Why Do People HATE Urethane Bowling Balls On House Shots & In League?!

[@acetospace6]

My bf bowls with urethane, but he’s lefty so it doesn’t really affect me. I think people should bowl with whatever is best for their game, like you said they are tools!

[@LuisNapoles]

Agreed!! Just wait till part two when I show you how I personally combat the urethane transition on these same lanes! Gonna be an eye opener for a lot of people!

[@vinny702]

@@LuisNapoles why do* people hate urethane not not why does people hate urethane.....damn man....english isn't this hard

[@tjhartley2599]

@@vinny702 neither is it difficult to be kinder than that. Give it a shot

[@mattgeiger8247]

​@@vinny702sounds like somebody wants to be an English teacher?

[@michaelw_yee]

Great video as always. I love the shape of the pitch black going down the lane. Used to have a fast pitch but found that it was super clean and didn’t come off the pattern as well as the pitch black. Also I think the reason why people hate urethane, or at least the people I’ve encountered at my local house, is because they usually start/stand in the same spot and move left at the same time and have a “routine”. Urethane breaks up their routine and makes them adjust in ways they aren’t comfortable with or aren’t used to

[@LuisNapoles]

Urethane definitely breaks up their routine! Just wait till part two when I show you how I personally combat the urethane transition on these same lanes! Gonna be an eye opener for a lot of people!

[@michaelw_yee]

@@LuisNapoles can’t wait!!!

[@TrandafirRuby]

Went against a team that only threw hammer urethane balls old and new. My only adjustment through 2 full games was move half a step back every 2 frames to kick out the 10 pin. Game 3 was when i started moving left with the same amount of distance back. I use a 3000 grit Phaze 4 as my benchmark ball as a 2 hander. It helped that they were throwing urethane in a good grouping so I was able to play their carry down while each of them were struggling with dealing with each others' carry down. Shot a 736 series that night and missed 3 10 pins cuz wasn't focused.

[@LuisNapoles]

Nice!!!

[@slickytru5]

Good job. You adjusted... I love using urethane but love it more, when a real bowler can adjust to any lane condition.

[@ryanstocking6367]

Before last year I never owned a urethane ball and then wanted to see what the hype was about, specifically about the purple hammer. Last year I bought one and I love it!!! I don't care what people throw, bowling is about making adjustments, not complaining about what other people throw. I love throwing both reactive resin and urethane. When the lanes break down where I dont seem to be able to control the pocket anymore then you can bet I'm getting my purple hammer out of my bag lol. Love the videos!!! 😎😎😎🎳🎳🎳 #NoShameInTheUrethaneGame

[@LuisNapoles]

I agree with you! Just wait till part two when I show you how I personally combat the urethane transition on these same lanes! Gonna be an eye opener for a lot of people!

[@stevehiatt3156]

Great video Luis, looking forward to part 2. I will use urethane if it looks like the best option at the time, especially if I am in a tournament setting (I am scoring for me not my opponent)LOL. In response to the haters, just learn to play inside of the person that is throwing urethane if you want to keep throwing resin...Easy peasy!

[@LuisNapoles]

Part 2 is gonna be a HUGE eye opener for people!! Sunday!

[@scottnimblett7735]

I've got a very long time teammate that throws Urethane 90% of the time. I still carry 210 + avg. I can see when he affects my shot and I move as needed.

[@LuisNapoles]

Smart man!

[@charlesgerlach7059]

awesome you adjust because you know how and he is scoring more because urethane fits his game best

[@TraumaER]

@@charlesgerlach7059 yeah not everyone can adjust. I know I ruined my anchor's average for awhile while using my Pitch Black a couple of years ago.

[@umbra9273]

That's how you can tell a crappy bowler from a good one. When they know when to make an adjustment

[@Frostecy]

@@umbra9273 exactly! They always use the Urethane excuse when in reality they are mad they bowl bad

[@alexanderbreen4010]

Well I’m a lefty so I LOVE urethane… and honestly the fact that so many people hate it makes me want to throw it more lol… didn’t realize the Fast Pitch got discontinued I’m kinda surprised by that… Jesper really liked using the Black and the Fast together

[@LuisNapoles]

It’s pretty silly isn’t it lol

[@tylerwill5250]

Even sitting my black hammer on the rack gets people going before the game even starts, and yea i might throw it, but its a spare ball too 😂

[@jazlarvonsteich]

If you have 8-10 bowlers on a pair, one person throwing urethane is not doing enough damage to affect anyone. The other 7-9 bowlers throwing resin are changing the lanes much more. It's in people's heads. There are two ways to generally attack a house shot throwing urethane. One, play the oil line straight. Two, swing it to the outside/gutter like you would on a short pattern. For the former, you use that line as hold as a reactive player. For the latter, the goal is to get the urethane to the friction early enough to create the proper shape. It's going to be earlier than any reactive breakpoint almost always. So it shouldn't affect anyone throwing resin. People get in their heads and/or don't pay attention. Most of the time, you can actually take advantage of those throwing urethane - especially on a house shot.

[@LuisNapoles]

Agreed!

