Lutterloh Part 3 - The making of Top number 2 - The highs and lows!

[@cindysparks8209]

Laura with SewVeryEasy did a series I watched awhile back using The Golden Rule System which I believe you mentioned in your first part. I find it fascinating to watch so I love following along with you. I can’t wait for you to get into the newer fashions.

[@socarole66]

Thank you Cindy, I have watched Laura and she did it really well. I managed to cut out a pattern for some trousers the other day so now need to get cracking and make them up. I need some stretch fabric though as I think they are meant to be jeans. That's the one thing I miss, the fabric suggestions bit on a pattern! Thanks so much for watching and I will get that done soon 😊

[@onegirlcreates]

Hi Carole, I've never seen the Lutterloh system before, its really interesting. The concept is a fun one to explore, I will enjoy watching your progression and how you find it. xx

[@socarole66]

Hello again! Yes it is an interesting system and concept. My Mum bought it in the 1970's and made a couple of things then felt guilty for 50 years for not using it hence I am trying it out! It's a learning curve though 🤣

[@bottle-capjack1778]

Enjoying your journey with Lutterloh. I am very fascinated by this form of pattern making. Thank you for sharing.

[@socarole66]

Oh thank you. It is really intriguing how it all works out. I will be making a start on the dress soon. Thanks

[@millie4550]

Again, thank you for this video of your second top. I love the idea of highlighting the hip measurement to help choosing the correct number. I’ll add that note inside my pattern book. Also, I like your small, to the point, direction sheet you made for yourself. Small steps keep you focused and give you permission to take a break when needed and not to get overwhelmed. Great job! I see what you mean with the gap in the front. But with the 2 small darts or gathers, that does solve the issue.

[@socarole66]

Thanks for watching this video. I do like writing down my 'instructions' as I feel then I'm not on my own making it 'willy nilly !! I will forget something I'm sure if I don't write it down. Thanks again and happy sewing 🧵😊

[@tinamurraymakes9502]

Loving the lutterloh adventures :)

[@socarole66]

Oh thank you. I'm not sure how the trousers are going to turn out!! Thanks for watching 😊

[@saleenahaffenden8292]

I am really enjyoing this journey.. I have the system but have never found any decent tutorials or even clues on how to use it until you started showing us what you are doing.. thanks Carole, welldone.

[@socarole66]

Hello there. You are very kind. There are a couple of tutorials out there on KZbin that helped me a little but it really doesn't make much sense until you do it yourself 😂. The first top was more successful I think but mainly because of the style. I'm looking forward to making up one of the new patterns now 👏🏼. Go on, give yours a go!! 😊

[@joycemonty4262]

Hello Carole, I think you did a wonderful job on both tops.

[@socarole66]

Thank you so much. I will be doing another Lutterloh project in the next couple of weeks 👏🏼. Thanks for watching x

[@helganeufeld230]

I am so intrigued by this. Excellent job!

[@socarole66]

It is such a fascinating system and amazed that it is still in production since the 1930's! Glad you are enjoying watching, thank you. 😊

[@lynnries7729]

You may need the high bust measurement for shoulder/neck area. Other sewists who use this system and have full busts do this. Lutterloh used to use high bust and hip measurements, not sure when they switched to full bust measurement. Your idea for small pleats to fix the front gap is brilliant and flattering. I like the idea of the small back shoulder darts as I am slightly round shoulder. All in all...Great Job!

[@socarole66]

Thank you Lynn. If I'm doing a standard big 4 pattern I never have to adjust for anything but you could be right. At least if I do a more recent one I will notice a change. You have a good knowledge of Lutterloh, have you used it often? I was really unsure of those back darts but it stopped it gaping there so I may adopt that in future! Thanks again 😊

[@lynnries7729]

@@socarole66 I've not used this system but am very interested in it so have watched several videos. I use the high bust measurement choosing my size with the Big 4. I'm very narrow through my shoulders with a 'C' cup. I think the 'rule' is 4" (10 cm) difference. Just thought this might work for you to get a better fit through the neck area. Of course, it may just be that particular pattern that is a bit wide. I'm hoping this system is in my future!

[@socarole66]

@@lynnries7729 thank you. I've not even considered the difference before so I'm going to do the measurements as you said. I just normally guess my size and go with it 🤣. That could definitely be my problem with having narrow shoulders. Thanks 😊

[@lynnries7729]

@@socarole66 Your welcome. How fortunate that KZbin has made the world a little smaller and easier to share ideas.

[@tinamurraymakes9502]

I do this! Works brilliantly. Upper bust for measurements from shoulder to mid armscye, full bust from there to waist. I have exactly the same gaping on the neck if not.

