Lumix 12-35 2.8 and 35-100 2.8 Mki ... And Why You Should Grab A Bargain

[@joseluisphotoReal]

I got the mark 2- both lenses for $900 US total. I would like to thank Tony Northrup and the rest of the KZbin "Full frame or Die" community for enabling me to get such great deals on m43 lately!

[@clintjohnson5914]

well bought --and absolutely agree on the Northrup comment--MFT bargains are falling from the sky due to that flippant comment. Now,, I just need to get past the mental block of thinking I need to get that 12-60 Lumix instead of the 12-35 2.8. That "Leica" nameplate must have me transfixed,, I have passed up some bargains 12-35s holding out... sigh

[@marcjones7486]

I just bought both mark 1 versions of the 12-35 and 35-100 in excellent condition for less than $700. Deals are out there if you're patient.

[@martingreenberg870]

Good things come to those that can wait. Congratulations on your purchase. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@MarcHillM]

Have both Mk1's and they've seen life on my GH3, then GH4 and now GH5. The 35-100 must be one the most underrated lenses and you are the first to mention just how good a portrait lens it is - which it is. These reliably get good shots ina huge range of conditions.

[@artjohnson01]

I’ve got so many lenses that cover that short to portrait distance. Rokinon 12mm 2.0, Pana kit 14-42mm, and Pana 25mm f1.7. Hard to justify tossing them for this, but the thought of ONE lens for all this focal distance is appealing. On the other hand, that 35-100 covers a lot of ground and outside of my 42.5 f1.7 (maybe my favorite lens), seems a practical focal distance for walking around. Yup, I’ve convinced myself!!

[@raksh9]

The dark purple black of the Mk I lenses is one of my favorite aspects of these lenses. I bought them in 2012 and 2013 and they have been hugely useful for corporate, event and doc work. With a couple of very fast primes, you're covered for almost anything apart from long distance wildlife or specialised wide angle shooting.

[@giacomom2370]

I got a 12-35 MKII last year and have been loving it with my BMPCC 4K. It’s fantastic to have that portability and lightweight setup. Many people rig and adapt other lenses to this camera but I opted to stay in the MFT system because of particulaly these options for picking up professional shots without being noticed even in really forbidden places to film professionally.

[@TheWatchMker]

I bought both of those in the mark II and they were the only lenses I took on a 20 day trip in Europe. They were a magical upgrade over my previous lenses

[@amcripps25]

I have the 35-100 Mk2, more for travel than anything else. I still don't feel that I have really connected with it, but looking back I can't say it's ever disappointed me, took some great pictures with it. I went to Arizona in the Spring, took the 35-100, the 8-18, and the Oly 25mm for low light. I did miss not having a longer lens occasionally, but I didn't miss the extra weight that bringing the 40-150 or 200mm would have entailed.

[@laurentyarp514]

Yes, same for me. 100mm is a bit short in some situations. But I really appreciate the constant aperture. I purchased it to complement my 12-60 and it does the job. btw Got the mk II second hand at 700 Euros in my local shop. You can also find good opportinities in camera stores.

[@chrismahren4924]

the mk2's are also frostproofed, the mk1's aren't. i have had some problems with the o-rings/seals sort of sticking and making the zoom sticky... upgraded both and my problems were gone. ... a more winter-fit lens, and, as you said: sharper, more stable, more weathersealed.

[@gjwhite]

The 35-100 is the next lens I want to pick up for my gx85. I currently have the panaleica 15 & 25 as well as the 42.5 f1.7 and the 35-100 would be a nice replacement for my kit 45-150.

[@ThatDonovanKid]

Did you get the 35-100? I also shoot with a GX85 almost exclusively with the 42.5 f1.7, but I rented the 35-100 for a job last week. It performed so well I'm looking to buy it now.

[@vellho74]

Yesterday, got the 12-35 mk1, like new, for €330! What a joy of lens! Thanks for your advice.

[@colinthecameraguy]

I bought both of these lenses for my GH4 a few years back and yes I have upgraded the firmware in both. I call these my Outdoor Lenses (I have faster primes for indoor work) and plan to take them both to Barcelona (with the GH5) next month. I too have never noticed any particular issues with flare but I usually leave a circular polariser attached.

[@paolopaolo9510]

Bought the 12-35 mk1 when the MK2 was announced and for me it's never disappointed. I pair it with my Olympus em1 mk2 (so not concerned about dual stabilisation) and it works great. Colours, contrast and sharpness are very satisfying. I use it for the occasional event and for family and friends functions and am always very happy with the results. For its size it's a heavy hitter. I do nowadays switch off the lens stabilisation and rely on the Oly body which has given me better results at low speeds (I have lens priority set on camera for my 100-400 PL) . If I'm going to be in extra low light I'll switch to a 1.2 or a 1.4 prime if I really need to or use my godox tt685o flashes. Thanks for the video 😀

[@JeevesTCW]

Abs Fabulous photo's Emily. I recently bought a mint 35-100 Mark II as prices are now dropping 2nd hand but I'm sure all versions abs great as you have shown. As I'm a lover of city shots using ultra wide lenses my lens outfit now includes the Pana Leica 8-18 f2.8-4 plus another of your favs the Pana Leica 25mm f1.4. (Switched from Oly 9-18 & Pana Leica 12-60 f2.8-4) All the best Rich.