[@tylerwill5250]

I throw mostly urethane on league nights, resin when i need it. Some bowlers would figure out quickly how to play WITH my urethane. THATS how i could tell the REAL ones from the fakes or posers. Then i come back and bowl pba sport shots with the fakers on posers and whoop their ass with reactive resin lol. Its priceless tbh

[@jaywhey8822]

I use it when it is in play, but you best believe it is always on the rack. A large percentage of people in my league get pissy just seeing it. All of the guys on my team now have a urethane ball for the one night we play a certain team. >:)

[@LuisNapoles]

Oh that’s hilarious! I’d love to be a part of bowling that team! Haha

[@jaywhey8822]

@@LuisNapoles Set it up home boy, we'd welcome a humbling. 😁

[@tylerwill5250]

@jay whey i like you guys already haha

[@ashtinw.4555]

Finally ordered my first jersey using your code on Coolwick! Was hoping they had one for cerebral palsy awareness, but I couldnt find it. Im hoping one day to do something with bowling so I can raise awareness for my little sister! Thanks for all the great content!

[@LuisNapoles]

Hopefully soon they will!! Thanks for the support!

[@farringtonking]

Hey I met you in the elevator in the way to sams town. Never once mentioned how good you were, goes to show how humble you are. Well wishes in your endeavors, quite surprised the KZbin algorithm led me here.

[@LuisNapoles]

I’m glad you found your way here! Thanks for that comment!

[@jkirkerx]

All cover stocks are a polymer base, but reactive resin adds several additional chemicals that’s make the polymer chains longer to creates air pockets or peaks and valley for more traction. ~I’m convinced that straight urethane makes the pattern longer just like reactive resin and is no different. Some balls with surface will shorten the length of the pattern like the Gem, while other balls will push oil right, like a snowboarder pushing snow down the mountain or off to the right creating the same effect that people think urethane is to blame for. I’m not sure if all urethane is the same except for durrmoeter or hardness rating such as 73, perhaps color pigment is the final difference. For those that don’t have urethane and decides to buy one, a word of warning is that it’s straight polymer and is difficult for most to get it to change direction. That’s where the UC3 comes in as an entry level urethane because it’s a hybrid with part reactive polymer. I’ve gone down and examined the pattern after a set to see the results and how much carry down was created, and found no difference. I’ve seen up to 8 feet just with reactive resin balls.

[@LuisNapoles]

All bowling balls start as urethane and then they add plasticizer which makes them reactive

[@donaldexley1852]

started throwing my pink hammer last week in league and it looked awesome for about a game and a half - then followed it with a collision on the same line and scored big with that for about 6 frames. Finished with a pin down obssesion tour peal with almost the same line and it looked great. All said moved about 6 boards left from start to finish and went from urethane - to super strong and finished with more of a control pearl. Very happy with the combo.

[@LuisNapoles]

A ball like that just like the uc3 isn’t gonna cause any more carry down that reactive balls cause of how strong that core is

[@CliftonDon74]

11/12/2023 - Hey Luis. Just watching this video again. This is some good stuff. My Pitch Black is the most versatile ball in my bag. I use it on the fresh to create downlane hold for my Phaze 2, on the burn when the lanes get weird, and I use it for my spares. Urethang on everythang!

[@LuisNapoles]

That’s a SMART idea!

[@toddfreeman4725]

I was worried everyone in my league would throw a fit if I threw urethane. Finally said screw it and bought a pb for the first time never through urethane before and ripped off a 730 series with one of the games almost becoming my first 300. The house we bowl at has so much hook on the back of the lanes that being a two hander with reactive makes the house shot feel like a sport shot. Going to keep throwing the PB from now on at this house.

[@LuisNapoles]

NICE! I hope to hear about a 300 here soon!

[@nordattack]

Totally cool video. Did not see much issue with either ball on house. My highest games have been shot with urethane on house. I have won tournaments on house with urethane. The carrydown a low flare urethane ball produces on a house shot is very small and easy to adjust around. By comparison, I bowl in a sport league and when all of us are throwing urethane on a high volume short pattern look out! Now that is carrydown! If the house shot bowlers who bitch about carrydown caused by one guy throwing urethane experienced what we see on Wolf when 'everyone' is throwing urethane, they would realize the house shot is totally fine even with urethane going up the lane.

[@LuisNapoles]

Wait till part 2 !!

[@Greatlefty300]

Awesome explanation. Just showed this video to the school team and very easy to understand...

[@LuisNapoles]

Oh good! Glad I could help!!

[@feddyvonwigglestein3481]

Completely agree with adjusting to the carrydown. The entire point of the sport is adjusting to changing lane conditions. Complaining about carrydown, which is just one of many potential adjustments just like reactive balls sucking up all the oil, is actual stupidity.

[@LuisNapoles]

Wait till I open everyone’s eyes in part 2 on Sunday!!

[@scottseiler5577]

Good video, a lot of questions in our league about it! I compare it to high handicap plastics. You are going to have to adjust. No adjustment is cause for demise.

[@LuisNapoles]

Agreed!

[@stompingpeak2043]

The straight bowling teams seem to mess the lanes up the most for me. If you bowl against them the lanes may be really tore up very quick. Idk why this happens but the carrydown of the straight inconsistent bowlers can really make life difficult

[@Swamprowdy]

Going up the lane like you are doing, I don't see any problem throwing resin looping the ball around yorur early breakpoint. The problem I have sometimes is a cranker throwing urethane out to like 5 board at the breakpoint, then pushing some oil up the lane in the track area. It gets tricky then with midlane control. Good vid. I have a Fast Pitch which I primarily use for 10 pins. Had to throw it this past weekend in the Assn. tournament up 5 board because the crappy lane machine did'nt strip the 50 ft challenge condition that the pro shops machine put out for the junior league. Pro shop uses Fire and Ice, the houses uses cheap junk. Nova and Phaze 2 went straight no matter where I threw them. Fast Pitch actually was impressive up 3-4-5 board. BTW, a lot of pissed off bowlers on the 4 pairs with the 50 ft "ghost" pattern; much controversy.

