Luxury Brands Producing Own Fakes?! A Deep Dive Into the Dark Side of Luxury Conspiracy Theories

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@Mommyingthis
@Mommyingthis Жыл бұрын
I will concur some.we have a family friend (billionaire)… lives in the pelican hill estate mansions along with several properties across the country. She has a few real chanel, birkins, LVs, etc. Like a handful or so. BUT has several fakes too. She finds it dumb to overspend on those types of things rather than real estate, actual diamonds, business investments, etc. Makes sense I guess from that perspective. No one would ever expect her fake Kelly is fake since her 5 carat diamond and lambo is real. Save that 15k and go invest it? Maybe that’s why she’s a billionaire 🤷🏻‍♀️
@nattiex3735
@nattiex3735 Жыл бұрын
No need to be upset if the fake gets ruined or stolen.
@DaniefromCanada
@DaniefromCanada Жыл бұрын
It's true.
@KaliKali-hv9bt
@KaliKali-hv9bt Жыл бұрын
Oh interesting! Thanks for sharing that.
@puppybownerdycupcake5516
@puppybownerdycupcake5516 Жыл бұрын
Why you post where she lives making her A target ? Your not very smart at all. Setting her up need to delete the location.
@Mommyingthis
@Mommyingthis Жыл бұрын
@@puppybownerdycupcake5516 pelican estates are large and every home is a mansion there if anyone who knows knows. So it doesn’t matter. They are all millionaires and billionaires there. No one knows who I am speaking of.
@chrissylekas
@chrissylekas Жыл бұрын
I know FIRST HAND that some “fake” Chanel appears and feels the same as “authentic” bags- my best friend has a bunch of real & fake and some of the fakes are better quality literally.. They’re called “super fakes” and it would make a lot of sense if they were made in the same factory
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 Жыл бұрын
the brands have only themselves to blame for creating artificial hype over products so cheaply made
@DaniefromCanada
@DaniefromCanada Жыл бұрын
@@seabreeze4559 I agree. Pretty sad.
@OldMoneyMadness
@OldMoneyMadness Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s crazy how good a super fake can be
@lg8723
@lg8723 Жыл бұрын
Luxury items should be distinguished and identified by their superior quality and craftsmanship and not by their label and price tags...
@dee24874
@dee24874 Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@mikeg8276
@mikeg8276 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the actual brands are counterfeiting, but I do think there are reasons why we’re seeing counterfeit quality meet and even exceed European brands: 1) Chinese workers are being brought to France and Italy with visas and even in boats offshore to produce in those countries so the brands can say they’re made in Europe while paying less for labor. Then those Chinese workers see their visas expire, they have to leave, and a new group is brought in. Eventually you have thousands of Chinese nationals trained in European leather making. They can then seek employment at counterfeiters. 2) A lot of elements of some brands and bags are being made in China, and only the finishing elements are done in Europe, so you then have independent Chinese factories who know the brands’ blueprints AND have workers trained to meet European standards. Once the contract ends, all they have to do is source leather (easy) and branded hardware (the only part where copyright infringement comes in) and they simply don’t stop making the bags. 3) Technology has made it easier than ever to source where the authentic leathers come from and obtain factory firsts and seconds, or obtain a similar leather or reproduce them if you can’t. It’s also easy to 3D print casts and molds for branded hardware. 4) New pricing strategies encourage counterfeits by making them more profitable. The further an item is priced from its cost of production, the more profitable reproducing the bag becomes. For example, when Chanel flaps were $1k, if they cost $150 to knock off and the customer will only pay 1/4 of the retail price for it, you can only make $100 per bag. But now that they’re $10k and prices are essentially divorced from the cost of production, if you can reproduce one perfectly for $500 and sell it for 1/5 of the retail price, that’s now $1500 in profit. The higher brands push prices, the more profitable 1:1 super fakes become. 5) Social media has increased brand and product exposure, simultaneously increasing the prime market for counterfeit goods, i.e. people who are aware of the goods but can’t comfortably afford them.
@sunshallrise
@sunshallrise Жыл бұрын
Makes so much sense
@dee24874
@dee24874 Жыл бұрын
💯
@Noname-cv3cn
@Noname-cv3cn Жыл бұрын
You pay for the name
@OldMoneyMadness
@OldMoneyMadness Жыл бұрын
There is a theory that workers will make bags for a second market
@Chunkyshoesuk
@Chunkyshoesuk Жыл бұрын
If I owned a bag which cost over 10k there is no way I’d walk around the streets with it. Id be too scared of being mugged / attacked for it especially with things as they are at the moment. Going out with a fake Hermes is probably the safest option at the mo.
@harrietrredfern
@harrietrredfern Жыл бұрын
With the way things are I wouldn't even want to wear a rep birkin in public as these street gangs etc know the values of birkins, Kelly's, classic flaps and would mistake it for real and possibly mug you for it in some areas. Earlier this year a young man got stabbed over a fake gucci in the UK. Its a scary world we live in.
