PROBLEM SOLVED: How to Mill a “Banana” log!

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[@lumbercapitallogyard]

Addressing many of the comments here, y'all realize it's Pine right? Not applicable for many of your suggestions. But we appreciate your efforts😊

[@SawmillerSmith]

Hope you don't get upset with me always saying your the cutest thing I ever did see. Now carry on about the banana logs.

[@ulisirius9027]

New video from Luna the pantera.kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5KtophmoLmgntE

[@mrwaterschoot5617]

as a yoke where did you get your banana log? the trumpster banana republic of new york city in trump tower village of the funky flying monkees from the wizard of oz (oddballs and other crazy stuff) (fyi chittenango ny state is the hometown of frank baum sr. the author of the wizard of oz (1939) and his junior is a director of movie classic of the wizard of oz (1949) and in their memory is a yellow brick side walk and i think it is main street ny state route 5. and on one end is/was sun Chevrolet where you can buy wheels used or new. gas or diesel or sun powered electric. i do not know if they have horses of that different color (green in kodachrome) i got to go. otherwise i will be late for a very important date. i owe i owe its off to paint i go. more later

[@waynebrasher]

As L

[@shanefairbank8915]

New to the channel, this is interesting. I have a million questions, but they'll likely be answered by watching your videos. God bless be safe.

[@garycornelisse9228]

The girls are doing a great job working together with the machine and the camera work. Good video.

[@williamgibb5557]

There is nothing better then a informative talk from such a knowledgeable person! Em is a keeper! She was not only taught well, but listened and learned. Then her 10 billion brain cells took over and you see the results! Her sisters and brothers are her equal. We are all given gifts in life , and she is ours!

[@shanestamball1886]

😂😂 without closer inspection of this log, the medullary raises and and growth ring's, how are you to make a educated decision on the market that best suit's it uses?

[@5hawks]

And so pretty!

[@endtimes4sure964]

creepy ass weird comment lol

[@alvaropulido5245]

Yeah what a creepy ass comment

[@Ecomcommunities]

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[@Andy-ib6xd]

This log should have been given to you. It took more time than you could make from it. Love the way you are trying to get what you can!

[@johnbernklau9616]

This type of log is the reason we use a 56" circle headsaw to open the logs. Then send it to one of two band resaws. Saying that, and with 30 plus years of sawyer experience. I've always opted for putting the highest pat of the crown at about 22 deg. off top dead center, taking a few cut, and going to face 3. I understand your dogs may not have the holding power for this. I cut a 1face to 3face, then 2face and end up on the 4th face. This consistently gives higher yield than the 1,2,3,4 cutting solution. I've done yield studies on both methods, and with an industrial circle mill and pneumatic dogs, this method proved best. I'm not saying that is the safest method for your situation, but I'm glad to see that you've recognized and addressed the issue. Smooth sawing. Nd

[@davidschliebe246]

That's a great firewood log.

[@jaxxonbalboa3243]

Looks like a prime specimen for firewood.

[@richardbrowne1679]

They typically become firewood in my yard.

[@KenBreon]

Good call. This was a practice log for the girls. Boss Man.

[@kevenskilatonyius2178]

What's the best idea for firewood

[@paulrambone6705]

Em, you do have a real good eye for woodworking. Straight line every time.

[@claudairsocoll]

Hi emerald you were amazing today you really understand your work correct a log is not easy. Love it

[@OneIdeaTooMany]

Perfectly straight for the home centre

[@KenBreon]

I am still laughing. You are right. Great box store wood. Boss Man.

[@nellayema2455]

Lol!

[@philipmorehouse1069]

Nice job, Emerald. My grandfather had his mill back in the day when the blade was "round" and the teeth replaceable. It was amazing to watch him work with bad logs and end up with some pretty spectacular lumber.

[@chrisbulmer3229]

Cut'em in the crocks or the big saw will.

[@jessewilson8676]

Same grandfather sawmill had 2 round saws one on top of the other I think each was 5’ tall started working at his sawmill very young (70’s). The round blades are heavy, and make a lot of sawdust…bandsaws get more lumber out of each tree (less wasted sawdust).

