On a side note, can we just appreciate the fact that Sakurai made mythra's down taunt one of the quotes from the Ardanian soldiers?
@halyoalex89423 жыл бұрын
I mean he did give shulk "now it's shulk time" as a taunt so I think it's safe to say he knows the xenoblade memes well enough.
@Oracle24_3 жыл бұрын
@@halyoalex8942 i always thought it was "now its showtime" 🤔
@freshlymemed56803 жыл бұрын
@@Oracle24_ It is now its showtime which I believe is an actual line in game. Would've been cool if the background characters in the Alrest Stage said things. Zeke shouting "Im really feeling it" with Shulk would be perfection.
“Coffee Pyra and milk Mythra” dont give me these ideas for fanart man
@matsurithetrueaegis60243 жыл бұрын
It’s one of the biggest memes in the xenoblade community, been so since the game came out
@Starfloofle3 жыл бұрын
and let's not forget mint tea
@SicklySeraph3 жыл бұрын
"Like coffee with milk?" - still the best line in the game
@MegabyteMusician3 жыл бұрын
“What sort of a….”
@insertgenericnamehere53223 жыл бұрын
oh no
@djzombiescout90993 жыл бұрын
"milk Mythra"- Luxin 2021
@GeorgeMV7193 жыл бұрын
I think Silver Mythra is a reference to Addam Origo (The original Driver of Mythra in the DLC), both have silver hair and golden eyes.
@billjohns59433 жыл бұрын
That could also mean that Pyra is ironically be referencing Mythra
@LP-bt2dt3 жыл бұрын
XENOBLADE Y HYPE IS REAL
@Zoroark_Master3 жыл бұрын
Addam outfit definitely match default Mythra the most.
@Xenosaga3 жыл бұрын
No it references Pokémon Gold and Silver
@erhanjpg14673 жыл бұрын
I think it’s Jin and Lora
@Dr.Farewell3 жыл бұрын
5:58 Just wanna correct this, sakurai has posted pictures of Xc1 stuff such as a model monado before even smash 4. So he was at least at fan of the first game
@ninjapotatolorf62373 жыл бұрын
Oh Sakurai is a HUGE Xenoblade fan in general
@shelbybayer2003 жыл бұрын
He's also a big fan Of the Persona series Which is why Joker was given an Invite to Smash and why the Mementos stage was put in with music from Persona 3, Persona 4 and Persona 5
@Ricken90003 жыл бұрын
@@shelbybayer200 Alt 5 are Pyra and Mythra dressed in the color scheme of Joker from Persona 5
@Pine21423 жыл бұрын
Still wish we got Gormotti Hoods for Pyra and Mythra
@Smickleschannel3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@cheke_hs3 жыл бұрын
Someone will mod them in. Lol
@seanallen27313 жыл бұрын
@@cheke_hs already happened
@AshuraKamui3 жыл бұрын
The gold and silver Pyra and Mythra might also be a reference to Golden Zanza and Silver Meyneth!
@ethanator60153 жыл бұрын
The fact that Pyra’s hairstyle resembles Zanza/Klaus’s has me convinced.
@TheEmperorHyperion3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanator6015 guess you could say she takes after her father.
@Creeper-ez4kn2 жыл бұрын
Its a nia and dromarch reference
@ὄντος2 жыл бұрын
@@Creeper-ez4kn no outfit 4 already did the nia reference.
@Frostflame3 жыл бұрын
I’m ashamed I never caught the Monado reference.
@AshElehaym3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I even main that alt specifically...
@Frostflame3 жыл бұрын
@@AshElehaym SO DO I
@angeldude1013 жыл бұрын
I was too busy getting salty over the fact that the alt changes Pyra's Core Crystal but not Mythra's to notice, but now I can definitely see it.
@limboprime59263 жыл бұрын
I use that alt because I thought it was a monado reference but I never noticed that mythra was no7
@GyvaterazMN3 жыл бұрын
It might also be a reference to the Verus Skell in XCX as that one also uses that colorscheme and it would also fit the whole mech referencing theme of the latter alts
@wwld98233 жыл бұрын
"the evil color scheme doesn't make sense for welltall" *incinerates Lahan village* just a prank bro Also I'm pretty sure sakurai did not want to explicitly say "xenogears" to avoid the square enix ninjas
@thesilenthills68013 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering if Costume #7 is maybe a reference to Future Connected. Pyra is the Monado Replica EX and Mythra is the World Ender (Melia's new staff). That's the closest match I can think of for Mythra that would connect to the Monado.