@ravensjewel-3886
@ravensjewel-3886 Жыл бұрын
I’d say I agree but someone mugging you for your bag won’t know it’s fake. So, at best, you’re mugged and didn’t lose a $10k+ bag.
@showpentheartist
@showpentheartist Жыл бұрын
Got to keep the blicky with you love. 😁 my girl keeps on in hers
@thinking1085
@thinking1085 Жыл бұрын
I don’t even like the style of Birkins at all. Big and bulky and doesn’t even close without being super annoying
@Debbiediamond0310
@Debbiediamond0310 Жыл бұрын
You’ll still suffer the same trauma over a fake as you will a real. Muggers don’t care for the difference they are there to grab and go. So rather do real than fake or not at all. Stay safe
@tolikfox007
@tolikfox007 Жыл бұрын
I think most ppl have the idea that Hermes artisans are like 50 year old italian/french dudes that have 30 years workmanship experience when in reality they are regular ppl pulled off the streets and go through few months of training lol.
@sunitad592
@sunitad592 Жыл бұрын
Prices are so stupid now, who can blame anyone for buying replica? I have owned Chanel for 30 years and must have owned at least 80 bags at some time or other, you can only get away with silly prices if the quality matches, the quality is way off right now.
@mgnwat
@mgnwat Жыл бұрын
Wayyyy off! I stopped buying designer pretty much. A pair of shoes here and there. Post coronavirus,the prices have skyrocketed and the quality has diminished! NO thank you!
@catnip4587
@catnip4587 Жыл бұрын
When I spot someone staring at my real Chanel bag on the subway or in anywhere out in public. I reply “Canal Street”. People in NYC know that means fake😂
@ravensjewel-3886
@ravensjewel-3886 Жыл бұрын
I tell everyone my bags are fake…but they are real. I honestly don’t want to be a target so if they think it’s fake then they leave me be :)
@mildadenis9958
@mildadenis9958 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣love it if you know you know I will do the same it’s a NYC thing🤣🤣🤣
@nancydrew9997
@nancydrew9997 Жыл бұрын
canal street sounds like a street in paris 😂
@EvieAswiti
@EvieAswiti Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of that scene in the House of Gucci movie when Lady Gaga’s character discovered the fake bag market and when she reported it the Uncle, he didn’t care! At this point it wouldn’t be a shocker if the brands are in on it as well.
@anitamichalczewski2365
@anitamichalczewski2365 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Aldo was a great businessman.
@aalvenda6443
@aalvenda6443 Жыл бұрын
It is legal to make 80-90% of a product in China and finish a piece in France and still call it made in France, this is why the made in France tags are soo important to these brands. Because we believe the prestige. However, it is definitely happening with some brands that at high end but lack some quality control. Now is Chanel doing this? I’m not sure. If Hermes doing this? I’m not sure. I doubt they would let the public know. However, Chanel quality has been going down. Lv quality has gone down. Etc. I think what people try to game, is the ratio to what they spend verse what the cost to make the item is. The markup is ridiculous. Especially with Hermes, people want the prestige of Hermes and handmade item, but also being able to access it financially as well as just general accessibility. However, it’s ironic because the prestige is kept by keeping the supply low.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 Жыл бұрын
that finishing law needs to change
@harrietrredfern
@harrietrredfern Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Fendi and Celine are the new way forward for design and quality. Fendi truly has my heart at the minute.
@fascinationmama
@fascinationmama Жыл бұрын
well my doctor in Hong Kong met the Hermes person from France and was wondering why he was going to China hmm
@navy4735
@navy4735 Жыл бұрын
this is EXACTLY what is happening with LV....the real pieces I have and a fake...the quality is the same..its the same materials...there is no way in hell they can get it this damn good...near flawless technique and same bag lol.its totally unreal...shocking.
@msocean542
@msocean542 Жыл бұрын
Also, this makes me super scared to keep buying vintage on the pre-owned market… 😳
@Dancemom-hw2jt
@Dancemom-hw2jt Жыл бұрын
They closed the replica forum on Reddit after the article was published! The cat was out of the bag so to speak!🤣
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 Жыл бұрын
I assume the Kardashian ones are fake.
@iamladeegee8032
@iamladeegee8032 Жыл бұрын
Oh no!
@Ciaseea
@Ciaseea Жыл бұрын
Omg wow
@peepzsnap7356
@peepzsnap7356 Жыл бұрын
@@seabreeze4559 that wouldn't surprise me. Everything else in their lives is fake 🤷🏾‍♀️..
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 Жыл бұрын
As I've said before, fake sites are even duping vintage Chanel so buying vintage designs isn't safe either. I've heard rich people say that buying only real and obsessing over that is middle-class behaviour because they're trying to distinguish themselves from the poor (status signalling) but the rich just see it as "keeping up appearances". So it's a classism thing. With the risk of robbery, arguably it isn't worth it anymore but women in particular are expected to have a 'uniform' and well done on gaming that system!
