The Others Were Green Men! A Song of Ice and Fire - House of the Dragon - Game of Thrones

[@Narrowdark]

when the world needed him the most, he returned.

[@ThommyofThenn]

Very nice and tasteful avatar pic. Have a good day

[@YarPirates-vy7iv]

You're crazy, GRRM isn't returning with Winds EVER!

[@ThommyofThenn]

@YarPirates-vy7iv hey look we have another greenseer

[@YarPirates-vy7iv]

​@@ThommyofThennMartin sacrificed the last two books in exchange for miniatures. I was there.

[@cherylbaxter8986]

???❄🔥🐲​@@YarPirates-vy7iv

[@theladyofthetides]

gotta go babe. dave just dropped new green man lore

[@julianasilveira4806]

i would sell my family for the figurative turkish delight of a david lightbringer narnia analysis

[@YarPirates-vy7iv]

I'll buy them if they're not too expensive.

[@RolloTonéBrownTown]

This is such a high quality, subtle reference

[@joshuafischer684]

Narnia is a 1:1 symbolic copy of the Bible.

[@YarPirates-vy7iv]

@@joshuafischer684 big kitty = Jesus?

[@theBlundstoneEmperor]

Sat down to praise garth and had no video to watch, then this notification popped up - divine david/garthian timing

[@MrScottermonkey]

Garth be praised

[@DavidLightbringer]

haha boy is this ever the video for you

[@ThommyofThenn]

More like Blunt stone am i right!

[@Leif_of_Kasper]

HARD SAME

[@ThommyofThenn]

My mum has always been a big Narniahead and she read the entire Chronicles series to me. Never really got back into that world once I became interested in other fantasy so it would actually be really nice to see the series from your POV

[@Atinyshark]

"Sexy, sexy elves" - David Lightbringer 2024

[@DavidLightbringer]

how's a First man to resist

[@ThommyofThenn]

We've all seen those "what X do to a mf" memes but what about what does x do to a FM (first man)

[@Leif_of_Kasper]

U know it

[@j-rey-]

Ho ho ho 😏

[@thedornishmanswife3712]

Loving the new set up. 11/10 would add to my Pinterest board 👍 Congrats on your move.

[@DavidLightbringer]

now THAT is a compliment

[@LostLuigiLassie]

Yes Narnia please! I would honestly listen to the mythical breakdown of any media you felt like covering at the time

[@ThommyofThenn]

I had thought the background couldn't be more charming but then David brings more plants in. Nice way to "go green" as it were! Oh and I think i know the direction this theory will go...

[@UnderBarrowBog]

Not sure I’ve ever been more excited for a LML notification. Can’t wait to watch tonight, thank you David!

[@thelaughingstormbornagain1297]

I don't know if this is a hot take in the LML community but your analysis of A Song of Ice and Fire through the lens of mythology has always been fascinating and extremely thought provoking.

[@DavidLightbringer]

thank you! I'll take it as a great compliment :)

[@thelaughingstormbornagain1297]

@DavidLightbringer My KZbin recap says I spent nearly 12,000 minutes listening to you this year. That is 110% because of the variety of ways you torture uh I mean, analyze the text.

[@ThommyofThenn]

It is a correct take! And The Laughing Storm is one of the coolest epiphets in all of fiction imo

[@ThommyofThenn]

The Smiling Knight is another good one but it's only effective because we learn that in reality, he was an infamous criminal. This gives us an image of a killer deranged enough to take great pleasure in hurting people. With the Laughing Storm though, we dont need much more than that to see him as a great champion skilled both in battle and courtly appeal

[@alonnawood]

Dave!!! the art, the film setup, the humor-this hit all the marks. You’ve been killing it lately!!🎉❤

[@standuplive1]

Sir Lightbringer I must thank you. A lot of your content can be quite a tangent but youve truly brought me closer to understanding ASOIAF with this video and thats a rare thing by the year. THANK YOU HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

[@benwhite9138]

Appreciate the entertainment man you really bring the story to life I started reading the books after watching one of your videos a few years back keep up the great work I’m hyped for this video 👍🏼

[@funonthebun7662]

George needs to release the books for this mans well being

[@DavidLightbringer]

ah ha ha.. ha... ha.. **madd laughter**

[@JrrToking]

David, you make these videos look effortless. You draw precise conclusions out of an extremely dense and sometimes vague text. Keep it up brother, you are doing the 7’s work!

