Lumix G9 White Balance AWB AWBc [CC]

[@heinihefti8969]

I have a G9 and I'm a huge fan of your channel. Your videos are factual, but very helpful. I really appreciate it.

[@ImageMaven]

Great to hear! I'm so happy my teaching style resonates with you. Take care Heini.

[@Albanez39]

RAW video exists and is pretty common in cine cameras. The BlackMagic pocket cameras can shoot in RAW, and now the S1H will also be able to do ProRes RAW...an efficient compression method for RAW footage.

[@ImageMaven]

Thanks for adding this.

[@Albanez39]

@@ImageMaven Video is basically a sequence of still photographs, and the same rules apply to both audio and video when it comes to either a film camera or a digital camera. RAW files are today what photographic film used to be until a few decades ago. A format that needs to be processed, edited, and transformed into a printable or uploadable format :P Sensors create images and videos the same way, it's the software image processor that works on them differently. Videos must be processed, encoded and packaged into a format that conserves most of the quality while shrinking the file size as much as possible. Having 100% uncompressed RAW video is extremely inconvenient, slow and storage-consuming. Even if it's possible, most cameras create RAW footage by using lossless compression, or even high quality lossy compression. The same happens with images...they must be processed and packaged into the RAW file format our camera uses. The important thing is keeping all the settings accessible for precision editing on a more powerful machine (a computer). There are also different codecs or methods to produce RAW footage; One of the most simple methods is DNG files. The camera captures 24 stills every second, and doesn't even bother creating a video file. On the memory card, you end up with 24 RAW photos for every second of footage...needless to say, this is inconvenient and results in immense file sizes. Hasselblad medium format cameras use this method, and their message is clear: This is a stills camera, if you want video, you have to compile it yourself. Different brands have created their own method for RAW video. I don't know myself the science behind it and how they compile every frame through the Bayer filter, but Blackmagic has its own system and allows for different levels of compressed RAW footage (to save storage space). Sony, Arri, RED and most other manufacturers do the same with their own RAW processes. Last year, Apple was able to create ProRes RAW, a new and very efficient method to compress and encode RAW footage, while keeping the file sizes small and easy to decode (even mediocre computers can edit without lagging); The biggest blockbusters don't use 100% RAW footage, they shoot in compressed RAW and it's still 999x better than the MP4 and MOV files coming out of our small mirrorless cameras. Truth is, JPEG and H.264 are incredibly outdated and inefficient codecs...and that could be solved easily: by just adopting HEIC and HEVC, which are far newer and more advanced codec standards. But that is up to camera manufacturers unfortunately, and most of them are continuing with the old codecs because of consumer ignorance. We want more megapixels, higher resolution, bigger sensors and so on....not realizing that such values are not indicative of higher image quality...not as much as pixel density, pixel quality, bit depth, compression and encoding methods and so on...

[@cameranewb3878]

I learned about the importance of white balance when photographing my Christmas village. The snow looked yellow. I found a better setting that made it white. Think I had it on sunny from my usual outdoor use. Great video

[@ImageMaven]

Yes, indoor lighting tends to be on the warm side. So a daylight setting will add to that. I expect that Tungsten might work better, or AWB. AWB actually works pretty good, especially in mixed lighting situations. Thanks for watching!

[@MagicChinaMan]

Just got my G9 and your videos have been a great help!

[@ImageMaven]

Great to hear! Enjoy your new Lumix!!

[@alexcook4347]

Great info for AWB & AWBC. Just some info though, raw video does exist on a few higher end brands and has for a while. Our Red camera shoots raw video that allows nondestructive WB & ISO adjustments after shooting.

[@ImageMaven]

Thanks for adding that info. Must be huge files for that raw video. But I'm sure the high-end video editors love the flexibility.

[@alexcook4347]

@@ImageMaven Definitely large files! Wonderful to work with though.

[@PencilProper]

Such a great camera. Can't wait for the full frame to be released!

[@ImageMaven]

I'm sticking to the M43. Can't afford the weight on my shoulders, nor the cost! I'm happy with the G9 for a few years yet! Cheers and let me know how you do with the Lumix FF.

[@PencilProper]

@@ImageMaven I'm with you on that. I'll be staying with MFT for cost reasons. Although I would benefit from the low light performance the FF will offer, I just can't justify the cost!