@grr693 жыл бұрын
Or , they're a reverence to Shulk and Melia , in future connected .
@justinjoestar19022 жыл бұрын
Mythra is definitely a reference to Nia’s blade form in Xc2
@brendanirvine60883 жыл бұрын
How did Among Us, T-posing, and milking Mythra end up in the same video
@shylight97313 жыл бұрын
Gold/Silver could also be a reference to Zanza and Meyneth. Pyra even has a similar hairstyle to Zanza!
@metroidcypher3 жыл бұрын
glad to see a video that actually understands the references and is not made without research like all the smash channels are doing
@Jax_Two Жыл бұрын
The gold and silver skin is a reference to XC3's N and M. With N being the golden consul and having gold armor, and M having silver armor and hair. (probably not, but it's fun to think of it that way.)
@cowboybarbaryn13025 ай бұрын
Almost certainly not cuz they came out before XC3 was even announced but it’s still really cool
@Chuggsy223 жыл бұрын
I remember first seeing the skins and thinking to myself "Man, a KOS-MOS/T-elos skin would have been so cool..."
@Wexter00833 жыл бұрын
They probably could not do it because it would had been too on the nose. I mean I'm sure Bandai Namco would have approved it as they helped with the development of both Smash Wii U/3DS and Smash Ultimate... but Sakurai probably did not want to use that reference as he may had not played Xenosaga.. who knows Sakurai works in mysterious ways.
@Chuggsy223 жыл бұрын
@@Wexter0083 perhaps-but it would still have made for a pretty neat reference.
@elinacarmina30502 жыл бұрын
I think someone on gamebanana already made that mod.
@krimson6632 Жыл бұрын
Sakurai made N and M costumes before 3 even came out, he is truly a genius...
@aguyontheinternet1380 Жыл бұрын
😱😱😱
@Rikisballs Жыл бұрын
He's trying to chef it up like Takahashi
@XenoOntos3 жыл бұрын
Gold Pyra may be a reference to the place holder image for the artwork when pulling a rare blade which was of a gold Pyra. dummy_createblade_rare_0
@yukotrey94223 жыл бұрын
8:28 bruh. We all know that the Aegis is the 500 year old knock off of poppi.
@Touhou1013 жыл бұрын
I'm still convincing myself that the "evil" pallete is Kill La Kill Ryuko lol
@Neoxon6193 жыл бұрын
Actually, we have a general timeframe for Fighter Pass Vol. 2's finalization. The pass itself was greenlit around the time of E3 2019 according to industry insider Imran, with the actual characters being locked in by November of that year according to Sakurai (mentioned during the Byleth presentation, which was recorded on November 2019).
@Onixism363 жыл бұрын
Hey Luxin are you going to talk some of the unique quote's Gramp have on the stage.
@ltb13453 жыл бұрын
And here I thought the “dark evil” alts were referencing mechon.
@tonberry26703 жыл бұрын
I figured it was Malos, although he has more purple colors
@jaidora3 жыл бұрын
I think Pyra’s white and blue alt can refer to Rex’s Overdrive outfit. It looks really similar if you look at the two sprites together, the enhanced Rex spirit and Pyra’s color scheme.
@connorlego52293 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe you spoiled mythra, how dare you /s
@billystokes39173 жыл бұрын
Oh no, it's almost like Mythra was revealed in a trailer for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and the game released in 2018 or late 2017...
@LifeAsAPotato3 жыл бұрын
wow he literally said it was sarcasm and you still didnt take it as such, im honestly impressed
@hakirayleigh3 жыл бұрын
@@billystokes3917 Your sarcasm detector is really screwed up.
@billystokes39173 жыл бұрын
@@LifeAsAPotato Welcome to the wonderful world of being a puppet and not being able to realise sarcasm.
@billystokes39173 жыл бұрын
@@hakirayleigh I'm a puppet, old design, so I don't have a sarcasm detector yet. I can barely read.