[@wfdix1]

Whoever put this young lady in this presentation knows what they’re doing. As she matures, with more wisdom, she will be a fantastic spokesperson for the logging industry. Reco - gloves, goggles, protection footwear.

[@olespinoza7777]

Enjoy your content. Thanks for mixing things up so we not only learn your daily life but learn about you and your personal life a little. Keep it up... some channels are doing good in a watchers life and yours is one of them.

[@johncaffrey5395]

Thanks Emerald, I learned something new.

[@vk2ig]

This is one of your best videos so far! You provided a great explanation about how you deal with something out of the ordinary and maximise value. Well done!

[@jackposey3879]

Hahaha. I started watching this shit because I cut firewood. Then I'm in to wood processors. Now I'm here. Love it.

[@dmhipkins]

Great job explaining the process used to work through a banana shaped log. Today, I worked through one banana log 20 footer, with a twisting action at the small end. Relieving the tension and compression inside the log was a challenge while working toward a stable cant. Your camera and sound person earned an A+.

[@carlosreira2189]

I don't think it's the smartest method, though she's lovely. The tension in the wood tends to remain after drying and no matter how many years of stickering and weighting. You simply can't overwhelm the hydraulic power of wood cells (not without new "baking" methods). The figure of the boards will be nice though. and if thin enough they'll be acceptable. I recommend the old fashioned pit saw way--saw directly through the straightest longitudinal axis of bent logs yielding two equal left and right bananas. From there you can get flat albeit bent lumber. This wood is ideal for chair parts. But who makes chairs out of pine? IDK. Something lost, something gained in all sawing, amen?

[@Me-qp8vz]

@@carlosreira2189 The poor girl can't even spell lumber. Don't expect too much from her.

[@carlosreira2189]

@@Me-qp8vz Ha. Thanks for that reply. In my experience, big logs don't generally get made into lumber. It's simply not worth the trouble. Specialty guys will try and mill anything, with their dual head chainsaw rigs, but production sawmilling is about grade. Flatsawn, so the knots are round and clearest face. Lots of flipping of the log, even though that takes some time. Hydraulics do it in a split second. She's great. Super cute. Her family is teaching her the biz. That they even mess with a bent log is interesting. Blessings of success to you and yours for the new year: "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, you and your house."

[@simoeep1684]

randomly got recommended this. what an experience

[@jamarie1972]

Lovely to have knowledgeable commentary. Your getting so much more confident talking to us all,great job Emerald. Hello from across the pond 🇬🇧

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

So nice to see an ACTUAL 2 x 4👍

[@rexwoodall2179]

Emerald, “Bain of our existence!” Wow, not many people your age understand that expression! How smart you are in addition to your other talents! Nice job today!

[@dejavu666wampas9]

I’m also impressed with Em’s command of the language. Sorry if someone else has posted this, but the word ‘bane’ is for the expression ‘bane of our existence’. The word ‘bain’, apparently, is French for bath.

[@tabbris]

Thank you KZbin for recomending this channel.

[@heatherd212]

🇨🇦 Great job as always girls! Love the camera angles and the sound of the saw.

[@honeylocustlavenderfarm]

This young lady knows what she is talking about and to speak off the cuff and with out a script this show your true knowledge of milling

[@isaiahshaffer]

Something to think about, if the “bump” is severe enough you can take it down an inch or 3/4 at a time and get one or two live edge slabs that are live edge the whole way around, and then continue just as you did, they might make good live edge cutting boards and it’s just a product of milling a log like that!

[@rickoncordova1]

She said it was PINE. A soft wood. NOT good for cutting boards.

[@isaiahshaffer]

We have a few pine cutting boards we use for cutting and serving cheeses, they work fine for us, some people like the knife marks that develop over time and they are easier on a knife blade too, I’m sure they’d sell just fine

[@terrydougherty7078]

Happy to see the hearing protection in use.

[@kenbellamy6085]

Well, sometimes on logs like that, you get better firewood production. Great video as always.

