think,, They changed doctrine after the BOM,, they continue to change,, Evolving do to not having the Truth,,

[@goldencross2947]

Camille,, Your guiding him in deception and you don't even know it,,, Id say for you to study Ezekiel 37,,, If you study that,, you will see the 1st of MANY deceptions in this Church,, They say that its the BOM and the Bible brought together,,, Read it,, Just read it,,, Has NOTHING to do with BOM,,,, Has to do ALL with Israel,, dry bones are the people of the scattered Israel,,,, In 1948 this is prophecy full filled,, Israel became a Nation again,,, It is NOT BOM and Bible together,,, Absolutely False 100%... This destroys mormonism,,, you cant trust it,,, I can Go on with facts,,, Here is a start though,, God Bless

[@Hamann9631]

@@goldencross2947 Wow. So sticks coming together wasn't a prophesy of stick coming together? I will stick with what it says in Ezekial.

[@johnf817]

The lds church literally changed the bible...

[@EaEnkiSonOfAnu]

Hey everyone. I just wanted to clear some things up. I found help during and after to see if I was actually crazy and nothing. They said I was perfectly fine. Did not hear things before or after this moment in my life. studied enough religion to understand what I know now. Studied religion and theology in college and nothing made sense until 3 years ago. No....... did not join for my wife. As a matter of fact I hated the church with a passion. I have as much schooling and education as the next person, have been in as many churches as the next, so there is absolutely no convincing me to leave the church nor turn against the doctrine. I have studied entirely to much of the bible and many other faith based doctrines and my conclusion from the teachings of the early church fathers are that I'm where I want to be. However I came to share my testimony of the truth I have found and to help others find it. I'm aware that peoples hearts will grow cold. The bible tells us this. But if a few can be saved its all worth it. I love you all and hope everyone is having an amazing day.

[@lordparsnips]

Thanks so much for sharing this! Incredible story, man.

[@wildcathawkins]

Thanks for sharing. I hope you're well. 🙂

[@YahisMyLife]

Wonderful testimony thank you. Did you know there’s actual physical proof of the book? Look up Wayne May , one cumorah videos by him and Rod meldrum in even dna found in certain Native American tribes, The Jaredites and firm foundation videos too. Happy learning and welcome to the fold brother .

[@Thatmormonchica]

I love your testimony! I was baptized October 2016 and it’s the best decision I’ve made. I was raised in a devout catholic family, I have my conversion story on my channel. We all need to put our testimonies out there because like you said google strays you away from the truth. hopefully KZbin will start being a place investigators can find answers. Missionaries are awesome..thank you for sharing !!

[@EaEnkiSonOfAnu]

@@lordparsnips your very welcome. 😊

[@kathytaylor4762]

This lovely man is in my ward. He and his wife are amazing people so happy to have watched this interview!!!! great job brother Samuels!!!

[@samuelsspen]

Aw thank you! We think you’re amazing too Kathy!

[@seerstone8982]

Hope he doesn't get another urge to stab a girl!..Looney tunes!

[@ahh-2-ahh]

This is the best conversion episode by far, I’m so happy for this guy!

[@brettmajeske3525]

That was a very brave story. Thank you for your testimony. It is so easy to miss the forest for the trees.

[@tpbarron]

What a GREAT GREAT guy!!!! I loved hearing your story so much. I too have a testimony about Jesus Christs church and couldn't feel more blessed to have it in my life. Thank you for sharing!!

[@Silv718]

It’s interesting to see someone with a similar story as me. I was baptized just before COVID-19 pandemic and without that support initially; I became unfocused. Thankfully, I have started back on my focus and feel the spirit.

[@SaintsUnscripted]

Hey we would love to hear your story if you would like to send us a message on either Facebook or Instagram. :)

[@patriotpatti7331]

Thank you so much for sharing your story. My ex left the church after about 7 yrs, he was a high priest but he never did read the BOM. I believe if he would have he would still be a member. He left to join our daughters church and now criticizes the church really strongly. I'm glad to see that you did the work to really study the gospel and pray about it. Our Father in Heaven wants us to be happy and will give us the answers we seek if we do it honestly and in faith.