[@LuisNapoles]

Check the following video when I threw Reactive after the urethane

[@masonrobinson4337]

REALLY looking forward to part II - great video!

[@LuisNapoles]

Coming on Sunday!! Gonna be an eye opener for a lot of people!

[@stellaraudioaz]

MOTIV Purple Tank is a monster. Love that ball on short patterns. Especially being a lefty. Gotta create that line.

[@LuisNapoles]

It was okay

[@TheRagingRayn]

I have to throw Urethane in warmups (and sometimes game 1) for my Monday night league. Whatever shot they put out has a really dry backend, and your ball doesn't want to continue. After a little carry down, it becomes a nice shot.

[@LuisNapoles]

Smart!!!

[@LOGICNREALITY]

All these years I though urethane absorbed , I didn't even know there was a thing called carry down,.. that explains why I do better during league by moving up closer or backward , instead of left and right .

[@LuisNapoles]

I’m glad I could help then!

[@donhughes9743]

I scored a 684 series recently with my PB. It's fast becoming my favorite ball.

[@LuisNapoles]

Nice!!!

[@32rekt62]

Would've been so much better if you threw your reactive resin a few shots and THEN threw the Urethane to beat up the lane and THEN go back to reactive resin so we could then see the difference in how your reactive resin reads the lane AFTER the fact of the urethane balls going down the lane.

[@LuisNapoles]

I’ve shot so many videos on the fresh house shot there at sams I didn’t think to do that here. Part two comes tomorrow though!

[@tylerwill5250]

My go to fav is my black hammer. I do throw a purple honey badger and have thrown my highest games with that ball.

[@tylerwill5250]

My house is a high friction house too, and being rev dominant one hander, i tend to throw it, Until i see i need resin.

[@tylerwill5250]

And even when practicing, by myself, throwing only urethane, i always have to move left, never right. I can count on one hand how mnay times ive had to move right in league or practice in my house.(after im lined up of course)

[@LuisNapoles]

I like that Badger purple

[@tylerwill5250]

Well me too haha. But it likes the oil and is very straight whereas my hammer is round and continuous.

[@jefferydaniels6717]

I actually don't mind it on more competitive stuff as it does give hold. Go get 4 2 handers and put them on a blocked house shot where outside of 10 will hook to the 7 pin no matter what you throw then try to adjust from there and you'll start to see why some people don't want to see it.

[@LuisNapoles]

I mean you’re talking about a very specific situation

[@jefferydaniels6717]

@@LuisNapoles but, with the visibility of 2h and the hype around urethane it's becoming much more common. They don't even need to be 2h as the kids are learning how to throw the higher revs.

[@tylerwill5250]

Thats what people do after u get your base skill set down. You work on revs. This started 20 years ago in youth leagues. Im a one hander thats rev dominant

[@leegreenontheair2285]

I love my urethane balls (Black Widow Urethane solid, Purple Hammer) I can create just enough shape and helps me to go to something stronger like my Obsession or my 3-D Offset to combat the carry down

[@LuisNapoles]

Smart man!

[@freeekychiiild4765]

Great content!! Have been waiting for a video like this. I grew up using urathane (fab nail, wine u dot)and plastic ( yellow dot) I've watched guys throw a fit and ask me not to throw urethane on house shot. I throw what works!!!

[@LuisNapoles]

Just wait till part two when I show you how I personally combat the urethane transition on these same lanes! Gonna be an eye opener for a lot of people!

[@FoSheezzzie]

I just bought a Purple Hammer about a week ago and it has made a massive difference in my game. I honestly don't care if other people like it or hate it. If it's legal, I'll use it as I like.

[@LuisNapoles]

😂😂😂

[@mikealexander7414]

These videos are really helpful. Good job

[@LuisNapoles]

Glad you think so!

[@angrywally4087]

Me and a few bowlers used Urethane on a house shot in league and Some people got angry because of the carry down, I used the Red hammer and it flared more than the Purple hammer and Pitch black and caused less carry down, thats why people hate Urethane on Monday League night, and I know how to Combat Urethane on a House shot.

[@LuisNapoles]

People dont understand that the big flaring urethane balls cause almost zero carry down if you wipe the oil off the ball

[@mattgeiger8247]

I've heard the same thing from people complaining about plastic, just throw whatever works for you

[@drakedbz]

The only urethane ball I've ever thrown is my ancient Burgundy Hammer (was my dad's originally). It has zero flare, and probably over a thousand games on it, so the thing is super consistent, and predictable. I know exactly how that ball is going to react to the lane conditions. It's not always the shape I want, as it leaves a lot of 10-pins, but I've had it as a fallback when needed.

[@LuisNapoles]

Oh wow!! I’d love to see that!

