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@georgevisvikis1878
@georgevisvikis1878 Жыл бұрын
It is too simple for Math-Olympiad.
@vishal.gupta1
@vishal.gupta1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@oficialmundodiverso
@oficialmundodiverso Жыл бұрын
No
@uwuowo7775
@uwuowo7775 Жыл бұрын
​@@furina9053Olympiad math is just a whole different level man, thats why they mentioned it
@volkanatar4232
@volkanatar4232 Жыл бұрын
I think it was maybe paralympic games
@SkyBlue0
@SkyBlue0 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was from the qualifier level exam
@RickDesper-v8z
@RickDesper-v8z Жыл бұрын
Instead of looking for (a-b)^2 = 3 - 2 sqrt(2), I looked for (a + b sqrt(2))^2 = (3 - 2 sqrt(2)), with a, b rational numbers. The advantage here is that I don't have to pull a and b out of thin air: I can solve for them. In this case we have a^2 + 2 b^2 = 3 and 2ab = -2. There are two solutions here: a = -1, b = 1, and a = 1, b = -1. The latter choice is the positive result implied by the radical. So the answer is -1 + sqrt(2). How did I know to look for an answer in this form? From more advanced math, I know that Q[sqrt(2)] is a field, which means specifically for us that it's closed under multiplication. So it's a good place to start when looking for roots of a polynomial.
@NazriB
@NazriB Жыл бұрын
Lies again? Must See TV Deaf Blind
@yu-yu704
@yu-yu704 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this trick of manipulation of sqrt(2) like imaginary numbers, but I didn’t realize it had a formal name Q(sqrt(2))
@RozoClopero-hj9lf
@RozoClopero-hj9lf Жыл бұрын
You can also use the fact that for a = sqrt(3 - sqrt(8)) and b = sqrt(3 + sqrt(8)) we find that ab = 1 and a + b = sqrt(8), hence x^2 - sqrt(8)x + 1 = 0 have - 1 + sqrt(2) and 1 + sqrt(2) for solution.
@johnklaus9111
@johnklaus9111 6 ай бұрын
So -1 is on of your answers for a square root problem? What times what equals negative 1? Ooops...
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2+2= 4
@pdas6145
@pdas6145 Жыл бұрын
One should be careful in distinguishing between 'equals' and 'implies' symbols.
@DrKleinIll
@DrKleinIll Жыл бұрын
People commenting it is too simple are unrecognized genius. I wonder why they are wasting their time watching youtube videos. I mean, it is not the hardest question, but it does takes more thinking than a regular polynomial question and corresponds to high school students level
@dhonikumarshahi2806
@dhonikumarshahi2806 Ай бұрын
Skill issue 😂
@fahimfuad92
@fahimfuad92 Ай бұрын
Ha ha So funny man. You probably should become a standing comedian​@@dhonikumarshahi2806
@alexp2019
@alexp2019 Ай бұрын
Is it high school level?😂 not 8th grade?
@archmaneric9251
@archmaneric9251 Ай бұрын
Im not a genius and I solved it in my head lying in bed in about 60 seconds. It's too simple
@DOROHEDOROFAN
@DOROHEDOROFAN 17 күн бұрын
@@archmaneric9251 sarcasm
@jim2376
@jim2376 Жыл бұрын
√(3 - 2√2). Shortcut: 2 + 1 = 3 and 2 x 1 = 2. Automatic: √2 - √1 which simplifies to √2 - 1. Use the shortcut and don't overthink it.
@killanxv
@killanxv Жыл бұрын
i didn't get your point
@jim2376
@jim2376 Жыл бұрын
@@killanxv If (1) the coefficient in front of the second term is 2, and (2) the numbers summing to the first term are the same as factors multiplying to the radicand in the second term, then the answer is the sum or difference of the roots of the two numbers summing to the first term. See my post above. Gotta have that coefficient of 2 in front of the radical sign in the second term. √(15 + √200)) √200 = √(4 x 50) = 2√50. Bingo! Got the coefficient of 2. Now 10 + 5 = 15 and 10 x 5 = 50. Throw radical signs over 10 and 5 for your answer: √10 + √5. Note that we keep the sign in the original problem. Hope this helps.
@abhishekchhikara4100
@abhishekchhikara4100 Жыл бұрын
​@@jim2376made even more difficult 😂 , what is a radicand ? Too simple earlier , it happens by simple instincts
@SunnyRosy-uk1ch
@SunnyRosy-uk1ch Жыл бұрын
​@@abhishekchhikara4100That's for people like you, just go and read definitions and you can see the word radicand is so common in most textbooks
@James_Lindgaard
@James_Lindgaard Жыл бұрын
What happens when your teacher wants to see the problem worked step by step?
@forestfairy4025
@forestfairy4025 11 ай бұрын
I hope one day everyone finds the peace in math! Love from Türkiye.
