M1 Pro is the Better Buy Over M2 Pro

[@jmoney211]

In my opinion, certified refurbished is the only way you can go preowned. Those Amazon renewed and eBay certified refurbished products may be a bit cheaper but they’re not much cheaper once you factor in battery replacement. Also, Apple tests the internals to make sure there’s nothing wrong, plus they give you a one-year warranty and the option of AppleCare plus. Yes, Amazon renewed and eBay certified refurbished include return options but it’s nicer to have a reliable product that you don’t have to worry about breaking in the first place.

[@zoruaboy]

This, especially the AppleCare+ option being available

[@tjadejoh]

And you can also still return the certified refurbished same as when you buy new from the Apple Store. Even if you’ve opened the box

[@jpracing893]

They will also change the chassis of the products and display if they’re damaged it’s just literally the internals that don’t get changed. It’s basically brand new.

[@KoenKooi]

Yes, I’m still very happy with my refurb mac studio, it became available 3 months after launch.

[@papervws]

eh i have no issues buying on ebay, bigger savings and as long as you know what you’re doing and how to fully test your hardware everything will be fine. but if you don’t know what i’m talking about then indeed don’t buy from ebay and go for apple refurb instead

[@hhh-rc5gt]

Got my m1 14” on release day and I’ll be keeping it until there’s a redesign of the laptop. I do like the wallpaper on the new ones, which is why I applied it to my m1 yesterday 😂

[@angelcolton841]

I bought an M1 pro 14” back in October when the rumors was that a new one with the M2 was going to be released in 2023. For $1,600 I think it was a good deal. Completely new at Bestbuy

[@JimBoomer]

I just got my 14 inch 8/14 core M1 Pro, 16gb, 1tb from the Apple refurbished store last night! It was $1689 - 15% off since I ordered it through a friend who works at apple....$1436...that is a deal for a beast of a laptop!

[@thebuddercweeper]

I usually count on Macs getting 6-7 years of software support, if that continues with the Apple silicon ones then I won’t be upgrading from my 14” M1 Pro MacBook Pro until ~2027 at the earliest, unless there’s something really new and really cool before that. I doubt even then that the performance would be unusable.

[@tjadejoh]

@@ytchiefnah the change from 5nm to 3nm won’t be as big as the transition from Intel to the M-series chips

[@marcellkovacs5452]

@YT Chief well, let's see, I'm sceptical about the plausibility of making another jump like they did from Intel. I think it's safe to say that the M1 Pro is already an overkill for most prosumers, so currently the M2 Pro+ line only really makes sense for certain professional use cases.

[@pinglabuu]

I was using my 2015 MBP until last week when I bought a 14inch MBP. It’s still working great so I decided to give it to my sister for her school work. I’m sure it’ll last her a few years more I’m sure. I can’t imagine I’ll be upgrading any less than 5-6 years from now

[@nordicnomad5473]

Sensible decision

[@hereweare9011]

They'll have the m12 by then.

[@snarplaya]

I’m finally upgrading from a 2010 MacBook Pro. My old MacBook still works fine, but a lot of software doesn’t support it anymore. Video editing is nearly impossible. Takes days to render a 10 min 4k video lol. If it doesn’t crash first. I still use my old Mac as a media server too and it works great!

[@davidlazarus67]

I had upgraded my 2009 iMac for the same reason. More apps no longer work. I bought a 16” MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro a few months ago and it saved me £500 than the new M2 identical specifications.

[@promethium752]

Same for me, I'm still using my 2010 MacBook. Works fine, but meh! Apart from excel and latex and basic webbrowsing, it's out of date now.

[@tpfang56]

My plan exactly is to get refurbished. I can get a M1 Pro w/ 32gb RAM and 1tb SSD around $2000 or $2200 if there aren’t any with the binned chips. It would be used for programming and occasional photoshop use. I want to pass on my M1 MBA to my cousin who’s using a 7+ year old MBA!

[@davidempire4874]

I upgraded from the M1 Pro to the M2 Pro because I wanted 1TB of storage, Verizon gave me a free upgrade to their new Wi-Fi 6E router as part of my Fios plan, and I have a minor pixel anomaly on my current 14" MBP.