@waimengchan3126
@waimengchan3126 Жыл бұрын
I rather keep the money for traveling
@Mommyingthis
@Mommyingthis Жыл бұрын
People think buying vintage is safe, it’s not. Being Asian I have seen super fakes since the 1990s. People just weren’t aware of it because there was no social media… some of the styles on the current vintage market- I had seen in high school as fakes so it’s def not safe. It’s funny when I see influencers think buying vintage is safer. It’s not…. People just weren’t aware of replicas and now they are
@helena3631
@helena3631 Жыл бұрын
I am in NYC and people in NYC wear dupes..robberies are happening everyday where people are snatching a bag off your shoulder or ripping a chain off your neck...some of these bags i have seen that are Gucci fakes the only way you can tell is the inside tags and who will let someone look into their bags..its the same with expensive jewellery people buy a dupe for vacation or to wear outside....once you live in a certain zip code your hair and nails done people assume your bags are real..people forget leather is leather all they do is throw on the logo at the end...LV has went up crazy with their prices who in their right mind want to spend 10k on a bag....
@donniedarko448
@donniedarko448 Жыл бұрын
@@Mommyingthis I’ve seen so many super fakes and especially for Chanel, they’re not THAT hard to authenticate the real from the fake. Vintage chanel truly is a notch above!
@cartierwhite_lasvegas
@cartierwhite_lasvegas Жыл бұрын
@@donniedarko448 chanel is hard to fake because of the eel skin
@CharmyPoo
@CharmyPoo Жыл бұрын
The fake chanel 22 might just be better. Lol.
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
😂
@sharona7845
@sharona7845 Жыл бұрын
Ya I have one and it’s awesome! Feels the same as the real, and it’s prob not real leather but I don’t care bc the real one isn’t either 😂😂😂
@antoa5825
@antoa5825 Жыл бұрын
First of all, stressing about not getting a Birkin in a particular color-way makes me sad for our society. I love my bags, but what privilege that *this* is what causes stress in someone's life. This has been a very existential video, what is reality...? Although the theory about luxury houses participating in the fakes market would be surreal, I can't believe they actually would. Can you imagine if this ever became public? The brands would plummet because who would ever buy from the store again? As someone who lives in NYC, I know the NYC mentality. There are always people who like to hustle, no matter how rich they are, and I can totally see that getting a really good fake probably gives these women a little adrenaline and dopamine boost. Gotta fill the time somehow 😆. Interesting topic for sure.
@eduardochavacano
@eduardochavacano Жыл бұрын
women married to ugly men need such things desperately. Those married with hot straight guys, they shop at H&M or GAP.
@prepandfab6664
@prepandfab6664 Жыл бұрын
Before Chanel started implementing the chip, the replica industry already had them in their bags. I remember the Caramel colour came out a week before Chanel announced 21P. That should tell you something 🤔
@thatgirl1134
@thatgirl1134 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the chip in fake bags is just a metal tag , nothing else . It doesn’t scan or do anything … the engraving is just random too
@prepandfab6664
@prepandfab6664 Жыл бұрын
@@thatgirl1134 That’s true but In the real world no one is walking around scanning people’s bags. Plus no one really knows how the chips works
@hw7029
@hw7029 Жыл бұрын
@@thatgirl1134 yes! It’s the data on the chip that’s important…not the chip itself!
@semabulut7077
@semabulut7077 Жыл бұрын
Also lots of luxury brands have outlets around the world and the rumour has it that they produce lots of products only for their outlets with less quality. if they actually do this is there any reason why we shouldnt think they are making counterfeits for the public markets. ???
@lornadune6024
@lornadune6024 Жыл бұрын
All you would need is an artisan who was employed to Hermes prior and access to materials. Wasn’t that what some of the artisans were doing as a side hustle. The Hermes games and quota system to create inflated perceived scarcity is 💣 up in their face 🤯
@Ciaseea
@Ciaseea Жыл бұрын
I had my feelings about reps in the past was put off by the idea of a brand controlling me that much that I’d pay money for the fake rather than the real. I’d rather buy a cheaper yet quality alternative from a lesser brand. But now that a fakes are being sold in store, their quality is better than the real it truly makes my wonder what is the point? I think it can be a quiet fu to brands who no longer value selling quality products to former loyal customers. How absurd is it that their target base, those that can actual afford the product many times over are not even loyal. Lol. My stance may be changing as far as superficial integrity goes, however there is a safety component to buying real. Nothing can be verified safe or healthy on the blackmarket. Buying counterfeit supports crime organizations and human trafficking efforts and I could never be ok with that.
