Luigi's Mansion 100% Speedruns are Surprisingly Complex

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Luigi's Mansion 100% is one of the most intriguing speedrun categories I have ever seen. Over the years, it's become increasingly more complex and difficult in regards to routing and new optimizations at the top level.
Editing and Proofreading by: ‪@OfficialGlitchDoctor‬
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[@LunaticJ]

Tracks used: Luigi's Mansion - Mario Super Sluggers Training - Luigi's Mansion Gallery - Luigi's Mansion E. Gadd's Lab - Luigi's Mansion Eerie Staircase - Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Mansion (Exterior) - Luigi's Mansion Foehn - Bomberman Hero Bad Juju in the Bayou 1 - Scooby-Doo Mystery Mayhem Melty Monster Galaxy - Super Mario Galaxy 2 Danger - Luigi's Mansion Rogueport's Sewers - Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Space Storm Galaxy - Super Mario Galaxy 2 Bowser's Lava Lake Keep - Super Mario 3D World E.Gadd's Laboratory - Luigi's Mansion 3 Speed Run - Super Mario Galaxy 2 Staff Credits - Luigi's Mansion

[@MarioSpeedrun123]

Hi

[@BlazingDiancie]

I NEVER thought Id hear Mystery Mayhem music in a video, I love that game

[@alexisroux2448]

another leegee video

[@javen9693]

In the Mario universe, 100g is equivalent to an extra life. At the end of this run, Luigi will outlive all of his friends, family, and enemies by endless millenia. Days will pass for him like seconds. Kingdoms will rise and crumble. Oceans will dry. And eventually, there will be nothing at all... Only Luigi.

[@prexot2341]

no, 100 coins is an extra life, and each coin is 5,000g for some reason, so a 1up is 500,000g. So Luigi only has 200 or so lives.

[@strangevol5264]

If we’re assuming it’s like the Yen, then one coin is $50, thus an extra life is $5,000

[@jochenschmidt9684]

I'd love to see the PAL-version covered and the craziness that is its hidden mansion. I grew up with that version and could honestly not believe at first how imo lackluster the hidden mansion in the other versions seemed in comparison from the perspective of a casual run. The new spawns, flipped layout and tweaks to the bossfights really mix things up a lot.

[@OfficialGlitchDoctor]

I believe they wanted that kind of Hidden Mansion for all versions, but since it was a Gamecube launch title, they simply didn't have time to implement it in the JP and US versions. JP was the first released, and because of that it has even more bugs than US, such as weird audio glitches. (Some songs can occasionally not play.)

[@BirnieMac1]

I only just learned they didn’t get the good hidden mansion Oh man that’s so unfair; the flipped layout messed with the sense of direction a lot and found myself getting lost more in hidden than original as a kid; made the extra encounters and boss twists feel like a newer encounter

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

@@OfficialGlitchDoctorthe other countries did get the hidden mansion in the 3ds remake decades later but without the flipped mansion or luigi riding on his poltergust for boolossus if that counts for anything

[@reddodeado]

​​@@yggdrasilsaltar 3DS Hidden Mansion also doesn't have the more powerful Poltergust, so now you essentially have 1/3 sucking efficiency against bosses compared to GCN Hidden Mansion

[@kaiirunz57]

Fun Fact : Sitting Room Clip is actually not viable in PAL 100% because no mice actually spawn on the second floor where you do it for NTSC! PAL 100% is still completely inbounds and dupeless.

[@WackoMcGoose]

...Oh thank goodness, I assumed 100% meant "collect EVERYTHING there is, and if you boop up a single Portrait Ghost and miss their Large Pearl, instant reset". I guess that would be a Max% run?

[@Bobb11881]

RetroArchive has done what you just described several times.

[@Blazingflare2000]

That run is called something like max% or max money. And those runs are honestly more interesting to me than the imo poorly named 100% runs. Since you have to get every single money spawn, and can't let any of the coins you drop when taking damage despawn or the run is invalidated.