[@hellurmoto3163]

It's okay sis, sometimes when you dont understand it as much, that tends to happen, it happened to me, I stopped going all together for 14 years, then life happened, I went to other churches several times, and it was great they were all lovely, kind, caring christian people, but I never found the answers I NEEDED from the other churches, I didn't feel the same true peace. So I've started going back and it's amazing how much better i understand it all, I'd let the words go in and out my ears growing up, I wasnt interested, until this point in my life. I'm so happy I'm starting to go back to church, keep your prayers up for your family, and your faith, let them see it through you ♡ take it easy on yourself, he knows your heart, he will find a way for your partner and your family ♡

[@Forestgump12able]

COME, COME. YE SAINTS NO TOIL OR LABOR FEEL. THERE ARE THINGS TO WORK ON, TO IMPROVE OR PROVE YOUR LIKE. THANK YOU.

[@karostef9462]

Love this! Thank you for sharing it.

[@tererere462]

You just make me cry cry listening to your powerfull testimony so happy for you my brother Erick , love from New Zealqnd latter day saints

[@thetutorlyfe_]

Thank you for making this. Eric’s testimony will likely resonate with a friend of mine .

[@itsHeatherKay]

Love this conversion story. You can see the brilliance of the light emanating in his spirit. You can see his testimony in his eyes.

[@DefyingGravity382]

"A plan of salvation rather than a plan of damnation". That's good. Haven't heard that before.

[@salustone5657]

Eric, you are a jewel…you have enlightened me, and I was born and raised in the LDS Church. God bless you. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️Saints Unscripted, thank you for sharing these testimonies.👍❤️🙏🏼

[@markh7665]

I just found this video on my recommendation and it really helped me . I am very confused if the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true but I guess this is the answer that I prayed for.❤

[@BonsaiLex]

Sometimes answers don’t come in a lump sum rather they come in small nuggets of truth and this might just be one of them. Keep praying & keep the faith. You got this!

[@ethancate8462]

Hi Mark! The answer probably won't come all at once, you will find the truth eventually though. I can testify that this is the true church and God would love to have you here, don't forget to stay humble and seeking the truth!

[@markkrispin6944]

Once you do a deep research on the history of the Mormon cult church, you will find out that it is a false, man made religion

[@lisapaige6530]

It's true. Keep studying- Keep asking questions.

[@davden965]

I could probably answer all your questions. The thing is, that true devotion and testimony comes directly from receiving light and knowledge from the spirit. Like in the New Testament when the apostles tried to banish an evil spirit, Christ said: This kind goeth not out but fasting and prayer only. Fasting is showing God that you are willing to give up temporal things for spiritual reasons.

[@shuaster]

Having a conversion in Ohio, I had a similar situation of, going to other churches and coming back with a concern of them missing something.

[@wtfschindler]

After watching this, my heart has been awakened. I am in a similar situation and would like to meet with missionaries but no sure where to start my journey.

[@kristinrichmond8185]

Did you find missionaries in your area?

[@marlenej7951]

You can go to a local church building on Sunday and ask anyone there for help to contact the local missionaries.

[@wtfschindler]

@@marlenej7951 do u mean the temple or?

[@wtfschindler]

@@kristinrichmond8185 I can't seem to find any

[@natandjoec]

@@wtfschindler did you find the missionaries?

[@marilynjensen8096]

Incredible story! Thank you for sharing!

[@bukuroshebytyci185]

I was a LaVeyan Satanist myself as a kid. I was going through a rough time and I felt stifled, constricted, and wild. Satanism made me feel like someone finally understood me. The people I talked to weren’t evil by any means, but I eventually grew out of it. I don’t *regret* the experience, I’ve never regretted any experience I’ve had with a religion, it was just something that happened and I chalk it up to youthful rebellion.

[@CranberryGraves]

As a kid you probably didn't understand the philosophy, which is why you grew out of it.