[@ChristiaanRoest79]

I am also sticking with M43. I hardly make photos in low light situations. I used my panasonic gh5 on my safari trip to south africa recently. I made better pictures than my dad with his sony a7r2 and expensive lenses.

[@davidburry1703]

Hi Marlene , I have just bought a g9 and loving your videos so helpful I know I will feel more confident using my g9 after watching your vids cheers Davy Scotland

[@ImageMaven]

Hi David, thanks for stopping by. I hope you enjoy shooting with your G9 as much as I do. Are you new to Lumix as well? Cheers, and let me know how it goes.

[@davidburry1703]

Marlene Hielema Thanks Marlene I had a gx 7 for years then I went to full frame until recently I traded them both in for my g9 from street to landscape now iam enjoying wildlife photography.

[@artjohnson01]

Thanks Marlene. This is an important topic. I once lost a job over bad white balance. It can be tough to fix in post, though Final Cut Pro does a good job. I learned the hard way. Best solution is good WB from the beginning. AWB does not always do the job. Custom WB w/white card is the best. Good of you to cover this topic so comprehensively. Happy New Year!

[@ImageMaven]

Happy New Year to you too, Art! Yes, I'm a WB fanatic. Just saves so much time in post. I find that FCPX has a steep learning curve with colour grading though, so I try to avoid it by shooting better video. Cheers!

[@MixiMera]

Thanks Marlene for showing that AWB is actually acceptable. For Raw photography you don’t need to worry about it, but for video and jpeg you do. But my question is: isn’t there a time you need to consider and if so how long is it? I got the feeling that AWB needs to slowly adopt to your environment. So if you shoot too quickly you are going to get a bad adaption of the light in your shot, right? I got a G9 and a LX100 and I wish the LX had a slider for AWB/Indoor/Outdoor/My setting, so I could use it more efficiently. Well I suppose I’d like the ISO to be there on a knob too.

[@ImageMaven]

Hi Claes, AWB does not need extra time to calculate. And remember it's not a brightness/light thing, it's a colour thing. That's for every camera, not just your Lumix. If you have a cell phone, put it into video mode, but don't shoot. Just move it around to different colours in a room. Try moving from warm to cool colours and see how that changes the colour of your scene. Do this with your Lumix camera too. It should work in photo and video mode - even if you're not actually taking photos. But if you take photos the effect will be instant. Hope that helps.

[@RichardHasselbach]

I'm a new Lumix use and you were terrific - thanks so much for making a confusing issue very understandable. You're a great teacher!

[@ImageMaven]

Wow, thank you Richard. You made my day. Thanks for stopping by to check out my videos. Hope you and your family are staying safe and healthy.

[@RichardHasselbach]

@@ImageMaven Thanks so much, stay self yourself and God bless. I will be a frequent visitor to your teaching now that I have subscribed.

[@JoergenKHKnudsen]

Thank you. Just the information I was looking for. I appreciate your educational videos.

[@ImageMaven]

Hi Jørgen, Great to hear this. I appreciate you watching. :)

[@laurentyarp514]

I have been wondering what that AWBc setting was. I could have looked into the manual but there so many more information and demonstration here. Thank you.

[@ImageMaven]

Hi Laurent. Thank you for watching. I know that reading a camera manual is not much fun - even for me. So I try to make videos about some of the things people might miss, and have some fun along the way.

[@laurentyarp514]

@@ImageMaven Sure it is much more enjoyable to watch a video. And also easier to understand with the illustrated samples you provide. I tried to read the manual but gave up. I purchased a book about the G9 settings "The panasonic g9 menu system simplified" by David Thorpe. It is an ordered enumeration of the menu with detailed explanation on the most important ones. I don't recall what he wrote about the WB settings :)

[@cmoore7723]

I shoot commercial product photography and color accuracy is often critical. I just purchased the Lumix G9 and have been watching your channel with great interest. I have to say that I was dissapointed that you didn't demonstrate the process for setting a custom white balance under studio conditions in you white balance video. Otherwise I'm finding your videos extremely helpful. Thanks for provide such great content.

[@ImageMaven]

Hi Christopher. I made a video on that topic about a year ago. Have a look. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHq2pXx_fL54kLs Thanks for stopping by. I hope you enjoy your G9 as much as I do!