[@aliceyuri]

​@@Blazingflare2000 100% has basically always meant doing what satisfies the games idea of 100% completion vs collecting literally everything possible, donkey kong 64 comes to mind

[@MarioMastar]

@@aliceyuri Does mildly bug me that 100% for DK64 doesn't include collecting all 500 collectable bananas in every level as that's the only thing the game kind of acknolwedges that isn't counted (you can also collect every coin in the game but the game doens't play as special jingle when you do). Though it's not nearly as bad as the DKC Returns and Tropical Freeze definitions of "100%" not including the puzzle pieces..... which makes ZERO sense to me (and according to the speed runners, it's imply because "We don't feel like routing in the puzzle pieces", so 100% is literally just all stages (including K stages) and all Hardmode stages and time trials. Just doing all stages 3 times. One of the stupidest things I've ever seen called "100%". I can forgive the DK64 one, but skipping the puzzle pieces is like skipping the Blue coins in Mario Sunshine 100% and still calling it 100%. Bullsh8t.

[@aliceyuri]

@@MarioMastar kinda aids my point that's its always been a kinda arbitrary definition within games themselves tbf, even tho it does come across kinda bullshit

[@MaxAutoAttack]

They're called "Neverdoors" because they always clip through the wall instead of using the door

[@callmetefa7871]

I have the theory that the programmers had a mistake when putting the value of red diamonds. I still can't believe one of them has the same value as a coin, considering that there are only 2 in the whole game and one belongs to the final boss.

[@TililioChaosLord]

I think it's planned : King Boo Crown is then implied to be fake / valueless

[@Dutchsnake5]

My best guess is that the developers used a base class for all the treasure items in the game. What this means is that all the treasure in the game inherent, or take their values, from a predefined class with its own values, that can then be modified for each object that is defined using it. The coin is most likely the base class, and has a value of 5000 for the treasure value. Thus, likely when the developers made the red diamond, they forgot to change the value predefined by the coin class, which means it will default to 5000. It’s the most likely oversight as it would be a very easy mistake to make, especially when you have so many other child classes of the coin class (pearls, gems, etc.)

[@williamdrum9899]

I assumed it was a joke, like "fool's gold" or something. Since a diamond with impurities is considered less valuable

[@Kirbyfan86_27]

8:18 I absolutely love this edit, hilarious! And neat video, keep up the good work!

[@OfficialGlitchDoctor]

I was laughing when making this. Thank you! -The Editor

[@Kirbyfan86_27]

@@OfficialGlitchDoctor you’re welcome and fantastic job with editing it!

[@nicholaslogan6840]

I feel like I've never heard of this channel but it seems like the kind of thing I'd be into and I am already subscribed so

[@LunaticJ]

Welcome back!

[@bes03c]

Me too. I went to sub but was already subbed

[@camwyn256]

Huh. Opposite for me. I'm familiar with the channel and thought I was subscribed. Your comment made me check. I was not subscribed

[@AkumuVids]

Same here, actually.

[@HypeBoyNic]

Don't worry everyone. I'm here to say that the subscribe button is ready for me and I'm smacking it

[@MarioSMG64]

Your Luigi’s Mansion videos are some of my favorite speed running videos! Excited for this one.

[@RedsMSR]

10:17 THERE I AM GARY

[@katieosadczuk4170]

Watching this at four in the morning and you said they used a mouse and I was like that’s not how Gameboys work. This is why sleep is important

[@sheebiedeebie]

Omg a twitch streamer I watch played Luigi’s mansion for Halloween and kept saying “bro HOW do the speed runners do it like what is the strat” and it made me want to go rewatch your other video for the 3rd time… and all of the sudden just now I see a new one??? Excited to strap in for this one

[@kaiirunz57]

