Lug Nuts - Spline Drive McGard and Gorilla and What and Why Jeep Wrangler

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Let's talk lug nuts! I'll show you what I bought and why... and show you the difference between the McGard and Gorilla splinedrive lug nuts. I also talk about what you need to know to buy aftermarket lug nuts for a Jeep Wrangler.
I found this when searching the McGard... and found it interesting. That piece at the cone is actually a brass washer and it's designed to allow you to tighten things without damaging the rim.
"No one mentioned that they have a built -on tapered washer that actually spins freely until it contacts the rim. At that point it will stop spinning and you torque the lug against the washer INSTEAD of it torqueing and grinding into your rims(after removing to rotate the wheels with regular lugs enough times it will start to grind into the lug well in most cases) . They are made of Stainless steel(no rust and guaranteed for life by McGard) and the Naval Brass washer,these things are plenty strong." forum.miata.ne...
Also... here are the products mention in the video:
McGard 65540BK SplineDrive Chrome/Black (1/2" - 20 Thread Size) Wheel Installation Kit for 5-Lug Wheels
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Gorilla Automotive 21183BC 1/2" Black Tuner Lug Nut, (Pack of 20)
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[@seanmcgovern445]

McGard cone spins to help protect wheel finish when it seats it is designed to not spin. I have also read it help maintain tq specs.

[@42mirv]

I have the Gorilla lug nuts on my JK. After a couple of winter seasons driving though the salt brine we have on our roads they are very rusty, even more so than the original lug nuts (although not as bad as the ones you displayed). I am thinking about switching to McGards for that reason as they claim to be more rust resistant.

[@o3djeeps]

Good to know... I'll definitely be paying attention to the long term condition of these. Maybe it's a good thing I am putting different brands on each Jeep. I can really tell which will rust faster since we will be in the same conditions at the same time!

[@42mirv]

Deinitely. I'm looking forward to following how yours progress.

[@luigirs3]

@@o3djeeps looking forward for a new video to see how they holding off thru all this years

[@JT-sl3ui]

I bought West Coast Wheel Accessories spline chrome lug nuts 14mm x 1.50 and they are of great quality for $40 for set of 24.

[@INFAMOUS-TONY]

Great video! Thank you for showing me the McGard lug nuts. I recently purchased a Jeep JKU and I’m coming from the luxury import world. These McGard lug nuts remind me of my $200 project kics lug nuts I had. The spinning ring at the conical seat are actually protection for your wheel. While the gorilla lugs puts an enormous pressure and scratches the lug holes of the wheels, these McGards will help minimize or prevent major damages to the actual lug holes of expensive wheels. I purchased a set of Fuel D238 2 piece wheels and not many people will spend $100+ on lug nuts; however, I will definitely purchase a set of these once the wheels are installed with the lift kit.

[@o3djeeps]

Awesome! And you are indeed correct. After I posted this video, I learned that conical washer was there for exactly as you describe.... very cool design.

[@mkbmj]

Actually, you could not be more wrong. The wheels have an insert in the mounting hole, and the Gorillas do not scratch the mounting holes, and the "enormous pressure you speak of, is 165lb ft of torque, applied by me, via a torque wrench - the same amount of "enormous pressure" I placed on the McGard lug when I mounted them on an F250. For a Jeep, if you don't buy the spline drive, the cone set lugs do not have the spinning washer. My belief is that the spinning washer exists because (their installation tool is not constructed as well as the one by Gorilla - as noted in the video) the installation tool might strip trying to tighten the lugs to 120 (or more) lb ft. whereas the normal lug nuts would not have an issue attaining proper torque with the normal 6 or 12 point socket.

[@y2kmadd]

Gorilla lock nuts are great. Rotating collars are harder to remove than your usual locking nut.

[@15DurangoRT]

That cone portion of the new lug nuts seems a lot shorter than the factory which would concern me on the seating.

[@cubul32]

How are the McGard holding? I assume you used a breaker or torque bar - since you know about that. Did you have any issues with cracking McGard tool?

[@AmericaFirstx1776x]

Since the spline drive lug nut has a smaller acorn end, does that put you at more of a risk or is it secure

[@JChica3628]

I have a jeep Cherokee sport 2016 4 wheel drive, the lug nuts are swollen. I went to auto parts for 20 price $250.00;I haven’t bought them yet any recommendations.

[@JCx13]

Hey, Great vid…I know it’s 5 yrs old…but looking for an answer to this question. Just got new wheels for my JLUR and as you mentioned in the vid above, some wheels have a smaller lug hole opening (as mine did) so I needed to get spline lug nuts. I ended up going with the gorilla version. I’ve seen some ppl mention that the spline lug nuts along with the aftermarket rims have a different torque spec than the factor lugs/rims… Is this true? I know Jeep (at least the JL asks for 130ft/lbs) but ppl say to torque around 100ft/lbs when using spline. I did 100ft/lbs to install them for the time being. But before I resume my normal daily driving with the new wheels, want to make sure I’m doing proper spec without over or under tightening (yes Im using a torque wrench :)) Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks!

[@jayhernandez6812]

I have 2019 jeep wrangler sport jl what is the right size wheel lock and lug nuts for after market wheels?

[@OscarPerez-uu5tr]

10:54 Assuming; is the word you meant to say. Great video! Thanks for the info

[@Ferda1964]

Thanks for the great presentation on lug nuts, I will be picking up my new Wrangler JL with steel stock rims and I wish to replace the factory nuts with black ones. I am not sure which to get but McGard has a good price for the set on amazon. Would you still recommend the McGard black chrome lug nuts? Thanks.

[@TheVtecdelsol]

You got these mcgard mounted on your wheels?

[@johnnyk617]

My gorillas are very rusty after about a year

[@leonardoreyes8517]

Will these fit a tj

[@o3djeeps]

Yes.

[@stevenmarks5308]

Talks way too much without saying anything. Loose interest

[@toyomatt84]

"Expensive".... Not at $105 they aren't. Look up what a set of Project KICS lug nuts cost. But, you also call "wheels" "rims"... so I digress.

[@JWJauod]

Can you quit smacking your lips every time you start talking again.

[@mkbmj]

Those McGards suck. The metal piece rusts and breaks off, normally stuck inside the wheel.

[@tommymanns1740]

Drug this out way to long