[@marioc.6767]

Urethane doesn’t typically bother me even though I don’t really see the point of it on a house shot, but that’s just me. What does get a little irritating is when the people that throw urethane spray it everywhere never hitting pocket and making the backends tight everywhere, not just the break point. But I know those will just be lower scoring nights. Everyone should be able to throw what they want. I definitely see the use for it on sport to try and break the lanes down in an advantageous way while controlling pocket

[@LuisNapoles]

Ehh I would agree except I don’t like when people spray reactive either 😂😂

[@TobiasBoonBackwards]

I bowl on a league where they do birthday parties before and don’t oil the lanes before my league. I’ve shot as high as 300 and as low as 130. Every week is different depending on ho many plastic balls get thrown down the lane and where the carry down is. Last week was a struggle averaging 178 and the week before I averaged 231.

[@LuisNapoles]

Why do you bowl that league then? The leagues should be paying for fresh oil every single week!!!!

[@TobiasBoonBackwards]

@@LuisNapoles because it’s a adult youth league and I get to bowl with my kid and teach him.

[@Igloo3471]

Bowlmor shithole?

[@xBboyChinox]

Im using the HOTCELL and its not too bad. I do want a pitch black in my arsenal.

[@LuisNapoles]

Hot cell won’t cause much carry down because of how much it flares

[@thatloudCG5]

Revisiting this 90 days later (and for comment number 300 😂😂😂). Attack Zone is now HIGHLY usable at Victory Lanes (site of 2019 US Open) after throwing it there last Friday and I don't recommend it for where I bowled league. Fast Pitch...I need another one. We already know how this discussion ends LOL. Also, I threw it against someone in our league who is known as "the bootleg Norm Duke" since he kinda looks like him and throws it the same way but significantly less rev rate than Norm. It got to the point where since he was left of me with a Proton PhysiX and I'm throwing my Fast Pitch that he yelled, "MY BALL ISN'T HOOKING!!!" I just looked over at my friend/teammate on the bench like, 😁😁😁😁 (insert Kronk meme here) "OH YEAH... IT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER." 😂😂😂😂😂

[@LuisNapoles]

😂 I love this LO L

[@sspwang8013]

Tbh, I kinda find that people who uses urethane helps me especially on house shots. Pushing oil down lanes helps to blend out the burnt out spots, at least for my case.

[@LuisNapoles]

Agreed!

[@hersheljones9467]

Love the video I’ll use urethane on house if it’s necessary I’ll try reactive first and if I don’t like the look I’m getting what grit were the fast pitch n pitch black at for the video

[@LuisNapoles]

1000 on each I think

[@stevothegreat]

Same here , I normally start off with reactive ball first and if it don`t work well , then i would switch over to purple fast pitch.

[@traviskirk3834]

With me I have a web tour solid with the pin 1inch off of my dad's pap( all 3 are his old ones) tight rings like a urethane ball , the black hammer that was released in the USA by ebonite international when the purple was out , and the over seas version of the black hammer the magenta urethane hammer.

[@LuisNapoles]

Interesting

[@chrisgandy2395]

I throw a purple hammer and sometimes it’s great sometimes it’s awful I would like to throw my ball like you do your timing is different than mine and you look more in control do you give lessons?

[@LuisNapoles]

I don’t give formal lessons but I do have a Patreon where I offer lots of tips

[@ryanmurphy8895]

Luis, can you explain what to look for on a lane that would say "try urethane." I

[@LuisNapoles]

Sure! On a pattern that’s pretty flat with lots of friction to the outside

[@michaelwalters2958]

Hey what’s up everyone here is the truth about urethane balls in a nutshell, urethane does not absorb oil it transposes it down lane from its surface, this varies according to which urethane ball is used they all flare and roll differently, and we as bowlers have different types of rolls, so the amount of oil placed down lane will vary greatly and all of this is based on flare, repeated shots, and number one Rev rate…… if a stroker rolls a urethane ball up the lane he is more likely to give the lanes what Luis has replicated in this great video,,,,High Rev bowlers are a different animal altogether The lanes will become head banger burnt and drastic moves left become the only answer to get passed what’s going on or is it???? Move left into head oil but wait now your ball has skid but then never stops skidding its lazy or if you find a hook spot its jerky off the spot or drastically different from pair to pair. My personal opinion is this,, All bowling equipment does this to an extent, urethane does place more oil down lane than most of the reactive balls made today,,, so lane transitions can be easily navigated by moving left with feet and target,, allowing for a bowler to remain consistent with carry,,, but that’s why the sport is called bowling not striking,,, an individual must overcome the obstacles in order to become the better bowler of the day….So shut your damn traps and man up and figure it out…..

[@LuisNapoles]

Thanks for this great comment but What I will say is that a low flaring reactive ball will cause more carry down than a high flaring urethane ball because of where the oil rings are. The reactive balls aren't absorbing oil into the cover as fats as we are throwing the ball

[@christopherknuckles1]

If your consistent with urethane it can produce hold. The problem is your 150 -170 average bowlers using urethane is spraying the lane with it and creating a puddling across multiple boards at the break point and that screws your more novice bowlers. When it's a team scoring event. Try telling your 130 to 170 avg. Bowlers to "adjust". The average bowlers don't understand whats going on with urethane and carry down. Your 200+ average people can probably figure it out. But if your league team is one 200+ and more 150 average bowlers they will have a major disadvantage because you can't teach experience and touch and speed control in three games. Especially to someone who doesn't know there is 39 boards across the lane.