[@cmoore7723]

Thanks so much for the promptness of your response. I look forward to viewing the video you did earlier that you sent the link for. Thanks again for great content.@@ImageMaven

[@JousefM]

Hey Marlene, thanks for your video! I am in video mode and somehow cannot access these WB settings, am I doing something wrong here?

[@ImageMaven]

You must have something else set that disables WB or you're in iA mode. Hard for me to diagnose, but just make sure you're in Creative Video Mode. And then choose (A, S, P or M) as your exposure mode. Then you can set both ISO and WB. In WB you can choose AWB.

[@mikekay6288]

Thanks, as always, for your tutorials using the G9. It's 30 degrees here in Oz with clear blue skies; so I guess its 'sunny' or AWB in white balance. Look forward to further useful tutorials in 2019. Take care on those skateboards. Mike in Oz

[@ImageMaven]

You got it! Lucky you to have sunny and 30! Here it’s -13c and clear as we await 2019 which is only 90 minutes away! Happy New Year Mike!

[@Bb4r]

Thank you Marlene. Nice video. I have used only two settings since switching to digital photography; daylight setting when shooting outside and AWB when shooting inside. I will try out the other settings to see what effects appear in my efforts. Again, thank you very much, and Happy New Year to you.

[@ImageMaven]

Great to hear this! Happy New Year to you as well. Cheers!

[@sajjadal-lawati3133]

Hi Thanks for the videos they are inspiring .. i am having problems with noise when shooting sun rise and sunset - only in these timings with my G9 , and advise you can give me on setting or are you going to make separate video on settings during sun rise and sunset subject

[@ImageMaven]

What settings do you have on your noisy sunset photos? And what Mode are you shooting in? P, S, A, M, iA ? Let me know and then I can help you.

[@sajjadal-lawati3133]

@@ImageMaven i Thanks , I shoot A , and SO 100 , 200 , RAW it only happens during sun rise and sunset please help i also tried mechanical shutter as someone suggested

[@ImageMaven]

@@sajjadal-lawati3133 Noise happens with under-exposure and that is common in low light. What f/stop and shutter speed? If you're shooting raw there will be more noise in the preview and you need to remove it in editing/processing. If you shoot jpg, noise is removed in the camera as the camera will process your jpg.

[@kyleledotnet]

For videos, would you recommend AWB or A specific Kelvin set at 5600 for example if I'm doing lots of indoor/outdoor shots at different times of the day all compiled into one video?

[@ImageMaven]

I suggest doing a custom WB in that situation.

[@kyleledotnet]

@@ImageMaven For something more "cinematic" would you recommend 5600 or 3200?

[@ImageMaven]

@@kyleledotnet That's a personal preference. And depends on the mood of your piece. I usually start with Custom WB (using a WB card) and then go from there to set the mood I want. This is different for every piece, so not a question I can answer. That's your creative choice.

[@kyleledotnet]

@@ImageMaven thank you for taking the time to respond!

[@abiliojosesoares7559]

Thanks for your precisions of details, I learned a lot in your video, thanks again.

[@ImageMaven]

Great to hear this. Thank you for watching.

[@michaelhawkins1173]

Terrific video as always demonstrated clearly. Thank you very much just great.

[@ImageMaven]

Great to hear this resonated with you Michael. Happy New Year.

[@jettysplash]

Thank you Marlene.

[@1955mlynch]

Nice Video. I shoot with Olympus M43, and have been looking at the G9. Doesn't the G9 have any setting for florescent WB ?

[@ImageMaven]

There are so many variations of Florescent now (CFL included), and also LED that you can just set the camera on the colour temperature of any given bulb. Most CFL and LED bulbs are stamped with the colour temp. Not that they are 100% accurate but better than nothing. I'd put my money on AWB if I didn't know. In my testing, the Lumix cameras do a fantastic job of AWB.

[@kennynvake4hve584]

Strange my Lumix FZ70 dont have tungsten white balance.

[@ImageMaven]

Not many of those old Edison style light bulbs left in people’s houses anymore. Pity as the quality of light is beautiful. But the film industry still uses tungsten lighting, as well as some classic photo studios and schools of photography.

[@miavonni]

Love your content, recent G9 convert!