@ritatheviolinist
@ritatheviolinist Жыл бұрын
Luxury brands have been making their own “fakes” since forever ago - some brands have multiple “lines”: the luxurious lines made with better materials in Italy, the middle lines made with intermediary quality materials in the United States, and the cheapest line made with cheap materials in China. Exhibit A: Ralph Lauren’s black label, purple label, blue label and “polo.” Sometimes this strategy to capture the entire spectrum of market kills the luxury lines because people stop associate the brand with luxury as the cheap lines flood the market
@kazaabitboll2026
@kazaabitboll2026 Жыл бұрын
Always buy real diamonds, buy fake bags. I have a few real bags and regret the money I paid. But I’ll never buy fake jewellery
@jodien5800
@jodien5800 Жыл бұрын
Replicas are not hurting the luxury markets. Still crazy long lines at the boutiques. Although it's really interesting that replicas are getting normalized more and more. More people are upfront about their bags being replicas rather than hiding the fact nowadays.
@teamnuno488
@teamnuno488 Жыл бұрын
Well said Dacob. I think some Chinese buy several branded goods to serve as models or examples to produce the counterfeit goods.
@victoriachen6879
@victoriachen6879 Жыл бұрын
you’re right about that! the buyers are prolly VIP at the boutiques too to have excess to the newest IT bags the moment they drop!
@michaelselleza2742
@michaelselleza2742 Жыл бұрын
not surprised at all... i know a shop/seller where i trust the quality of her counterfeits... bought a bunch of dior book totes, a bright yellow birkin, a white constance, a tan hermes clutch, white/black/green/gray le boy, a bright lipstick red lady dior and green lady dior etc etc
@devonlindsay5784
@devonlindsay5784 Жыл бұрын
It won't be too long until the fakes are nicer than the authentic ones. Quality overall in the authentic items being produced now has gone MAJORLY downhill and prices seem to keep going up and up!
@heatherann502
@heatherann502 Жыл бұрын
A lot of these TV shows use replicas too Love & Hip Hop definitely does
@moonstone1159
@moonstone1159 Жыл бұрын
The rich wear replicas of their expensive jewelry (i.e. diamond jewelry, esp.), so I guess that might be happening with regard to bags. On that note, I may think twice before I buy a resale bag from NY! : )
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 Жыл бұрын
created diamonds, natural in a safe
@lethallipppz6912
@lethallipppz6912 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@MrsFree2BMe
@MrsFree2BMe Жыл бұрын
This video should go viral! 🤯 This is a conversation worth having it is one of the most thought provoking videos in the luxury community. I am excited about the continued conversation. Imagine the savvy you would need to have to purchase a super fake. I wouldn’t know where to begin. I am intrigued.
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
Thank you MrsFree2BMe 🙏🏻💖
@stephrayray
@stephrayray Жыл бұрын
Omg I used to be snobby about fakes until my friend put me on to a good private seller. I bought an LV out of curiosity and when I compared it to the real bag I was shook 😱 almost 100% authentic although the payment process is shady I was not disappointed in my product!
@catnip4587
@catnip4587 Жыл бұрын
It’s still a game because apparently you have to have connections to get invited to a purse party or get introduced to the seller
@amattes1960
@amattes1960 Жыл бұрын
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
Wisdom
@sherryberry6492
@sherryberry6492 Жыл бұрын
Love my replicas…have an LV Manhattan and an LV Passy that gets hella compliments and NO ONE knows the difference unless I tell them…Not interested in new authentic anything-my wish list is full of replicas, even a couple of reasonably priced pre- loved (under $1000), no cares about impressing anyone but myself going forward….
@morgiesgal
@morgiesgal Жыл бұрын
I’m coming to this late. I’m a new subscriber but this is hands down the most thoughtful, reflective and informative treatment of this topic I’ve seen anywhere. You’ve given us a lot to think about and some people, a much needed reality check to boot. Mad, mad respect for keeping it 💯
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
Thank you for subscribing to my channel Joan 🙏🏻💖
@ashlynn4366
@ashlynn4366 Жыл бұрын
Such an interesting topic! Really food for thought.
@dee24874
@dee24874 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this yesterday and I am watching this now. Is luxury just an illusion? Like the saying goes "If you can't beat them, join them." Awesome commentary.
@lucianac4388
@lucianac4388 Жыл бұрын
It makes one pau attention to the small brands, or local brands even, that invest in superb quality but are not famous!
@cschof4351
@cschof4351 Жыл бұрын
I love luxury bags , I do have a few I saved up for ( No Chanel or Hermes' ) I would be terrified to walk around nowadays carrying a bag worth $ 10.000 or more , you might as well put a target on your back . All you hear on S M is that they are investment pieces which means the thieves also know that .
@sadiegossett9141
@sadiegossett9141 Жыл бұрын
I mean I kinda see it. I get sent links to fake bag sites quite often and I just feel like these companies have people searching for these sites right? So how are they still up years later and no one from these brands have seen it? Doubtful. Esp when Hermès was suing that artist for making paintings of birkins like tf, that's not ok but fakes are?
@sheribrooks8205
@sheribrooks8205 Жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about this for yeeeeeeeaaaarrrrrrssss....when the bags started feeling funny in the stores...after I started reading Camorra.
