Luxury + 3 Rows + 8,200 lbs of Towing = 2022 Land Rover Discovery

If you're in the market for a go-anywhere three row, you have only a few options, the Discovery, the Land Rover Defender or a Jeep Grand Cherokee L. So should you have disco fever or go for the Jeep? Let's find out.
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[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, It took 59 full seconds 0:59 for you to slip in a reference to the Durango. You need to work on that 😉

[@bryanenglish7841]

In future reviews, I'd really love to see some kind of seat width measurement. This is really important for people like me with kids in car seats.

[@carynmcentee6725]

Follow "The Car Mom". She will tell you about latch points and tether anchors but I do agree with you that I wish more car reviewers will talk about car seat setups.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

This is something we've done in the past and will be bringing back shortly.

[@moozillamoo2109]

YES! Every car gives legroom measurements...why? For 99% of people legroom is never an issue.

[@markmiller3279]

@@moozillamoo2109 Front legroom maybe not. Many of us who put adults (or teens) in the back need to know rear or combined legroom.

[@torocars9227]

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Munro Associates released a video covering Rivian seats . It was shocking and informative video where they said, some spend $ more into making seats than entire power train of a van.

[@ChristopherB806]

Your reviews are simply the best! 👍👌

[@nirszi]

Owned and love both this and the Jeep GCL. You can't go wrong with either. Both for towing and off road.

[@abbermudez6051]

I have a discovery 2018 HSE Luxury. It’s a beautiful truck and feels powerful. That being said, my wife and I are getting to get rid of it and switching it out for a suburban or even Sienna XSE. 3rd row is very small and my younger children aren’t getting any smaller, I’ve had various issues varying from water dripping from the front windshield to the steering locking up. Lastly and more specific to me, the nearest Land Rover dealer is terrible.

[@moozillamoo2109]

"[T]he nearest Land Rover dealer is terrible." That seems to be very common. They are too used to catering to the super rich. In an ideal world run by logic, Land Rover should not even exist. Most of the people (outside of the super rich) drive them for love of these quirky, illogical vehicles.

[@naveenthemachine]

Going from a discovery to a sienna XSE sounds like a downgrade

[@damilolaakanni]

The asymmetrical thing in the rear is kinda a throwback to the Discovery 1 and 2. Those had that setup because the spare tyre was mounted on the tailgate, so a part of the rear glass had to be redesigned to allow for better visibility. However the LR3 and LR4 moved the spare tyre to the bottom of the car, and did not need that design but kept them anyway.

[@genius2000]

it still worked very well with LR3 and LR4 cuz they are boxy but on this, it just looks odd.

[@petehelme7714]

yeah, the majority of people have no idea why the offset exists, so they are put off by it.

[@weirdshibainu]

Happy 4th Alex. Thanks for the reviews.

[@Poorgeniu5]

Nice! A new tractor!

[@dhruvb38]

Would be nice to have video chapters

[@dmitryprokorym5093]

Alex, do you know if a factory brake controller is available?

[@damilolaakanni]

17:40 I thought BMW dropped the three row X5 for the X7...

[@jayliu1108]

Could you include the payload range of the car in the review?

[@amalfi460]

Bet it will be towed as much as it tows

[@brohammer]

😂

[@TylerDunlap-xp5gz]

Sir, do you have any idea how much engineering they have put into making that I6 unreliable? It's not easy you know!

[@niffrig]

I miss the command seating in the second row that the LR4 had.

[@tyusrobinson9869]

I sat in this at the auto show and you sit so low in the rear :(

[@vadim9342]

I don't want to be that guy, but I used to own a 2018 Discovery. I now own a 2021 GX460 and honestly, I'm never going back to Land Rover. I don't know if others understand me?

[@markmiller3279]

Land Roger's dire reliability record is well known. With all the added complexity of this it is likely even worse.

[@james2042]

Thought it was an old Benz MLB from the thumbnail

[@Atl404sFinest]

Discovery HSE or Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve?

[@alia.alsafar2978]

Review LX600 Please

[@allenliu6655]

Someone let me know if I’m wrong, I felt like I heard this story if Land Rover’s new turbo 6s are from BMW like a year ago?

[@valdius85]

I want that arm rest in my Forester :)

[@pipin447]

Me encanta

[@Travler-xr]

1. Correction: Adaptive cruise control is standard 2. Pricing video not in playlist (but separately recommended by KZbin )

[@GreenMountian]

What did you use as your back-up/get home vehicle? Can’t go anywhere in a RR w/o a backup plan.

[@eddiejones.redvees]

My brother in law had the diesel discover 1 a few years ago nice to ride in but slow and unreliable and started rusting in places he has only bought BMW after the rover he is on his fifth one the X3 2.0 diesel he got new after a 6 month wait last year it’s definitely better but to getter then Land Rover also being a hybrid 45 mpg his average

[@bird718]

dunno what to make of this disovery?

[@chineduiyegbu2076]

Finally found someone who shares my opinion about blacked out wheels...I just don't like them, thanks Alex.

[@ThatCivilGuy]

Are you sure that’s not a full size spare? It looks like a 5th matching wheel, which is common on high spec Land Rovers.