@ibrahimhalilalpaslan1259
@ibrahimhalilalpaslan1259 11 ай бұрын
Well we are not going to find it until we get fair question remember differential problem in 2021? İ dont know if youre university preparing student or you did but just check it out
@albertdumont4977
@albertdumont4977 Ай бұрын
A japanese guy once told me something that changed my life. He said that the common people's mind makes a very assertive division between leisure and studies. The secret is to look at exercises like puzzles or games, in such a way that you don't see youself as studing, but having fun instead. That's why nerds never get tired of studies, they can't stop indeed. I know its sounds crazy, but beleive me, it works very well, mainly im mathematics.
@stephenbennett1127
@stephenbennett1127 Жыл бұрын
I am a genuine maths dunce. Don't remember learning any of this and I don't understand it now either! 😅
@Nepali_guy_Study_yt_account
@Nepali_guy_Study_yt_account 8 ай бұрын
Every one has their own unique talent sir....
@Ispeakwithlogic
@Ispeakwithlogic 7 ай бұрын
Bro are you from America 😂
@epicmansteingaming452
@epicmansteingaming452 7 ай бұрын
@@Ispeakwithlogicif you think Americans are dumb you should see which country has the most medals in International Math Olympiad
@jagadiswarchakraborty295
@jagadiswarchakraborty295 3 ай бұрын
Nice trick
@maitreyeeghosh6156
@maitreyeeghosh6156 Ай бұрын
Its not for genius it's for children .
@davidbrisbane7206
@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
Now √(√9 - √8) = √(3 - 2√2). Now suppose √(√3 - 2√2) = a + b√2, where a and b are integers. This maybe not actually have a solution in integers, but if it does, we can find them as follows. Let 3 - 2√2 = (a + b√2)² = (a² + 2b²) + 2ab√2 So, 3 = a² + 2b² and -2 = 2ab So, (a = 1 and b = -1) or (a = -1 and b = 1). However, a + b√2 ≥ 0, as otherwise √(√9 - √8) would be a complex number, so we are forced to conclude that a = -1 and b = 1 is the only possible solution. So, √(√9 - √8) = -1 + 1*√2 = √2 - 1.
@samarthsamrat8378
@samarthsamrat8378 Жыл бұрын
It can be the other method which is great but the standard one is more easy and convinnient
@RickDesper-v8z
@RickDesper-v8z Жыл бұрын
I'd start by relaxing to let a, b be rational numbers. Then be pleasantly surprised when they turn out to be integers. The rest of the process is exactly the same.
@luanh8125
@luanh8125 Жыл бұрын
We were solving such problems in my 8th grade in Romania in a regular maths class. Too simple for an Olympiad.
@jonavuka
@jonavuka Жыл бұрын
no one cares
@thomasjefferson6225
@thomasjefferson6225 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure third world Romania isn't.
@GeorgeRoussas
@GeorgeRoussas Жыл бұрын
I wonder if no baddy needs mathema😊ticks why still teach them
@Mayhamsdead
@Mayhamsdead Жыл бұрын
Cope and seethe.
@Mayhamsdead
@Mayhamsdead Жыл бұрын
China and Romania have always been at the top when in comes to math, but I don't necessarily think the method used to achieve that goal was a positive one.
@pawedziedzic3250
@pawedziedzic3250 Жыл бұрын
People saying this is too simple, and while it kind of is simple, it is also hard to come up with unless you are trained to apply this kind of thinking in problems. I would have never guessed to use the square of difference identity, feels like its a problem you have to be familiar with beforehand
@Aman-nk5uq
@Aman-nk5uq Жыл бұрын
Yupp, one must have known the patterns before
@novaastronomia8720
@novaastronomia8720 11 ай бұрын
I think its not that hard. In √(3-2√2), the 3-2√2 is inside a sq root, which makes us try forms like (a±b)^2
@Ispeakwithlogic
@Ispeakwithlogic 7 ай бұрын
It's simple school book question in india probably from 8 or 9th grade it's just basic...😂 I didn't expect anything form American but atleast European can do it🤡😂...I guess now a days they are busy in teaching children about gender equality and lgbt😂🤡
@mar2506
@mar2506 6 ай бұрын
"it is also hard to come up with unless you are trained to apply this kind of thinking in problems" . those who are spesicically trained for olympiands, will be trained for this and much more , becomes it too easy for them.
@RavinderKumarSharma-pw9ke
@RavinderKumarSharma-pw9ke 2 ай бұрын
​@mar2506 an averag 8th grader from India will be able to this in seconds brh. U'll find this in cbse books
@AlexandreSNunes
@AlexandreSNunes Жыл бұрын
As a martian, I teached myself this trick at 6 months old, by observing shadow patterns in our red planet.
@jassaljs
@jassaljs Жыл бұрын
😂
@Dad_Of_Atreus
@Dad_Of_Atreus 8 ай бұрын
Ain't no martian looks like a mongoose 🗣️
@albertdumont4977
@albertdumont4977 Ай бұрын
Don't let Elon Musk colonize Mars. What a pity if the red planet becoming stupid as Earth.