[@LuisNapoles]

These lower average bowlers you’re referring to will do more damage with reactive

[@umbra9273]

Most bowlers in league don't understand carry down anyway. At least in my league. Their answer is to keep the same line and switch balls. Never really works for them. Anyway, league is for fun and those bowlers you speak of are gaining some experience. Best to be patient with them and focus on your game. Remember they look at you in awe as a God of the lanes when compared to them. Been my experience anyway

[@BillyDaGoat1017]

So if reactive isn’t giving the look you want can you use urethane to help manipulate the lanes for the reactive to work later?

[@LuisNapoles]

Bowling balls are tools. So we gotta use these tools at the right time

[@thatloudCG5]

I'm still anti (modern) urethane but my Fast Pitch will say otherwise. I see another lefty on the pair who's NOT on our team, it becomes the defensive/🖕 play to throw it and shoot 240 or better while they struggle. I just drilled an old school Brunswick Attack Zone urethane from 99 and it's my preferred type of urethane: split boards and shut the lane down. The only downside is I can't get more than 215 or so with it so Fast Pitch it is. Lol.

[@LuisNapoles]

Fast pitch is MONEY

[@rleriche5044]

Reactive do absorb oil but it takes more than the 025 of a second it spends in the friction. It's more to do with the lack of flair imo. Would like to see a more scientific test of this.

[@Jake61Haight]

What layout do you use on you Pitch Black? high flare? low flare? strong weak? I low that shape!

[@LuisNapoles]

The pitch black in the video is 45x3 3/8x15

[@Jake61Haight]

@@LuisNapoles thank you!

[@squeezeprod]

even though i dont throw it much, i still enjoy throwing my Storm Thunderflash \m/

[@LuisNapoles]

I heard that was so good !!!!

[@Bowling_Bros]

Hey Luis! Could you do another live stream again where you just answer our questions? Last time you did it I bought two bowling balls because of it

[@LuisNapoles]

That’ll definitely be coming up!!

[@TInanatos]

Your shot looks a ton better since my last comment, you still look like you're going to fall, but you're not stopping and wasting a ton of momentum

[@LuisNapoles]

ALWYAS a work in progress!!

[@JLH_LetsPlay]

I know the Pitch Purple isn't 100% urethane but what are your thoughts on this ball? I'd love to see you make a video about it. Thanks for doing what you do.

[@LuisNapoles]

I WISH I had a pitch purple to review =(

[@UhKimboze]

Perfect! Now I have a great video to send to urethane haters.

[@LuisNapoles]

Just wait till part two when I show you how I personally combat the urethane transition on these same lanes! Gonna be an eye opener for a lot of people!

[@johnyarbrough9280]

Which bowling balls company is better storm or hammer bowling balls

[@LuisNapoles]

I’m partial to Storm

[@jameschionis8109]

I'm tired of every house shot being high friction these days, so I'll either use urethane from the start, or use it in practice to intentionally carry down some oil. We'll see.

[@LuisNapoles]

I dont hate that Strat LOL

[@nothumbbowler1802]

Used Fast Pitch last night in league. Didn't bowl great. Someone on other team bowled a game nearly 90 pins under avg. At least we won the game.

[@LuisNapoles]

Winning cures all!

[@nothumbbowler1802]

​@@LuisNapoles Some people, when they see urethane, will just defeat themselves.

[@johnyarbrough9280]

What I am seeing from from pitch black I would bow with it

[@LuisNapoles]

It’s very good in the right situations!

[@richciruelas8336]

I don’t hate urethane. Used Natural for a long time then switched to Pitch Black.

[@LuisNapoles]

Nice!!

[@machinethesun9243]

Some of the problem with urethane is when not very good bowlers throw it. A guy in my league stands next to the left gutter and tries to slow hook it around the lane while missing his target 98% of the time. So its like playing chess with someone who keeps throwing the pieces on the floor when its his turn.

[@TInanatos]

Yeah but that's like complaining about someone throwing straight with a plastic

[@machinethesun9243]

Not exactly, at least with straight bowlers throwing down the middle, I can play around them. The guy I'm talking about wants to be Belmo but he has very little skill, so his ball travels a different path every time he tosses it. So he's trashing the lane for anyone playing from the far right to the far left and he rarely gets a strike or makes his spares. And I'm not even sure urethane makes sense on a 44 oily house shot.

[@LuisNapoles]

Ehhh the issue I see here is that you’re mad at the urethane ball. I wouldn’t wanna have that same situation with reactive balls either!

[@lesgrosshans2266]

Butt at least you have a great excuse.

[@TessNMM]

Hot cell hits hard!

[@LuisNapoles]

Yea it did

[@chrisleeleslie]

Could you talk them into letting you show the carry down accumulation after rolling urethane for a few games like just how the dry boards look before and after?

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

Check out inside bowling they have a video on that exact thing

[@LuisNapoles]

That’s something I can definitely work into some future videos!

[@ilove2wheels44]

Hey Luis I don’t think you can throw it because your signed but I just got the new hammer black widow pink and it’s amazing gets off the spot a lot fast that the pitch black and purple. I would love to see you review that ball if you can.

[@LuisNapoles]

So I can’t but it does look good! Pretty color

[@chrisfentress13]

Most bowling balls push oil down Lane. If you get your ball and see a big ring of oil on it and throw it again without wiping it down chances are you still pushing oil down the lane. Like Pete Weber never wipes his ball off and it has oil on top of oil on it

[@LuisNapoles]

He didn’t used to wipe the oil off. Last show he was on he definitely wiped his ball

[@DrZombified]

I think my only complaint is when people spray urethane all over the lane at my league. I don't mind it overall I personally can't throw one do to my extreme low rev unless I throw mine straight up 2 board.