@ChrisCanomi
@ChrisCanomi Жыл бұрын
“Thank you for subscribing” awww haha he says it so sweetly
@beautifulme261
@beautifulme261 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good topic, I’ve wondered about where the real vs the premium fakes are made, same China manufacturing? Good point on the “ designer beauty bag” give away bags made in China. Yes it’s real. I thought the “ Fendace” bag was a joke at first. Designers take ideas from competitors all the time. Great topic! New subscriber😎
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
Thank you for subscribing and welcome to my channel 🙏🏻💖
@OlesyaBagStory
@OlesyaBagStory Жыл бұрын
They should ask that Russian lady, where to get best fakes, if you know what I mean🤣
@missvelvetorchid1047
@missvelvetorchid1047 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting topic!! 👏 Do you think this is also the case with perfumes and beauty products?
@villagegirl3627
@villagegirl3627 Жыл бұрын
Teach the kids! Fake only applies to eyelashes and a bad synthetic wig. If you don’t own a fake bag innNYC you ain’t really a fashionista. The thrill of finding a fake that fools the folks in the brand boutique…you haven’t lived. I have real items and a fake Fendi and Chanel that are better than the real deal. Even had a pleather bag a very wealthy and sophisticated woman offered to buy from me. And yes, those parties are real. Been to a couple. And yes, brands to produce “extra” bags.
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
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@heatherann502
@heatherann502 Жыл бұрын
Ive always thought the luxury brands just high priced their items to seem very desirable but were always behind creating the counterfits
@xeracalm2023
@xeracalm2023 Жыл бұрын
I have auth and fake bags - lots of auth Hermes and rep Hermes (not into Chanel), auth BV, Loewe, Goyard and some reps. Lets be real the luxury brands do not have to "fake" their stuff - the materials are out on the market. Chinese manufacturers can buy the same hides from tanneries, the same waxed linen thread, the same french leather making tools (I have a few myself when I dabbled in leather making). What the "fakes" are doing is somehow getting the leather making expertise - did they work in France or Italy? did they go to schools because the upper tier counterfeits? You can't be an unskilled factory worker.
@NatashaEstrada
@NatashaEstrada Жыл бұрын
The counterfeiting industry is almost as old as the brands now. 30-40years of counterfeiting is going to leave you with a lot of generational workers with skills to pass on.
@AnUrbanGypsy
@AnUrbanGypsy Жыл бұрын
Do you feel any different when you carry the authentic ones compared to the replicas? I don’t know why but if I use a Chanel lipstick instead of a Rimmel one, the experience of using a nicer product, the packaging, the formula… just makes me feel a touch more glam. I get that feeling when I carry a luxury bag over my contemporary ones too and I think a replica would feel the same as a contemporary one to me, just not so special.
@melindazikursh8825
@melindazikursh8825 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t doubt that the auth manufacturers willingly sell components to rep factories but don’t actually own the rep factory. Still making money off the components
@desmon6781
@desmon6781 Жыл бұрын
@@AnUrbanGypsy or maybe that was just a placebo effect? I too have a luxury and drugstore makeup product but it feels the same after applying it. I don't feel more confident or more glam wearing the luxury one neither do I feel less confident & glam wearing the drugstore one.
@tyyneviljakainen5108
@tyyneviljakainen5108 Жыл бұрын
I really like how you see this issue! When many people are playing justice warriors in same time same people are buying and using items made by cheap/ slave labor. You can custom made almost anything ( bags / clothes/ shoes) and support small business owners. I am going to courses that teach you to make your own shoes . Cost 450 includes one pare of shoes made by myself.
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tyyne 🙏🏻🥰💖
@Bhlisse
@Bhlisse Жыл бұрын
Super topic ! Thank you for sharing dear Dacob 👍😉👍😘
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🥰💖
@devonneshort4749
@devonneshort4749 Жыл бұрын
You are spot on! As a reseller of luxury bags, you are seeing the quality go down for years!
@DaniOchannel
@DaniOchannel Жыл бұрын
I had suggested before that if these companies can't beat them, I can imagine they would join them. Referring to paying resellers premiums for rare bags, instead of these constant price increases, the luxury houses can join the resale market and open an eBay store and sell their goods there for a premium 🤪
@vomitellabersace
@vomitellabersace Жыл бұрын
It could also confirm what we suspected: The bags are indeed outsourced to China, for example. The fashion house commissions a certain number, but they now know how to make them. So the workshops overproduce under the table.
@R.N.19
@R.N.19 Жыл бұрын
I think it has weight to keep the name even for the replicas. Look at the luxury watches with the Tudor brand for example. Rolex wanted to make an official Rolex watch but at a lower price but with the same quality. The problem is that now Tudor is called "the poor man's Rolex." So the brands putting out merch as counterfit makes total sense because you are still wearing the brand and no one will know. And probably encourage newbies to go buy a real bag at the store but have the lower quality.