@ShereenSultana-nf6if
@ShereenSultana-nf6if 5 ай бұрын
To solve the given expression, we can simplify it step by step: Simplify the square root of 9: v9=3 Simplify the square root of 8: v8=2v2 Substitute the simplified values back into the original expression: v3-2v2 Therefore, the solution to the given expression is v3-2v2
@praveendavuluri9576
@praveendavuluri9576 Жыл бұрын
Why do you need ( a-b)(a-b)? You can simply find the answer at 3-2√2 only na. 3-2*1.414=3-2.828=.172=√.172=.414 which is the same one.
@lesouni9342
@lesouni9342 8 ай бұрын
Im guessing you're not allowed a calculator in this exam , as such your calculation are only approximation and can't be used as answers.
@praveendavuluri9576
@praveendavuluri9576 8 ай бұрын
@@lesouni9342 you don't need a calculator for such easy things.you don't even need a pen& paper for sure.
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2+8= 10
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
Hiding qusoin are
@parasuraman1155
@parasuraman1155 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that there are some Maths Olympiad questions within our grasp. I forgot the sqrt(square) trick from high school, but would have been able to do it then. These are like IIT JEE questions, maybe training questions, those students would argue. I expect IIT JEE students (even students) to call this easy by IIT JEE standard. Which would make me average in Maths. At 90 percentile in Quantitative Ability in the Stamford-Binet V test.
@eddie31415
@eddie31415 Жыл бұрын
yeah, it's an easy question. Like JEE Mains level probably.
@Kanuos-xd8ej
@Kanuos-xd8ej Жыл бұрын
@@eddie31415 this is class 9 school level.
@srivatsnaman
@srivatsnaman Жыл бұрын
This question is in Class 9 R D Sharma Factorisation of Polynomials fill in the blanks in the form of √3 -2√2.
@blank3580
@blank3580 Жыл бұрын
@@eddie31415 lol no 8th or 9th class problem maybe jee mains level are far more harder than thiss
@NaplesFC
@NaplesFC Жыл бұрын
@@eddie31415 it's a grade 9th or 10th question maybe
@MrAustrianoak
@MrAustrianoak Жыл бұрын
Because in the main question the number under square root is definitely positive, as squared root of 9 is bigger than squared root of 8.
@scottrichmond3548
@scottrichmond3548 Жыл бұрын
Then again, the square root of 9 is also -3, so there are two answers.
@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191
@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191 Жыл бұрын
@@scottrichmond3548 square root of 9 is 3 not -3
@antronx7
@antronx7 Жыл бұрын
@@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191 what's -3 * -3 ?
@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191
@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191 Жыл бұрын
@@antronx7 9
@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191
@rudraroopbhattacharjee6191 Жыл бұрын
@@antronx7 I understand what you are trying to say but its a rule of mathematics that in Real numbers, √x is always non negative. What you mean to say is- Roots of X² are ±√(x²) See, the ± comes before a square root thing. This is because a square root can never be negative. In your case, X² = 9 X = ±√9 X = +3, -3
@EngineeringTR
@EngineeringTR Жыл бұрын
There is a rule if it is in the form of sqrt(sqrt(x+y)-2sqrt(x.y)) then the result is sqrt(x)-sqrt(y). For this question sqrt(sqrt(2+1)-2[sqrt(2)*sqrt(1)])=sqrt(2)-sqrt(1)=sqrt(2)-1
@atulyaroy8962
@atulyaroy8962 Жыл бұрын
Well it's better to be said identity, since it holds for all Reals. Like a process has a rule to (for example) integrate by parts, you assume 1 function to be 1st and other to be second then you apply the formula of rule. Just my take.
@RickDesper-v8z
@RickDesper-v8z Жыл бұрын
This doesn't look exactly right. Square your RHS. You get (x + y) - 2 sqrt(xy). You need to lose one "sqrt" on the left hand side. To wit: sqrt((x + y) - 2 sqrt(xy)) = +/- (sqrt(x) - sqrt(y)), with the sign chosen on the RHS to ensure the number is positive.
@keithapps
@keithapps Жыл бұрын
When I went to a secondary modern senior school in 1958 I was taught to be literate and numerate, I worked as a precision engineer but I don't have a clue what the lady is talking about.
@anilthomas5658
@anilthomas5658 7 ай бұрын
Bro this for real made me fall of my bed laughin
@yomyomcam
@yomyomcam 7 ай бұрын
She got this "trick" out of a Deus Ex Machina
@rizbuild
@rizbuild Ай бұрын
Solved by AI √9-√8=? To evaluate the expression √9 - √8, we need to simplify the square roots. √9 = √(3²) = 3 (since 3² = 9) √8 = √(2² × 2) = 2√2 (since 2² × 2 = 8) Now, subtract: 3 - 2√2 To simplify further, we can approximate 2√2 as 2.83. 3 - 2.83 = 0.17 So, √9 - √8 ≈ 0.17.
@UNKNOWNPERSON-kk9kd
@UNKNOWNPERSON-kk9kd Жыл бұрын
Nicely done and thank you. However, I'll just use my handy electronic calculator for these kind of problems.