[@wildcathawkins]

Great story. I relate to your learning process. Trying to find proof of it is natural but never works. God shows us the truth in personal ways when we seek him. I wish I would have spent the last few years in church not combing through apologetics and polemics. Glad to have a testimony. Grateful I got to hear yours.

[@steverhoades5140]

Thanks for sharing Eric, and to all who provide Saints Unscripted videos! Continued success humbly sharing genuine experiences.

[@michaelcrowley9008]

I am glad you shared this conversion. I also have felt often that I had heard this before. That I was one of the many of the Spirits of Heaven, to speak and teach in the war in heaven. I have a profound understanding and a witness of that. This subject hits me quite deeply and I remember it to be true. I don't know how I remember something from before I was born. Unless it has something to do with the thin of the vail. So thanks for that witness.

[@EMRAE_8]

I remember a little something from pre- earth life. It was when I was making a choice whether I would choose Christ's plan or Lucifers. There was a division growing and I remember seeing a waterfall. It's not much but I always say that all those who have had a body chose Christ once and we're here in life now to see if we will choose Him again.

[@carmenbrown4051]

Thank you for sharing your testimony!! 🕊️🌟

[@seansomoray2879]

I'm really really loving this show. Thanks for creating such inspiring content!

[@davisdm2]

Wow what a rollercoaster of a conversion with an awesome ending! Talk about endurance to not give up through all that adversity!

[@jocelyntrishell]

This is awesome!!

[@MsEva9470]

Thank you for sharing your great testimony 👏😊

[@katherinew1521]

Amazing testimony, thank you!

[@jamiem2444]

Wow, what a cool story!

[@Hamann9631]

23:00. That was a great line from the movie. I think it was Joseph Smith Senior, not Alvin who said that.

[@bubba7665]

Alvin

[@jeremyarrieta6869]

Eric is a converted. I really felt the Spirit of the Lord from you. Thank you for your testimony

[@zaccblack103]

It was such an inspiring story and testimony brother Eric. Thank you for that. ❤❤

[@SaintsUnscripted]

Thanks for watching!

[@CarlosWashingtonMercado]

Eric, this is an adventure, I hope you succeed. It is a harsh adventure sometimes. I think that’s the fun part...

[@henryponnefz1419]

This is amazing!

[@rogervaldez-vi5hq]

Did not believe in church till I hit bottom one day ,was preying ,and missionary sisters came,now on top again

[@BettyHorn]

Awesome and Anen!

[@michaelsheflo]

This is a fascinating and uplifting conversion. I liked towards the end the comment about if the BoM isnt true, then the Bible isnt either. I always found it odd of people who left the church who still claimed to be Christian. I figure if I ever left, I definitely would not believe in God at all. Its all or nothing in my mind! God bless you, Eric!

[@GlenLawlor]

Thanks Eric and God bless us all.

[@Motlatsi]

Not everyone is looking for truth, many want to argue with truth. In my discussion years gone with Anti's and regular folks I have come to learn this and a few things for myself. Thank you for this episode guys ( I'm two years early)Lol

[@riskkerroo724]

I feel so impressed by this feeling throughout Eric’s story with a feeling of wow… idk why or what but there is some real reason that satan wanted or needed to lead Eric away from our Father in Heaven. That he is special and important to God specifically. And then especially with hearing how he felt that The Plan of Salvation felt familiar and things…it’s so cool and so amazing to me and so inspiring. But I think my biggest take away as well about this story is that it’s a reminder to all of us again that satan is real and as real as our Savior and our Heavenly Father. And that while we don’t believe in “hell” the exact same as other Christian faiths - that it’s still important to remember that Satan isn’t a metaphor for all bad or just a personification of evil, but that he is real and fights activity to lead us away. This was such a thrilling and spirit- filled video. Thank you!