A small group of top LM runners did look into skipping the plant Gold Diamond RTA just a few months back...and to put it bluntly, we decided to assume you dupe EVERY large pearl. 38 large pearls. And EVEN with this consideration, before even the end of A2, we lose all the time we save from this potential route due to what else you have to go out of the way for. That being said, if we get more consistent with mouse skews, there is definitely some stuff we could get away with on a smaller scale that could save time. It IS possible to skew and skip through the A3 shortcut door right after water rather than even doing the chauncey chest out of bounds route. There is also A LOT of back tracking in this game, especially in A4. Maybe in the future mouse clips could be used to eliminate this backtracking (and it already has been!) In All Boos and All Portraits, which uses the Out of Bounds route from the TAS in RTA (because money isn't needed), we used to use the chest to clip out. Snap being the legend he is decided to perform the any% skew and clip in BOTH records, so he could skip backtracking to the A1 rooms, neville, lydia, and chauncey. Rather, he visits them only once. And in All Portraits, he then does Sitting Room Clip on TOP of that any% skew, possibly the only run done so far using both of these mice tricks. To put it simply, the future of this game for any category that doesn't specify No OoB is abusing 3 to 4 mouse skews a run. It will happen eventually. Snap isn't the only one grinding these mouse skews in runs now. Me, Jovin, HD, even Mak have begun to grind these mouse clips out. Let's see how this and other categories progress!

[@phineas81707]

It's a testament to how much money 20M is that the plant Gold Diamond- which looks obviously and blatantly like "this is something a speedrunner should've figured out how to skip by now"- carries the route so hard. I'd sooner see a glitch that allows you to trick the plant into thinking it's ready to produce the Gold Diamond in fewer visits.

[@kaiirunz57]

@@phineas81707 The plant doesn't even EXIST when the mansion is in an Area 1 state, and doing the Out of Bounds route the TAS does actually skips bogmire temporarily to abuse a wrong warp, so you end up doing Boolossus first. So the game goes from A2 --> A4 in one boss fight, and that makes the plant literally dead because it thinks you skipped the plant in A3. Manipping this plant would be crazy.

[@phineas81707]

@@kaiirunz57 The most realistic guess I have is that the plant is sufficiently loaded while you are in whatever room is to its immediate right to water it (I *believe* it's the Billiard's Room, but it's been some time since I've considered the LM floor plan.) The least realistic is that you could somehow water one of the plants out-of-sequence by finding where the actor for the plant is stored when it's not in use (a lot of games like to hide such actors several hundred/thousand units out of frame, not that I think LM is otherwise one of them).

[@Eidenhoek]

@@phineas81707 I'm not doing a Luigi blj in the corner of a room for 3 hours

[@phineas81707]

@@Eidenhoek I was more thinking you could stick the Poltergust's nozzle slightly through some geometry in the wall, spray, and the water would go through the wall and touch the plant on the other side. ...Although running at a table for so long the game just clips you sounds more reasonable than it looks.

[@AngelofGrace96]

lmao I spent the first half of the video going 'huh, I swear diamonds weren't that rare, but it's been a while since I played, so maybe I can't remember that well'. Then the reveal hit. I'm from Australia

[@LunaticJ]

Lmao

[@alexanderharrison7421]

Ive always thought 100% should mean collecting all Gemstones, Speedy Spirits, and Gold Mice, along with the other requirements Its still not asking to be Max%, but it feels like a significant amount of the secrets are just completely skipped over because you "already have enough money for the A Rank Mansion"

[@italixprod]

Wow. I've always loved these speedrun videos you make; always very well made, always very well researched, just all around great. I've made a documentary before, I know how much it takes to make them, and even if this isn't considered a real "documentary", it's in the same category for me. Great job on this.

[@TyrantOfNerds]

This was amazing. The more I learn about speed runs for ANY game I am impressed. I will 100% be checking out your other videos

[@Team_Orchid]

Man, I haven't heard Mario's "Mamamia!" get censored into a swear for actual decades.

[@DBR9009]

7:13 starts one of the best N64 soundtrack hits of all time. Bomberman Hero - Foehn

[@RandoManFPV]

16:38 that song. That sound.

[@dio5735]

fun fact: there’s a glitch where you can get the foyer lit without talking to toad, exclusively to area 2 if you go past area 2 then it won’t work. when you get 5 boos, you go to the bathroom, get the key and talk to that toad to make the bathroom lit. when you teleport via game boy horror at the mirror, for some odd reason the foyer gets lit. its a glitch that no one really seems to know about and its pretty convenient, but if you talk to toad while the room is lit, he will still have his crying dialogue which is pretty weird to see him cry in a lit room

[@thatkidkim]

Kaii rly wanting that pal hundo vid LMAO but this is sick coming into the LTA

[@OfficialGlitchDoctor]

Happy November-ween 🎃🦃

[@VoltBandit]

Merry Christmas 🎄🎅

[@dargon_]

Happy New Year 🎉🎇

[@NimboJimbo]

Amazing video! I haven't kept up with LM speedrun meta in years and this was a very good watch.