[@johnadams3038]

Just get external ssd lol

[@davidempire4874]

@@johnadams3038 What about the screen issue and the Wi-Fi 6E?

[@leviandhiro3596]

@@davidempire4874 repair the screen?

[@edenem]

@@leviandhiro3596 that screen is worth like a 3rd of the laptops bill of materials

[@anetizen6404]

Then what are you going to do with your first 14" MBP

[@keco185]

I'm probably waiting until the M3 Pro comes out. It'll be interesting to see if there are any improvements from a switch to 3nm

[@PWingert1966]

If it has an accurate ray-tracing engine I might be able to do a full Delorian simulation with the Flux-capacitor operational at 88mph!

[@TheBlackManMythLegend]

me too

[@asdfasdfwae]

I m waiting for M4 Pro

[@nomadhedge]

I'm waiting for M10.. Just wait and see how good it will be.

[@SergioBlackDolphin]

Why not M5?

[@vorlock7149]

Well on my 14" M1 Pro I got screen flickering issues (screen was replaced and still got the problems). I have seen the exact same issue on both of the mini LED Macbooks I tried it on. Try it for yourself: Step 1 - plug in an external monitor (does not matter if it is over HDMI, DP over USB-C or an USB-C to HDMI adapter) Step 2 - run any full screen video on the external monitor (has to be full screen) Step 3 - open a PDF file also in full screen on the internal Macbook display (also has to be full screen) Step 4 - raise the brightness to around 90% on the internal screen Step 5 - click with you mouse anywhere on your external screen and leave it there (to get the mouse focus on the external screen) Step 6 (optional, flickering can already start) - wave slowly with your hand in front of the camera of the Macbook. Step 7 - enjoy the flickering mini LED display of your 3k Macbook pro :D

[@MunroDoctrine]

I’m getting the new base M2 Pro especially since I can get it discounted at 1799. I have WiFi 6E and a 240hz monitor already so this fits for me. I’m still rocking a Intel MacBook

[@KC-bi9jw]

As soon as I saw the m2 lineup come out I was like “Yesss! Now I can get another m1 mbp for cheaper!” I already I have an M1 Max mbp and need another for work

[@yoyolovesmovies]

I’ve been trying to get a MacBook for a while and neither M2 device was quite right (thermals on Air, Design on Pro) and then then I realised that this meant cheaper M1 Pro. And that 14’ is now cheaper than the M2 devices.

[@PWingert1966]

Yes, I need 96Gb unified memory. I am simulating Delorian flux capacitor operation at the sub-atomic level. That memory will be used to manage the quark-lepton interactions in their naturally occurring matrix field. I also need that memory to record the Boson decay events in real-time to ensure proper chronic hysteresis representation in the Delorian at 88mph! and I must display the output from my electron microscope at 8K just to visualize the atoms of U235 accurately as they enter the Flux Capacitor! Marty!

[@Axiios117]

I was fortunate enough to still be in the return window of my 16 inch M1 Max (had 1 day left to return after Apple announced the M2 Max) I definitely brought my M1 Max and returned it for the M2. As a graphic designer and video editor (my main source of income) upgrading to the M2 Max is 100% worth it. If you don’t make money with your machine, it makes 0 sense to upgrade. In reality, we really shouldn’t try to keep up with every new release from Apple…the M3 will be out in 2 years or so (maybe sooner) upgrade if it makes practical sense, but don’t chase every new tech release! These machines should last year 5+ years easily

[@steviegbcool]

Its my source of income too and for me it still makes no difference. Its got to the point of diminishing returns. In the past if you upgraded you could see the improvements in the apps you could do things you couldnt do before Now all its doing is a saving a couple minutes in export times.

[@alexisaguirrevideos]

My 2015 15” MBP has been serving me well for 7 years 🥲 but I think it’s finally time to upgrade. My laptop can barely keep up with my Logic Pro sessions anymore. It’s very unfortunate.