[@moefugger]

I was thinking the same. That was alot of labor for 6 boards , versus what it would sell for as firewood.

[@mynameisjeff9560]

Well, they will probably sell the leftover wood as firewood so they get both products from a log, maximizing its worth

[@biopoweruk]

"It is what it is" - I can't stop saying that phrase my self now!!!!! Emerald - you are changing the world!

[@robertcourson8002]

I have finally figured out what the words are on Emeralds arm. Its in Latin and its meaning is death before defeat. Right above the star of David. She is kick.ass bad girl. I knew it

[@chesshooligan1282]

Loquerisne linguam latinam?

[@newffee]

That saw mill is really efficient and seems user friendly. Great job on the log sawing tutorial. Awesome job on the video angles. Good work.

[@Graybeard_]

The boards from these logs also bow a lot because the grain is not straight. I lay these logs flat as possible on the mill bed and cut 2" thick live edge slabs and make benches from them. The more "bananaed" the more customers like the bench. Otherwise I just make firewood out of them. I would have gotten four basic, rustic benches from that log at $200 a piece. $800 log ain't too bad. : / Logs with a big swale in them (usually from trees on a steep hillside where snow laid them out away from the hill when they were young, and then they survived and grew up), I take two facing slabs (butterflied) and make matching curved benches that can be used in a circular setting such as around a tree or circular garden ring. I can get $500-$600 a set for those.

[@johncarter1137]

Yelp, some of the boards Emerald cut were warped from the start. It's best to use these logs for something other than dimensional lumber.

[@bwillan]

I was thinking the same as you. Slab the log up and take advantage of the curves as a selling feature.

[@ccole9080]

great idea

[@ccole9080]

while fishing one day along a public acess waterway a nearby landowner made a bench for people to use. He did a beautiful job on it using a bannanad log, many layers of polyurethane on it . Been there for a number of years , a very kind thing to do and a pleasure to sit on and have a coffee or just daydream when the fishing slows down .

[@samuelluria4744]

@@johncarter1137 - No kidding.

[@mcconn746]

You seem to have done that before. Impressive. I am glad to see you wearing hearing protection. I am 74 and have had tinnitus for years from working around loud machines without hearing protection at your age. We did not know any better back then.

[@_gungrave_6802]

Nah many knew better but grew up on that "safety gear is for pussies so don't wear it and be a man" mentality so they didn't wear it to fit in. Mind you this isn't me making an insult but simply stating an observation about the culture back then.

[@mcconn746]

@@_gungrave_6802 You may be right that many knew better. We did not. We also did not know how harmful the sun or smoking was. I wish you well.

[@yveserichot2304]

Hi, Great explanation! Amazing to see you and your family working together, and show us all your skills in your lumber yard. Great work😊!

[@johntillotson4254]

Nice to see you all again

[@danielboughton3624]

Good to see the approach. I struggled for a while with this and now I just lay them flat and cut them 5/4 for shelf boards rather than try to get dimensional lumber. Shelves are generally going to be shorter and they are not cheap to buy like a 2x4. Another use I have seen is stairs. While oak is great a lot of fir and pine is used for this purpose and will last a long time.

[@curlyyoder]

We lay banana logs flat and make shorter lumber out of em. Cut them at their sharpest bend before you edge em. Utilizes a crooked log. If you have a use or market for shorter lumber!

[@ivanhicks887]

I NEVER Thought that Cutting wood would be SO Interesting - - -Congratulations - - - ! See You Next Time

[@garyworokevich2524]

Great info for this guy. I always learn something from this channel.

[@AR15231]

Wow, somebody was looking mighty good, the hair, the eye makeup, the jewelry.

[@d.t.4523]

Every little bit helps! Good luck. 👍

[@johngriggsjr.2271]

Not only do you give more info, you have a badass sawmill as well.

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

Knowledgable, capable and gorgeous too !

[@georgebartholemew8444]

When we get a "banana" log we turn it on its side and make live edge planks out of it, usually 1.5" thick. The local craftspeople love to work with them to make furniture.