[@spikitou2231]

Great video as always! I would really like to see a video about the PAL version of the game :) (or more Luigi's Mansion content in general. Love that game)

[@Don-Keedik]

I remember watching my older brother play this game all the time when i was a kid, hearing luigi say "maaarioo" will live in my head forever 😅

[@MegaCdjohnson]

I love Luigi’s mansion so much and I was just watching the video from a year ago and seen this just got uploaded, god bless 😮‍💨

[@1un4cy]

Man back when I was a kid I thought the mansion was based on how many replays you did. I'd get as much cash as I could every time but each subsequent playthrough would get 1 rank higher of a house.

[@TheMine2001]

Babe wake up, new Lunatic vid just dropped

[@Endyh]

I picked up this game over the past few months and have blasted through the leaderboards. I love this game so much it was a childhood game and I speedran it a bit in high school but just not to this extent.

[@HAbeEeb_The_Plush_Guy]

as a kid in europe and still playing the pal hidden mansion, i gotta say that i DEFINITELY switched to the normal mansion in parts to make progression without seriously damaging my health then i switched back to the hidden mansion for portraits and mice. I recently 100 percented the pal version, and it took about 6 or 7 tries. For the average joe, it is NOT EASY. So, for any NTSC players who are looking to get a copy of the pal version. Good luck, you'll need it

[@Cameo221]

I appreciate the Mystery Mayhem music, I love that one haha. Has close parallels to Luigi's mansion

[@astrid9920]

2:44 i was hoping this clip was here

[@LunaticJ]

GOLD DIAMOND!!

[@neilwinter9862]

Damn it, this was so close to Halloween!

[@icecreamget]

Owen Wilson was like "wow" when he saw this vid

[@TeraunceFoaloke]

Pal 100% definitely seems more interesting because of how much more of the game you have to do.

[@nobodyinparticular9640]

With all this focus on money, you'd think this would be a Wario game, ahah Interesting video and watch 👍

[@SamelloTM]

This is the first time im seeing anything oh here and i like it ❤

[@wesdogg_]

I'm so happy you promoted the LTA. i watched this video as quick homework for the event itself!

[@wolizuka]

PAL gamecube games aren't locked at 50Hz, that was only up until the N64. EU got 60Hz games with the GC release

[@woobgamer5210]

yeah, it was only still an option in gamecube's menu and the wii's due to not everyone have a 60 hz tv at the time (we were still a bit away from going to full digital TVs away from analogue TVs)

[@Diddy64wii]

Yeah, Europe got some games with a 60Hz option during the GameCube era...but Luigi's Mansion wasn't one of them. It was 50Hz-only.

[@penguinsmovies]

Still to this day I think about why are coins the main currency of the Mushroom Kingdom when there are bills you try carrying around a bag full of gold coins and see if your pants stay up😂

[@ptldomofficial5074]

7:10 I haven’t heard this song since bomberman 💀

[@TadofSalt]

fire video

[@Reaction_Image_Factory]

Excellent choice of scooby-doo music there in the middle

[@hoplabobla]

This is cool 😁

[@AkiDave]

RNG keeps me awake at night whenever I plan to stream Resident Evil LMAO

[@KoffeeB]

Especially the third one where you can easily softlock a 100% if you don't do everything with Toad when on the floor

[@Rainbowmon]

~8:18 Is that Scooby-Doo Mystery Mayhem's music?!?!?!

[@howdenking]

I'd love to see the PAL version covered. Especially to double check if the game is actually just slowed like you claim or if it's running properly (but at less fps).

[@PlasmaStar-me1hq]

I'm Always interested in learning more about the PAL version!