@xeracalm2023
@xeracalm2023 Жыл бұрын
And the sad part? I LOVE my Tudor watches - I have 2 authentic ones.. LOVE them... I have a rep Rolex *LOL* I wanted the candy pink Oyster Perpetual and it is impossible to get and I am not going to play a Birkin game with an AD by buying crap I dont want - and I am not going to pay reseller prices. I do have my eye on a vintage Rolex OP 31.
@l.q.1253
@l.q.1253 Жыл бұрын
I have been saying the same exact things for years. Now the only thing I want to know is.. Where to buy a “Super Rep” for Myself and try out the “quality” of a “Birkin” 🤗
@sarah-ui1gd
@sarah-ui1gd Жыл бұрын
Or chanel im dying to know their site?!🥹🤣
@lisac7737
@lisac7737 Жыл бұрын
Extremely thought provoking discussion dacob. I’ve always had my view on replicas but now I need to have a real good think about it all
@maybird8112
@maybird8112 Жыл бұрын
So glad so many people are waking up and understanding the truth about these companies and the industry. Next I want to see Dacob get a high tier rep to compare to his poor quality auth. 🤭
@silvanafak8450
@silvanafak8450 10 ай бұрын
Yes that would be awesome
@1ballerina
@1ballerina Жыл бұрын
I think the short story, "The Necklace" by Guy de Maupassant might be relevant to this topic.
@gen_o
@gen_o Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking while watching the video. Classic story (I never forgot it after reading it) and indeed relevant to this topic!
@KoriEmerson
@KoriEmerson Жыл бұрын
I hate that story!
@giannas1096
@giannas1096 Жыл бұрын
If it is legal to claim a bag you sell in your store is leather - even if only 1% of it is actually real leather, then you cannot claim any legalities or morality where fakes / counterfeits are concerned - ALL is fair in that case.
@elenabenitez6397
@elenabenitez6397 Жыл бұрын
China does nothing but steal ideas from the entire world and entice ppl to buy cheaper. As long as the world allows China not to respect the IP of the brands, this will keep happening. On the other hand, bags are so expensive now that as a consumer, even if I can afford it, I would look like a fool not using that money for investments instead. So I can understand playing the game to find a super fake. This is a sign that consumers no longer find value. Luxury houses better take heed.
@lauraa.7636
@lauraa.7636 Жыл бұрын
What about Designer Outlets that sell “Outlet Only” products? They essentially are creating lower quality (cheaper version) items that are for those who can’t afford the boutique items. I think designers are responsible for the counterfeit market. It’s sad how much quality went down for designers to gain more profit.
@iyamom4
@iyamom4 Жыл бұрын
You sounded like a 20/20 reporter on this video. I love it. I am wondering if I even want one of these high priced goods. Especially with the prices going up.
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
Thank you Levonn 🥰🥰💖💖💖
@Habibidance
@Habibidance Жыл бұрын
LOVE the way your mind works Dacob Fantastic video!
@ravensjewel-3886
@ravensjewel-3886 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t doubt this at all. I’ve thought this was possible for a while now. These fakes are so perfect. And I don’t feel bad for these brands losing money. Whatever, quality is terrible and so is service. This is what they get for selling things at luxury prices without the luxury experience. Sometimes I think I’m an idiot for what I spend on these damn bags
@xiinieais5401
@xiinieais5401 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dacob, how are you? I find myself umming and ahhing at the lower end of the scale, because I've just got to justify every penny I spend. I would buy a dupe, but not to convince people it's the real thing, but because I like the design and I can see how I'll use it. Missed you yesterday, take care now, boo boo 😂🧡🤩
@heatherann502
@heatherann502 Жыл бұрын
Did you see that CNBC interview on the young lady thats making millions on selling "vintage"designer bags she claims shes getting from thrift stores 😂 i was like yea ok...they just posted it a couple days ago
@giannas1096
@giannas1096 Жыл бұрын
Clearly the rich and influential know something we don’t know…
@harrietrredfern
@harrietrredfern Жыл бұрын
Virgil Abloh famously said he loves fakes, it's better than a great review in vogue it's the best feedback
@minwade5436
@minwade5436 Жыл бұрын
My goodness that some deep rabbit hole diving Super Dacob, very good to ponder. Meanwhile the huge luxe houses are laughing in every which way. 😘💐🇦🇺
@rexyambarwati7285
@rexyambarwati7285 Жыл бұрын
If you cannot fight ‘em, join ‘em…
@Lovely-ff7uv
@Lovely-ff7uv Жыл бұрын
Micheal Kors makes counterfeit designs of every other designer since the beginning. He is notorious for biting.
@flygurl4653
@flygurl4653 Жыл бұрын
This was very insightful! Smh makes me think 🤔 💭 about 💵💰
@Jackson-jk9ff
@Jackson-jk9ff Ай бұрын
Imagine being attacked cause of an fake bag… Why then „show off“ in the first place? A thief woludnt spot your bag is fake, especially not in a stressy robbery situation. In some cases just stay lowkey, there is no need to „ball around“ all the time. Who playes with fire can get burned by it.