[@sawmilldan]

Yes and by cutting the sides you get less tearout from grain going out or into a board surface

[@lumbercapitallogyard]

+George Bartholemew We don’t have a market for that at this point.

[@allanhover5008]

71.1 thousand subscribers outstanding to the whole family

[@dudleydeplorable5307]

There aren't any bad logs, some simply yield firewood...🤣

[@JB-qg2uc]

Those first two cuts make really nice rustic table boards for a small coffee table, bar table, or shelf.

[@psychotropnilachtan8869]

Yea but unfortunately there is not enough hipsters looking to buy such furniture :D

[@Wheelloader__]

Great video. We have a debarker at our mill. Those banana logs are no fun to debark either. They jump around and sometimes they even end up sideways.

[@louisevad6091]

Great milling. One thing you might consider is that some wood workers would love to have curved slabs. They wold pay top dollar. I look for unique material that can bring a desirable curve. Where as getting that same curve out dimensional lumber would not be possible with out glueing. I let the curve dictate the the overall shape of the project. Just putting that out there. Good job on your milling.

[@jaylesher703]

Absolutely that was my thoughts too. Great minds think alike.

[@jonwyatt262]

How do you cut a curved slab with a straight saw bed?

[@simonmorris-p7m]

If the log is laid with the curve in the horizontal plane then there is a fair chance of getting a good set of curved live edge boards without losing the bump & ends as you do with the curve facing up or down

[@AmericanPatriot-bp7cu]

What a smart young lady. Enjoyable to see her talents. I don't like tattoos but I like hers and its meaning also.

[@markk8225]

Good job, Em. Take the rest of the week off... With pay! BTW, you and I both pronounce "probably" as "proly". I'm from Indiana. Lived here all my life.

[@caseykelso1]

Thanks for more content... @ 2:20 , that's the stuff we love 😊... thanks for sharing 🍸

[@gregoryspencer3619]

Great job 👏 👍

[@JDAfrica]

I love how with each video you are trying to increase ur production level, and trying to improve ur techniques (moving while talking, controlled hand gestures and presentation). Not too many people on KZbin putting in this much effort! Good job

[@livingruralamericatoday2627]

Showing some skills , three inches of sweep and making it right !

[@diynevala]

I don't care much about lumber and I don't work with wood at all. Somehow I just enjoyed watching her explain this issue in great detail. I DO like watching videos like Blacktail Studio and other great makers, but this one I started watching because she is easy on the eyes and stayed because she got me curious about these things.

[@Whipkick2]

Really good explanation and came across with authority. Woodmiser Professor at work.

[@charlesmiddleton3247]

Love the way you explain it all. I've cut a few of these in the past and not fun. But your thinking process is spot on. I just want to thank the Boss Man and the crew for being environmentally conscience and for using just about the whole log to create a product. Keep the coffee going!!!

[@mikepetitt9624]

So the weird shaped parts you guys are cutting off would make a few great charcuterie boards. Something you may consider ….thanks for the great videos I really love learning how you guys figure out the different uses of your logs! Very interesting…..

[@MrDilley777]

Live edge slabs 2 inches thick or so could sell for more than we think.

[@cedarg9874]

Even a slight bow is a pain. Good vid. Thks.

[@highthereguys]

You guys are amazing. I absolutely love everything regarding this channel. Respect Respect Respect you are literally living the dream of billions of people around the world. Keep at it and never give up!

[@sharkey5150]

Great Work Emerald! You have a beautiful family and does my heart good to see y’all working together towards a mutual goal. Keep it up! I love the content and look forward to your videos every time one drops.

[@jimcooper1886]

Thank you Boss man. You have a talented family. Two thumbs up.