[@clintjohnson5914]

OK-- so,, I followed your advice and began watching Ebay and GearFocus and local forums and found a nice boxed series I for $340US.. Absolutely love it. My work just bought an Olympus 45-150 2.8 (which some consider the "Halo" MFT telephoto) so I've made a few comparisons.. The Panasonic is a true to what the MFT system is about ,,Compact and light--and center area is pin sharp at all focal lengths and f-stops. Stop down to f4- f8 and the Lumix is as good as you can get. The Olympus is considerably more to lug about and weatherproof-- IF,, you were absolutely critical for edge to edge sharpness in ALL situations-- the Olympus has an edge... also, the Olympus has a matched 2X that you can use to add versatility with only a very tiny quality compromise,,but the Olympus is 3X the cost,,, even used. I would also say the Olympus has an edge in out-of-the -camera color...nothing that you can't tweek in post. My 2 cents worth -- I think your evaluation of this lens as a high performance bargain is spot on..

[@JJC1138]

On the basis of this video I just nabbed a 35-100mm f/2.8 Mk1 on eBay for £342 inc. postage, and I just wanted to say thank you so much for the information and recommendation! I can't wait to start playing with the lens 😊

[@RealmsOfThePossible]

Had the 12-35 for years and still love it to bits!

[@klausihlerholm397]

I really enjoy your cannel - spot on 😍 I have both of the lenses you mention and they are as you describe. Somehow the Nocticron 42.5 and the Lumix Leica 12 mm are my absolute favorites. I used to have 2 g7 with these glued on - that was really that until I got the g9😎 Great photos by the way - keep up the good work you are a source of inspiration ❤️

[@colinthecameraguy]

Klaus Ihler Holm The 12mm f1.4 will be my next purchase. I would obviously like to include the Nocticron 42.5 also but . . . .

[@TheRiceguy78]

my main prime was the 15mm 1.7 Lumix Leica (very Good lens btw) but after purchasing the 12mm 1.4 Lumix Leica i have not removed it from the body yet. world of a difference.

[@aramb]

I have the 12-35 Mark I. Awesomely sharp. It's my walk-around lens on the G9. Bought it used locally last year.

[@patrickwhitehead]

I looked at both these lenses but when comparing them to the Olympus Pro 12-40 and 40-150 they just couldn't compete (for me). The Olympus lenses have better range and much closer focusing, the manual focus clutch and the overall feel of a better quality product. Yes they lose out on larger size and no dual IS but I find the 12-40 a perfect match to my GX8 and the 40-150 on my em5 mkII with the added grip is a joy to use, I love the tripod mount both for tripod use and as a handle for hand holding. There's also the 1.4 and 2.0 tele convertors for the 150, making it even more versatile. At the time I bought them there was very little price difference and I even got the 1.4 TC thrown in to sweeten the deal.

[@barbarajames4933]

Great video and timely for me. I have gx9 with 12-60 kit lens. I am liking the images ok and in love with the sepia video but the zoom on the lens is too stiff. And this is where your lens reviews come in, watched them all a couple of times. Your vids have helped me move from where to start, to maybe i could skip a few car payments and buy that lens, to what do i really want and where to look for it. I know how much time and work these videos take but once done they are timeless, because now we all know, old lenses hang around for years and eBay is their karma 😁

[@alangauld6079]

I bought the 12-35 recently after comparing with my 14-42 pancake and the Olympus 12-40. For me the smaller size and weight beat the Olympus and the f2.8 constant aperture beat the pancake (although I kept it for video work). The difference between v1 and v2 was irrelevant compared to the price difference. The 35-100 didn't tempt me away from my 45-175 though. At that length f2.8 isn't an issue but weight and size are, as well as the extra reach. As for IQ I found the X Power zooms, when stopped to f8, just as capable as the "pro" lenses, just not as solidly built(but a lot lighter).

[@th3mi55ingl1nk]

Just brought the 35-100 on your recommendation and love it 😍. Love the channel keep up the good work

[@launcestonmethodists9444]

yup, a few years on and this is what I did. Mk 3 is around now and the same applies x

[@manoftheroad55]

Just purchased 12 35 f2.8 MK2...yes great improved appearance over 12 32 kit..cost £380 auction price ...Mk 1 still at £345 buy it now. Even at CEX ....Either mounted on a tripod with stabilisation off (stabilisation does I think creates "noise" and degrades images...)...downside is increased weight and size ...But images have more contrast and detail ...I use G100..likely a G9 or GH5 would push up quality (?) and offer as good as anything shown on KZbin at sub £1k....