[@LuisNapoles]

It’s no different than when people spray reactive

[@DrZombified]

@@LuisNapoles fair at least reactive absorbs some

[@tylerwill5250]

@dr zombiefied atleast urethane doesn’t absorb oil.

[@tmilwaukee]

I'm a 71 year old lifetime league bowler that used to average 200. I now throw a Pitch Black because I know I can hit somewhere near the pocket. I do leave a lot of corner pins on pocket hits. My ball speed is currently only around 13mph. Is there a ball that would give me better carry at this age???

[@LuisNapoles]

So the age doesn’t really matter it’s all about the ball speed. What I suggest is take a weaker bowling balls like a 900 Global Burner Solid and drilling with a short pin layout (your pro shop will know what that is) you’ll get a similar motion just a little more pop down lane

[@train5974]

I bowled 278 269 and a 258 with an Ebonite magnum urethane. From 1999!

[@LuisNapoles]

Sweet!

[@lfish21.]

Need more brands to come out with balls like motiv did with the microcell on tanks. Gives more people urethane look without the issues urethane can cause on a shot. OR people should drill short pin solid balls. Much better for a shot and they roll great. I have seen enough times from where a guys chucking urethane all over the lane and then peoples balls about halfway through game 2 cant get a ball back to the headpin. Makes for a fun league night.

[@LuisNapoles]

Micro cell is GREAT until you actually need urethane then it’s not even close. Micro cell and short pin reactive will just never give you the look of urethane

[@pappyb2073]

Great vid. If your looking for a real challenge, try a league where 90% are throwing plastic (assuming urethane and plastic produce the same nasty transition). After 10 minutes of practice, the lanes are already transitioning. If your ball is making a double move (wiggle), you are in hell.

[@LuisNapoles]

oh not thanks! haha

[@anthonyrubin9283]

Two weeks ago shot 279 in league with my Pitch Black

[@LuisNapoles]

NICE!!!!

[@Anders-B]

i've gone up to a 220 average in my leagues since I stopped trying to be a people pleaser. All my team mates have learnt to play around my urethane and actually use it to get hold when needed. Using a Purple Hammer and Fast Pitch (my Pitch Black has a separated core but loved that ball)

[@ACHOPRODUCTIONS1]

A true example to how to ajust to carry down would be to make a video with fresh oil and make a video after league play on the same pair that way you can get an idea of what carry down really is. You can’t just base it off of 20 shots.

[@LuisNapoles]

I can only bowl on what they put out LOL

[@ACHOPRODUCTIONS1]

Exactly, and I am assuming you have a good relationship with the bowling alley to let you bowl afterwards on a pair that has had a league play session on it. I just think it would be good content to get the before on a the pair and the after. And I know I’m being naive thinking it will be the a true test because all the factors, and I know a house isn’t going to allow you bowl on a fresh pattern right before league play, but it would be a better judgement having many different shots breaking a lane down then just a few shot on a single line. BTW. I love your content!! Stay awesome!!

[@maui_momoa678]

People been actin like ima bad guy cuz I throw urethane so I became the villain and throw my Black Widow purple hammer for my strike ball and my pitch black for my spare ball now and tell them that sounds like a you problem 😂🤝

[@LuisNapoles]

Lmao!!!!

[@kg3769]

if you had walked down the isle to the left of the lane you could probably have seen the oil carry-down on the backends.

[@LuisNapoles]

100% you’re right. Just wait till part two when I show you how I personally combat the urethane transition on these same lanes! It’s gonna be an eye opener

[@topthrilldragster20]

few weeks ago my teammate was using a urethane. he actually created hold for me. if people get mad at others using urethane it means they cannot adjust to it.

[@THEKOBE7612]

it means they are cry babies

[@LuisNapoles]

Just wait till part 2 when I show you how much hold this video session created for me lol

[@tylerwill5250]

Its either one of two things when people get pissy about urethane. One- they cant alter their release or game enough to throw it. Two- they dont know how to adjust and play with it.

[@sirvenomik]

havent sued urethane in ages. i just dont have a use for it currently im sure it would be smart to grab one but currently not something i would use alot

[@LuisNapoles]

Try it on some patterns!

[@sirvenomik]

well i suppose i should say i dont even have a urethane ball either

[@umbra9273]

@@sirvenomik I'm confident you know a guy that can score you one lol

[@sirvenomik]

@@umbra9273 yeah def just have to order one from the pro shop lol

[@Darthyankee13]

I throw a Storm Mix, Pitch Black, and Fever Pitch. I only throw Urethane and I won't go back lol.

[@LuisNapoles]

I like it!

[@barkanellichasingdreams4142]

I have bowled for 30 years and even been a national coach. The urethane makes me think bowling is broken! I have trained so hard and then playing tournaments/championships where you come behind someone with urethane. Its like a war zone and the twohanded players will make havoc of the lanes. Its like luck or unlucky which people you come behind. I can repeat shots better than many, change release and just urethane makes me wanna run oposite direction to Bowling. Bowling will never be an Olympic sport like it is run now. Even the professionals use urethan as a crutch and its so boring to watch. Not interested in urethane! Bowling is on the decline…cause bowling isnt showing us who really is the best.