@hautedoctor2738
@hautedoctor2738 Жыл бұрын
Although many would say they pay for the brand name, those parting with their cash DO care about quality and have high standards. With the nose dive in quality, hikes in prices, and unpredictable re-sell market flooded with reps, luxury bags no longer represent value for money (not to mention the hoop jumping and game playing that brands are instilling to control their customer base). More and more original customers will turn to reps and then the brands will have to rethink their brand, pricing and marketing strategy. The Hermes Birkin seems particularly vulnerable to repping within the original customer base. Why wait for months for the possibility of being "offered" a Birkin, buying Hermes products you don't particularly want, and then finally a Birkin in a colour that is your 3rd choice, when you can choose the exact schematics of a rep?
@alxisl
@alxisl Жыл бұрын
Gucci has already said so, “Its okay to have a fake gucci” so i believe it’s possible!
@xeracalm2023
@xeracalm2023 Жыл бұрын
I think because it helps them have a market - its aspirational - you may see someone out in the crowd you kind of seems like they are in your same "class" and they are toting a Gucci so you save to buy that Gucci - whereas before if you only ever saw say Coach or Tory Burch you would throw your money there. It helps get continued customers for them.. the rich have always had a mixture. I had a very wealthy uncle who had some auth Rolex and fake ones... unabashed.
@eduardochavacano
@eduardochavacano Жыл бұрын
not only possible. They really make the Fakes. They make more money selling fakes that the real stuff. Because the rich refuse to buy a bag that is seen in the subway and carried by the peasants. Still they dont go bankrupt. Because their main market are the poor who care too much about labels. The rich dont really care.
@MsJaneJake
@MsJaneJake Жыл бұрын
Some of the factories producing the real deal are creating counterfeit unbeknownst to the luxury brand.
@fascinationmama
@fascinationmama Жыл бұрын
fear of getting mugged is what prevents me from getting the real hermes
@lucianac4388
@lucianac4388 Жыл бұрын
I always suspected these bags are made in the same factories
@funkylcd
@funkylcd Жыл бұрын
Love listening to what you have to say. Keep doing what u do dacob !
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
Thank you jellycakes 🥰🙏🏻💖
@minniex622
@minniex622 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperDacob ♥️♥️♥️♥️
@kkingscott6383
@kkingscott6383 Жыл бұрын
I have always thought designers made fakes.. hell for every real bag they sell I’m sure they could sell 100 fakes with the price mark ups and the low quality materials they are making more if not more on fakes 🤷🏾‍♀️
@notinvogue4287
@notinvogue4287 4 ай бұрын
I've been pondering this myself for quite some time. What do they do with all those flawed gems?
@nancyprivate6774
@nancyprivate6774 Жыл бұрын
Well - even though I could and have bought high end designer in the past - I think I am going to stick with Coach or Tory Burch and Full Grain leather bags made in the USA by small leather companies
@ohshedee2020
@ohshedee2020 Жыл бұрын
you can get the same high with a good fake bag and save money. And not feel bad if it breaks a part, actually you will laugh at how precious you will treat a nice fake bag cause you always remind your self, its a fake hehehe
@gailwebster2013
@gailwebster2013 Жыл бұрын
The brands did it to themselves; terrible quality and service and ridiculous prices. Now we know some are not even using real leather, there is less reason to buy the authentic. I have thought for a long time certain brands were behind their own counterfeits. The stories of child labor etc are not true either; I know someone who has traveled to these factories and they were high tech and well run.
@majagirlpower2561
@majagirlpower2561 Жыл бұрын
Wow 🤔 thanks for the information 🤎
@cycatsimon3816
@cycatsimon3816 Жыл бұрын
These days I only pay full price for smaller brands that use full grain leather like Loewe, Polene, Songmont, etc. Their designs are so fun and playful. Firstly small brands do not mark up the prices like crazy. Secondly it's too costly to replicate an exact 1 to 1 match. They are not as prestigious in the traditional sense and lower resale value at the moment, but every time when I touch the leather they are so luxuriously comforting. It works for me 👍
@maybird8112
@maybird8112 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen 1:1 reps of Loewe and polene. In fact, my friend has a rep puzzle bag that she compared to the auth in store. I’ve even seen reps of coach and Tory Burch. So I would still be wary when buying preloved if you don’t want a replica.
@ranran2456
@ranran2456 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think they say this so they will not get robbed. And to make peoples not by real bags, and so they will start buying fake ones. Also i think they have fake ones that u can by from the store itself if u also buy the genuine ones aswell.
@Chunkyshoesuk
@Chunkyshoesuk Жыл бұрын
If they’re made in the same factory by the same employees are they really fakes? If its the same quality or better is it really any different from the outlet bags made just for outlet which are produced by the lux brands for a separate revenue stream. I like to buy preloved but its going to be impossible to do that in the future. So selling & buying any bags will be impossible if no one knows what are fakes & what ones arn’t. Handbags will be devalued all together!!!