[@DarkTrapStudio]

For video the stabilisation is really better and a bit of the focus too, but it seems to be the only 2 better thing. I think the sharpness is the same but the software in the mark2 add a bit of contrast, for stills make no sens to upgrade.

[@AnnaVahtera]

Coming from other hobbies and things, it never ceases to amuse me when photographers refer to $300+ prices as "bargains" or "cheap" :D I get why that is, being a hobbiyst photographer myself, but some photography gear is just flat out horrendously priced and wouldn't be worth it in the LEAST, if there weren't high-level pros who just buy anything without even looking at price tags. (I'm looking at you tripods, most of those are so ridiculously priced it's not even funny). I'm just happy Chinese occasionally come up with stupidly cheap lenses for the rest of us. And used non-pro lenses are actually sometimes cheap.

[@Kuro-sf9uw]

My parents got me the 12-35mm mkII for my a-levels and i absolutely love this lens on my g81 ^^

[@peternicholson26]

I got a new job recently. Don't suppose there looking at buying another gift? Ha

[@matthwjmes]

Thanks this was just the video I was looking for.

[@lukmanahmed6999]

I bought the 12-35mm mki after watching your videos. Yet to receive it. I will update you on how it goes.

[@Asmodemon]

Thank you ! I was looking for information on the weather sealing for the mrk I for soooo long!

[@bjnslc]

The purplish anodizing is just weird. From what I understand, my Mark 1 lenses don't provide the 5-axis stabilization that the Mark 2 lenses provide. It's not just a matter of "stops" of stabilization, it's the directions of camera movement that can be stabilized. The performance of my lenses is good enough, so I haven't rationalized getting the new versions. I do suggest that anyone buying a used 12-32mm be sure the focusing ring is working smoothly. The lubrication on these is minimal, and mine got very difficult to turn. I found several reports of the same problem online. I was able to use a little silicone lubricant to partially restore smooth operation, but this is one side effect of poor weather sealing. To really fix the ring, I'd need to have the lens serviced (I'm not about to take it apart myself). My 35-100mm hasn't had the same problem, but it gets used less frequently. Any bargain needs to be weighed against the functional problems and the potential cost of repair. I don't know about UK depots, but Panasonic repair prices are very expensive stateside. These aren't old-school mechanical lenses. The focusing ring is focus-by-wire and I half expected to kill the electronic rotation sensor when I added lubricant.

[@carriestarscapemedia]

I love my 12-35 mk 1 but I've had the same issue with the focus ring. I think mine has been stiff since I purchased the lens new way back when. I didn't even realize how rough it was until using a friend's identical lens once. By that time it was too late to cash in a covered service repair on mine. Would love to know if you found a good fix, or if you know how much it costs to send them off for repair.

[@FlorianLand]

Super interesting to hear your thoughts on that. Was currently looking into getting the 35-100 and thought the mk2 was a significant better choice, without ever having tested them next to each other tbh. certainly gonna reconsider now before dropping any cash 🤣

[@MicroFourNerds]

Good call! I love the original version 😍 I mean I’m sure the mk2 will be better but I really don’t believe it will be *twice the price* better, ya know what I mean!

[@martingreenberg870]

@@MicroFourNerds Diminishing marginal returns. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@mariusm2402]

I've "inherited" the 35-100 mark 1 from my brother. He switched to the olympus 40-150 f2.8. The 35-100 is my favorite lens though. It's tiny for a 70-200 f2.8 lens, no extension while zooming, excellent optical quality, only about 400g, good build quality.... With these qualities I do not even know what they could have improved on the mark 2? Maybe the OIS, which I mostly don't use on my olympus cameras (as no sync OIS is possible between Oly and panasonic - a real pity Oly and pana couldn't agree on a interoperability here).

[@martingreenberg870]

I agree that the mark i versions are a better bargain. Love these lenses. These two lenses could be the only two lenses you need. Primes are good though. I have the PL12-60 lens but prefer the two lens set, especially since the 12-60 isn’t f2.8 throughout the range by a long shot. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@alexwade9921]

I bought both MkI lenses when they were brand new out. Paid something like £900 for the 12-35. Never regretted it. Superb lenses both. I can’t comment on the IS2?stabilisation difference. I highly doubt that the MKII achieves a higher sharpness optically by any other means than stabilisation. The optical layout and mechanical operation is identical. They’ll be made on the same production line and the tooling will have worn a bit by now. Early examples of anything mechanically engineered are always best.

[@CymBan]

There's also a slight difference in how they treat aperture changes in video. There's not much difference between mk 1 mk 2 for photographers just some slight quality of life improvements for videographers. So , as you said , it makes the Mk1's a great deal for photogs. I have a 12-35 mk1 but I only use it during events . During the day my 14-140 is glued to my G9 instead :)

[@gjwhite]

Got the 35-100 mark 1 for Christmas today. It was in an eBay box so I can only assume santa got a good deal!