[@afcgeo882]

A space saver narrow tire is standard. A full-size wheel is an option, but ordering it creates a lifted trunk floor, which takes away quite a lot of usable space.

[@petehelme7714]

@@afcgeo882 don't think so, the spare space is the same full size or not. I have one and my floor is not raised at all.

[@banjomactavish]

⁠@@petehelme7714yep I can vouch for that. Mine has a full size and definitely no floor raising

[@BBlackmen]

She's no match for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L when it comes to spacing or interior but she can definitely tow

[@jomyjoseph1294]

Defender 130 would be a better comparison.

[@valdius85]

Why would you compare vehicles of different size ?

[@SimonStrother]

If only Volkswagen still sold the Touareg. It was the perfect non land Rover, European option that gave you great ride and handling, in addition to respectable off road performance and amazing towing of 7200lbs, no matter what engine you chose. The new ones over in Europe would certainly kill the newest offerings from Land Rover and Jeep if they ever made their way back to our shores. Here's to hoping 🥺.

[@damilolaakanni]

They still do...not just in North America. But for what they were they were pretty good off road, and very luxurious, but expensive as a result.

[@valdius85]

Why Toyota doesn’t make a competition for Dicso/Defender? Something capable and square in an unibody structure

[@huanronghu4432]

They don't need a unibody structure because people would rather have a body on frame. and with the new redesigned Lexus GX550 (luxury version of the land cruiser prado), it can now tow a max of 8000 pounds with its detuned twin turbo v6 (up from 6500 from the v8 GX460) from the LX and it always had 3 row of seats (now u can choose to delete them in some trims)

[@valdius85]

@@huanronghu4432 A unibody of this size would offer much more space inside and better fuel efficiency. I do not hate on BOF from Toyota, they are legends. I just don't understand that there are no unibody off-roaders from Toyota.

[@huanronghu4432]

@@valdius85 mmm judging by the legroom of the "unibody" defender and the discovery, its basically similar to the lexus gx. so even if toyota were to make a unibody off roader( such as maybe the compact cruiser but rumors have it that that may be BOF afterall), it would not be much more spacious, if at all, for both leg and headroom. if you are frequently carrying a third passenger, then okay yeah the middle seat in a unibody will likely be more spacious due to the hump being almost completely flat

[@valdius85]

@@huanronghu4432 The trunk volume is much greater in unibody. Fuel efficiency as well. More people care about these two than towing capacity. So there is a need in the market for a unibody off-roader for overloading.

[@dretech]

Please remind me how often you'd like to visit Land Rover dealership before you plan to buy/lease this SUV😆

[@bikingmoments]

It intrigues me when these euro luxury brands will make acc standard across their lines lol, or they simply keep overcharging rich buyers forever

[@valdius85]

LR keeps rebranding their models. Current Defender should be a new gen Discovery. Disco Sport is a Freelander. No idea what is the current Disco, since the previous one was boxy and the new one looses that styling. It is weird strategy. Just add a new model, it is fine to have two vehicles of similar size that target different customers. There is a space in a market for a new body on frame, decent unibody AWD and luxurious SUV. Nothing wrong with all of them. Generally speaking I’d say someone who cares about low speed transfer case would appreciate more practical boxy design and that customer would also describe luxury on a different way. I am that kind of customer. I do t care about screens everywhere but would love to have cooled seats in my next vehicle. LR styling is amazing and I wished they reach out to people who would ordinary look for Land Cruiser.

[@trevorsutherland5263]

If you are not an off-roader, this is a total waste of your money; you are spending coin for things you'll never use. For road use only, a $53K Buick Enclave Avenir utterly destroys this in every way (or get the Traverse High Country 4WD and save $3K). Those can tow 5.000lb and if you really need to tow 8,000lb, you 'aint buying any of these anyway.

[@naveenthemachine]

Nah a Kia telluride or palisade destroy all of those

[@skywalker68]

Two person I know have Range Rover and Land Rover could get rid of fast enough!!!! Lol

[@yankeexpress]

Can’t get past the poor quality. Rather have a Land Bruiser or Durango.

[@genius2000]

Land Bruiser🤣

[@SilverScarletSpider]

The best thing about luxury cars is air conditioned seats.

[@gregkramer5588]

Most (maybe all) are ventilated not air conditioned. It is a feature I love. I first had it in my 2016 Sonata.

[@damilolaakanni]

Our 2012 GX460 has heated and ventilated seats...10 years and 42k+ miles later, they still work perfectly.

[@afcgeo882]

You can get ventilated seats in many non-luxury cars like Rav4s, Tucsons, etc.

[@gregkramer5588]

@@afcgeo882 Yep, even the Seltos.

[@petehelme7714]

you can get these with massage seats too, can't in the Defender series.

[@tomdrummy4984]

Did you say how much it can tow or how often it will be towed ? 🤣

[@chiemekaa]

The cargo hold is a joke. The only way to carry people and stuff is to sacrifice one one split in the 3rd row. While I understand LR's philosophy regarding passenger comfort, it shouldn't come at the expense of basically all cargo or making an already tall vehicle even taller by attaching a cargo carrier on top. I don't even think you could fit a stroller behind the 3rd row!