@bharatiyagamerg
@bharatiyagamerg 2 ай бұрын
To simple 🙃 √( √9 - √8) √( 3 - √8) √( 3 - 2×1.41) √( 3 - 2.82) √( .18 ) => near to √16 So as my own formula 😂 ( work only when number are near to root ) Information √.16=> .4 √.18 .4 + 1/18 => .4 + .056 => .456 (it is approx without so much calculations 😅) Well the 1/18 , its come from my formula Like if someone root value are near to square √24 = √25 - (25-24)/( *2* * 25) *2* is constant 😊
@George-Toby
@George-Toby Жыл бұрын
I knew this ...i just forget about it. That's what happens when you don't stay in practice
@tomcherry1976
@tomcherry1976 Жыл бұрын
Ashole cleaning in Hospital useless.
@dailyhealthmotivation7079
@dailyhealthmotivation7079 Ай бұрын
It's simple Question for Vedic Mathematics =√3-2.8286 =√0.1714 *=0.414*
@MateFast_Oficial
@MateFast_Oficial Жыл бұрын
Para los que piden solución negativa, recuerden que: x^2=4 no es lo mismo que x=√4 ....
@davidecampana269
@davidecampana269 Жыл бұрын
Esatto. Dai che a novembre quando non sarò più quello dei numeri e tiferò Putin che farà un bel botto nucleare vi regalerò giubbotti di plastica a specchio, piscine in muratura e motomacchine che sfrecciano a 500 orari. Da novembre ci divertiamo tutti contro tutti col finale nucleare planetario
@plutao_pt
@plutao_pt Жыл бұрын
pero cuadrados negatvos no existen
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2+2 =4
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
4+4 = 8
@albertdumont4977
@albertdumont4977 Ай бұрын
Thank you girl, from the buttom of my heart. I nearly end up in the asylum trying to solve exercises like this. Besides a great mathematician you also have psyquiatric talents.
@NainsiArya1818
@NainsiArya1818 4 ай бұрын
Being an IIT - JEE aspirant from India , It is one of the easiest category of maths problem I ever met !
@mathematicsman7454
@mathematicsman7454 4 ай бұрын
I know the trick too.... But if anybody don't know the trick of solving it directly....they too have to give a minute..... Professor of college who are doing PhD in mathematics don't know such trick and they may take a minute to solve it's doesn't mean that they know less math than you okay...... I hope you otherstand the difference
@NainsiArya1818
@NainsiArya1818 4 ай бұрын
@@mathematicsman7454 I am not judging anyone as If someone is able to solve this problem she may be genius and the one who isn't is weak in maths . I was just saying that even in Maths Olympiad , there comes questions which can be solved just by basics ! Well I respect your opinion ..
@CuRiOuS--MEHRAN
@CuRiOuS--MEHRAN 3 ай бұрын
Thankyou for being my competition
@deepamurthy198
@deepamurthy198 3 ай бұрын
And in IIT JEE we never got such questions
@NainsiArya1818
@NainsiArya1818 3 ай бұрын
@@deepamurthy198 Yah !
@akosmagyar4878
@akosmagyar4878 Жыл бұрын
This is a standard problem. You reduce it to sqrt (sqrt (9)+sqrt(8))=sqrt (2+2\sqrt(2)+1)=sqrt(2)+1.
@stevethackery9853
@stevethackery9853 Жыл бұрын
Sadly I was totally confused. She showed us a rather lengthy process, but with ABSOLUTELY NO explanation for why we are doing all these arcane steps. I think this is probably the worst possible explanation of how to achieve the objective, because she showed us WHAT to do but with no explanation at all of WHY.
@forvm2051
@forvm2051 Жыл бұрын
Actually a lot of Math teachers I met explain things in this way, which can be rather frustrating
@albertoflanolombardo4155
@albertoflanolombardo4155 Жыл бұрын
What do you expect from an Asian?
@somgesomgedus9313
@somgesomgedus9313 Жыл бұрын
I would say that's not her fault but more the fault of mathematics. There is no rule or formula to ever tell you what to do next. In mathematics the only good answer to why did you do this is "because it works"
@Sevan59
@Sevan59 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I ask my self what is the benefit of such math, it is like guessing not a direct math , useless in normal job life , don’t expect nowadays mobile / comp. generation children need such bla bla
@stevethackery9853
@stevethackery9853 Жыл бұрын
@@somgesomgedus9313 Actually I must respectfully disagree. To suggest that "because it works" is the only explanation needed in maths encourages rote learning, instead of gaining a true understanding of what you are doing, and why. Mathematics is a language used for the manipulation of symbols: "because it works" is like learning the words of a spoken language without learning their meaning. It renders you helpless when faced with a novel situation, and that is not how we should teach maths.
@_dr.mayhem
@_dr.mayhem Ай бұрын
I am a student Can you tell me what I did wrong trying to solve this √((√9)-(√8))= x √9-√8=x² 9-2×√9×√8+8=x⁴ 9-2×3×2√2+8=x⁴ 17-12√2=x⁴ x=fourth root of 17-12√2 But the answer I'm getting is 0.4142135..... Which is also the same answer I'm getting for √(√9-√8). (0.4142135.....) Edit: I'm an idiot I thought you said the answer is sqrt of 2, didn't hear the part where you said sqrt of 2 -1, that makes a lot more sense. So my answer is correct.