[@keegantimber8571]

Great video Em. So…just a wild estimate…you got 6 2x4’s at say $3.00 bucks a piece….so 18 bucks plus firewood sales out of that banana log?? I don’t have a mill…I just do a small amount of firewood and was always curious about how you pros deal with curved logs. Even for firewood…banana logs can be a pain to cut and split. 👍👍

[@onefortrees]

Arborist here; banana'd logs or curved logs as we call it (hehe) are the bane of all of our existences. Particularly when they fall perfectly and fly across a multimillion dollar back yard! 😂

[@johnh8268]

Em, thanks for the insight on your thought process! Did the Boss Man suggest this? He liked my comment about this a while back.

[@KenBreon]

John, I thought this was good practice for higher value material like walnut. Boss Man.

[@Seven30onFriday]

I think this is one of the best videos you've done. Assured, interesting, well shot.

[@lumbercapitallogyard]

Addressing many of the comments here, y’all realize it’s Pine right? Not applicable for many of your suggestions. But we appreciate your efforts 😊

[@nellayema2455]

Based on all of the firewood comments, I recommend that you pin your comment.

[@lumbercapitallogyard]

+Nella Yema Thanks!

[@mohammedalotaibi6683]

@@lumbercapitallogyard في اي ولاية تسكنين . هل نستطيع زيارتك 🌷🇸🇦

[@typhoonjenkins8330]

First time watching this channel. OMG that is some beautiful country where you're located. Kinda breath taking if I don't say so myself.

[@KenBreon]

Hey, welcome to the channel. Boss Man.

[@rynetechnologies9486]

If the banana log doesn't yield much from milling why not cut it for fire wood? Seems like that would be more profitable.

[@KenBreon]

This log was very questionable. Should have been FW. Thanks for the comment. Boss Man.

[@jcf536farrier5]

Good job. The hardest part about cutting a banana log is cutting all the waste wood off, but a lot of satisfaction for the wood you do get out of a banana log. Even if it’s small.

[@allhopeabandon7831]

How about the stress in a bowed log? When it dries will it warp more than a log with straight grain?

[@KenBreon]

Yes it will. This was more a practice log for optimizing value. Often we will use this material as dunnage for the log yard. Boss Man.

[@davidkettell5726]

yes it will look just like a Home Depot 2x4.lol.

[@SqueakyWheelMakesNoise]

That machine is so cool. Nice effects slowing down the video like that when you were showing the cutting process. Had me dreaming of owning one. 😃

[@jimcooper1886]

Great job. Do you cut 1 3/4 x 3 3/4 or true 2 x 4 ?

[@KenBreon]

Full dimension. Boss Man.

[@marklee6591]

Enjoy watching your channel I was a sawyer and had a LT 40 manual for twenty years I miss it but still get to have the sawyer I sold my mill to come and cut for me .I’m waiting for winter to cut some logs and then get it cut next spring. Keep posting I’m a fan.

[@marklee6591]

Don’t know how to text you to acknowledge my prize

[@nellayema2455]

@@marklee6591 It a scam and not from this channel. Don't fall for it.

[@UncleMike1]

Great to see your subscriber list continue to climb. Congrats to all of you. Great vids.

[@stevewilliams6178]

Gonna give you guys another revenue stream....Pen makers love your cutoffs...cut them to 1"x1"x6". These are now sized for pen blanks. These sell for $2.00 to $5.00 depending on the species of the tree. Sell in bulk for $1.50 @ for a box of blanks.

[@burlseeker4680]

Excellent suggestion ! I wish more of the smaller sawmills would offer turning stock for sale

[@glennwilck5459]

@@burlseeker4680 what are you guys after?!

[@mannurse7421]

But these guys cut hemlock you can’t turn softwood

[@burlseeker4680]

@@mannurse7421 I was thinking of Hardwood Turning stock.

[@seantilson6330]

BEAUTIFUL.!!! THE LOG IS COOL TOO.!! 😁👍👍

[@aresaurelian]

Love this. Thank you Emerald and the Lumber Capital Log Yard team.👌😊

[@bladerivera]

Just wondering what keeps a banana log from going straight to the firewood pile? Do you mill all of your oddball logs or only certain ones? Another awesome video otherwise 👍🏾

[@FeatherHorseforge]

The boss man (@teri Breon)said he likes the girls to “train on a cheap pine log” and then the girls will know what to do if say a walnut log or similar comes in.