@aegisring3 жыл бұрын
"Pyra and mythra fighting in sync". Heh, I see what you did there
@mrkicks78173 жыл бұрын
I honestly never realized the Monado reference. Sakurai probably didn't talk about that since it would mean also talking about Mythra.
@Achiyugo3 жыл бұрын
If Pyra/Mythra are Trinity Processors and the conduit is the PSU, what does that make, Rex? Is he a graphics card?
@kevinr.97333 жыл бұрын
Obviously, he's a driver. He's allowing a device (a processor, in this case) to interact with the operating system (reality).
@faithjolley60343 жыл бұрын
Yea I mean. Pyra and Mythra can exist without a driver because they're peocessors... so Rex isn't really even a part of the equation? She chooses to stay his blade because (spoiler alert) she loves him, not because she's reliant on his existence like other blades. So he's more of a pretty accessory than anything else. Something that's not necessary, but makes you happy. (That came across weird, I love Rex lots I promise)
@JacobNintendoNerd993 жыл бұрын
Conduit/Zohar isn’t just the PSU, it’s also the source code
@aaronlefebre50603 жыл бұрын
@@kevinr.9733 NGL, that was a pretty clever answer. I like it!
@billystokes39173 жыл бұрын
Nope, Rex is just a driver so he doesn't really go into the equation. Amalthus (The one who awakened Malos) and Sever (Malos' blade) don't really go into the equation since Malos/Logos is also a Trinity Processor.
@Roy_In_A_Safe_Space3 жыл бұрын
Alongside pyra looking like the monado,Mythra resembles World ender.
@kallianaidonidis8383 жыл бұрын
We rly ended the video w/ “milk Mythra” 👁👄👁
@marcoasturias85203 жыл бұрын
I love how blonde Pyra looks. You could say she is... Smashing...
@drakath57273 жыл бұрын
7:40 Im pretty sure the blue skin changes mythra's core crystal to a blue on the artwork but im not sure about in-game, while skin 7 changes pyra's to a blue core crystal.
@adamdenner8673 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the Mythra alt 7 reminds me heavily of Melia (the red highlights tying into her Future Connected weapon). Only reserve I have there is that her hair isn't tinted to match.
@BaugipGames3 жыл бұрын
Was sad when Sakurai didn't mention Weltall in the presentation. Then I realized it was probably because of liscencing issues.
@pickledapplez Жыл бұрын
For the sixth costume Mythra’s core crystal is actually a light blue instead of a cyan sea foam kind of thing so they each have two castanets with different colored core crystals
@MikeDaddyMCS3 жыл бұрын
I’m never calling it anything but Coffee and Milk alt again lmao
@jacksonw95143 жыл бұрын
I think sky blue is just a reference to the master driver outfit
@matthewhenry863 жыл бұрын
M I L K M Y T H R A
@lohotuz3 жыл бұрын
I think the 6th alt could reference Master Driver Rex
@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven3 жыл бұрын
Man, I don't know how to refer to Pneuma any more. I'd ordinarily keep using the spoiler-avoidance name but given that everyone who plays Smash now knows her by her real name I fear that that might even be more spoilery. I guess calling her Pneuma in a Smash context and the spoiler-avoidance name in a Xenoblade context might be best? Also, I was originally Team Poppi but after mulling it over for a week or so I definitely think the purple skin is Weltall. The colour scheme matches up way more closely, and we all know Sakurai's usually pretty darn careful with his alt skin colour schemes.
@DarthLocutus03 жыл бұрын
I KNEW IT!!! I *knew* I wasn't the only one who caught the P6 reference!!!!
@turtlebugs28593 жыл бұрын
For the metallic colors, ive seen people make connections to klaus and galea. With pyra being klaus and mythra being galea. Its a bit of a stretch with pyra, but galea has silver hair and a white coat, and mythra has silver hair and white clothes. Pyra definitely resembles the conduit a lot more that klaus, but with his connections to the conduit it does still make sense. Edit: I completely forgot about zanza, pyra looks like zanza in this costume. mythra still looks more like galea than meyneth but they are basically the same person so close enough.