[@barbara98721]

This stuff never gets old :)

[@derekdelboy]

I got my 35-100 mk 1 yesterday along with a 9mm 1.7.

[@ToolCraze]

Awesome lenses when I had them and recommend them for sure. I've since replaced them with the Olympus versions for the extra reach on both. Sure I give up OIS however the G85 and G9 both have impressive IBIS, and the Gx85 I have does a good enough job in this department too. But yeah the 35-100 is tiny and light in comparison to the Oly monster.

[@Dvann562]

I have an Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark III and I wanted to get a prime for it. I was looking at the Olympus 25mm 1.8 and the Panasonic 25mm 1.7. New Olympus 25mm goes for $399. Sometimes there's instant rebates for it, but it's still over $300. I went with the Panasonic on eBay for $96 and I love it.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Bargain!!

[@ordinosaurs]

Both are good lenses. The Panasonic needs a touch more pampering so I finally dropped it in favour of a cheap Olympus 25 when one appeared in the classifieds but it did a very good interim meanwhile. I prefer the Olympus rendering in the end, but the Panasonic is good enough, and it doesn't really lose value either, so in case you find yourself an Olympus later, you will get your money back on it. Another Panasonic lens I love is the diminutive P14/2.5 ; a the current 2nd hand price it's a bargain. It's not a "great" lens, but it's my goto street photography lens. So small no-one takes notice.

[@danielsripuntanagoon2884]

I have the 12-35 mkII and I love it for run’n’gun shooting. I plan to get the 10-25/1.7 as soon as I can reasonably afford it but I may still keep the 12-35 for gimbal work and situations where a low profile is desired. I’m sure that you’ve been asked before, but what do you think about the new 10-25mm from Panasonic? Are you considering adding it to your lens kit?

[@MicroFourNerds]

I am dying to try it. I could sell about 4 different lenses to justify it too haha

[@AndrewCooperPhotography]

i bought both the 12 - 35 and 35-100 as soon as they came out before Olympus had their 2.8s, paying top dollarbut i think like you worth every penny. I too had been looking at ebay and other SH sales, and picked up a 8-18 to replace the 7-14 and your fav 9-18. Have a play with this, you wont resist!!

[@osirismarbles5177]

I picked up the 12-35 Mkii for $629US on eBay which was just slightly above the going rate for the Mki. The Mkii is also supposed to have better autofocus when filming video (I don't shoot enough video to know). Anyway, point is VERY good deals can be had for the Mkii. My suspicion is due to the 10-25 being released.

[@SuperRaven79]

I have both Mk1 and love them for stills. No way to upgrade to Mk2. BUT for video with manual focus.... I definetly prefer the Canon 24-105mm f/.4.0 ( also MK1 ;-) ). With speedbooster it gets also a constant f/2.8 and a combination/compromiss of the two pana-lenses in terms of focal length. But manual focussing is much more easy when shooting docu-style video.

[@evenaicantfigurethisout]

A new mkii is about 550 GBP where I live and I couldn't really find the 300GBP price on eBay you were talking about (from a reputable reseller). So, still on the fence

[@Mir1189]

I was about to buy Olympus 12-100 F4.0 when i found Mark I of 35-100mm F2.8. I was curious and i took few test shot with both lenses. Olympus was (after some pixel peeking) far sharper on both center and edges. (I have two Olympus bodies just for info) So I asked about 35-100mm Mark II, did same test shot, peeked the pixels and it was perfectly sharp. So i paid the extra price a got myself 35-100 F2.8 Mark II. I took it test shooting. a) I did nice street photos. (Well. nice... Emptiness and despair of an empty marketplace during corona pandemic, i did it monochrome upped the contrast a bit and its nice and bleak :D) b) I made best portrait ever with it. I did not expect that with a zoom. Colors, bokeh and even the distortion fit perfectly.

[@bovrilla]

4 years late to the party - holy cats, the 12-35 mk2 is coming down in price as well! Just ordered mk2 for £329 in (seemingly) reasonable condition. Hurry up, post!

[@lnuponom2678]

Bought 12-35. When I zoom, a barely audible click is heard at focus 15-17, if you listen in silence. What could it be?

[@noopynnus]

I'm torn between picking up the 35-100mm 2.8 or fork up double the amount of money and get the 25-50mm 1.7. I understand they're not direct comparisons to each other, but having the 12-35mm 2.8, I feel like I'm lacking in the telephoto department, and sometimes would long for the "compression" look that telephoto brings. I'm not sure if the 25-50mm 1.7 is enough "zoom" to give that compressed look I'm after, but it sure sounds like a very good lens for portraiture and with aperture as wide as f1.7, it should be better in low light as well!