[@markmiller3279]

I think it's intended as a part-time third row. For a family with two or three kids it will be roomy enough, and they can bring two more kids on the school run or home from the soccer game. It's not the only SUV like that.

[@chiemekaa]

@@markmiller3279 True, but a lot of mid-sized ones have figured out a better passenger to cargo compromise.

[@mexmachina]

That's your choice to make. We sacrificed the space in the rear for being able to sit adults in the rear. The 3rd row is not child-sized pretend seats. Our thinking was if we are carrying 7 people outside of the city we aren't going to have enough space with anything on the market. The 3rd row has a higher stadium seating config so it doesn't feel claustrophobic. Each will make their own compromises

[@valdius85]

It is an European vehicle. It is already too big for many fancy posh villages in the UK :) These seats are an emergency seats. :)

[@rob.halpin]

Love it, but as gasoline heads toward $7 a gallon... Hmmm... Not sure I want to spend $150 per fill up. Oh, and if the main goals of this vehicle is comfort, luxury, and off road capability... why on earth did they throw 21" wheels on it???

[@petehelme7714]

you can get 20"s still for 2024. but I think the 19" are no more.

[@Ethan7s]

Looks like a Chevy

[@afcgeo882]

The Discovery sells dismally because it’s flanked by the more potent Defender 110 and 130 and the properly luxurious Range Rover Sport. Considering its price, there’s just not enough room for it to exist.

[@markmiller3279]

It's not like any of them actually sell in meaningful numbers. The brand's reputation is just too poor.

[@tyusrobinson9869]

Plus the interior on this was kinda trash until they recently refreshed this. And it's kinda ugly lmao

[@afcgeo882]

@@markmiller3279 The Range Rover Sport sells in incredible numbers, actually, despite its reputation. Defender sales aren’t horrible either. We’re talking about 20-25k, depending on the year for the Range Rover Sport and about 20k for the Defender (90 and 110 combined). That’s a lot, for such expensive, niche cars. The Discovery has been selling about 6-7000 per year.

[@petehelme7714]

"More potent" because... Defender styling? The bigger Disco (not the Disco Sport) actually makes more sense for most people around town: same basic platform, except for approach and departure angles off-road capability is similar, better MPG as it's less blocky, more flat cargo space (130 7-seater floor has a huge bump), higher-end interior and seating more akin to FFRR and RRS, more practical lift gate vs narrow side opening gate. And it's cheaper.

[@afcgeo882]

@@petehelme7714 More potent because it can off-road better and provides 3 different lengths to fit the needs, including the 130, which has far more space for people and cargo than the Discovery.

[@shanet7511]

A new 6 cylinder motor and the additional complexity of a mild hybrid system and Land Rover was only able to get 15HP more out of this powertrain than the 3.0L V6 supercharged motor?? What a joke.

[@markmiller3279]

I suspect the mild hybrid is there for fuel economy rather than performance. Mild hybrids just don't add that much power - nowhere near what a supercharger can add.

[@shanet7511]

@@markmiller3279 with some Google searches it appears it is rated literally only 1 mpg higher despite the new engine and additional hybrid complexity

[@oceanzu6585]

land rover needs to update the dicso, this design is getting old

[@MeanNGreen17]

Not a fan of the two part review at all.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

A shame there is no more diesel option, would be much better with the fuel inflation.

[@petehelme7714]

the TD6 they used to use here was good; miss mine. they still have great diesels in the UK which sadly they won't import to the U.S. because "reasons."

[@cargeek6139]

First

[@Reu_ag]

Looks weird

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

Always nice to see the Indians taking it into the Europeans

[@ancientevil8044]

I just don't get it, Land Rover's are NOTORIOUS for having HORRIBLE build quality, why you or anyone else armed with that knowledge willingly drop tens of thousands of dollars on one is beyond me. Does that just not bother you or what, and if it doesn't, why doesn't it?

[@JTR253]

Tax breaks.

[@TotallyJoel]

Aren't they known to be unreliable?

[@Alvan81]

But It's Alex on Autos, not Alex on Reliability or Durability. People have complex reasons why they 'drop thousands and thousands". And build qualty is only one of them. There are several Brands that have less than stellar reliability and build, but we still like to see their specs/ features..

[@CeeJay591]

Alex has stated many times that he does not rate or care much about reliability ratings. This is why he did not even bother comparing this vehicle to the GX460, an SUV that, while a bit outdated, can last way over 100k miles and for years and years, with only regular maintenance. Instead, we’ll hear loads about the Volvo XC90 or Jeep products, which are also better bad reliability-wise.

[@nicholasbabeaux2052]

Because if you lease it then you don’t have to worry about reliability. Free maintenance is included, and if you have problems they’re going to just give you another Range Rover to drive and put miles on and beat on rather than your own lease…Have leased several BMW’s, no major issues but probably 5 weeks in Loaner cars over each 36 months lease. Have had 3 Jaguars, most recent was 2013 XJ, pretty damn reliable up to 130k miles, but the newer JLR’s have more issues..

[@alia.alsafar2978]

Review LX600 Please