[@joshuawiedenbeck6944]

​@@FeatherHorseforge Yeah, the price difference between a pine log and a walnut log is quite large. Don't want to mess up on a log where the wood costs $5-$10 a board foot.

[@rolandtinker734]

Very informative GREAT job Have a great day ladies ☕️👍

[@garymoats9718]

Do you have a place you could sell your junk logs such as a pulp mill or osb mill?

[@KenBreon]

Currently those markets are not available to us. Boss Man.

[@jurgenschur9210]

I am very impressed how you managed this banana lumber. I never thought of such problems, so it is very interesting to hear about. Thanks and I wish furthermore an accident-free work.

[@johnvelas70]

Question about your LT15: what is the shortest piece you can mount?

[@KenBreon]

About 3-4 foot although there a ways to cut short material. It just takes time to set up.

[@johnvelas70]

@@KenBreon My Dad has a piece 24" long x 18" dia. I'm guessing that's too short?

[@martionpaul3210]

Thank you for your kindness also goes well with feedback thank you

[@martionpaul3210]

Thank you for your price thank you for your feed back allso want again your kindness

[@garthmcgibbon4285]

I think you would get more board feet cutting it with the banana flat then sawing only 4/4 boards. Once cut saw the flitches 15:07 where the straight run changes direction. In your case three stacks of boards. Then edge each stack and sell to people who want short pieces.

[@Corrvision]

Cool thanks for shearing what and how Sawyers work milling the raw logs!

[@Oudeis000]

I'm guessing that you would be a champ at those mechanical claw games given all the eye-hand coordination practice you get with the sawmill. 🙂

[@btrent9244]

Great job Emerald!!! Are there opportunities to market a suboptimal log such as the banana shaped one, to those custom table makers who use those odd shaped pieces to creat “lazy river style” epoxy resin tables? Some of these bring a significant return. Thank you. Trent

[@alui92]

Very good video. Actually wasn't expecting very much as it looked like "just another beautiful face to distract from bs" but you actually know what you're doing. I like woodworking professions and adored your calm way of explaining everything in a simple fashion. One thing that kept getting my attention was your lack of headprotection, especially not having braided, compacted hair. Here in germany that would be a no-go regarding risks of hair getting into moving parts of heavy machinery.

[@robmosher362]

Looking forward to seeing you reach one hundred thousand subscribers. Love your channel and your commentary.

[@johnelizondo6678]

After watching many of your videos I have decided to purchase a portable sawmill. It looks like a lot of work, but also a lot of fun.

[@chesshooligan1282]

Whatever you do, don't watch videos of nuclear submarines.

[@adamtoth5872]

Hi all, I'm a Sawdoctor from Australia, (sawfiler)in your language, I'm enjoying watching your videos

[@johnh52]

Em is the most beautiful sawyer, hands down!

[@justicedemocrat9357]

Well that's the cutest lumberjack I've ever seen.

[@2010COpall]

I guess it all depends on the market for which you are sawing. As a furniture maker, I'm looking at that banana log and thinking, use a two cross-cuts to eliminate that cup in the middle. You would end up with two straight sections of log from which you would get two thicker cants. They would be shorter, but the boards would still be plenty long for making furniture.... I appreciate these informative videos from LCLY. I live in Central Pa. Going to have to pay this mill a visit.

[@woodbees2801]

This is pine but shipwrights love curved slabs.

[@PeopleLoveShorts]

Your hair so beautiful I just love them :)

[@paulc.4211]

Thank you all for another well presented video, The explanation was very informative and it sounds like u gained knowledge from this task, good job

[@standonze1316]

Good job! I own my own sawmill and am a master woodworker. When I cut a curved log, I just leave the curve and slab it thick and sell it to timber framers as a curved beam 👍

[@gandyman9999]

I milled all my straight cedar for a floating dock and used the nanners for a super-curvy deck. They make interesting trellis and railings. Of course you have to start off with the crookedest log in the forest for a beam...but I hear the crooked ones are cheap eh.