[@TrefleeFL]

I am European, so naturally, I only got to know the PAL Luigi's Mansion version. Back then, I wasn't aware you couldn't get A rank in the normal mansion, so I spent countless hours trying to optimize something impossible. xD I don't know if it's the same for NTSC, but PAL's hidden mansion is brutal ! Rooms have more ghosts, they hit harder, there are less hearts, and the Blackout section is a nightmare. I never played it much because of that.

[@williamdrum9899]

NTSC hidden mansion was barely different from the original. The devs didn't have time to finish it

[@custardgannet4836]

Big ups

[@NintenRob]

Definitely interested in pal video. That's the version I grew up playing

[@redblackgaming]

Babe wake up, the new LunaticJ dropped 🗣️ 💯

[@machinistbay]

nice eerie staircase on the mention of rng

[@Uhhhh_uhhh]

I just recently did the 100% pal hidden mansion it's quite the trip

[@TheJoshWooly]

When he says that PAL running 50fps slows down the game is that actually true like all the calculations of the game are slower, luigi walks slower and vacuums slower or is it just that you have less time to react to things? I know playing 50 feels worse than 60 but I dont understand how it would be significantly slower

[@isneezelightning]

Would LOVE to see something going over the PAL ver!

[@Goudlock]

and in casual, the PAL version is way better it's not "just" reverse haha. Especially the book fight while riding the vacuum xD

[@alphabitserial]

I'd love to see more on the PAL version

[@z.d.8986]

You started talking about the PAL version and my interest skyrocketed. Than you did your outfit and I’m now upset But shit. That’s a lot for Luigi’s big fancy mansion

[@NineQuestionMarks]

Honestly I'm interested in hearing how 100% PAL speedruns are. They sound interesting, to say the least.

[@ryanwysocki7615]

music at 8:13 from scooby doo mystery mayhem is fire!

[@Kyouko1269]

Would like to see the PAL vid!

[@7eonardo2]

That Bomberman Hero Music

[@wakko1337]

8:40 I'm jealous, my vacuum hitbox is also between my legs but it's not big enough to overlap with my main hitbox 😢

[@fischer-8027]

please do an OOT 100% video, featuring the allmighty ZFG!

[@melskunk]

I absolutely want to see Pal 100%!

[@DillonMinasian]

happy halloween!!

[@DomyTheMad420]

it's funny how i grew up with PAL Luigi's Mansion and simply cannot comprehend what everyone's so worked up about if a child can do it..

[@rockhoggaming]

that reminded me of hearing that the youngest (at the time, her little brother wasn't born yet) of my neighbor's family was really freaking good at temple run.. i forgot how old she was back then since its almost been 2 decades but it hadn't been that long since she was in diapers and i feel like such a boomer saying this but i was young back then so time didnt really fly by the way it does now. im a pathetic lazy loser with no life of any type (work, social, s*x etc.) still living with my mom just playing on my computer 24/7 so to me it feels like time just flies by fast af. months and even entire years just come and go so quickly and its just so weird.. for example a manhwa i read called jungle juice suddenly stopped receiving new chapters with the latest being uploaded august 1st and even after a few months had passed it still didn't feel like it had been that long since they last released a chapter..

[@xliltracex2]

Gud video

[@sahilhossian8212]

Lore of Luigi's Mansion 100% Speedruns are Surprisingly Complex momentum 100

[@Surge_N_Destroy]

Is the luigis mansion 3ds hidden mansion route the same as japanese version luigis mansion gamecube version.

[@timephire]

[50 Cent - I Get Money]

[@Blazingflare2000]

Irrelevant to the video, but I honestly feel like 100% really isn't a good name for the speedrun category, since there's very little in the game you actually have to 100% for the run. It really should just be called "A Rank - All Unique Ghosts" since that's all that you actually have to get. I would personally really only call a run 100% if they get A Rank, all gold portraits, all boos, all keys, all possible rooms cleared, and *maybe* all gems.

[@gaier19]

max% ... the rng hell ... even harder in pal! is pearl dup baned in max? or do I can not read the rules right?

[@nnoo]

its called aha because they are laughing at everyone

[@lonelyPorterCH]

Never played it, maybe I should^^

[@facemelt2753]

Please cover PAL

[@TheStickCollector]

Guess it is a good thing I don't do this then? I liked the game (at least enough to beat it multiple times), but this just sounds infuriating.