[@rudyg6922]

Dont kid yourself they will be out in a year

[@BernieMittens]

My 2014 MacBook Pro was on its last leg in 2021, which is when I went with the m1 MBA, but then I splurged and got the m1 MAX. It’s still a beast

[@novanoskillz4151]

@@rudyg6922 ok so never buy

[@clariceqtaylor]

When I got my M1 Pro MacBook Pro I went cheap because that’s all I needed. 6 months in the MB died out of the blue and over the next 5 weeks of having massive issues with the computer my local Adobe store not only replaced mine with a new one they gave me a fully maxed out M1 Max with 2 TB of storage and 64G ram… The only thing that wasn’t maxed was the internal storage which has never been an issue with me Honestly the best customer service experience I’ve ever had. I also couldn’t believe it when I saw the specs on my new MacBook Pro

[@sevdarasdaras]

We fully believe you!

[@JCNOAOU]

Why did adobe replace your Apple product?

[@HughRussell06]

The base 14” MacBook Pro is $2299 refurbished from Apple here in Australia, I’m seriously considering that for that price

[@steviegbcool]

if you wait for a 10% off the new ones you only saving a couple hundred bucks by going with the old used ones.

[@HughRussell06]

@@steviegbcool that only reduces it to around $2879, that’s still a $580 difference and for that money you can get a good monitor or keyboard/mouse and any adapters

[@GeneralAlex]

Those who are with M1 MacBook pro 14" thinking whether to upgrade or not, bro, I'm still working with video editing and graphic design with my MacBook Pro 2013 and only now thinking about upgrading haha, btw the laptop is doing great! and still looks like new. Shows the quality of the Apple devices and how long they can be supported, I still get security updates, but the last OS I could use is Catalina. Which is fine by me. But I seriously want to blow my own mind with nowadays Pro models and I've heard so many awesome things about the M1 2021 Pro, but thinking I will use the device for more than 10 years, the 500 extra is not really much, so might as well just get the M2. But if I had M1 I would defo not upgrade.

[@mototacularlife5267]

You can get brand new from Best Buy, literally twice they had a sale on them for $400 off putting M1 14” at $1599. So nope apple refurbished isn’t always the best deal

[@itsyellow]

Fun fact: When apple releases a new product they add the product wallpaper to the wallpapers list, you would've gotten the wallpaper on even Intel Mac. Yes I know it was just a skit but wanted to bring some light.

[@jakreu]

I have the M1 Max 14 inch and I am not giving up on that machine unless I am forced to. It absolutely nails everything I throw at it.

[@young_jon_da_sauce_god]

That skit and MacOS chinchilla parts though. The wallpapers part was hilarious.

[@YaLaRegasteDX]

I was about to buy a macbook 14' m1pro on best buy new a few days before the m2pro got announced and i am so glad that i didnt cause then I did buy a macbook pro 14 in the refubished store and got a (almost) 500 dlls difference. Tooootally worth it!

[@Lehpurdzzz]

My M1 Pro and M2 Air both do 4K 144hz HDR with a usb-c to DisplayPort cable. I feel like this is really commonly overlooked unless you're a custom PC person who's familiar with DisplayPort being the go-to. BTW the m2 air is incredible. I feel like most people are jaded by their experience with intel MacBooks because those legit struggled. Apple silicon is a whole new level.

[@jamescassar5348]

Wait you have 1m pro and m2 air? May I ask what do you use for one and the other? And do you notice differences in relation to price ?

[@Lehpurdzzz]

@@jamescassar5348 16” M1 Pro is my issued work computer, and the M2 air is my personal computer that I share with my fiancé. I got the min spec air because we have the 2TB iCloud storage so literally everything I used to have on my 2014 retina I just pushed to the cloud. They honestly both feel the same. Editing 4k/60hz iPhone footage and Insta360 footage, multitasking while work video calls are going on, etc. I just can’t tell a difference. I also have a gaming pc with a 12-core i7-12700k and a 3080 and really they are all just plain fast as hell. What’s most impressive about apple silicon however is the battery life and how they are dead silent all the time even if I’m ending videos on my bed just smooshed into the comforter. The chassis of the laptops are ice cold. From my experience, I would much rather people pay the extra money for an $800 32”, 4K 144hz monitor than get a higher spec’d MacBook with a normal monitor. The upgrade in user experience is DRASTIC compared to a 27” 1440p monitor. My second 1440p monitor looks like trash compared to my 4k.

