Delidding an Intel 13900KS CPU: 10-15c Reduction on Temperatures

[@seandang]

Tips: after delid, use a credit card to roughly remove the indium from the die. With most of the indium residue removed you will need only two applications of the indium removal to completely dissolve what’s left on the die.

[@bravium]

I don't have indium removal, what should i use instead?

[@compuguy123]

@@bravium liquid metal mate that's what it is

[@wwoodsyy]

Would be interested to see the results with a lapped aio!

[@sabishiihito]

Luumi with the immaculate hands, no scars, scratches or cuts 😅

[@achilledepoitiers4462]

Missed out on a fun childhood...

[@ArtFiendz]

I love my 14900k but that boy is HOT. get's up to 85-90 FAST. I have a delid kit coming. I've delided before but never one a CPU that is Soldered so I'm a little nervous but it should be fine. I don't think I'll be lapping simply based off der bauers results but we'll see how it goes. if I got 5 degrees out of it I'd be stoked.

[@Jolinator]

Interesting to see you are on the Apex! What are your thoughts on this compared to the 790 dark?

[@steezegod2768]

Interesting? the Apex uses less voltage. Not really that interesting friend.

[@Jolinator]

@@steezegod2768 You have used both for Memory benching? i have both boards that's not been my experience. VDD2 called MC voltage on Asus boards is external to the CPU. You watched one frame chasers video now you are an expert i see.

[@steezegod2768]

Must be bad at games. smh Benching? No why so I can have the biggest E-Peen on the internet amongst incel nerds? My wife has my 790 Dark, I have a 790 Apex, you're goofy if this excites you. Get a life, go outside, get good at games. I don't watch no damn frame chasers, I play games, 8200cl32, 13900ks, 4090 fe

[@fepethepenguin8287]

​@@Jolinator ;)

[@WilliamHamala-b5z]

Should heat up the CPU with a heat gun around 75c first. it makes a lot easier to delidding the cpu. i did with my 13900KS

[@MSquared06]

I did 1 min with a hair dryer and instead of a pop, you hear a gooey rip from silicone. It was no harder to remove the 13900KS IHS than it was the old i9-7900X IHS.

[@Garrett1974]

You mean the silicone will give way quicker?

[@LATRONNIK]

I had to do this in order to rin this chip maxed out, sadly my bin is dogshit even tho its a KS but still, these chips are way too hot to run stock.

[@Bostonski]

Yea, those intel engineers have have no idea what they doing😂. 🤡

[@NaterFernat]

10:24 Has anyone else tried to put it without the lid as it is here? just the bare processor making contact directly with the heat sink? like a "NO LID"?

[@_nom_]

It's possible now with frame guards

[@B3n85_]

@@_nom_Frame guards? You mean like the Thermal Grizzly?

[@mehck2]

1:25 i wish I knew how big a spoiler this would turn out to be. Cheap thermal paste from china is why ASUS RTX cards are having issues. Imagine making the corporate decision to save like $10000 a year using cheaper thermal paste and face a huge RMA issue

[@rypere1788]

Would be cool to see the total reduction you'd get with delidding, contact frame and lapping using liquid metal throughout. Sort of the max effort a consumer would do vs the bare minimum.

[@darkshadowsx5949]

I was going for that but my 13900k died from delid with no visible reason. no cracks or damage. switched the contact frame for the original ihs and it still wont work.

[@stilllen24]

i never understand why take that long to do and to explane somthing.. in real life this was about 5-15min max of the time ...

[@flavioferreir4]

faltou por metal liquido entre o dissipador do cooler e tampa externa do processador

[@ObviousCough]

I want to run direct die but i keep telling myself i'm going to get a pot and run dice eventually.

[@hayabusaxps]

i actually had to resolve filled liquid metal. place papertowel around the socket, and start drenching the with Isopropyl , combine foam que tips and compressed air(not a can, use a compressor) and the foam que tips you can get into the pins without damage carefully, repeats of comrpessed air and dumping isopropyl alcohol to flush out the liquid metal from the socket, but most can be picked up via the foam que tip.

[@papasmurf5598]

Unless your running Cenebench over and over again or heavy AVX workloads you don’t need to go the this extreme just use a good 360mm in a push pull configuration and playing games is no problem at all.

[@xBINARYGODx]

depends on what clocks you want

[@papasmurf5598]

@@xBINARYGODx The gains in performance isn’t significant enough for me to justify the price and the work and extra maintenance involved in a closed loop system. Also the possible damage due to a leak could destroy the entire system. And if we’re talking about high end expensive components why would I take that chance for a couple of hundred megahertz. If I ever do it I will go ahead and buy myself a Chiller and water block both CPU&GPU. With the Chiller set up your able to maintain ambient temps even when overclocking and running Cenebench. Also you can go Sub Ambient and take the temps down further but have to watch for condensation. Look at this guys set up on KZbin at ( VIDEO CARDZ RULE ) He’s got the Chiller set up running DDR5 8600 Speed Ram with a 13900KS. That’s what I want.😍

[@Typhon888]

With this setup I’ll probably be able to hit 6ghz all core. I have a bad sample 13900k that pulls 450watts max and my cooler can handle that. This KS is much better sample and I will achieve higher clocks at same or lower power.

[@countmorbid3187]

Is it still alive or dies like the others?

[@el_manosanta]

The best!