[@ImageMaven]

Enjoy the camera! Thanks for stopping by.

[@13soxs]

Happy & Prosperous New Year 2019, from France...

[@ImageMaven]

Thank you Jon! Same to you!

[@geriesandmann4485]

Hi Marlene...first of all I wish you a very Happy New Year and all the good things for the future. Thanks for this nice video. May I ask what videosoftware you use for your video’s? 🍀Gerie

[@ImageMaven]

Happy New Year to you too Gerie! I use Final Cut Pro for my video editing. And I use Camtasia for any screen capture videos, like software demonstrations. All the best in 2019!

[@DaddyyCrab]

Very helpful. Thank you

[@ImageMaven]

Glad it was helpful! And thank you for letting me know!

[@mauricelamain1978]

great video, and nice lightning in your video!

[@ImageMaven]

Happy to hear this! Cheers.

[@marc6652]

Great knowledge. Great explanations. All in all, great video. Thanks.

[@ImageMaven]

Thank you so much for watching. :)

[@raffaeleveneri2139]

Hi, very nice video! I own a G80 and I am filming stage shows like ballet and other stuff. I would like to make a step forward. and I am thinking about the G9. Is this camera much better in both, video and photo, compared to the G80? And also, is with the G9 possible to modify/adjust the Kelvin color temperature while filming? With the G80 I can do it only when the camera is in standby/pause, but not possible during the shooting :( Thanks in advance and look forward to new interesting stuff :)

[@ImageMaven]

Hi Raffaele, Well this is a first! I didn't think it would be possible, but YES, you can change the Kelvin Colour Temp while filming with the G9. I just did some tests. As far as a better video camera, you might want to look into the Lumix GH6, which has just been released. It's great for photos too. The G9 is priced to sell right now though, as it's already 5 years old. So if you're on a budget you could definitely use that, and it will be a step up from the G80. Hope that helps and thank for your interesting question.

[@raffaeleveneri2139]

@@ImageMaven Hi Marlene, thanks a lot for the info! I am glad to know this feature is there :) About the GH6, yes, that would be probably the best upgrade, especially for video. But I am not sure I can afford it right now, so.... the G9 would be much better in price. Or eventually a GH5II!? I found one of it here in Italy, in a store...they sell it for 1.790€ and it is their test camera for customers (they say just 30 photos made!). Maybe the best deal right now? Thanks again for your reply! Wishing you and all the best.

[@ImageMaven]

Maybe the store will lend or rent you the GH5II so you can try it out before dropping your hard-earned money on it. Because it's a lot of money, even at that price. And you want to be sure of it. It's also a bit of a learning curve going from a hybrid camera like the G80 or G9 to a more video oriented camera. As I'm a photographer mostly, I tend to stick to the photo-type cameras that can shoot video too. For my KZbin videos the G9 and G100 are good enough. But if your end goal is to become a professional videographer, then you definitely want to educate yourself on the best gear for that. But I say, try out that GH5 first and that might help you decide. All the best with your research!

[@ericnieucel5441]

Thank you... As usual your videos are very interesting ans very pleasant tout see. Eric

[@ImageMaven]

Thanks for watching and letting me know, Eric.

[@jettysplash]

Great advice on shooting video. Coincidentally it was my plan anyway to learn how to shoot photographs first. I lucked out!

[@tysondaniel2419]

A trick : watch series at Kaldrostream. Me and my gf have been using it for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.

[@kabirkhalid2499]

@Tyson Daniel yea, I have been using kaldroStream for years myself :)

[@asakellen3564]

@Tyson Daniel Yup, have been watching on KaldroStream for since december myself =)

[@ufamovie5131]

great job!

[@ImageMaven]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Oske.images]

Hi Marlene. I just bought a GX9. It's a nice enough camera, but Auto White Balance is terrible on it. I have a GX80 that I could put on AWB and it would get the right result around 90% of the time. ( indoors and out). I could generally trust the camera and only have to correct it on occasion. The GX9 AWB however has a very warm look. AWBc isn't much better either, even outdoors on a bright day. It's annoying that they've messed up on something that worked so well. I know I only have to change WB / Kelvin temperature settings but it's an annoyance after only rarely needing to with the GX80. I know the GX9 is a step up in many respects from the GX80, but I'm really irritated by this issue. I feel that AWB is an absolute joke on the GX9.. It's the worst AWB on any camera I've owned, from compacts to my Full frame Canon. I'm wondering about contacting Panasonic. I've pondered on returning it. But I know the camera is good in many other respects..