[@martingreenberg870]

As you point out, the f1.7 zoom could cost you a kidney. Luckily you have two of them. I haven’t opted for the F1.7 lens as bokeh isn’t that important to me. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@vermis8344]

Precisely the lens duo I was thinking of buying. Although I see the prices for the mkiis are down to about £400-ish these days. Decisions decisions. 🤔

[@keithspillett5298]

I don't have either of these lenses, but I DO have the Sigma Art trilogy of 19, 30, and 60mm f/2.8. I wish Sigma would produce a 10 or 12mm f/2.8, because this would make life complete. They are SO bloody sharp from wide open, just like the full frame Art lenses, but, unlike their full frame cousins, they nail focus first time every time. I'd love to know if you've ever tried any of them, and what you thought, because the whole SET come in cheaper than either of the Panasonic zooms under discussion here.

[@DaXin3]

first of all..... BEAUTIFUL pics. :) Second: Nice offers... I got a little Pansonic GM1 with actually 3 lenses : The in-pack 12-32mm 3.5-5.6 (its really good for blogging with its good gran angular at 12, and also the 1.7/20mm pancake and the 3.5-5.6 14-140mm . Sometimes i feel i got "some problemes" to take pics at night... Maybe one of your recomendations could replace one of my lenses...

[@colinscamping3408]

I've found the opposite. You can get the Mkii 12-35 for about 500 new if you look around which makes the mk1 expensive at 350 used. In fact you can buy the mkii new cheaper than many UK sellers are asking for used ones

[@FrauStaenki]

I think your video worked … No bargains available anymore … ;-)

[@clintjohnson2460]

Just a note to say how much I enjoy your channel,,wonderful combination of great info--(backed by pretty good images--) and fun cheerfulness.. I watch,,and I should comment more,,,I will do better. As of Feb, 2020,,it's looking like it will take from $400-450 US do get a Mk1 12-35,,that's with box, caps and hood in good shape,,and somewhere around 650 Yankee bucks for a Mkll. Just curious if you have used the Olympus 12-50 3.5-6.3?? I know it's a weird looking affair and doesn't get a lot of love on the reviews,,But I have found it to be really OK. I shot the 12-60 2.8-4 PanLeica and love it to death,,but just couldn't afford it..I find the Olympus at just over $100 (new ,,open Box from a dealer) to have been a fantastic bargain ...even after having to buy a separate cheap import lens hood for $9-- (no thanks Olympus for the $57 US add on)..P.S.--I you come back to So. Utah drop us a line -- I can show your group some amazing spots ,,not on the tourist trails!!

[@joonas.manninen]

Olympus 12-40 f/2.8 vs Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8 is a hard one, but I think Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 is no brainer over Panasonic 35-100 f/2.8. Unless the dual is a must for your photos.

[@jorgelopez-vy4ux]

what about the olympus 12-40 f2.8?

[@rockloffel8233]

such a great lense and so fun to use. only flaw is that it tends to have flares

[@jorgelopez-vy4ux]

I’m debating between the panasonic 2.8 and the olympus 2.8. I guess the extra 5mm the olympus has (10mm full frame equivalent) makes me want the olympus over the panasonic.

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

I bought them together with the brand new GH3 back in time. Full price of course but divided by 6 years of usage (and counting) it's still a bargain.

[@ClevelandTerry]

I have these lenses also but that Leica 10-25 1.7....That may be the last lens I ever buy.

[@Steve-jl8pq]

yes it looks amazing and with the 1.7 constant aperture a super allrounder

[@CharvatBros]

Hey, nice vid...cheers for that. Btw. do you think the speed of autofocus or afc is the same for mkI and mkII? Especially for 35-100. Im shooting cycling, pretty fast action sport. Thanks for your answer.

[@TerenceKearns]

When using it for videos, the Mk1 seems to have micro-jitters (according to other reviewers)

[@papafrita96]

I'm in the process of switching from an Olympus to a Lumix one and I have the Oly 12-40. Would this work fine on a Lumix body or would it be worth hassle of selling and grabbing the 12-35mm? Love your videos!

[@martingreenberg870]

I use both Olympus and LUMIX. Mostly lumix. I own both lenses. The Olympus 12-40 pro lens is super. Don’t sell it. The 12-40 will work on LUMIX bodies and visa versa. The unfortunate thing is the stabilization doesn’t work on the other brand’s bodies. That is OK. The IBIS will handle the job. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@iogava_photography]

Hello. I think that this video is relevant even now, after 4 years :) The story is the same. The MK II variant from 12-35mm f:2.8 and 35-100mm f:2.8 is not cost-effective considering that the difference compared to MK I is very, very small. In conclusion, switching from Full Frame to APSC and then to MFT, and having experience with many series of photo lenses, I decided to purchase the MK I version of the two Lumix lenses mentioned above. Thanks for this clip.