[@jamescassar5348]

@@Lehpurdzzz I always prefer watching 4k content and having a great display is a must for me so I agree with you. Heard alot of comments how slow the SSD is on the base air, and that it over heats? No issues with you? I have a tab S8 ultra with a keyboard attachment and a gaming controller. It seriously meets all my needs plus it's portable as hell. Having all that cloud storage is great also!

[@Lehpurdzzz]

@@jamescassar5348 I feel like the big KZbinrs are just running benchmarks and timing video exports and not actually USING the laptop. When I’m editing a video it doesn’t get hot or loud or slow. Only when you’re done editing and then export/render the video does it get hot. But that’s just how exporting videos has always been. You set the thing aside and have a meal or something and by the time you come back the video is done. I edit like maybe 10 videos per year I don’t care if it takes 5min or 20min to export. I care that the editing workflow is snappy and responsive which it is. (My then $3k 2014 dual core retina MacBook Pro was mad slow). Regarding the ssd speed, I keep my Final Cut projects on an external SSD so I can chose to edit on either the 16” or the 13”. So I never actually write large files to the onboard ssd. Even if I did though, the read speed of my SD cards is slower than the write speed of the onboard 256GB module so it literally wouldn’t make a difference. And just because it’s half the speed of the 512GB doesn’t mean the user experience suffers. At least not that I could tell. Also I use safari. I haven’t done back to back testing with chrome so I can’t comment on any differences. I constantly pick up the air and tell my fiancé “this thing is just so amazing I can’t believe it”. I’m an engineer in the Silicon Valley and I work on consumer electronics. I spend A LOT of money on tech and I greatly value better user experiences. Even with my very high standards, the base spec M2 air is a top recommendation from me.

[@Lehpurdzzz]

@@FoxSleeping Both the M2 and M1 Pro can output 4k 144hz HDR but only through the usb-c ports via DisplayPort. You need to use a USB-c to DisplayPort 1.4 cable. If at any point you adapt from C to hdmi or use the hdmi port it won’t work. Also the monitor I use is the LG 27GN950.

[@quincysinette9592]

I can say this helped me decide. all the points your brought up seem fair and objective on the truth of apple gimmicks. All those feature apple could have added but really waited a year to get more money for it. the wifi6e is something to look forward to but who is really suing it right now. Most hot sots won't offer it until real another 2-3 years. I think is forward thinking but can really show you the greed in a product that can advanced and complimentary to people looking to get one without feeling like they sold a farm to get a product with older tech but refined. I don't like that I really wanted the M2 but saving $500 to basically do the same thing I was doing on the M1 cheap is me just keeping up with the Joneses. thank you

[@TheThaiLife]

If you didn't flip for the 8TB SDD in your M1 Pro, you could ought the have bought the baseline M1 16", M2 16" and likely the M3 16". So, your savings tips are helpful, I just wish you took them yourself. Before you say you plan on traveling, I am a 5+ year digital nomad and a nice NAS solution with 16TB, Raided NAS drives in a slim case you can edit from would be less than $1K. I use GoPro unlimited cloud for my videos, it's $50 a year, unlimited and it's fast.

[@crisrocchi2722]

it is right to clarify one thing: wifi6e significantly increases reception and download/upload speed whatever router you have at home. It is not necessary for you to buy a wifi6e router. I have daily confirmations personally using both M1 pro and M2 pro in my agency. Sometimes the speed is doubled. One more reason why in my opinion it doesn't make sense to invest in the M1 Pro now (6 months after this video), considering that by now there is a refurbished M2 Pro or on offer at a similar price.

[@imakethesites3048]

I’ve got the 16” M1 MacBook Pro, it’s awesome for work, media, and browsing.