[@jonathanettinger6970]

Easily one of the best videos I've seen on this channel. Deepest appreciation for Bro and Sis Samuels for reaching out and sharing this. As for anyONE coming here just to argue in circles: you don't get anywhere by belittling others. Respect and reason yield consideration. Offering truth and pointing out errors can be done without condescension or ridicule. Sinking to that level shows the criticisms to be baseless, rooted in emotion. "Your" better off saying nothing at all.

[@danielmariner8665]

Thanks for sharing 😇

[@Josh-Briscoe-Utah]

Great story! Anyone know what episode of Paranormal Witness he was on?

[@samuelsspen]

It’s called The Contract.

[@Josh-Briscoe-Utah]

@@samuelsspen thanks

[@rogervaldez-vi5hq]

Book of Mormon, is the most correct book

[@dinocollins720]

So cool! So powerful!

[@pamelafitzpatrick2717]

Hello Eric, I'm from Wales, i would love to know who the Welsh Elder was who taught you!

[@shadowdraco8660]

I love this conversation. It is a lot based on faith though there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that does prove the church and Book of Mormon true. Just this last week I was struggling with my faith though things just started to click into place and my faith came back. The things I struggle with mentally I view as a “nerf” from god because I was too strong.😂 Though my testimony has been coming back. And I feel it is stronger than it was before.

[@merleortega1286]

You have a good heart and God knows you desire to be righteous . THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your COURAGE to do what's right .... from the Philippines 😊

[@Whatiftheresmore1314]

Awesome story! 💕☀️ My husband read the Book of Mormon to prove it a fraud as well. He ended up joining the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS… and has been a faithful member for the past 34 years.

[@SaintsUnscripted]

Nice!!!

[@gabriellemarquez4135]

Eric, We have such a similar conversion story. I would love to connect!

[@EaEnkiSonOfAnu]

Hey I would love to connect. Sorry it’s taking 4 months to get back to you lol. But yes would love to.

[@susanbright8735]

🤗Thank you

[@SaintsUnscripted]

Thanks for watching Susan!

[@latter-daywatch]

Would love to find this guy to talk with him.

[@authorbrucejacobs]

What episode of Paranormal Witness was it? I'd like to watch that episode if I can find it

[@henryponnefz1419]

Eric, what did your parents think about your conversion?

[@Irvingdector]

Thank you thank you Erik.

[@exbrotherbryce5029]

Interesting stuff

[@debbiegreener6758]

Do you know which episode of Saints Unscripted talks about Ann Frank?

[@samuelsspen]

It’s not a Saints Unscripted one that he references. It’s from Kwaku’s channel

[@rconger384]

@Debbie his channel "XVI Stone".

[@justinbosley692]

The CoJCLDS plan of salvation, including repentance after death and kingdoms of glory, is the most beautiful thing about our church and looking at other faiths, I can't understand how anyone would not want to believe it. For other Christian faiths you'd have to believe that God is not very just or merciful to send people to hell simply because they never learned about Jesus.

[@henryponnefz1419]

All the best to you!

[@big-onions-and-ogres]

"I was in a cult too!" A supportive boyfriend.

[@patriciadumont2940]

I cannot understand what he quoted from Joseph smith'sbrother.I listened overand over . He did not say it clearly. What did he say? Please

[@binmyrtmind]

It all comes down to actual Doctrine. The doctrine of God the Father, and his plan for his family carried about by our Savior Jesus Christ. We should be forever grateful for the undying love and sacrifice he made for us. We are all his children, he loves us and desires what is best for all of us; not only some of us, but each and every son and daughter is loved and precious in his sight. How can one reject such deep love and devotion? I know of no other faith that can truthfully through revelation answer the questions; 'Where did I come from?, Why am I here?, and Where am I going?'. All because a young boy with a pure heart and real intent asked God one question. Look upon the truths given him which tied the Bible and Book of Mormon together to gather and unite God's family, 'the house of Israel', from all parts of the earth into his fold. Who doesn't want to be with their families throughout all eternity? We should be grateful to the prophet Joseph Smith for the burden he bore in behalf of the human family for it was not easy.