@Ramkabharosa
@Ramkabharosa Жыл бұрын
√{a ± b√c} (a,b,c non-neg. rat.) can be simplified to √y±√z iff {a² - b².c} = d². If this d exists, then take y = (a+d)/2 & z = (a-d)/2. Here a=3, b=2, & c=2. So d = √{3² - 2².2} = √{9 - 8} = √1 = 1. So y = {3+1}/2 = 2 & z = {3-1}/2 = 1. Hence √{√9 - √8} = √{3 - 2√2} = √y - √z = √2 - √1 = (√2) - 1.
@nomadsland7195
@nomadsland7195 Жыл бұрын
What does the last instruction read. Is it English? I couldn't decipher.
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2+2=4
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
3_2 1
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2_ 0
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2_ 1 0
@SiddharthGautam-ry5wt
@SiddharthGautam-ry5wt 10 ай бұрын
Real Olympiad questions Let a and b be positive integers such that ab+1 divides a²+b². Show that a²+b²/ab+1 is the square of an integer.
@rupakdey2803
@rupakdey2803 Жыл бұрын
To solve the problem here, two symbols used ie. "Is equal to" and "implies". For simplification "is equal to" is used. But to solve an equation "implies" symble is used.
@bluebow9347
@bluebow9347 7 ай бұрын
Can you specify the implies symbol?
@Crazy_mathematics
@Crazy_mathematics Жыл бұрын
√(√9+√8) =√(3+√8) = √x + √y Then, x+y =3 x-y=1 √2 + √1 *Get it from Carr's synopsis ( book used by ramanujan to self study)
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
3+3=6
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
3+3= 6
@brettmoore3194
@brettmoore3194 Жыл бұрын
Funny i always thought algebra was magical until i learned trigonometry. Then i was amazed on how it is used in daily life. I always questioned when i would need to use algebra in daily tasks... 😅
@rajatshubhrosengupta284
@rajatshubhrosengupta284 2 ай бұрын
Simpler n Shorter Solution : 3 - 2 x Sq Rt of 2 = Z x Z OR Square of Z = 3 - ( 2 x 1.41 ) = 3 - 2.82 Therefore Sqr of Z = 0. 18 So Z = Sq Rt of 0. 18 Answer = 0. 424
@seamoreplant
@seamoreplant Жыл бұрын
I could have gone my whole life without knowing that answer! Now I know!
@glasssmirror2314
@glasssmirror2314 8 ай бұрын
Please help me to solve using diff of 2 sq as mentioned by teacher but not followed.
@mokhtarali8749
@mokhtarali8749 Ай бұрын
2V2=2ab =2×1×V2>>1×V2 (a=1 ,b=V2 or a=V2 ,b=1)
@pavelkovarik144
@pavelkovarik144 Жыл бұрын
Used calculator, got same result.💪
@Bananajoe474
@Bananajoe474 9 ай бұрын
Work smarter not harder 💪
@liralira8710
@liralira8710 Жыл бұрын
Equation with double radical The first number will be added to the second. And then it's going to be the product of the first number and the second. ✓3-2√2= S=2+1=3. P=2.(-1)=-2. ✓2-1 .
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
3_2 1
@freddyalvaradamaranon304
@freddyalvaradamaranon304 Жыл бұрын
Interesante y didáctica explicación, muchas gracias por compartir 😊❤😊
@ellentau427
@ellentau427 Ай бұрын
By the time she finished the square root I was SQUARE DANCING 😁
@nguyenquoccuong3311
@nguyenquoccuong3311 Жыл бұрын
it's for secondary school in Vietnam 😂
@hoangdj
@hoangdj Жыл бұрын
True story 😂
@ommapodi
@ommapodi 9 ай бұрын
Don't make it complicated Sqrt(√9-√8) = sqrt(3-2√2) (If you think about it 3=1²+√2² also 2√2 is 2*1*√2 so it matches with (a+b)² = a²+b²+2ab ) So, Sqrt(3-2√2) = sqrt(1²+2√2²-2√2) =Sqrt((1-√2)²) =1-√2 Of it can also be √2-1 because of sqrts
@allenmurray7893
@allenmurray7893 Жыл бұрын
I am totally lost from the start.
@Shreyansh_Patra
@Shreyansh_Patra Ай бұрын
Good for general knowledge, but not useful for big Olympiads.
@itsalecsteica5243
@itsalecsteica5243 Жыл бұрын
If this is a math-olympiad question, I'm a genius
@eliasbram3710
@eliasbram3710 Жыл бұрын
do you all Know that math olympics have some simple questions here and there to slow participants down and reward faster solutions right? This Its ONE example of such questions. You solve it quickly to have more time to solve the actual problems Good luck with the other questions "genius"
@kjetilho
@kjetilho Жыл бұрын
This shows a technique, it is kept simple to make the point come across more easily. In a real question, this could be one step in the middle.