[@dktha]

Got this CPU at launch but it's been sitting on the shelf due to those crappy thermals. Maybe I'll sell it and buy a 13900KF since it runs a bit cooler without needing to delid. Asus pushes PL1/PL2 to 320W by default and that's because it runs so hot at stock where 13900K at stock is 253W.

[@techbuildspcs]

Undervolt it

[@GewelReal]

F would make no difference. It's the same CPU

[@mayafluck244]

hello Lumi, can I ask how did you paste the his back on the cpu? did you put new silicone?

[@LuumiJuhani]

No I said many times no reglue. Just put the IHS gently on the die and clamp it down.

[@xGentenaar]

i delid my 14600k and temps are exactly the same weird

[@xGentenaar]

maybe its because its not an 'even' 'thin' layer?

[@Person.aMedia]

Can someone tell Me exactly all the parts that come with the Delid/Relid Kit? I can't tell if I need to get glue or whatever to relid.

[@TheMetalmachine467]

Supercool direct die cooler way to go !!!! I also used rocket cool delid tool and used their instructions in the video Heat the ihs for 2 minutes with a heat gun before delid makes it easier. Also goo gone pen for glue on ihs

[@DavidTMSN]

I delided my 10900K and currently run it LM/direct die - it was a bit nerve wrecking but I cannot even imagine doing this chip.

[@OCXChile]

Did you use a heatgun or only Delid Tool and nothing else?

[@DavidTMSN]

@@OCXChile Blow dryer or heat gun and delid tool. Just enough heat to loosen that adhesive before using the tool.

[@MrJunkman1982]

@ 17:30 looks like way too much liquid metal or are my eyes not seeing correctly?

[@Gamingtechgg]

its fine because of the light it looks that way

[@Garrett1974]

@@Gamingtechgg Not that fine... like @MrJunkman1982 said it's too much... you don't need to create 'puddles' of LM... what was on the die was enough for the inside of the IHS as well imo.

[@Kicm2Kicm2]

13900ks

[@lassekristensen385]

Was there not to much LM???? Looks like there was a pool .. It can be dangerous! Did you sand the die to make it perfect even? or went with stock and just clean? I did just clean but regreat I did not check if perfect straight... I might redo it sometime.

[@Gamingtechgg]

Good results

[@ggood003]

I lapped the backside of the IHS on a 10700KF when I wasn't getting good contact after de-lid. Any reason not to do that on 12/13th? I'm gonna de-lid 13900KS soon

[@charonme]

wow that's way too much liquid metal, like maybe 4+ times more

[@GoFasterHD]

Are they making any more 13900KS? I can not find one anywhere but ebay and I'm not doing that.

[@matgyver2360]

Great Video! Could you provide the nominal thickness of the IHS. I am needing to know how much distance is between the top of the chip, and the top of the IHS. Thanks!

[@moparerrnocar]

Cuz like, erm, like, and like, so like, uhhhh like, yea like..

[@freddyv.2756]

Is that version of TurboV Core publicly available?

[@fatal1ty861]

Niceee! What block you use ?

[@goneegone1695]

What is your bios settings?

[@rick5078]

ekwb has a nice direct die waterblock for the lga 1700 13th gen sockets so you can just ditch the ihs alltogether. even comes with some conductonaut.

[@AFpaleoCon]

It’s also known to have serious issues.

[@rick5078]

@@AFpaleoCon so I have noticed, seems that the one made by der 8auer is the best so far.

[@cppctek]

i lowered mine quite a bit on my evga dark board and asus boards using contact frames. also lapping the cpu and the cooler helps alot too. i am running 5.6/4.5/4.8 @ 1.34v and ive got great temps on my 13600k

[@ReventonQ]

How much improvement did you get by lapping the cpu and cooler? What are you temps at 1.34v? Thanks

[@xBINARYGODx]

that quite the AVX drop, unless I am not grocking the number listing correctly.

[@josetrigueiro5978]

Sorry for my question, overclocks is not a topic I master. Before the delidding, Cinebench scored 72.87 pts. Then marked between 71.81 and 71.14 pts. Weren't these values supposed to have increased?

[@LuumiJuhani]

Correct, for some reason the results are very incosistent this generation.

[@OneCosmic749]

Or maybe it's just cinebench being inconsistent?

[@xBINARYGODx]

we really need more info that just "I delid" - like what mobo and what bios and what bios settings.

[@wololo10]

Use direct die bro

[@sldkjh]

Maybe use hot glue to refit the IHS? For things like that hot glue is the bomb.

[@jjlw2378]

How often do you need to reapply the liquid metal?

[@Jjanssoni]

My old setup did have delided 7700k/5.1ghz for around 4 years and i did reapply liquid metal two times.

[@LeafGreenHDD]

i delidded 8700K spring 2020 and stikk going strong with no reapply

[@jjlw2378]

Nice thanks guys! I was concerned it was an every 6 months kind of thing which would be too much hassle. I've always wanted to try this and have considered doing it multiple times. At 5.8p/4.5e/5.0ring with adaptive voltage 1.38v LLC6 (MSI) after 10mins of CBr23 my hottest core hits 86°C. I'm not too concerned with temps but delid and direct die seems really fun and could help push things even further!

[@eoiggj]

I delidded i7 4770k in 2013/14 and put liquid metal. Temps are still the same. No reason to reapply.

[@kommandokodiak6025]

​@@jjlw2378 just get the thermal grizzly contact frame and the lapping block with it too lap the cpu first before going to a delid you might not even have to go through the trouble of deciding. Remeber to lap your cpu waterblock too