[@DavidLightbringer]

haha, nice handle

[@nickycha8428]

I love all of your theories, analysis, and breakdowns. Please don't ever stop.

[@noahh2338]

Banger video, as per usual👍

[@molleh3180]

Love this! My grandma is Irish; I really need to learn more about Irish mythology as I find it very interesting

[@reirawho6174]

One could even describe the others turning people into ice wights as some kind of corrupted mating ritual

[@bigcardboardbox88]

im praising Garth so hard right now

[@OctopusWithNoFriends]

(Garth is one lucky fella)

[@ThommyofThenn]

🌚🌠

[@Leif_of_Kasper]

Just got home from a run to get Garth-praising-supplies to see this upload. I am R-E-A-D-Y

[@ThommyofThenn]

@Leif_of_Kasper I have the sugar of Garth. The sweetness of the forest is not always green, nor is it always a flower. In truth, it resembles more closely Weirwood paste that has been dried to be crumbly. The Old magic of the woods, distilled by the arts of man.

[@ThommyofThenn]

@Leif_of_Kasper and by "man" I'm using it in the archaic sense meaning "people" in general. There are many women and non-binary friends who work in the industry now. Especially in places with 100% legalization! I'm glad it can create jobs for people, in fact my bestie manages his own Garthstore

[@exilhannabal]

FINALLY WERE GETTING TO THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE LETS TALK ABIUT IT

[@exilhannabal]

This'll ve helpful cuz I'm working on a green man inspired character rn

[@ShmooRay]

Banger video! Thanks, David! I like the chair, you're like a green man Mr. Rogers.

[@cherylbaxter8986]

I just noticed the little Weirwood tree on your beautiful cabinet thank you for this i needed something to Brighton me up been listening to the book's on U Tube by David Reads ASOIAF that I'm totally enjoying

[@lyarrastark6254]

Another great one, David, thank you!

[@angela777K]

Yay! Happy Holly-Days Dave!

[@TheBlueWizardOfWestVirginia]

Gimme the Narnia goods lore daddy

[@DavidLightbringer]

hahaha that's what i call a request

[@natedavis1005]

I get chills imagining the Others appearing down south when the magic holding them back is released. It will be one POV of chaos to the next. It didn’t make sense why the Night King didn’t fly south and take control of Kingslanding and its inhabitants in the show.

[@mattjones1869]

Great video - really well structured and super engaging.

[@greygowder5558]