@novaastronomia8720
@novaastronomia8720 11 ай бұрын
you're right: its not a math olympiad question. Clickbait
@Ispeakwithlogic
@Ispeakwithlogic 7 ай бұрын
It's simple school book question in india probably from 8 or 9th grade it's just basic...😂 I didn't expect anything form American but atleast European can do it🤡😂...I guess now a days they are busy in teaching children about gender equality and lgbt😂🤡
@vot5748
@vot5748 Ай бұрын
⁠@@eliasbram3710math olympiad problems usually have a trick to them that isn’t commonly known, that’s why they are so hard. this however, is a textbook example of denesting square roots most people interested enough in contest math algebra would know. unfortunately, it is clickbait. this is not a MO level problem
@luanpassoni
@luanpassoni 9 ай бұрын
I never used the (a±b)² formula like that before, thats brilliant
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2+2= 4
@volodymyrtsurko
@volodymyrtsurko Жыл бұрын
I do not know how much time it would take for me until realizing that 3 - 2sqrt(2) can be easily presented in a form of a^2 - 2ab + b^2. Do mathematicians have a special ability to glance it on the spot when something can be recombined according to the known rule?
@TheMeiravital
@TheMeiravital Жыл бұрын
I think it is more about having experience and mastery with those tools. In many schools we skip to differentials and integrals before having a solid grasp on foundations of math. It's like they think mathematics was an intellectual desert up until newton and Leibniz. If students are educated to maximize their mathematical tools before learning new ones, they'd know how to solve these problems. (The Israeli school system is worse than the american, we don't even learn completing the square, so we'd have no intuition for solving this kind of problem)
@Jxsh_Lofi
@Jxsh_Lofi Жыл бұрын
​@@TheMeiravital😂
@Kandralla
@Kandralla Жыл бұрын
​@@TheMeiravital Thank God they did do that otherwise I would have failed math. Memorizing patterns is not as useful as understanding why. ESPECIALLY once you realize that in the real world math never works out nicely like that.
@mnlight8308
@mnlight8308 Жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one who had this shitty problem, I had to solve advanced math problems without having enough time to fully memorize algebra formulas due to lockdown. And now everyone is kicking ass
@ArchangelAurora
@ArchangelAurora Жыл бұрын
I think they just saw the same or very similar solutions over and over. I asked my math professor a question before and he solved it by adding 1 to the both sides of the equation. When I asked why would he do something weird like that and he told me that they just get used to this patterns over the years.
@alwoolridge6377
@alwoolridge6377 Жыл бұрын
I like maths...but I absolutely hate when they get "creative" (i.e.: the only way to resolve a problem, instead of using a well stablished and proven algorithm, is having a happy idea). Thank God for calculus.
@davidanderson5310
@davidanderson5310 Жыл бұрын
What's the motivation for trying to express it as a^2 - 2ab + b^2? If you don't already know the answer, why would you do that?
@OptimusCrime4444
@OptimusCrime4444 Жыл бұрын
This method is called compleating the square. You map your current problem on the binomial formula and then use it to simplify the problem. Which she did. I did not watch the video with sound on. Not sure why everyone is so negative in the comments...
@Ispeakwithlogic
@Ispeakwithlogic 7 ай бұрын
It's simple school book question in india probably from 8 or 9th grade it's just basic...😂 I didn't expect anything form American but atleast European can do it🤡😂...I guess now a days they are busy in teaching children about gender equality and lgbt😂🤡
@nomobo1778
@nomobo1778 Ай бұрын
Solved it in my head in less than 3 seconds, and I am 81. Of course I learned math before they “improved it.” And the instructor is wrong. The answer is 1.
@nomobo1778
@nomobo1778 Ай бұрын
Nope, I am wrong.
@MUTAA_MESTRI
@MUTAA_MESTRI Жыл бұрын
Im very weak in math but somehow completed intermediate with 97% in math and completed my engineering a month ago 😂
@AdityaKumar-gv4dj
@AdityaKumar-gv4dj 10 ай бұрын
No one asked
@MUTAA_MESTRI
@MUTAA_MESTRI 10 ай бұрын
@@AdityaKumar-gv4dj No one answered you! Saala
@serioustourist2574
@serioustourist2574 2 ай бұрын
3-2✓2 = 3-2*1.414 just product and subtract will give your answer
@thefuturist8864
@thefuturist8864 Жыл бұрын
What kind of pen are you using? I’ve been looking for a fine-point pen for ages!
@EricBarger
@EricBarger Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else asked this question.
@kushagravarshney7683
@kushagravarshney7683 Жыл бұрын
Instead of doing this simply let the whole thing be x and form a quadritic equation and just solve it. Isn't it better to give all the possible values rather than just 1 value?
@WoodrowWoods2007
@WoodrowWoods2007 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see this used in an actually useful use case. My brain has a hard time following nonsensical “just because” problems
@lestath2345
@lestath2345 Жыл бұрын
What do you define as an actual "useful use case"?