[@dianemorrall2687]

Such a fascinating technique. I am enjoying watching you go through the process. I think you should wear the top. I like the idea of the tucks in the front neckline.

[@socarole66]

Hi Diane, thank you. I think the top needed something anyway to make it more interesting! It is a strange process but does seem to work. Glad you are enjoying it 😁

[@janehammond1322]

I’m getting the concept now. This blouse Is cute but I think a couple of pleats in the front neckLine is what I would also try. Looking forward to seeing you do the dress. This is fun.

[@socarole66]

Thank you Jane. I'm looking forward to doing the dress now as more up to date so there maybe reviews out there for it! 😊

[@lorrainewhiting1267]

Very interesting Carole. Never heard of this system before. Looking forward to the next pattern.

[@socarole66]

Hi Lorraine! Interesting is definitely the word and crazy to think it's been going since the 30's!! 🤣. It's got almost sort of addictive 😁🧵. Thanks for your comment. X

[@adnamalb]

Thank you for sharing your journey! I really appreciate seeing the process of using the system.

[@socarole66]

Thank you for watching! I hope you manage to catch up with my other videos and more to come in the New Year. 😁

[@annettecowburn1096]

I think it's fascinating. I hadn't heard of it before but good on you for showcasing it Carole 👍

[@socarole66]

Thank you Annette. I think a lot of people have bought it over the years but not really used it. It does need perseverance and also lots of sewing knowledge! That's my downfall as I just want instructions 🤣.

[@TodayinJensSewingRoom]

It turned out beautifully. I love seeing the process! And if you put the little pleats in the front, it would look intentional. This whole system is so interesing - ❤😘🤗

[@socarole66]

Thank you Jen. I have had some comments about high bust measurements or full bust but that has completely confused me 😆. Surely if I used the wrong one it wouldn't have fitted me?! Pleats are going in to make it look more exciting. Can't wait for you to try the system 👏🏼😆🤪. 🤗

[@kerstinshadbolt1003]

Hi Carole! You top is lovely and you have the 'gappy' neck problem just like me. I solved it by taking my upper bust measurement rather than full bust for the shoulder area.🌷

[@socarole66]

Hi there, thank you so much for your comment. The last couple of makes that I have made from this system I have done exactly that, use the upper bust measurement and that has definitely helped. Thank you for suggesting it. 😊🧵

[@DebsWay]

Well, I think it's just amazing how you make your own pattern plotting out your measurements using that system. I agree with you about the top you just made ... I would put little pleats or gatherings along the front neckline area to tighten it up a bit. I think the dress you're going to work on next is very nice; that's my style of dress for sure! Have a great week!!

[@socarole66]

Hi Deb, yes little pleats will be going in. I knew it wouldn't be the most interesting top but I was doing it for the process really. So excited to start on that dress though as I can see that being very wearable 👏🏼. Hope your week is going well 😁

[@DebsWay]

It's what I would call a "basic top" -- a style that everyone needs in their wardrobe

[@Sewmore]

Yes put a couple pleats at the front top and it will look cute

[@socarole66]

Thanks Jacqueline, the pleats will make it much more interesting won't it. They will be going in!! Thanks for watching. 😊

[@Carmen96029]

I think the pleats on the front would be excellent for fit and for just an added feature 👍 I see you found your nice, flat, pristine pattern paper 😄🤩 Great job, Carole 💞 Look forward to your next Lutterloh project. Oh, and it’s definitely not for me 🙈I’m not even a fan of pdf patterns and just as soon be a spectator. Kudos to you though for sticking it out🙌

[@socarole66]

Glad someone noticed the lovely, smooth paper!! The pleats are definitely needed to jazz it up a bit. Going forward I can see me making the odd thing but oh, opening a pattern envelope is so much easier 😂. You have to be so exact 😫. Still I think the dress will be easier 🤞🏼. Thanks for bearing with me on the rocky road of Lutterloh 😊

[@amme30]

This continues to fascinate me,I wonder how you will find the more modern patterns and I there will be any more direction. Your finishing is impeccable 👌.

[@socarole66]

I am so pleased you are enjoy my rocky road to Lutterloh Land! I am currently finishing over my third garment from the modern book, again there has been trouble along the way but only of my own making! Hopefully I will get the video out by Monday. Thanks again 😊

[@kathleenrueter3142]

Thanks so much for this Lutterloh top!!!!