Another fascinating adventure into mythology, symbolism, and the importance of conflict between humanity and nature (supernatural) in Martin's world. The emphasis on the Fair Folk, ancient trees, ancient barrows, conflict between people and ancient forest spirits, and many of the other points discussed in the video reminded me a lot of the opening chapters of Fellowship of the Ring. We know George is inspired by Tolkien's work with a goal of subverting or adapting elements of it to make it fit his vision of the world and of morality. What if the world he was building and the core symbolic components drew inspiration from elements of Tolkien's Old Forest and the myths behind it? In Middle Earth, the Old Forest was a dark and ancient woodland made up of oaks, ash, and other ancient trees. This is the home of the oldest beings in the world, born long before the elves awoke on the far side of the world. The three oldest beings are Tom Bombadil, Goldberry, and the corrupted and vengeful tree spirit Old Man Willow. The Old Forest was the last of what was once a vast wood, cut down by wave upon wave of beings arriving in Middle Earth, until the ancient magical forest was reduced to a fragmented and shadowy patchwork. The tree shepherds, Ents, now just a legend rarely seen by common folk. Bombadil relates that of the corrupted trees of the Old Forest, "none were more dangerous than the Great Willow; his heart was rotten, but his strength was green; and he was cunning, and a master of winds, and his song and thought ran through the woods on both sides of the river. His grey thirsty spirit drew power out of the earth and spread like fine root-threads in the ground, and invisible twig-fingers in the air, till it had under its dominion nearly all the trees of the Forest from the Hedge to the Downs." The Hedge Tom Bombadil refers to is the giant living wall created by the ruling family of the Hobbits to hold back the ancient forest that seeks to reclaim the land from the settlers that usurped it. For many many generations, the Bucklanders maintained the hedge to guard against the danger of a vengeful forest on the other side. The only way through it was a great private gate that the ruling family could access to clear back the forest from the far side of the hedge to prevent the trees from invading Buckland. Within the forest was a tributary river called the Withywindle that flowed to the Brandywine. The entire forest acted as a catchment for the Withywindle, funneling and channeling the water and everything else towards a specific point, the clutches of Old Man Willow (the weir/garth/ancient demented tree that ensnares and consumes people). Old Man Willow represents corrupted nature, the fusion of the tree with an imprisoned and vengeful ancient mind poisoning the living world around it with darkness. Tolkien writes of "how that grey thirsty earth-bound spirit had become imprisoned in the greatest Willow of the [Old] Forest." On the far eastern edge of the forest, we find the Barrow Downs, the ancient burial mounds of long-dead men. The wights of these men still haunt the mounds. These are based on the ancient barrows, passage tombs, and cairns of Britain, Ireland and the Northern European legends. For the Irish, they are the homes and palaces of the Fair Folk, also known as the People of the Mounds. Tolkein's Barrow-wights come from draugrs of Norse myth, so we can learn something important about George RR Martin's symbolism from the multi-faceted meaning of "draugr" in Old Norse poetry. While the most visible and common form of draugr is the undead knights or spirits of ancient warriors that do battle with Icelandic or Norse heroes for the treasures (or magical weapons) buried with them in their tombs/palaces. What makes the concept of draugr more interesting in our case is the double meaning of the word through the Old Norse concept of kennings, which uses wordplay to add meaning. The other meaning of draugr, "a tree trunk or dry dead wood, or in poetry could refer to a man or warrior," comes from one of the Norse origins of humanity. One belief is that Odin created the first men from trees, so in Norse poetic wordplay, a felled tree's trunk has the same symbolic meaning as a dead man's corpse. We have seen these revenant undead all over the place in ASOIAF so far and the connection to the trees is highly visible. The Starks are the children of the First Men, born of the trees, and the keepers of the largest and grandest portal tomb/barrow mound in Westeros. Based on the proximity of Winterfell to the Barrowlands and the construction of Winterfell atop a massive portal tomb or barrow mound, the Starks could be living in a draugr's palace, guarding the dead and the hidden treasures buried deep in the Otherworld below. The iconography of wolves for the Starks adds to this from the symbolic connection between wolves and death/the dead in Celtic and Norse mythology. The Norse saw wolves as the untamable force of nature while also associating them with the cyclical nature of life and death. Celts in Ireland saw wolves as the intermediaries between the living and the dead with the ability to communicate with spirits. In the Fellowship of the Ring, when the hobbits escape the trance and death ceremony of the wight, Merry (the keeper of the key to the Hedge gate) wakes remembering "only a death not his own" with the personality of the dead warrior's spirit within him freed from the evil corruption of the Witch King's wight. This fits well with the idea that some of our heroes in ASOIAF may need to enter the trance of the dead to rescue the dead warriors/trees from the evil corruption preventing the world from healing.

[@DavidLightbringer]

hey it's a super long comment that was actually outstanding, thank you. Yes there is certainly more to be said about draugrs and wights in Norse myth and how that influences ASOIAF, and I love the bit about them being analogous to felled or rotting trees. That askr / embla myth is one I think GRRM is thinking about. That's cool about Old Man WIllow, it's been a while since I've read the main books. Sounds like something worth exploring re: the corruption of the weirnet and the idea of AA's dead spirit being in there as the Great Other

[@benabroad8872]

Green-men deniers in shambles after the HOTD finale

[@DavidLightbringer]

hahahaha

[@shadowsandcuriosities]

Praise Garth! 🎉

[@vibeyandvibeless]

dude when i got the notification i thought it was another short but 53 minutes? This is the best thing ever!!