@kos-mos20843 жыл бұрын
Huh I thought Mythra #6 was the Trinity processor colours. She has the colours of all Aegis cores but I agree with the Pyra Omnigear Weltall reference! And #5 is clear as day Weltall. I mostly caught everything else you said except the Coffee and Milk thing.... which would be hilarious. I actually do think it is 100% the Zohar though... maybe Mythra as a Kirchwasser or Proto Omega silver since it does have the Zohar at one point. I didn't think about Albedo hah. Too bad Sakurai will never say cause of legal reasons. Isn't it also strange KOS-MOS wasn't referenced even once? No mii costume, no spirit, no alt colour. It's pretty strange to me since she's the brainchild of Monolith Soft. My hope is that since we got the fighter spirits for Pyra and Mythra with their figurine art that maybe Namco will have asked for KOS-MOS and we could get Tanaka's KOS-MOS art on the figurine box realized in smash as well. However, it would sure feel strange to have two Xeno series in the pass so I guess that wont happen.
@BaoZakeruga3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for actuality doing your research. First one I've seen from someone that did. Great video.
@corvus93593 жыл бұрын
I think for #7, Pyra is supposed to represent the Monado 1/2, and Mythra is supposed to represent Zanza's Monado. All the colours are there, and Zanza's Monado is basically the unsealed version of that Monado, and it goes with the theme of Mythra being the unsealed version of Pyra.
@gunsandroses8963 жыл бұрын
The 7th alt for Mythra also brings to mind 7 from Xenoblade Chronicles.
@extremmefan73053 жыл бұрын
I think for the 6th palette, Pyra is the Xenogears while Mythra is Deus (with the black leggings potentially just trying to make a difference between the two and make it clear one is the antagonistic one) Edit: I got another one, this time for the 8th palette: what if, while Pyra is the Zohar from Xenosaga, Mythra was meant to ressemble XC2's equivalent of it known as the Conduit? The varying shades of grey could be trying to emphasize the greens of her core crystal through contrast while still referencing how bright the Conduit seems to be shining in its appearance, and the black leggings are just leftover from default, leaving the greens being kept as is to complete the look.
@bonehead87843 жыл бұрын
14:03 there's no escape
@xenopizza105092 жыл бұрын
I CANT UNSEE
@AndrewsArchives62513 жыл бұрын
I believe alt 6 was just a reference to Rex's master driver outfit since its all just basically white with blue and green highlights. Tho idk where the red would have come from could be just smash wanting it to pop more. Also sad there technically isn't a kos-mos alt, would have loved having that nod in there but guess this is as close as well get unless there saving her for later in the pass but heavily doubt it.
@HoldenDude1232 жыл бұрын
Other people: Catching up with Gears and Saga for Xenoblade 3 Me: Catching up with Gears and Saga to watch every Luxin Spoilsr video
@ScarlettCaelin3 жыл бұрын
Can we appreciate for a moment that the Jin spirit is Cloud instead of Sephiroth. Like, Sephiroth and Jin are so very close and they didn't do it.
@meltryllis27163 жыл бұрын
jin and cloud have the same japanese voice actor, so it kind of makes sense. plus this way his spirit battle can be played by people who own the pyra+mythra but not the sephiroth dlc packs.
@monadoboy96393 жыл бұрын
I'm just now understanding the coffee with milk joke I found the cutscene I've been confused for years about this lol
@VivioSaf3 жыл бұрын
That one on the end ... Definitely why Sakurai chose to clarify it as Goden and Silver!
@KittazziCrafter3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the alts are the only thing I was disappointed with about Pyra and Mythra. I was really hoping that we'd get alts that referenced their other party members in XC2 similar to how shulks alts reference his. They could keep the pneuma alt, color swap alt, and add in alts for all of the XC2 party members and still have an extra alt left to do whatever they want with. I personally would have preferred that a lot more than "colors that pop" and silver and gold.
@CatOfTheRisingSun3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the fifth color scheme, the dark one, kinda reminds me me of Kill La Kill.