[@socarole66]

Thanks so much for watching this video. I have just finished another top so watch out for the video which will come out next week! 😊🎄

[@LisaAnnSpencer]

Hi Carole, I find it interesting. I definitely think that it would improve your skills as you are working through the system. Personally, it seems like more work than I am willing to go through unless they had THE perfect pattern that I wanted. I enjoy watching you do all the work though… 😏

[@socarole66]

I have been sewing for about 40 years but I suppose it's not until you come across something like this where you have to start thinking for yourself that you realise how much you know AND need to learn! My Mother made a coat for me from it which must have been very advanced so I'm nowhere near that yet 😆. I'm happy to learn new things though but yes, it is a lot more work than just picking up a pattern! Thanks 😊

[@pinkysfarm461]

Aw bummer about the little front gap but it turned out so pretty!! You look cute in everything though!!!!😍

[@socarole66]

You are so kind birthday girl! Gaps are easily fixed (bodged!!). 😘🥳

[@stillstitchin]

This is so interesting! 😍

[@socarole66]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed me battle along with the system 😁

[@stillstitchin]

@@socarole66 As I watch, I question if I would try it. Probably, if it was given to me, but I doubt I would purchase it. Fun to watch you, though! 😊 I'm concentrating on improving my fitting skills these days, but, for now, I'm altering patterns. Kudos on trying something new. 🏅

[@ZeldaSews]

Carole!!! I Bought It!!! 25% Off 😅😮😅 I think you did a great job on the top! Now you and I will have to do a collaboration next year! I need plenty of time to figure out how to use the system correctly. I promise not to throw this one away.😅

[@ZeldaSews]

Carole, I remember using the paper and trying to stick the pin through my cutting board. what do you use now? How do you pin it?

[@socarole66]

Hi Zelda. My recommendations for you are straight away to get on the Facebook group where there are so many experienced Lutterloh - ites on it who will answer questions and have a list of FAQs. Re the pin, if you check back on my videos especially the earlier ones I explain a bit more how I do them. I generally use a table protector I have, put some selotape over the cross and then put the pin in. Hard to explain, easier to watch some videos! A lot of people use cork backed placemats. Wishing you luck x

[@Sewmore]

The blouse looks nice

[@socarole66]

Thank you 😊.

[@leslietaylor1570]

I’ve seen some people use their upper bust measurement to make upper part like neck or shoulders a little smaller. Might try that for the gaping.

[@socarole66]

Hi Leslie and thanks for watching. I have just done another Lutterloh top in which I did exactly that as it had been suggested to me. It was hard to judge whether it worked as the top wasn't such a fitted one but it definitely didn't do any harm and going forward I will do that again. Thanks so much for taking the time to comment 😊

[@dianecrews6130]

Little darts in the top front and wear it. You did a good job

[@socarole66]

Thank you Diane, yes darts will improve the fit and look more interesting as you say. Looking forward to doing the dress now. Thanks for watching 😊

[@teresam1635]

I tried it Carol but gave up as I found I wasn’t accurate enough, and I still needed to adjust the pattern once drawn. Plus it is hard not knowing the finished garment size and the amount of ease provided. Well done for persevering.

[@socarole66]

You are so right Teresa! I need to be way more exact which I probably would be if not filming it 🤣. It's interesting that you still needed to alter the pattern as that wasn't really the whole Golden Rule concept was it?! Let me see how I go with the dress as that should 🤞🏼be easier!! Thanks 😊

[@bonnihill2334]

I find that the same areas you have to adjust with the Lutterloh System, I have to adjust on any other brand of pattern also. I haven't been able to fit perfectly with any brand since my teenage years.

[@jacquelinepaddock7535]

Try using the high bust on points above arm hole to allow for a fuller bust.

[@socarole66]

Thank you Jacqueline I may try that. Someone else had suggested trying the same thing, I was just following the exact instructions. That's the thing about Lutterloh, they claim you only need to use 2 measurements and it should all work out perfectly, not so sure! Thanks for watching.

[@barbarasack8273]

It makes sense that if you have gapping at the front neckline in most clothes (I do too - maddening!) that you'd have it with Lutterloh, since the system uses the same "dot numbers" for everyone, resulting in a standard pattern at the neck. I have a Lutterloh set I haven't used. I think I'll need to make a test top to adjust for that gapping (narrow shoulders) and also for shoulder slope, then deduct the resulting difference fron the "dot numbers" given.

[@socarole66]

Hello Barbara. As you say that does make sense about the neck gaping, if I have the same issue with the big four patterns, why did I think it would be any different? I hope you have success with the system, next up for me will be a pair of trousers…. Hope they work! Good luck and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, 🌸

[@peggyblackburn9981]

I think putting two pleats in the front neck will look very nice.