[@cyndinotcindy]

Hello, long time fan, first time comment, love your work and content, thank you for the brain explosions you bring with your content and exorbitant knowledge of the lore and how patterns unfold in the stories. Excellent work 👏

[@DavidLightbringer]

thank you so much Cindy!

[@Brellowcrop]

Haven't had a chance to listen to this yet, but i sure as hell will. Love this topic. History and lore of the Wight Walkers, baby

[@ShelbyOfOldStones]

Love the Green myth talk. Also I’d totally geek out over some Narnian chronicles discussion. The relationship between Tolkien and Lewis is so interesting.

[@mijo3303]

'While a thousand stars watched coldly" - '"A thousand eyes, and one"

[@conniesuper9892]

Yay!A new video!Thank you!Have a happy new year!

[@evrxmor]

Been waiting for this one since your calendar art/isle of faces video 😬🎉

[@thalmoragent9344]

The Others being corrupted/iced-up Green men makes a lot of sense. I remember the last major video on the Green Men/Old Ones that you made, the theory really kicked off, it seems. 😮

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

Bravo! Keep up the great work D. BEEEZY!!

[@joshuaodekirk]

When you said that "weir could also mean dam" it made me think of how the Wall is kinda like a dam, and if it's structure is made out of weirwoods that would add another layer to the word play.

[@DavidLightbringer]

it's described as a frozen stream, and since it weeps, it's also a frozen "veil of tears"

[@LitcheTheArsm]

Your setup/background is so stunning! ❤

[@cmschmidt]

I’m here for the ride my friend I’m here for all the analysis. Praise Garth and long may you bring the light! Also that cabinet is 💯 the vibe.

[@hinakhodiyara7883]

Awesome video David, thank you. See you in the New Year, have a good one :)

[@Woodz0504]

Red team review won’t like how much sick content you’re releasing atm

[@DavidLightbringer]

hahahaha

[@Woodz0504]

@@DavidLightbringer tbh it’s always sick but lately 🥵

[@MrNoble1997]

Late to the drop, but so hyped for this!! Praising Garth as I watch

[@Fathoms09]

Working through a couple of Bran's chapters in Dance. Just got to the Jojen Paste! Thanks for the continued quality content, Dave!

[@paulmphoto]

LML "between two ferns"

[@Ma55ey]

Glad that you and quinn are still buddies..

[@thalmoragent9344]

2:04 Chronicles of Narnia Mythology? Absolutely man, that would be a hit for sure. At least for the OG's 🗣

[@Grogeous_Maximus]

Wow, neat set 💚

[@TheBlueWizardOfWestVirginia]

Where do I get a Praise Garth shirt?

[@DavidLightbringer]

click the bonfire store link below the video in the description!

[@danielngubane7518]

Hello everyone. Much love from South Africa 🇿🇦.

[@magicquill1116]

I'd personally love to hear you crack up some insane theories on the Chronicles of Narnia Lore.

[@MarieGarrett.]

YES YES YES!!! PLEASE DO CHRONICLES OF NARNIA SPECIFICALLY THE BOOKS THAT WERE NOT MADE INTO MOVIES! THE MAGICIAN'S NEPHEW, THE HORSE AND HIS BOY AND THE SILVER CHAIR WERE MY FAVORITES!!!❤❤❤

[@AshtheGreenMan]

The truth is out! Praise be

[@Liizardqueen90]

Praise Garth!!!

[@Smoke-by-the-Shadow]

Bless this Stoney Day

[@VRILL-MASTER369.]

[ perfect video to end off the year, R'llohr save us indeed ]

[@ghostdreamer7272]

Couldn’t the Green Men just be isolated humans who took on traditions of the Children after the Pact, and became like one of our modern day uncontacted tribes? Antler/horn head gear and clothes to blend into nature aren’t uncommon either. But I agree they’re very related to the Children, the Others, the old legends like Garth. If they are actually nonhuman… perhaps a twist would be they’re dragon-human hybrids, green/gray-scaled and dragon horns. Some fire to go along with the ice.

[@ghostdreamer7272]

*also, I’m VERY curious what your Narnia takes would be. A very interesting and unexpected combination…

[@Luckystar94199]

A narnia video would be amazing!