@kazaabitboll2026
@kazaabitboll2026 Жыл бұрын
Even the good fakes are too expensive now.
@dan_ta_lion
@dan_ta_lion Жыл бұрын
Hi dacod! Can you react to videos of MSN CRAFT here in youtube? She makes bag and her designs are an exact copy of hermes, loewe and valextra, gucci bags, i dont know how to feel about it because shes really good but shes making exact replicas of well known bags from luxury brands
@momoyome
@momoyome Жыл бұрын
I wish you’d post articles you talk about.
@ccella3370
@ccella3370 Жыл бұрын
I have both fake and real chanel and Hermes! I am not kissing no sales rep a$s in 2022 for a bag design/spec that I want when I want it! If you won’t sell it to me I will buy a fake I don’t care! Also I will buy preloved before I wait list for a year! I will definitely buy fake Hermes Kelly 20cm I don’t think they’re worth the real price as it’s a trendy bag
@blippypippy8167
@blippypippy8167 Жыл бұрын
Nothing would surprise me!
@JasonLuxLover
@JasonLuxLover Жыл бұрын
Love this topic i have many opinions
@kathyguyle3569
@kathyguyle3569 Жыл бұрын
I cannot think of anything more absurd than to beg a brand to give me the "privilege" of giving them thousands of dollars after waiting months/years for a handbag (and I love handbags). And perhaps some of these "fakes" are being made by former craftspeople of these brands who are now making them on their own.......? And if so, and these were the actual people who were crafting the actual bags for these brands, then are they REALLY fake......??? I mean they were making them before, they are making them now, so 🤔
@terriberrens2144
@terriberrens2144 Жыл бұрын
To much crime. Not worth getting killed over a 30,000.bag
@lluvbagel9875
@lluvbagel9875 Жыл бұрын
Oh no no Dacob, counterfeit skincares and perfumes are not a new thing. One example strawberrynet, (back in 2014) allegedly selling counterfeit skincares & perfumes. Murad, Estée Lauder & other brands have blacklisted this website.
@sunitad592
@sunitad592 Жыл бұрын
Uniforms go on Ebay, made in Romania 100% pure polyester.
@deconstructedluxury1964
@deconstructedluxury1964 Жыл бұрын
I saw a fake Lv utility bag recently - how could i tell it was fake? The quality and detail was way better than the one i tried in store. Also, look how many fake Lv prism bags came out before the originals hit the stores! Global sourcing means that factories are likely producing at least parts of the originals. Also check the third party suppliers to big conglomerates in italy and ask yourself of everyone in the supply chain is getting ethical treatment.....
@therealshakeen
@therealshakeen Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, reminds me of Baudrillard’s Simulacres et Simulation 🤓
@thinking1085
@thinking1085 Жыл бұрын
I have both real and fake the real I buy are timeless and the fakes I buy are trendy. No way I would ever spend over 2k on a bag also. What does someone get out of paying 10k for a bag? It will not resell at that price if it’s used no matter how much people say they can resell it.
@lesliecraven3087
@lesliecraven3087 Жыл бұрын
I have another Question? How do the super fake manufacturers get a good leather? Is that something to investigate because Chanel is not using good leather? Furthermore Hermès claims they get the best leather in the world. well how can there be so much leather that is super fakes get leather and Hermès factory gets leather?
@mikeg8276
@mikeg8276 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that there are tons of hides that H rejects because they don’t meet their standards. The average consumer isn’t always going to be able to see or even feel why this is. There’s nothing stopping counterfeiters from buying what H rejects. Someone has to. Additionally, some H leathers have machine-pressed grains, like Epsom, and I doubt there’s a shortage of those, because the pressing hides blemishes and allows lower quality hides to be used. That’s one reason even at H the pressed leathers cost less for the same item in natural grain leathers.
@xiinieais5401
@xiinieais5401 Жыл бұрын
Helllo Dacob, how are you honey! Hope all is well with you, Patrick, Jessie and the Australian government! 🤣🤣🤣💗❤🧡💙
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob Жыл бұрын
We are great. Hope you are too dear 💖
@sophiastern2133
@sophiastern2133 Жыл бұрын
OmG ...you made me laugh SO.O.O hard .... Since the frenzy of all these "UNBOXING """ All my branded bags ..jewelry..and the like were put AWAY . In a better world these became suspicious and uncool..... same as 20 yrs ago my cleaning lady would come to work with canvas LV !!! And a Rolex !!!! I guess today she must be dripping in Cartier or VCA .... Not going to the Hamptons this summer/ fall ...missing on the new gossips ! Oh sad ! 😉
@jasminebaby3375
@jasminebaby3375 Жыл бұрын
I’m so done with Hermes. I’m not going there for a bag anymore.
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