[@LuisNapoles]

I couldn’t agree less with what you’re saying. The object of bowling is to throw strikes PERIOD and it someone thinks urethane is the way to do it then what’s the problem? You saying what you’re saying makes me believe you’re not as good as you’re saying and/or not as good a coach as you’re saying

[@barkanellichasingdreams4142]

@@LuisNapoles Well. I think ita boring to watch bowling. I am not impressed with pros playing Witherspoon urethane. People that dont know about bowling would never watch it. Its way to complicated for a viewer to really understand what its going on. It ia Just a tool to make the lanes more difficult for your oponents. Its a game where hig rev players also will see more shape with a urethane compared to like you with less revs. You will get harder to compete with this envoriment compared to before 2010 whem pitch black came out. I have a flobowling subscription andre live in europe. I dont know when things are one cause your evolve around USA. No times for different time zones around the world. You cant get to watch the player you want and get visual scoring tabels for top 10 players. Bowling is boring to watch when you watch a vil tournamemt without knowing much about anything. You Just randomly watch without knowikng Who is leading most of the time. Man bowling is so far behind and making the sport easier to watch would make more watch it. More sponsors and more buzz around it as a sport. You Just go run urethan 70% of the time and see how likely bowling will be an olympic sport. It Just isnt working!

[@barkanellichasingdreams4142]

@@LuisNapoles Well bowling is small. Nobody in Europe are living of bowling cause it is not an Olympic sport. If the sport was Olympic sport we would automatically have funding to be the best possible. There would be 10-15 professional players living in USA. The road to being an Olympic sport is making it easier to understand. Urethan is oppsite direction! Then if you have a tournament with 40 lanes you have to have 20 cameras and put in the Code to follow Belmo the whole squad. The score for who is leading will come up and you understand who is playing well. So maybe you change from Belmo to Tommy Jones. Understanding who does What is important when you have so much going on at the same time during qualifying. The abillity to give the viewer the whole picture without having to browse 3-5 different webside to look for it. Then the different times ones is showed in flobowling and so it is given so people from the whole world will understand. Am and pm isnt normal everywhere. Everything does not revolve around usa, but you always talk about the best in the world. No the best asian players are not there. The europeens mostly are not there. The sport isnt exactly What you think it is. My country have had players that could dominate im the PBA but it is exspensive without funding to do so. Make the sport more easy to understand, and also more open to What exactly is done with the oilprofiles. What the goal was and what a actually happend. The lanemen need to have a bigger role since they affect the game so much. Bowling is making it silent and so many players talk shit about things they are not happy about. 😅 Transparency 🥸 I dont know which day the next tournament is, when the finals is and what times it will play. Why does that have to be so difficult ? Information is king😎 Bowling dont want you to know when things are broadcasted Even with a flobowling subscription. Peace out!

[@barkanellichasingdreams4142]

​@@LuisNapoles Well PBA made the right choice and vall manufacturers want to sell more ths Just urethane.

[@Kawboy65]

I think that most league bowlers wouldn't even know any different if it weren't for watching youtube videos, or hearing other people complain about urethane every week.

[@LuisNapoles]

You think so???

[@jakester4022]

I dont understand why anyone would use urethane on a house shot unless it was on a second shift where they didn't oil the lanes. After bowling I walk down the first lane and look at the end of the oil pattern. You can see where the oil carries down RIGHT INTO THE PIN DECK. SOMETIMES, WE SEE 10 PINS OR 7 PINS SLIDE OVER TO THE 5 PIN SPOT. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE HATE URETHANE AND PLASTIC ON HOUSE SHOTS.

[@LuisNapoles]

Urethane is not good for second shift leagues. Urethane is designed to be used on the fresh because of the strength levels of the covers

[@shaneconnelly9594]

Do this on Brunswick lane surfaces it’ll be totally different

[@LuisNapoles]

The point of this video is made regardless of what lane surface lol

[@shaneconnelly9594]

@@LuisNapoles but the results will be completely different urathane is more favorable on amf surfaces that I see. Especially on Brunswick surfaces with ice oil

[@johnyarbrough9280]

I trust you a lot you recommend me a very good bowling ball twice that's I would like your opinion my friend

[@LuisNapoles]

Thank you!!!

[@jakester4022]

You say you can't miss right etc..etc... so why would you use it... unless it was burnt

[@LuisNapoles]

Use whatever you think you need to use to strike period

[@iwilrage]

It doesnt bother anyone...doesny matter. KZbinrs are the ones who created the hate for them ...they are crazy popular

[@LuisNapoles]

pay more attention then LOL

[@stompingpeak2043]

I don't hate it but most house bowlers don't need to throw urethane. Their rev rate is typically low with high speed and urethane hinders them more than it helps. Where reactive balls will give them more angle and stored energy when it hits the pocket. It always makes me laugh when these people use urethane and they constantly complain about 9 counts. When the urethane ball is usually the cause of their 10, 8, 9, and 7 pin woe. The only bad thing about urethane is when people don't wipe the ball. If you clean the ball before each shot then it's all good. I typically use urethane if I'm getting too much hook on house. It could be late or game one but the weak ball helps me stay away from standing in the left gutter. Sometimes I'll still be standing with my right foot on 30 but it'll hit the pocket. So I can create alot of carry down through the dump 10 bowlers since I hook urethane more than usual. People do hate me doing this but idgaf lol

[@LuisNapoles]

It’s all about using the right tools for the right job!