[@gentlesavage2068]

Do you think it's possible that in order to get rid of the white walkers or purify the corrupted weirwood trees, that they will have to combine different forms of magic? Especially when you consider that the official name for this series/saga is "a song of ice and fire"

[@DavidLightbringer]

yes - Jon will probably be frozen like Coldhands and could provide the ice

[@ryanabcdef12345]

mom get the camera! davey uploaded!

[@SteamnaPan]

You know... Praise Garth.

[@jenndowden8131]

I'm in the 25th minute of your video. You just mentioned the ice spiders, & I have to tell you- I was listening to a video regarding lore on the Nahanni Valley(?) in the far northern reaches of Canada & there was mention of "spiders the size of grizzlies" or something to that end. It made me think of ASOIAF, & you- so I'd already been dying to bring it to your attention & the instant you mentioned the spiders, it sprang back to mind & I had to tell you. Oh yeah- also, I would adore some Narnia analysis.

[@aislingnifhoghlu6351]

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY F***ING HOLIDAYS BOYS AND GIRLS AND VARIATIONS THERE UPON 🥰

[@aislingnifhoghlu6351]

And damn what a Christmas present it was 👌

[@darksister96]

Deff gonna be praising garth to this video! 👏💚

[@ChellTahs]

I been sayin’ this! David!!!!!! Yay!!

[@Miki-dx4zo]

DROPPED AND IM HERE

[@Seeriosa]

Would actually love to see some Narnia stuff from you, even if just in the form of parallels and inspirations for tsoiaf. GRRM definitely read those books.

[@mattfoulgerBC]

I silently watched this as well as michael talks about stuff’s recent video. I worship the God of Many Streams. Others might throw Shade, but they’re just a faceless hivemind that can’t see the forest for the trees. All the haters are green with envy and better get comfortable in their own skin before I show them the back side of my hand. That’s the spirit. Praise Garth

[@jenniferarmstrong8879]

Been praising Garth so follow me on this one… The white walkers were formed when the tree was set ablaze. The tree was poisoned by frozen fire in the form of a flaming sword/meteor sword/piece of obsidian. This set the tree ablaze, burning out the spirits from within the weirwoods. They are the shadowy spirit babies of the woods, birthed by a silent dead weirwood mother. So the story about the Gray King taunting the Storm God who set a tree ablaze, is about a green man poisoning a weirwood tree to basically produce a shadow baby assassin. Which is to turn a tree into a warrior, a tactic the children used against the Ironborn.

[@jenniferarmstrong8879]

This also parallels the forging of the Storm Lord’s blade in Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn. Ineluki (sp?) poisoned the Witchwood trees with iron, and then use this corrupted wood to forge the blade sorrow. It happened to take 3 attempts. Shout out to GrayArea’s series on these books and ASOIAF.

[@jiggajayflow]

Is Ned cleaning Ice in the Weirwood pond at Winterfell an ancient ritualistic threat to the Others? Like they can see through the face and know there is a badass with a big sword keeping the blood magic corruption alive and therefore behave themselves? Like good old Ned knows to clean his sword specifically there like his ancestors have for millennia. It's clearly a blood sacrifice, but also feels very threatening at the same time

[@joshuahartke1749]

Would love Narnia content!

[@brunopereira6789]

Holy shit that thumbnail is beautiful

[@joseysomemore]

I really need this today.ty❤

[@c-bev9124]

Maybe the blood magic used to create the others from the green man also turned the weirwood trees bark white and the leaves red. It would make sense that if the green man changed to look like the others, then the trees they were connected to also changed as well.