[@SuperheroToyShowdowns]

I want to get the 12-35 for video but am worried about the manual focusing as its focus by wire, do you use yours manually at all? If so how is it?

[@bushboxer]

I have used PL 12-60 and oly 12-40 and I can say the manual focus clutch is very, very nice for video on the 12-40. Focus by wire, especially on certain lenses is very difficult to use for video (focus pulling etc.) I prefer the 12-40 nowadays. The 12-60 is collecting dust =D Haven't used the pl 12-35 but I suspect a similar experience with its fly-by-wire focusing. The oly 12-40 manual focus clutch is almost as good as a fully manual focus (got a mitakon 25mm for comparison)

[@garyrobinson8665]

Hi I'm thinking about getting the 35 100. I have an olympus EM5 Mark II do you think it's a good choice or is it too big?

[@cherfiguereo2271]

I wonder if you have a video or plan to, about the computer/laptop/whatever you used to edit your photos, I noticed you have a Mac. Any suggestions?

[@MicroFourNerds]

I’m really quite boring with my editing computers, I just invest in a new Mac every few years to keep the processing power up to speed. I got the late 2017 i7 version of the 21” imac last year, so I’m hoping it’ll last me a good while. Prior to that I had a 17” MacBook Pro from 2011 😱 it worked surprisingly well given how old it was, I think I edited my first 50 videos or so on it. But then moving properly to 4K made it very slow

[@cherfiguereo2271]

@@MicroFourNerds thank you so much for this information. FYI, I bought the lumix 80 or 85 and it's awesome but my pc can't process one raw image using luminar. Greetings from NY

[@iancheyne]

I have the 12-35 MkII and love the lens ... I've just ordered the 35-100 MkI from eBay and I'll let you know my impressions. BTW: As a Scouser abroad, I love the Images and Video that you show of our fair City. When are you going to show some Wirral / Chester stuff ... ?

[@MicroFourNerds]

Ooo I do love Chester. Quite a few of my older reviews were shot there! I do most of my weddings on the Wirral. It’s such a lovely place

[@iancheyne]

Bebington born and bred ... Wirral Grammar boy. Mum still lives there, right in Beb' village close to Port Sunlight.

[@kevinridley8883]

just found 12-35mm f2.8 ii £495 & 35-100mm f2.8 ii £529 both new , on ebay can't find mk i for less than this

[@screamingfilms]

Hi, Thanks for another great video. I have a question that so far I couldn't find the answer for on the Internet. How is focusing (by wire) working on these lenses, f.i. on MKII (which I have), there is this very annoying feature, when you move the ring a little bit faster, the focus jumps, when you try to move the ring slower - the focus is very, very slow. It's really annoying in the video, to the point I'm considering to sell both lenses (12-35mkii and 35-100mkii). Does this happen on old version too? I have an old version of 14-140 and focus works perfectly fine, that's why I'm so disappointed with the new revision of Panasonic's flagship zooms.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Unfortunately the fly by wire focus is a common feature on both the Mki and mkii and most m43 lenses

[@screamingfilms]

@@MicroFourNerds Thank you for replying. I wish Panasonic could add an option for 'constant speed' focusing without this annoying acceleration, but probably it's just wishful thinking. I was hoping that maybe an old version of these zooms focus at least the same way as Panasonic 14-140mm, at least on that lens I feel that I have more control. I cannot say the same about 12-35mm mk2 and 35-100mm mk2, it was a real pain to work with them on the run-gun situation with lifestreaming from the camera during the show.

[@balazsszentesi6360]

Do you know the difference between the 35-100mm I. vs II. ? I mean from the look, to make difference when you buy it used online so cant be tricked. Thanks

[@DaxNZ]

Is the autofocus better in the newer version?

[@LL-et3yk]

I'm going to switch into micro 4/3rds and have a budget of ~$1000-1200. I'm very new to micro 4/3s but have been finding many lens videos and narrowed down to these 3 I would ideally like to start with: 12-35mm mkii and 45mm f1.8. Anyone have recommendations for a kit to get? I do primarily portrait and travel photography and just need to find a camera body within this budget.

[@tmstone835]

The Oly 45mm 1.8 is a great close quarters portrait lens or indoor studio lens and you can pick them up at reasonable used prices. The Sigma 60mm 2.8 is, for me, nicer when I'm outdoors and I picked one up on the Sigma refurbished site for $150US. I get more working distance from the subject which makes them more comfortable and it is incredibly sharp with beautiful bokeh. Their newer 56mm 1.4 should be amazing, too. The Oly 75mm 1.8 is fantastic but it always seems just a little too long and they are pricey. If you don't need the 20mpx sensor, look at the 16mpx GX85 or the G85 (US versions). They are still selling new but at fantastic prices. They work with Dual IS. They both do great 4K video but lack some of the more advanced video features such as headphone jacks and no external mic jack on the GX85.