[@germanslice]

The Prophet Jeremiah saw that event of that young boy prophet God drew out in Chapter 30.

[@goldencross2947]

That is false,, They are NOT from the house of Israel,, Not at all,, Read Ezekiel 37,, If you don't understand the Old Testament,, you wont get this,, but plain as day,, talks about Nations,, The Sticks of dry bones is Israel becoming a Nation back in 1948,,, Nothing to do with LDS doctrine,,, and thats how this religion works,, pulls doctrine to its own benefit,, even though it contradicts itself right there in the Bible,, Any questions,, please ask,, Thank you

[@germanslice]

@@goldencross2947 It seems that you don't understand the scriptures. Look, The brothers of Joseph tore up his coat of many colors into abt 12 pieces. So God did the same thing to his brothers as they done to the coat of Joseph and scattered the 12 tribes of Israel and he scattered them all across the whole entire planet. So All the Nations on the earth are actually descendants of all the scattered tribes of the house of Israel they descended from all those tribes that God had caused them to be all scattered. So you obviously have distorted the truth if you believe that only just the nation of Israel is the only lawful heir in the House of Israel. No, there is another heir. For Joseph of Egypt is also a lawful heir to the rights and blessings of the Priesthood of God. And when the other scattered tribes of Israel all return back again when they return back then they too will become lawful heirs to the rights and blessings of the priesthood if they come into Zion and accept the covenant of Abraham which Joseph had inherited the blessings from......That is why there must be a restitution of all things to fulfill all the promises that God the Father has made to the House of Israel to bring back all the scattered tribes to restore back their blessings..

[@goldencross2947]

@@germanslice Oh,, Joseph was? I thought ONLY,, blood from the the line of Levites? And there was ONLY ONE High Priest at a time,, He would go into Holy of Holies once a year to do a blood sacrifice,, But you think you have a priesthood,, And you Dont,, Also,, 100% wrong!!! 12 pieces of a coat,,,, Come on,,,, Its scattered dry bones,,,, Those bones are scattered Israel,, there was the last 2 bones,, they were joined together in 1948,,, You dont know what your talking about,,, Make up stuff to do your doctrine,,, You have to understand the old testament,,, has NOTHING to do with America lol,,, You should be a stand up comedian lol

[@goldencross2947]

@@germanslice You get one thing wrong,, which you are,,, The doctrine falls,, which it does over and over again,,, you sound like a kid,,, persistant and ignorant to learning,,, READ READ READ Ezekiel 37,, Its right there!!,, not what your saying buddy,, its right there,, and its NOT BOM and Bible,, read it lol

[@seans5289]

How would you determine whether or not spiritual witnesses come from Lucifer?

[@bluegill0133]

Prayer and the Holy Ghost

[@seans5289]

@@bluegill0133: That’s what I’m asking. How do you know the feelings attributed to the Holy Ghost aren’t feelings from Lucifer?

[@goldencross2947]

@@seans5289 You aren't supposed to trust your feelings,, sounds like you know and understand that,,,, Watch Han Raddas,, He's the best to show the Truth of this False Church,, God bless

[@seans5289]

@@goldencross2947: I’m not sure you’ve answered my question. This wouldn’t only apply to the LDS church. How would any theist determine the source of a spiritual witness?

[@goldencross2947]

@@seans5289 You dont go by feeling,,, The Word of God is your fact checker,, All those who are mormon or any other religion, corporations use fear tactics to try and secure beliefs,, being they are already falsely led,, satan says why stop there,,, if you dont do this,, you want get this,,, Religions are synonymous with feelings,,, You go o the Word of God and cross reference,,, What belief are you acquainted with? Thank you

[@devonblake731]

That was intense

[@patriciadumont2940]

May I talk by phone with you? I am a member for 40 plus years and I want to help someone who has lost their testimony. You may have the perspective this person needs.

[@thelonleyleader]

Wow this is so amazing. Satan wanted you away from God and Christ because he knows you have a powerful mind and determination that can change so many people's lives. He is affraid of you and for good reason. 💪Welcome home!