[@eyyitsyaboi]

Just curious, if the white walkers are exiled green men, why did they manifest as Ice demons? Why the element of Ice? Why do they stop communicating with humans and become murderhobos? Why do the others not resemble Cernunnos when Stannis' Shadow baby resembles him? In my headcanon, it makes more sense if the white walkers are shadowbabies of the Night's Queen, and the night's queen serves the great other. The great other and the nights queen serve as counterparts to Rhollor and Melisandre. It would explain what keeps the land of always winter, always winter. You would need a God deciding to adopt the element of ice, the way rhollor adopted the element of fire, and that god would have to use immensely powerful magic to keep an area of a slightly higher latitude than Braavos behaving like the artic. I find it hard to believe that ejecting green men from weirwoods makes them manifest as icy shadow beings, and turned a huge land mass constantly snowy. In terms of what turned the weirwoods white, It's plausible that the others went on a green man killing spree during the first long night and completely wiped out weirwoods and green men from essos. During the second long night, the others killed green men throughout westeros, but did not reach the god's eye which is why the green men and green weirwoods are still preserved in the gods eye. It would also explain why the old gods have a vested interest in destroying the others. If the old gods are green men, then I guess the others are the old gods, but they are also in conflict with the old gods? that doesn't make much sense to me. It would also explain why Rhollor has a vested interest in fighting the others, as the great other is a rival god and I suppose they are fighting for territory.

[@DavidLightbringer]

- why ice demons? because Martin wants to worth with cycle of the seasons nature folklore. it all goes with the idea of a long night / long winter. also its based on Norse folklore of fire and ice giants - stags lose their antlers in the winter - they are the children of NQ, but she is a weirwood woman of some kind. Most of the NQ characters have weirwood associations, like Lyanna, Val, Alys Karstark, Sansa and Cat, etc. She would be the one giving the homeless green man spirits the ice bodies with blood magic at the Nightfort, where there's a huge weirwood organism - the 'great other' is Azor Ahai, who invaded / defiled the wwnet when he killed Nissa Nissa, a cotf (imo)

[@eyyitsyaboi]

@@DavidLightbringer Thanks for the reply, but could you please explain why the land of always winter is always winter? Also does the NQ need the night's king seed if she is simply rehousing exiled green man spirits? Also why are the other's muderhobos when they seem friendly as green men in their past life? is Azor Ahai ordering them to wantonly kill?

[@eyyitsyaboi]

@@DavidLightbringer Also, last question I promise :) If the first long night happened in Essos, as exemplified by the five forts, and as you suggested, the bloodstone emperor causing the long night, and that he is the same person as Azor Ahai, does that mean that Azor Ahai invaded the weirwood net in Essos first? Or did he fly over to Westeros on his Dragon and invade the weirdwood net there, and sent the others by an icy land bridge or something?

[@heathen_mick]

I would honestly love to see some Narnia lore vids

[@mpalfadel2008]

Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

[@nateristowa6899]

i remember martin referencing how he wanted to do a "lord of the rings but with realistic characters" so i often wonder if we can use tolkiens legendarium as something to look for similarities too for a song of ice and fires world building.

[@DavidLightbringer]

oh yes tons of parallels

[@genlob]

Very good, David. Garth Greenhand sounds like a right randy old satyr. (Praise Garth) Irish names can be infuriating. Tuatha de Danaan is pronounced Tua day darnan. Merry Quizmois, fellow myth heads.

[@genlob]

I love that Art Deco sunburst cabinet btw.

[@tonym.8069]

nother thing, the red bloody sap and leaves of weirwoods could represent the physical bodies of these sacred forests while the blue starry eyes and streaks could represent their spiritual bodies. Kinda like in Narnia with drysds being made from flowers and leaves and such of their host trees. But red and blue here not being just fire snd ice, but earth and sky, the female and male.

[@JessSimpson1313]

Regarding "Can you plant a Weirwood Tree?", yes you can. You are also right the roots do have to connect to the rest of the weerwood root system for it to grow. This comes from the chapter discussing that unlike every other castle (I'm guessing not including dorne) the northerns brought a Weirwood Tree to as a gift, the attempts at planting on in the Eyrie always failed, which they dont put much attention to in book but as we the audience know the Eyrie has a solid rock base we are left to wonder if the Weirwoods connect to each other physically, not just magically.

[@DavidLightbringer]

it doesn't say how the attempt was made tho - did they take a cutting from a living weirwood? We've never seen seeds. You can't tear one out of the ground. I'm guessing a cutting... it's interesting that it's not specified

[@JessSimpson1313]

@DavidLightbringer I'd always assumed it was a cutting but hadn't thought much of the mechanics they used, given GRRM was also involved in Elden Ring which has a small mountain of lore around tree maintenance it would be wild if it ended up being important to the story of ASOIAF.