[@LL-et3yk]

tmstone835 thanks so much! I picked up the Panasonic 42.5, going to try it out soon but I’ll definitely check out the Sigma!

[@superwander]

Can any one comment about the IQ diference between Pan 12-35mm and the Pan Leica 12-60mm please? I´m mostly a still photogrpher so i just make few videos every year. Also thank you very much for the video MFN!

[@carriestarscapemedia]

I had both lenses. Never tested them side by side but I was generally pleased with the sharpness of both. However, the Leica felt like a more substantial lens with it's size, build quality, and much smoother focus ring. I think my 12-35 has a slight focus ring issue as it has always been a bit difficult to maneuver. I do love the 12-35 though, for its compactness and constant 2.8 aperture. In the end, the 12-35 won out on that feature alone and I sold the 12-60.

[@hannomatt]

What do you think of the respective Olympus Pro lenses in comparison?

[@MicroFourNerds]

I tried the pro lens with the em1 Mkii which was absolutely bloody brilliant (I did a review on my channel moons ago) but just because I have lumix camera the dual IS makes more sense for me. During they test though, the em1 mkii and pro lens blew the gh5 out of the water

[@hannomatt]

@@MicroFourNerds Wow that's impressive, will look up that video you did, thanks!

[@kevinridley8883]

hi all, after selling all my nikon FF & crop cameras & lenses because of the weight , i bought an XT2 alot lighter, but now coming across to MFT because i still cant be bothered to pick up the XT2 & hang it around my neck so fuji gear is all for sale . I like the look of the G9 but wondering if i get the GX9 would i use it more, as i can pick it up & stick it in my pocket.& mybe G9 later if i like the system. sorry for the ramble. My question is if i bought let say 12-35 & 35-100 F2.8 would i get the same results with the GX9 as i would with the G9 ? ( picture wise , don't really do video) big difference or would it be negligible ? thanks all

[@dzeng]

Yes you would get the same results. I have both the g9 and gx9. I use the gx9 way more than the g9 because it's lighter and easier to bring anywhere with. However, I've had more shots with the g9 because of its high burst ability. I used the g9 primarily for the occasional action/sports shots where I think it will make a difference but all other scenarios I much prefer the gx9.

[@kevinridley8883]

@@dzeng thanks for your help. i was hoping that was the case , thats me off to buy both.

[@AdamKuzniar]

Are the micro jitters in 35-100 mk1 fixed? That problem was what kept me from buying it

[@MicroFourNerds]

You know, until this video I’ve never even heard of this issue! I think I may have been lucky, I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but in two years I’ve never personally experienced anything like this

[@glsracer]

I wonder if there is any reason to buy a 12-35 f/2.8 if you have the 12-60 Leica? I do want to pick up a mk I 35-100 at some point.

[@carriestarscapemedia]

I had both and just sold the Leica. I honestly liked the focus ring on the Leica a lot better than the 2.8 - it had a lot more give to it - and the build quality of both was good. The Leica felt more substantial though, albeit a bit heavier and larger in general. In the end I decided it didn't make sense to keep both since they were in the same focal range. I sold the Leica in favor of the consistent 2.8 aperture.

[@glsracer]

@@carriestarscapemedia yeah, I really like the zoom range of the Leica 12-60 but the fact that it starts closing down as soon as you move past 12 mm is a bit annoying in low light situations. I guess it depends on when and what you shoot. I do more shots outdoors and having the 120 mm long end has been super valuable on many occasions. If I did more weddings and indoor events then the 12-35 f/2.8 would be a no brainer.

[@carriestarscapemedia]

glsracer yeah the range of the 12-60 is nice! I opted to get the 35-100 when I sold it though, so it was a roughly “fair trade” for more reach.

[@glsracer]

@@carriestarscapemedia yeah if you can have both the 12-35 and 35-100 f/2.8 then there's not much of a compromise.

[@andrecanis4894]

Since you were talking about the firmware, do you know if it is possible to update these lenses on an Olympus body or does it only work with Lumix bodies?

[@alexwade9921]

Andre Canis - Yes. Olympus update allows you to update a Panny lens on an Olympus body. I have only an Oly camera at the moment but a big old mixture of both for lenses. I’ve updated all just fine when I’ve checked for updates.

[@hansoberdiek8319]

Thanks for the reassurance!!

[@Steve-jl8pq]

every time I go on ebay the prices for the 12 -35 are crazy, I have tried a few lenses, but my fav is the 12 60 3.5 5.6, would I notice better quality images if I changed to a 12-35

[@MicroFourNerds]

Low light for sure, but only jump if you get one at a good price!

[@Steve-jl8pq]

@@MicroFourNerds thanks for the reply, I am starting to do video and the constant appature attacted me to it, whats your view on the 12 60 Leica lens, saw a preview of that new 10 25 leica f1.8 loved it until I saw the cost of nearly 2 grand

[@makelifememorable4529]

Steve the 10-25 is the dream! IF you have enough prime lenses to sell to justify it !