[@ImageMaven]

Most people don't use AWB, but in the Lumix G9 the firmware update addresses this issue. Check my firmware update video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHOUmKpmqZJ4aKM

[@AmadoWildlifeVideos]

White Balance on my G9 has a slider but no icons, no sun, no cloud, no lightbulb. There’s only a bright RGB symbol on the right, and a washed out RGB symbol on the left, with five possible settings in all. And I don’t know which is which. Please help!

[@ImageMaven]

Are you in iA mode? Or one of the creative filters? Change it to P S A or M and try again.

[@AmadoWildlifeVideos]

Marlene Hielema Hi Marlene, I only use Manual or Manual Video...

[@ImageMaven]

Do you have it on AWB?

[@AmadoWildlifeVideos]

@@ImageMaven How to find that out?

[@ImageMaven]

@@AmadoWildlifeVideos I can only replicate this problem if I have it set onto the creative filters. Those can be set in the M modes.

[@SenseiEli]

I will be more than happy... If next time g85 for Video Blog!! Thank you!

[@ImageMaven]

Hi Eli, I don't own a G85, but the menu on any Lumix camera are very similar so you should be able to figure it out. Have fun experimenting.

[@robinmordasiewicz]

Off topic question: Will the G9 continuous autofocus while connected to an external HDMI device without having to be recording internally ? Although the G85 does clean HDMI output it will not do continuous autofocus unless it is also recording to internal memory. The GH5 will do continuous autofocus without having to be recording to internal storage, which is good for connecting it to external HDMI device for capture/recording/streaming. My question is: Does the G9 behave like the G85 (no continuous autofocus unless recording internal) or does it behave like the GH5 ( continuous autofocus for external HDMI capture ) ?

[@ImageMaven]

Hi Robin, Good question. Let me do a bit of research on that and get back to you.

[@robinmordasiewicz]

@@ImageMaven wow, I always feel like I've met someone famous when a popular youtuber responds to my comments ! #brushwithfame !!!

[@ImageMaven]

Ha, ha. Oh, I'm still just a small KZbinr. If I get 2000 views on my videos I'm happy. Those big stars get 100K views or more but they likely don't have time to respond to comments at that level. Thanks for making my day.

[@northislandnow8858]

Handed my g9 to someone, Now all my white balances are locked out to orange magenta only in all settings. Not to mention now my picture profile is locked. Fixed it by reseting the camera.

[@HenryStradford]

2:27 "wrong" (air quotes ;)

[@wodddj]

yepp, for people using alexa🤪

[@pavelperina7629]

I think that white balance and exposure are very personal things and cameras in last years do somewhat good job in guessing good and pleasant result. For me correct white balance is somewhat problematic. It takes away all the atmosphere of the place and it makes photos somewhat boring and not even natural. In my opinion photos taken in incandescent light or some room with warm colors can and should be somewhat warm. Not completely white and not completely yellow or orange. Of coarse it depends on a subject and portraits are different topic.

[@ImageMaven]

Agree with you there. Neutral isn’t always the nicest colour. Photos of sunsets for example, should be kept warm too. In that case I keep it on Daylight. Thank you for adding to the conversation! Happy New Year.

[@robinmordasiewicz]

Camera Conspiracies sent me.

[@ImageMaven]

I love his channel!

[@PDSLIVEREC]

Good morning ji very nice video

[@ImageMaven]

Thank you for watching :)

[@ChocoLater1]

Good for video. Preserve original color.

[@veganbodybuilding]

I don't know if you can affect white balance, but there is such a thing a RAW video files. A few cameras use them as a recording option these days (if you have the storage!).

[@ImageMaven]

Yes, I've heard that... Thank you for adding that info! I think I'll just stick to "regular" video. I don't shoot video for clients, just my own KZbin and online courses, so I'm not going to go there.... ;) I also know that pro video shooters use v-Log and Cine-D settings when capturing video. Even that is too much editing and color grading for me. It adds too much time and complication to my video workflow. I know it's probably not what a pro video producer would do, but it works for me.