@somgesomgedus9313
@somgesomgedus9313 Жыл бұрын
Find the roots of x^4-6x^2+1
@WoodrowWoods2007
@WoodrowWoods2007 Жыл бұрын
@@lestath2345 tell me a real world instance where this would be used other than a math class
@lestath2345
@lestath2345 Жыл бұрын
@@WoodrowWoods2007 In the field of pure math. Also, we're mostly doing this for the sake of doing it, just like playing video games, *for fun*.
@Aman-nk5uq
@Aman-nk5uq Жыл бұрын
​@@lestath2345yes it is a brain exercise. Opens the horizons of brain
@glasssmirror2314
@glasssmirror2314 8 ай бұрын
My friends please don't crack your heads. Here the teacher should have said that this works as Quad Eq with 3 and a number inside radical i.e 2 so 2+1=3 and 2x1=2 so a=2 and b=1
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2×1=2
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
1+1=2
@emankhan6094
@emankhan6094 5 ай бұрын
2+1=3
@rainbownneon900
@rainbownneon900 Жыл бұрын
As an Indian, I appeared this question at SOF Mathematics Olympaid in my third grade
@JamesAnderson-lq8tf
@JamesAnderson-lq8tf Жыл бұрын
I always see Indians in comment section only to brag about themselves. Usually this means a lack of confidence and self-respect. Is India one of the leaders in technology in the world?
@Eismann1
@Eismann1 Жыл бұрын
It's a nice problem and thanks for your video. Please however do not write "=>" when dealing with terms. It leads many students to improper notation.
@tenantjames2967
@tenantjames2967 10 ай бұрын
I love maths but the way she explains it its juicy way of explaining.
@ruqeyyarsulova4032
@ruqeyyarsulova4032 8 ай бұрын
I am an Azerbaijan pupil. Question is very easy. I found the solution to the question as soon as I saw it
@polluxsimracing3712
@polluxsimracing3712 Жыл бұрын
I got the answer as soon as i saw it 😂 i remember 40 years ago my teacher still be asking for the pointless work lol
@dillipkumardash433
@dillipkumardash433 Ай бұрын
We have Ramanujan Technique to solve this in the mind itself.
@leventaa2347
@leventaa2347 Жыл бұрын
As a Turkish student who studied for university entrance exam, I am really sad that I solved this question like in seconds from my mind.
@egeozel80
@egeozel80 Жыл бұрын
So which University did you end up 😬 😁
@vornamenachname906
@vornamenachname906 Жыл бұрын
​@@SunriseLAWroasted
@reinach77
@reinach77 Жыл бұрын
Funny how so many third world students come here to brag about being able to solve this.
@jonavuka
@jonavuka Жыл бұрын
​@@egeozel80hes cleaning washrooms for a living
@omerece5011
@omerece5011 11 ай бұрын
In1990ies in ist. muhendislik one of our friend proved a wellkown physics equation's incorrectnessby maths but these kids are smiling on you ,dont worry you're in the right path...
@Omar041
@Omar041 7 ай бұрын
3-2root2=(root2-1) square under root square and roof goes the answer is root2-1
@ricofarrari1346
@ricofarrari1346 10 ай бұрын
Your just doing the math there’s no explaination along the way.
@KSJGaming
@KSJGaming Жыл бұрын
Shortcut √3-2x1.4=0.447, just compare from the options
@artavazd0
@artavazd0 22 күн бұрын
Задача имеет 8 решений---------- +-(корень из 2 +1), +-(корень из 2 - 1), +-i(корень из 2 +1), +-i(корень из 2 - 1).
@Lincoln-ht2dv
@Lincoln-ht2dv Жыл бұрын
I don't like abstract short cuts. Too complicated.
@AdityaKumar-gv4dj
@AdityaKumar-gv4dj 10 ай бұрын
Root 2 - 1, solved in less than a second orally 😅, a better version of the problem always appears in school level maths olympiad so just used to it.
@Pietras_Maestro
@Pietras_Maestro Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, although in practice it is not needed for anything in life :)
@chrisjfox8715
@chrisjfox8715 Жыл бұрын
In everyday life no, but the general take away from problems like this is exercising the notion of manipulating mathematical expressions into different forms to make them simpler (i.e., easier to manage, interpret, etc). This particular example isn't that complicated, but the general skill of simplification can come in handy in certain jobs. Like if one were to come up with a certain formula to describe a particular phenomena that's unique to that company, someone else may want to manipulate the form of that formula so to make its terms more explicit.
@anuragparasharsarmah1045
@anuragparasharsarmah1045 Жыл бұрын
​@@chrisjfox8715bruh
@PlatuzCubing
@PlatuzCubing Жыл бұрын
Certainly you won’t need it don’t worry
@An_ony_mous
@An_ony_mous Жыл бұрын
It's just for improving your thinking skills.
@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine
@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine Жыл бұрын
You don't, but the smart people do
@anhnl1992
@anhnl1992 Жыл бұрын
Replace by =
@cspresimir
@cspresimir Жыл бұрын
Kinda useless for ANY practical purposes ...sqrt(sqrt(9) -sqrt(8)) is solved using a pocket calculator
@gzannos
@gzannos Жыл бұрын
Since Sq root of 2 -1 is positive you don't have to use absolute value
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@Susantha.Nanayakkara
@Susantha.Nanayakkara Күн бұрын
9-8=c4 =1 C=1
@msanio1
@msanio1 Жыл бұрын
Please do not write sqrt(2)= 1,414 This was the moment when you lost me.