[@Steve-jl8pq]

@@makelifememorable4529when I saw the video I fell in love with I and kept thinking to myself please be under £1000 or maybe £1200 quid, but it look incredible

[@focusbyfive7475]

Hey, nice vid! Here's my predicament. I want one of either this lens or the sigma 18-35 (heard its a popular choice). I already have the 25mm 1.7. I don't have a gimbal so ideally the 12-35 would be ideal but I like the sharpness of the 18-35 and the lowlight performance. How is the 12-35 in low light and for stills?

[@MicroFourNerds]

It isn’t quite as fast as the sigma, though you will need a speed booster to make the sigma work which will add to the cost significantly and the overall weight and size of the sigma plus speed booster is massive! It won’t even fit on most gimbals because it is so front heavy.

[@emudojo]

I wonder what's the best move here I own the 12mm 2.0 samyang and the 25mm 1.7 from panasonic, will it be worth picking the 12-35 to replace those two?, both of mine are brighter but together very heavy, thoughts ?

[@martingreenberg870]

For me it isn’t an either or question. Fundamentally a zoom and prime are different animals. When I go out to shoot I typically bring both a prime and zoom. My suggestion is keep the primes and buy the zoom. Easy for me to spend your money. Cheers. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@stevengoossen6019]

Speaking of bargains.... I bought a GX8 when they came out. Now it’s discovered it has a “problem” should I upgrade to a GX9?

[@martingreenberg870]

Four years to answer your question is a long time. I own both the GX8 and GX9. First of all, the GX9 is an upgrade from the GX7 and in Japan is marketed as the GX7Miii. The GX8 problem you elude to is probably shutter shock. LUMIX did a software fix. At certain shutter speeds the body automatically uses the electronic shutter. The GX9 is a little smaller and noticeably lighter than the GX8. It isn’t weather sealed nor have a microphone jac like the GX8. I love the GX9 so much I bought a 2nd body. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@ChichiKay]

what lens do you use for recording your youtube videos. and if its pricey do you know a budget lens that works? i use gx85

[@MicroFourNerds]

I use the lumix 25mm f1.4 which is a bit pricey, but there is also a 25mm f1.7 which is much more affordable and very good too 😊

[@ChichiKay]

@@MicroFourNerds thanks

[@jan-k7x1c]

I just bought a used 12-35 2.8 II because I thought it looked prettier 🥺I got it for 450 though, so I still think it's a bargain :)

[@MicroFourNerds]

Bargain!!!!!

[@jessestarks3128]

They MkII lenses are on my wishlist. Despite the difference in price, I'd rather buy new than 2nd hand,

[@ryanthomas9306]

The 12-35 ii wasnt as sharp as my Fuji kit lens.

[@MicroFourNerds]

I really need to try some Fuji stuff I looks absolutely awesome

[@ryanthomas9306]

@@MicroFourNerds what's weird is the 12-35 wasnt that much better than the stock 12-60 lens. Besides the aperture difference, I couldnt really tell a difference. Even the color and contrast remained. If you try Fuji, I highly recommend the 35 f2.

[@lfcmarkeb7124]

but the MK2 goes up to 11

[@juliancantillo97]

12-35 where i live is fuckinggggggggggggggggg expensive and you cant even get it used so... (for now i have to stay on viltrox+ canon glass)

[@yomentsmedia]

Which camera body were you using to shoot the pics?

[@MicroFourNerds]

I’m afraid all these were over a 2 year period so it’s a mixture of the Lumix g7 Lumix gx80 Lumix gh5 Olympus Pen F

[@MicroFourNerds]

The weddings were g7 and gh5. I usually have the 35-100mm on the g7 and the 12-35mm on the gh5 😊 I love that so many of my photos are taken on the wee g7 it’s a little beast!

[@yomentsmedia]

@@MicroFourNerds Very interesting combo. Your photos are amazing!

[@M1LIFECREATIVE]

yer i have the mark 2. never used the mark 1 tbh. it's amazing, a great all rounder. If i could only have 1 lens this would be it :) practising with the 12mm Leica 1.4 at the moment. liking it so far :)

[@MicroFourNerds]

Such a good combo 😁

[@jacksp8de]

No bargains on Ebay, people mustve seen this video lol

[@DarkTrapStudio]

2024, mark II still 800$

[@jonhermannsson9231]

they are awesome

[@mac22sailor20]

American football?the London game I guess

[@MicroFourNerds]

Yeah we have season passes. I’m hoping to get to Seattle next year and watch one properly

[@mac22sailor20]

@@MicroFourNerds very cool

[@akashs.u3853]

Can you send me a cheap prime lens that you don't use like meike 25 or 35 please I really need one but cannot afford it 🙂 I hope you understand

[@moeshickenyay]

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