@BeeLy10112 жыл бұрын
Xenosaga spoilers end at 12:40 There is like one frame of gameplay there but it's probably fine OOC
@3XHS3 жыл бұрын
I’m starved for X references so I’m going to assume alt 8 pyra is Original and alt 8 mythra is Ultra Diamond/Nebulan
@nicholasphelps88043 жыл бұрын
It's also possible that Golden Pyra references the Zohar, while Silver Mythra could also reference the metallic Lifeholds
@16ktsgamma3 жыл бұрын
Mostly X doesn't exist. What about those spirits for X.
@darlingana92493 жыл бұрын
The spirits that don't even use X music for their battles? 🤨
@Kool-Jay3 жыл бұрын
@@darlingana9249 A lot of XCX music was composed by Hiroyuki Sawano, so their would be constraints if they could use that music. Nintendo would have to ask him personally if they could use the music.
@totalradlad3 жыл бұрын
Those spirits aren't even in World of Light.
@16ktsgamma3 жыл бұрын
@@totalradlad World of Light sucks anyway.
@totalradlad3 жыл бұрын
@@16ktsgamma Way better for a spirit to go there than to be relegated to the spirit board.
@BlazingBlueSwords3 жыл бұрын
How about doing a Spirit Battle references for the Xenoblade series in Smash Ultimate Luxin?
@di11pi113 жыл бұрын
Yo nice thumbnail just thought you deserved the praise
@stilldamaged39453 жыл бұрын
i personally see the 8th alt being a Lora and Jin alt.
@Scraggy.The.Scrapper3 жыл бұрын
Maybe
@Wlightning253 жыл бұрын
Milk Mythra ;)
@BlueDude873 жыл бұрын
Your last description of Alt 8 killed me. Lol.
@thenamelessnpc10003 жыл бұрын
@~2:10 it's actually not a different model, just new textures. I've been playing around with Mythra's model, which is why I know that. Great video!
@Pr0t4t02 жыл бұрын
4:07 Sure this isn’t Lora and Jin?
@zacharytiatto65602 жыл бұрын
I honestly saw the Gold/Silver Pyra/Mythra skin as Nia and Dromarch
@luc49073 жыл бұрын
13:38 Never thought about this... Well I guess i'll be using this costume more from now on
@ProfessorXenoblade3 жыл бұрын
Coffee Pyra and Milky Mythra
@eur0be4t3r2 ай бұрын
13:13 thought he was gonna say Iron Man
@areallymeanperson3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the "evil" alt was a reference to carbon mythra
@boohoo7233 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's absolutely Weltall. It lines up way too well for it to be anything else.
@billystokes39173 жыл бұрын
I thought it was supposed to be Malos, and if they decided to make the core crystal purple, then it definitely would've been a Malos reference.
@AelTheRomulan2 жыл бұрын
I gotta poke some lighthearted fun: You: "Getting out of spoilers -" You, five seconds later: "Just a sword" Me: *gestures at specifically updated necklaces and cool cross-universe brothers*
@Dieozam3 жыл бұрын
You just had to unleash a Milkers Myrtha meme you know what you're doingggg lmfaooo
@blaketempest66962 жыл бұрын
7:38 Ahh yes kill la kill reference
@Nerdinyan3 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking the black alt was a reference to Malos, but then I realised if they were gonna reference Malos, they'd probavly use something closer to the Carbon Mythra DLC costume.
@samuelwilliams6633 жыл бұрын
This might be a huge reach but I think the costume 5 (the villianous outfit) resembles T-elos from Xenosaga while costume 6 (the sky blue outfit) resembles "Arc system works" characters: Justice from Guilty Gear (Pyra) and Mu-12 from Blazblue (Mythra). Again, it's a huge reach.
@rufflefpv3 жыл бұрын
To me, Mythra looks more like Seven than Catalyst
@JayMehKay3 жыл бұрын
I think that Alt 5 is referenced after Persona 5/P5 Strikers, and I think this because at the same day Pyra and Mythra were released, people who bought P5 Strikers(Which I believe launched on the same day as Pythra) got a spirit from P5 Strikers.
@Lazer_Specter3 жыл бұрын
That Pyra costume that you said was bothering you has some resemblance to the Pneuma-like costume that you mentioned earlier that is in Xenoblade 2 just minus the mint green hair.
@AlexxxMYLSince2013 Жыл бұрын
7:05 Oh that aged like milk.