@NickLea
@NickLea Жыл бұрын
@@buddy0479 You are mistaken. In the UK it is also 1.414. It is other European countries such as France and Germany where this occurs.
@MotivationEditzG
@MotivationEditzG 10 ай бұрын
Can somebody help me with this question: task: Arthur and Renate are playing on a square game board divided into 7 x 7 squares. Arthur has two red stones initially placed in the bottom left and top right corner squares, while Renate has two black stones initially placed in the top left and bottom right corner squares. On their turn, a player selects one of their two stones and moves it to a horizontally or vertically adjacent free square. Arthur and Renate take turns, with Arthur starting. Arthur wins if, after a finite number of moves, his two stones are in horizontally or vertically adjacent squares. Can Renate prevent this by making clever moves?
@satwikshaw1031
@satwikshaw1031 Жыл бұрын
As Indian I can confirm this we did in grade 6
@caydeniam123
@caydeniam123 Ай бұрын
Im in 9th grade and know how to do this. So ez. sqrt of 9 = 2 x sqrt 2.25 sqrt 8 = 2x sqrt 2 2xsqrt2.25 - 2xsqrt2= 2xsqrt 0.25=2x0.5=1
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 Жыл бұрын
Why does the final answer have to be positive?
@flam1ex186
@flam1ex186 Жыл бұрын
the root of x square = module x(module≥0)
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 Жыл бұрын
@@flam1ex186 a square root can be both positive and negative
@evgtro8727
@evgtro8727 Жыл бұрын
@@sureshmukhi2316 that is true for complex numbers/functions. For reals it must be positive.
@kasiviswanath2623gzujejs
@kasiviswanath2623gzujejs Жыл бұрын
Root doesn't contain negative
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 Жыл бұрын
If a root can't be negative then explain the quadratic formula?
@BrunoPessolani
@BrunoPessolani Жыл бұрын
The answer is [2(square root) - 1]
@anatolykarpov1821
@anatolykarpov1821 Жыл бұрын
In Asia, a bad student in 2nd school can easily do this math :))
@victory2115
@victory2115 Жыл бұрын
Why ? 😳🤷‍♂️
@Spaced_Invader
@Spaced_Invader 7 ай бұрын
I suck at maths, but found this very calming. Please advise using the problem above, where would I use it in life? Many thanks....
@dis5422
@dis5422 Жыл бұрын
Очень легкая и известная задача
@PankajKumarRoy-q2z
@PankajKumarRoy-q2z Жыл бұрын
Средний вопрос олимпиады по математике в Юпитере
@oqui7009
@oqui7009 Жыл бұрын
Ключевое слово "известная". Всё легко и просто, когда известно. Жаль, что до людей не доходит элементарная вещь
@pandurangaraonimmagadda9966
@pandurangaraonimmagadda9966 Жыл бұрын
Answer : root of(3-2root2)=root 2-1
@sohamfam6233
@sohamfam6233 Ай бұрын
Difficulty level: America.... It's so simple math 😂
@Benjybass
@Benjybass Жыл бұрын
I fell asleep at 0:23.🥴
@IsaacAsimov1992
@IsaacAsimov1992 Жыл бұрын
Oh, that voice, that accent! ❤️
@priyanshisharma2750
@priyanshisharma2750 Жыл бұрын
This is actually really simple for an olympiad 😂
@sritam_mirdha
@sritam_mirdha Жыл бұрын
I have a backlog in math, so not a qualified person to address this, but any question is hard if you don't know the method to solve it. You know this already, sweetheart...❤
@mollaahmettesla
@mollaahmettesla 3 ай бұрын
It would be easier if she did it according to Dekart's rule.
@madmaxx5280
@madmaxx5280 Жыл бұрын
Even though she is flexing she got the answer wrong it should be 0 .414
@superman00001
@superman00001 Жыл бұрын
You’re clever and gorgeous ❤❤❤
@thevijaykumar
@thevijaykumar 3 ай бұрын
It's been 4 years since I graduated from college and I'm having a job and I could still solve it without using paper and pen.
@enes3573
@enes3573 Жыл бұрын
Bu soruları Türkiye'de ilkokul çocuğu çözüyor. Primary school children solve these questions in Turkey.
@kumardigvijaymishra5945
@kumardigvijaymishra5945 5 ай бұрын
Trick is in figuring out the algebraic identity applicable to the Olympiad question
@lilserotoninboost
@lilserotoninboost 6 ай бұрын
Please give any practical use of learning this?
@pavlecvoric5200
@pavlecvoric5200 Жыл бұрын
37 years ago I had this one i my final high schools exam
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 Ай бұрын
Ans: the square root of 2 minus 1 .. Took me like a half a minute lol
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@BenQotsa Жыл бұрын
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