[@DrPumpkinz]

wait a sec... are you Jasper?

[@fossfeen]

luigi house but it mansion

[@ComfortZoneComic]

5 minutes?

[@PlatinumTales]

When the mystery mayhem music came on I was like YOOOOOO

[@Monolize]

howdy 😋

[@melee9183]

LunaticJ more like LunaticYay another upload

[@kota9087]

Oh my!.... LMAO

[@GelatinCoffee]

this is crazy, i can't believe my eyes! youtube is functional???? fucking blowing my mind, not crying about an imaginary ad blocker and making me download every video in 360p from a third party site just for a semi reasonable waiting time to view a single video. then repeating that for every single video i want to watch also the video was nice, i guess. honestly nothing can compare to my excitement over being able to watch youtube normally

[@NEVERDOORS]

if this gets 2 likes I'll TAS PAL max%

[@DarkerStudio-rt6ic]

howdy im fifth

[@BKWalrus]

Hi filth

[@jamesthecool2560]

RNG is annoying I experience RNG in gta online so bad RNG should be in online video games

[@joseordaz1622]

Stretching the screen to fit the HD ratio makes it look like shit

[@longgreasy1595]

First?

[@Silver-Nao]

You probably got bullied as a kid huh?

[@gyroninjamodder]

Why does this video talk about avoiding collectings gems or money. For a 100% speedrun you have to collect everything. This video seems to be more about an A rank speedrun.

[@OfficialGlitchDoctor]

So the speedrun community is a bit different with how it words things. We call an A Rank speedrun "100%", as by definition, the game doesn't give you anything else special upon collecting every bit of money there possibly is. 100% being that there's nothing else to do in the game that will reward you in some way. (i.e. Super Mario Sunshine's "Have a Relaxing Vacation!" upon collecting 120 Shines.) Collecting 100 million grants you an A Rank, which is the most reward you're gonna get for getting everything. Now collecting every bit of money in the game is a speedrun category as well, but we call that "Max%".

[@YEs69th420]

Every community defines their own terms. 100% of the money is slow, tedious, and extremely inconsistent and difficult. 100% in terms of achieving all the goals is a better way to look at it.

[@pawel7055]

Dude this video is an assault on people with misophonia. The clock ticking, the trigger slapping sounds with the on screen controller, it's absolutely horrible. It's like you designed it to hurt.

[@Barakalover3]

With all due respect , it’s not his job or responsibility to manage somebody else’s issues.

[@pawel7055]

@@Barakalover3 Did i say it was? I highlighted the complaint. They can consider it or accept the potential loss of a portion of their demographic. That's up to them if they care about their fellow neurodivergents, something like 50% of people with autism suffer from it. It also and more importantly serves as a warning to others with the same issue. Regardless of what they do it's worth saying. So what was the point of you saying this again?

[@Barakalover3]

I already know about it, my best friend is autistic and has issues with repetitive sounds (or just loud in general). Even so, if people take issue with it, they can just as easily click away and do something else. (These are her words, not mine, but I agree with her.) What did you expect though, given the content of this particular video? These are things you’ll hear on 90% of speedrun streamers, you’re going to hear clicks from the controller, it’s inevitable.

[@pawel7055]

@@Barakalover3 so you're saying I dont warn people and don't try to fix this issue and give up entirely without even trying? Wow, you're REALLY bad at giving advice.

[@ClownNaround]

Nah

[@MakusinMeringue]

I love EVERY upload of yours. Honestly, I'd love to see a collab with @tomatoanus one day.

[@stopthecycleofabuse9689]

watching this so i can stop seeing it in my recommended, good luck

[@Alkaris]

In-bounds skew to early rooms not viable in 100%? Never say never, because that will be proven wrong one day. Whenever someone says _"Oh but this will never be viable for X run"_ you don't know that, and quite often always always proven to be wrong later down the road and does become viable for X run.

[@z.d.8986]

You started talking about the PAL version and my interest skyrocketed. Than you did your outfit and I’m now upset But shit. That’s a lot for Luigi’s big fancy mansion