@simonbergeron32813 жыл бұрын
For the gold and silver alt., it could also be a reference to the Goldmouth titan and the Argentum Trade Guild (argentum is latin for silver).
@ben_sisko21493 жыл бұрын
Sakurai explained the references himself lol, We really need actual news from this saga...
@Wexter00833 жыл бұрын
I think Monolith have hinted that a Xenoblade project was in pre-development last year. Don't forget they do help Nintendo with other big franchises (Zelda BotW2) and are working on a New IP so they probably don't have a full team working on it yet. Let's not forget Torna was released in September 2018 and Xenoblade Definitive Edition just came out last year so we've had a fair bit of Xeno content since Xenoblade 2 in 2017 and these are big games with long development times. And while we've been spoiled with Xeno content on the Switch I'd rather not have this milked into a yearly franchise. Based on this release pattern of [ Xenoblade (Wii) 2010 -> Xenoblade X (Wii U) 2015 -> Xenoblade 2 (Switch) 2017 -> Xenoblade Definitive Edition (Switch) 2020 ] we will probably see Xenoblade 3/X2 sometime in 2022 at the earliest if not 2023.
@brakromlord5197 Жыл бұрын
For costume 7 pyra, her core crystal Turing blue could be a reference to the fact that’s she’s effectively mythra’s blade, so her core turns blue to match every other blade
@SeraphOC3 жыл бұрын
2:42 Pyra: building up speed to break through to parallel universes.
@Kool-Jay3 жыл бұрын
Did you know, commenting helps out Luxin, just like hitting the like button? Also 6:44 nice
@cjthenarhwalking13782 жыл бұрын
The blue on costume 7 for pyra could be a reference to the other blades in XC 2 which all have blue core crystals
@TheWeeabooKid3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this!!!!!
@zettokuzuuya68442 жыл бұрын
I thought for a bit they were referenceing kas-mos and talos (I only know them from projext x zone sadly)
@zjones21502 жыл бұрын
I though the evil color referenced one half of artifice Aion and he didn't say that because major spoilers.
@spookysteel2 жыл бұрын
that black costume i always saw as a character from BoFuri
@ryanburnett2591 Жыл бұрын
The dark costumes remind me a bit of A. Esp because of the red core crystal. Obviously not 1to1 though
@julienandrus41693 жыл бұрын
Lets Go New Video!
@kyero8724 Жыл бұрын
Purple and Red is a reference to Kill la Kill
@artemis2227 Жыл бұрын
The eigth costume reminds me of #7 and Melia from Xenoblade 1
@Cobalt_3753 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you already mentioned this in a video, if so I will gladly go and watch that, but *Spoilers* Is Alvis the third Aigis? I can see how he could be considered to be, not to mention the fact that Malos has a Monado and if you REALLY stretch the definition you could consider Pneuma to have a monado as well. Plus Alvis's necklace looks a lot like the aigis core crystal. I haven't finished XC1, but I pretty much know the spoiler about the monado being his to a basic degree.
@kevinr.97333 жыл бұрын
He has a ~37 minute in-depth video on the subject of the third Aegis (simply titled "Ontos"), as well as videos on the two Aegises we know and the Monado. I'd recommend giving all three a watch (starting with the Monado, ending with Ontos) once you finish the game. Also, a note about the necklace: They actually changed it in Definitive Edition; it was a key in the original.
@Cobalt_3753 жыл бұрын
@@kevinr.9733 Ah, I didn't know about the change to definitive edition. Anyway, thank you, I'll have to go check those out.
@Arthirias3 жыл бұрын
Alt-5 could also be a reference to Xenogears' Miang Hawwa(Pyra)/The Mother (Mythra)
@ArcaneEther2 жыл бұрын
In a perfect world where copyright infringement wasn't such a hot button issue, we'd have a costume where Pyra is wearing Shion's Vector uniform and Mythra is wearing KOS-MOS's armor.
@thestarhopper2 жыл бұрын
tbh the darkish purple outfits did remind me of Malos at first
@dashisneat3 жыл бұрын
Ace Attorney Spoilers: Mythra at 3:03 gives me serious Mimi Miney vibes tbh
@jswizzle65363 жыл бұрын
Or GOLD and SILVER Pyra and Mythra could be a reference to one of the best Pokémon games