[@ninjalokust]

I would argue as well, that Neds death and the theft and splitting of the stark family sword is also indicative of the problem with the weirwood net. After the sword is used to kill Ned and his blood flows down the blade, it is reforged and stolen by the Lannisters, only its metal is now blood red. Something similar may have happened with the weirwood net, the original "owner" was killed, and the net was stolen and then split in half causing the leaves of those trees to turn blood red.

[@DarthSidian]

Dave just dropped new lore??

[@nateristowa6899]

i cant wait for the nights watch video. that theory makes a lot of sense to me tbh. im kinda wondering if sam didnt even kill the white walker. he just freed the other from some kinda magic, and said other reverts to his original identity, coldhands, and coldhands was a nightsking era nightswatch man who was sacrificed to the weirwoods and turned into an other. or maybe coldhands was just what used to be a "normal" nights watch man, and the watch just stopped doing that over time for whatever reason. i really gotta rewatch the og green man/nightswatch video. it was so freakin good. it makes a lot of sense to me that the greenmen/children of the forest where cooporationg with the original colonists from the great empire of the dawn, when war broke out between the empire and the people (magical and human colonist) of westeros. with sights like the neck / moat cailen / the battle isle being places where the geotd had footholds. and then the others seem to have originateted or split off from the children of the forest and weirwoods and green men around that time.

[@DavidLightbringer]

i think it's possible the walkers can't really be killed, exactly. You can pop one of their bodies but where does the spirit go? If it's a hivemind, it's just costing them the magic power it takes to form a body or whatever. There is no finite number of white walkers, perhaps. i talked about this in the ice spiders video

[@NiennaSerenity]

Dang we're being fed this holiday season

[@NiennaSerenity]

Also side note, I would watch any mythology/lore deep dive of yours but Narnia would be great. Same with the Golden Compass series, which includes a lot of human spirits inside animals

[@theblueidiot5536]

1:50 NARNIA REFERENCE WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@littleyew]

Watchers are the fallen angels, the Nephilim their half-angel/half-human children. Interestingly, like the Green Men (at least in the scrapped Blood Moon pilot) the Watchers were serving as advisors to humankind, teaching them astronomy, metallurgy and other useful skills. Humankind grew corrupt, the Nephilim wrought havoc and the Watchers were imprisoned.."in valleys under the earth." Hmm.

[@serpounce5699]

What do you call the Braavosi assassin's bookkeepers? Faceless bureaucrats.

[@c-bev9124]

Do you think that the weirwood net was once a way that the green men and children could teleport. Maybe they could step into it in one region and instantly step out in another place? I believe there is good forshadowing for this in the prologue when it talks about the way the whites just appear from the trees. Just a thought since we believe all the weirwoods are connected.

[@DavidLightbringer]

i think the Others can do this, yes, check out the ice Spiders vid

[@kaizen9406]

I could praise Garth listening to Narnia Lore . . . 👍

[@hatuletoh]

Nicd pronunciation of Cernunnos with hard C. Seems like no one ever gets that right.

[@Leif_of_Kasper]

I would much rather listen to a LML video about Nania/ aSoIaF vid then actually reading/ watching it

[@gunders85]

So i finished my first ASOIAF read through yesterday. Whats next? Fire & Blood, World of Ice and Fire or just a deep dive into your videos?

[@RolloTonéBrownTown]

GREEN MAN! As a gamer the green bois low key remind me of spriggan from Morrowind

[@DavidLightbringer]

i have a Spriggan art that i use sometimes

[@briennesfatsister4788]

Yes please for Narnia. I love those stories . So the greenmen have hooves and horns? Hmm. Like your new set up, do you have a teleprompter?

[@DavidLightbringer]

no, I glance over to the side and read a sentence or two, then turn to the camera and deliver it, back and forth. The teleprompter look is just too weird I hate it

[@briennesfatsister4788]

Like it. Your delivery is very smooth.

[@LitcheTheArsm]

We’re eating GOOD tonight😋