[@riskkerroo724]

My impressions exactly!

[@cabarete2003]

I joined 30 some years ago. Not sure how I got here cause I wasn't looking for God. I feel like I played in the minor leagues in life and God pulled me put to the big leagues. I play with some strong people now.

[@arickfakhar1717]

One thing to get straight here. Luciferian can be but is not specifically, the worship of Lucifer as an entity. As you have splinters of faith in Christianity (protestant, lutheran, catholic) you too have this in Luciferian However, the faith doesnt follow traditional religious structure, so you can not really compare the two. I have seen the faith be splintered into what are essentially two camps; Atheistic Luciferianism and Theistic Luciferianism. While Theistic Luciferianism is more akin to this gentlemans experience, Atheistic Luciferianism is the opposite, as in Lucifer is not an entity that is worshipped, but an idea. The idea of self worship, worship of humanity, and or the worship of the Adversarial Spirit (ir rebel spirit). This varies based on an individuals search for apotheosis. All I am getting at is don't categorize Luciferianism based on traditional relgious structure, cause its not.

[@PIF95]

Where in the Bible does Jesus say the church must be named after him? I’ve never read that. Even so, there are plenty of Christian churches with Jesus’ name in them, The Church of Christ is an example.

[@natandjoec]

The church of Christ is a split off of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints

[@PIF95]

@@natandjoec No, that’s not true. The Church of Christ is a Protestant denomination. It has no affiliation to the LDS church at all.

[@michaelcrowley9008]

28:56

[@tyhatfield7156]

Yeah, it’s pretty crazy. The biggest thing though is I don’t know the church of Satan I think they have a Bible also, I didn’t get to hear the whole thing I was just hearing some and it’s interesting because in that church they have exactly the same where I had heard. There was priests that do the sacrament they would do all these different things they had bishops they have everything the same but it’s the opposite and 100% is this true because I don’t know if it’s what he went through but I know that one of my friends went through the church of Satan and he had all these things he was a high-level in it and then had this big thing happened to him where he joined the church and left it all behind him but I didn’t hear about that so if someone else please let me know

[@bettykunz3559]

A good one

[@hyde33]

What a lil punkin you are. Sounds like your wife’s patience paid off. She’s a lucky gurl. And well, you’re lucky she hung onto ya.

[@thundersheep001]

I can testify that Satan is real that his church is real that he like, God the father, has ordnances, has set apart teachers, quorums, priests, followers, and an agenda to bring about the total and complete destruction of everything the God and his Christ stands for. That we are at war, that same war we read about in scripture. Stay vigilant and follow the brethren, the holy prophets of God, time is now that we will not survive spiritually if we do not have personal revelation from the holy spirit. Be that warrior and not a statistic

[@IIrandhandleII]

What an incredible coincidence!!!! I converted to a Luciferian from Mormonism!!

[@Phi1Productions]

Is Eric saying that the Luciferian church was stabbing young girls for Lucifer? Is this still going on now? I haven't heard about it in the news.

[@Allison_Slayz]

Eric is my dad

[@yea.whtvr1]

Repent for the kingdom is at hand. Jesus loves you, He died on the cross for you and me to save us from our sins

[@heatherluna5075]

🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍

[@danthechristian6097]

The answer to the question of "Why would God send any of his children to hell?" is HE WON'T. The only way to be a spirit child of God is by adoption. Matthew 13:38; John 1:12-13; Romans 8:14-17; Galatians 3:26; 4:4-5; Ephesians 1:4-5; 1 John 3:1,10. And the only way to be adopted into God's family is to put one's trust in Jesus. John 1:12-13. The idea that we existed as spirits in a premortal heaven is a lie, according to Jesus. John 8:23. "[H]e that came down from heaven, even the Son of man" (John 3:13) is literally the only spirit from heaven to be born in a human body. We are not all "children of God incarnate". There is only ONE of those. The heavenly host created before the earth does not overlap with the spirits placed in human bodies in the womb. Unless Ann Frank believed in Jesus before her death, she never received a remission for her sins. Just because a sinner dies in a holocaust doesn't mean the sinner gets to bypass John 14:6 and turn Jesus into a liar. This is fundamental Christian doctrine, per Jesus. It has nothing to do with Calvinism, though the debate you mentioned involved an explanation of it from a Calvinist perspective (unfortunately).