[@socarole66]

Thank you Peggy, I know it's kind of a cheats way out but it can look quite pretty. 😊. Thanks for watching.

[@FiberBabble]

The comment about high bust measurement was really interesting. I never would have come up with that, though that's how I have to choose my size for big 4 patterns. The thing that I wonder about is what edge of the measuring tape to use when marking the dots. If you're always using the right edge of the tape, it seems to me that the dots on the left side of the pattern will be off (smaller?) by the width of the tape measure. Does that make sense? Maybe I'm just over thinking it, but WHEN I try my first pattern I may make sure I'm always using the edge of the tape closest to the pattern. Hmmm. Now I need to go back and watch the official video to see what the guy does. I do agree with everyone else - the top is quite cute on you, and a couple of little pleats will make it perfect (and interesting!).

[@socarole66]

Hi there. Your message definitely got me intrigued and I went back and watched Frank doing his video. (I found out he is the same age as me🤣😂). He measures across the full bust so I need to check on that when they changed from high bust and see what I should be doing but having said that, it did fit me across the bust well. Re the tape, really good thought so I looked into that as well. You need to use the left side of the tape next to the holes because that is how it's lined up along the line. If it was the other side then it wouldn't match the line. Also if you covered over the line to use the right side of the tape the numbers wouldn't show. Is this making any sense 😳🤪!! I think having done two patterns now I must have kind of got the hang of it but I need to take more care with measuring clearly. I'd love to hear how you get on 😁. Thanks for your feedback, very helpful 😊

[@bonnihill2334]

You always use the right side of the measuring tape where the pin holes are.

[@FiberBabble]

@@bonnihill2334 Thank you for that. As usual, I was overthinking!

[@abeginnersneedle]

I'm curious - what kind of tracing paper are you working on? It's been a lot of fun watching you work through these patterns and this system!

[@socarole66]

Hi there. The paper was some I ordered from Amazon and I will definitely get some more as it's really good. - Prym Dressmakers Gridded Pattern Paper on a roll. It wasn't cheap though at £15, mind you I have bought the Burda stuff before and that wasn't cheap either! Thanks for watching this series of struggles 😊

[@abeginnersneedle]

@@socarole66 It's been a lot of fun learning about the system, that's for sure!

[@bonnihill2334]

I have the same problem with the upper chest being too wide. Measure your upper chest from under your arms then over and above the bust and then across the back. There are lots of photos on the net. Use that measurement instead of the full bust. Then use your full bust measurement from about where the sleeve notch would be. Some don't change to the full bust measurement until the underarm area. Paper fit yourself or make a muslin. Most likely you will will need to make the same adjustment with most patterns.

[@socarole66]

Thank you Bonni for those suggestions. It's funny really, Lutterloh system prides itself on using only 2 measurements for a perfect fit and that's what I was testing really. Maybe it doesn't suit all and some people do have to tweak the patterns. I will definitely give that a go next time as it was just so big on me and it's not the first time that has been suggested for me. I am enjoying using the system though and love the plotting part! Thanks again for your help 😊

[@WendysCraftDen]

Sorry a question came up. I have a Singer Legacy and am wondering is it worth me getting an over locker also please xx

[@socarole66]

Well, I am not one to encourage anyone to spend money but.... I wouldn't be without an overlocker. This is my second one, I had a basic Janome first then I upgraded to a Babylock about 2 years ago. I use it ALL the time on wovens and knits. Having said that I always use my sewing machine first on seams, then use the overlocker to finish the edges. I use the rolled hem a lot as well to make tablecloths and hem very fine knits. Yes, they can be a pain to thread but with practice it becomes easier. I wouldn't be without one now but there are many sewists that go along quite happily without one. Hope that answers your question?! 😊🧵

[@Richardjaymz]

They sell them on sewing gem uk, they buy in bulk for her Carole .... i've been speaking to her because i wanted some more rulers lol

[@socarole66]

Thanks for your comment and spotting that. I've made a few more since then and have improved greatly! 🧵

[@socarole66]

Thanks for that, I'll pass that information along on my next video. 🧵😊

[@Richardjaymz]

Hey carole i noticed you did something wrong you marked a bust measurement as a hip measurement hun x it was 15 everything on or above the waist ya use BM and everything below is HM ....15 was on the waist measurement not below x

[@normabarrientos3104]

V=back of the sleeve

[@socarole66]

Initially when I read this I panicked but I have just checked the instructions and mine say V =sleeve front. It maybe that they have changed this in further editions. Thank you so much for watching though and taking the time to comment. 😊