[@tylerhernandez5207]

I like on how the UC3 is always brought up as Urethane, even tho it's mostly reactive. More urethane than reactive balls, but not like a pure urethane

[@LuisNapoles]

Hot take here. There’s no “pure” urethane out there

[@tylerhernandez5207]

@@LuisNapoles right, but the UC3 has less urethane than the Pitch Black and the Fast Pitch

[@treads2595]

Luis, is the point of the video place card to annoy English teachers? LOL

[@LuisNapoles]

Lmao!! I noticed the grammatical error too late to have my guy change the thumbnail lol

[@senivideoaku283]

How about blue tank by motiv?they hate too?

[@LuisNapoles]

No idea 🤷

[@Icemanx1791]

Urethane is not necessary on house shots. House shots already have built in hold and hook right. A pso can recommend a ball to combat house shots with a lot of friction but urethane should not be one of them. There are enough balls on the market with lower diffs that can get through the front part of the lane and use the built in hold left without overreacting.

[@umbra9273]

Negative. Use what you want. Everyone else doesn't matter.

[@Icemanx1791]

@@umbra9273 I mean sure. I can use the wrong ball any time and lose pins to the rest of the field. But I rather use the right ball and keep up with the scoring pace.

[@LuisNapoles]

My whole thing here is that people should be able to throw whatever they want whenever they want to lol

[@umbra9273]

@@Icemanx1791 but wrong for you is right for others. That's kind of where your logic falters. I like the reliability of the urethane. I rarely have the worst leaves when throwing urethane. No one's preference is wrong buddy.

[@Icemanx1791]

@@umbra9273 my logic was pretty good in my initial comment. There are better options to score with and even some that won’t leave tough spares or splits. Urethane is the wrong option when you already have built in hook right and hold left. I cannot recommend urethane as the best option for a typical league pattern to anyone.

[@angrywally4087]

I love Urethane I use it rarely at league because sometimes the oil machine doesn't oil the Lanes properly. I have a pitch black and I got purple Hammer to create shape I am looking to get the Uc3

[@LuisNapoles]

Uc3 is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ToolingExpert]

You say that it should not be about urethane effects but about ball shape. Well a skilled bowler should be able to create shape with the many reactive resin balls made so popular by ball manufacturers now hawking these resurrected, flippy Frankenstein urethanes to such more dollars from less skilled hands. I say then allow "soakers" and let the Spectre stay since no rules apply evenly.

[@umbra9273]

You can't adjust correctly can you?

[@LuisNapoles]

There still have to be some rules

[@umbra9273]

I bowled with aj Chapman, ciminelli. And a guy with longer last name than mine in the pro am on Tuesday. It was a house shot and they all used urethane. The pros used urethane. I used a pride. I adjusted and used urethane track to hold my line. And 2 of them hooked most of the lane.

[@ToolingExpert]

@@umbra9273 yes, l have to since urethane sprayers, pro or not don't or can't. I feel the "toolbox" has all it needs to do the job without this revived fad.

[@umbra9273]

@@ToolingExpert not really a fad, more like the original recipe lol. I prefer the original because of the results are consistent for me.

[@hongkha601]

I throw urethane not because I got a good look. I throw urethane to mess up the lane..

[@LuisNapoles]

Defensive bowling I like it haha

[@umbra9273]

Admit it, you chuckle when they throw a gutter ball due to your shenanigans. I know I do

[@whoahdudeman]

Purple Hammer! The official ball of Barney the Dinosaur.

[@LuisNapoles]

😂💀😂

[@mackhudson7351]

Like Reactive resin and plastic balls going across lane for 10 pins don't cause carry down!!!! Sure. My PSO told a group of us at league the other day that Reactive Resin balls don't carry oil down. I was just speechless!!!!. How could someone who makes a living advising people on bowling choices be so clueless. What a tool. But that is the popular opinion, and probably why urethane gets a bad rap. Long live my UC3!!!!

[@LuisNapoles]

The sad truth here is that there’s A LOT A LOT of people like that around!

[@willaim2462]

Years later and thumbnail still said “why does people..”

[@LuisNapoles]

Click bait worked 😂

[@willaim2462]

@@LuisNapoles man I was way too high reading that, Ty for the brain teaser

[@daviddixon6408]

The lanes have to be sparking a lot to use urethane on a house shot. I would rather go to a low end reactive like a Hustle or Electrify. Just don't get the same carry with urethane. A friend of mine always starts whining when people use urethane. He is not comfortable moving right and playing up the lane. When urethane is in play he stands too far left and then whines when his ball fizzles out on its way into the pocket. 😅

[@LuisNapoles]

99% of the time reactive is the way to go on house!

[@sspwang8013]

Agree! I rather use a pin down Rotogrip uproar instead of a urethane. More kick!

[@Perry2186]

Sounds like right handers problems to me

[@LuisNapoles]

😂😂

[@TrandafirRuby]

Cuz people don't want to play around it, yet they are willing to play around dry/burn :/

[@LuisNapoles]

I’m saying!!!!!

[@steveboone1498]

@@LuisNapoles I prefer using urethane rather than the hybrid bowling balls and playing down and in. The only time I will use a hybrid bowling ball is if the lanes are so heavily oiled that your ball doesn't move a board no matter how slow you throw it.

[@remoevans7847]

It doesn’t bother me if people want to roll urethane on a house shot. It doesn’t make sense to me, but these are the often the same folks upset when they don’t strike on the Brooklyn side 🙄

[@LuisNapoles]

Ehhh bowling balls are tools