[@LordOfThePancakes]

This guy is disturbing how he describes voices telling him to harm that little girl

[@luciferrising4705]

None of what you are speaking is reflective of the NLC.

[@joshuakelly9788]

666 likes!! hahahhha

[@SaintsUnscripted]

Uh oh 😳

[@tieflingcorpse9817]

tell me you were never actually luciferian without telling me you were never actually luciferian

[@PapaKryptoss]

I could never get married to someone that didn't have the same religious beliefs as I. This is a weird story

[@samuelsspen]

Luckily it isn't your story.

[@everythingbutthegirlfan762]

Please use the proper name of the Church. Thanks!

[@PIF95]

So this guy went from a church who worshiped Lucifer who promised he would become like God, to a church that promises he will become like God. Not seeing much of a difference here 🤔 Seems like Satan never lost a stronghold on this man. That’s heartbreaking.

[@andrewdurfee3896]

Lucifer can’t make us like Jesus Christ or Heavenly Father. Christ was the one who died for us and made it possible for us to be joint heirs with Him that we might inherit all that he has.

[@PIF95]

@@andrewdurfee3896 But Lucifer can trick people into following a false Christ. Mormons say “Jesus,” but they’re not referring to the Jesus of the Bible.

[@williamburych2136]

What's the difference between Luciferian and Mormon ???????

[@Xanduur]

I don’t understand why people feel a need to worship something.

[@johnsax1445]

Talk about about “out of the frying pan and into the fire” 😱

[@marleighr2023]

This is such a strange perspective no doubt....

[@101trus]

not really. People view God as a tyrant and unjust. God kept the human race imprisoned and dull in the garden of eden.. Lucifer provided mankind with knowledge and the ability to think for themselves... Just like how Americans view the American rebellion against the British, the Luciferians view their faith as a proper and justified rebellion.

[@wehrewulf]

From one cult to another.

[@wanderings8168]

Funny how the main goal of his doctrine didn't change when he changed religions.

[@j.athanasius9832]

Dang. 😬 Wow, if only this guy has discovered Orthodoxy. All the structure he seems to crave, and the true doctrine of theosis rather than the satanic (and unfortunately lds) doctrine of exaltation

[@donhoppe1558]

No

[@yea.whtvr1]

THIS MAN WENT FROM BEING DECIEVED TO BEING DECIEVED. I PRAY FOR YOUR SOUL BROTHER! JESUS IS LORD , MORMONS WILL PERISH IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.

[@KevZen2000]

Mormonism teaches mankind becomes a god when they die. They also believe God is similar to a past human who evolved to Godhood.

[@andrewmohlman7857]

Well, in Matthew 5:48, Christ did invite/command us to be perfect like God the Father so there must be some way for us to keep that commandment or he wouldn't have said that.

[@talisanoberlandr]

My dude left a more preferable religion for Mormonism lol

[@talisanoberlandr]

Just kidding: they're both on par in terms of sensibility

[@bukuroshebytyci185]

A person’s spiritual experience is their own business. I’ve felt spirituality in many places, and his soul journey took him to the LDS church just like your soul will take you where *you* are meant to go. Judgement is worthless, really, and everyone is unique.

[@cultofthevoid5677]

​@@bukuroshebytyci185I'm a Luciferian and I actually agree with you. Spirituality is a personal choice, it's a matter of freewill which is a big thing within Luciferianism.

[@slenin8088]

Complete nonsense, as I am a Luciferian myself.

[@samuelsspen]

Hmmm. Really?

[@cultofthevoid5677]

I'm a Luciferian as well. I thought he spouted a lot of nonsense as well.