[@wa11pon33]

I’m still on a 2019 15 inch MBP. I’m going to wait till these M2’s get on the market and the prices on the secondhand market drop more in price. Then I’ll finally try to snag a 16 inch M1 Pro MacBook!

[@colinpowda]

I just bought M1 Pro today. I found one in stock in some of the stores. thank you.

[@kinocchio]

In the UK store right now, you can buy for £1800 a MBP M1 Pro 10 core CPU/16 core GPU, 1TB SSD, 16GB Ram. Not bad.

[@CFC.NobarR]

The M2 Pro MacBook Pro 14 has gone up to £2150. Way too expensive.

[@katseverino1085]

I did the exact same thing, here in the US.mine was $1999.00

[@os2171]

I hear you. I’m still doing data science using Python, R and SPSS on my old MacBook Pro mid 2012… 16gb, 1TB SSD, 750 mb HDD… on catalina

[@AndriiVozniak]

do you have windows installed on your MacBook Pro? What OS and software do you use for data science

[@marcellkovacs5452]

@@AndriiVozniak the answer to all those questions are in the original comment.

[@AndriiVozniak]

@@marcellkovacs5452 no, they are not

[@richarddcrossley]

After seeing the price rises on iPhone and iPad in the UK I went out and bought a M1 Max 16 on sale brand new and the company were doing 3 years 0% PayPal. The new M2 Max is £800 more than I paid due to sale and price increases in Europe. I can buy an iPhone 14 or nearly a MacBook Air M1 for that!

[@m.a36]

Which company did you get it from?

[@richarddcrossley]

@@m.a36 BT shop with PayPal credit. There were some deals at Costco and Very just before Christmas that were even cheaper but they didn't offer 3 years interest free but they worked out £1000 less than the M2 Max 16! They look like still offering it but at £2884 and 24 months instead.

[@pascalchristen]

Should I buy a refurbished 16“ M1 MacBook Pro now or wait for the rumored 15“ M2 Macbook Air? Price would be roughly the same.

[@Rackstack234]

Wait!

[@katseverino1085]

depends on your use.If you don"t need cooling, buy the Air.

[@nazukeoya]

I'm rocking my 2015 Intel MacBook Pro, and sticking with that until the M4 Mac Pro comes out.

[@Bliznt]

I purchased a M1 MacBook Pro refurbished 10 core cpu 16 core gpu and 16 gigs of ram with 1T storage. I saved around $1k to the original pricing. Absolutely the best thing for me. So glad I waited.

[@katseverino1085]

Exactly what I did! Same specs, as yours. However, I bought brand new, so only saved $500.00.

[@yungnachty4474]

I am dead set on riding out my 11 year out ThinkPad til it croaks. I had a M1 Air, nobody talks about all the things that still aren't supported with the new M1 silicon because of how Rosetta works. I just remote to desktop when I need more than basic functions and It has a 5950X/128GB RAM/4080. I highly respect your sentiment on these M2 products. M1 will probably be supported just as long as M2 as IIRC, they are both based on the same ARM standard, neither supports ARM v9 specification. So getting a M1 Mac for 500-1000 off is the way to go. Its really hard to justify spending that sorta money on a Macbook in 2023 when it doesn't even support AV1 encoding. I doubt the M3 will either since the M2 is based on the A15, the M3 will be based on the A16 and the M4 will be based on the yet to be released A17. That puts The M4 as dropping in Q4 2024 or Q1 2025. I don't know about you but Intel and AMD by next year will have CPUs with 32-48+ threads on laptop, with 30 hour battery life, better encoders, AI accelerators and iGPUs that are comparable to a 3060/2070. I almost bought a M1 Max with 32GB of RAM earlier this year but once I really thought about it, there is little other than looks that justifies anything more than a base M1 Air and especially the M2 Air. I am not dogging the technology at all, its nothing short of a miracle what they have done. But the rate apple is moving at, its been almost 2.5 years since the M1 Air dropped, if you bought one back then or even a M1 Pro/Max MBP you got a hell of a bang for your buck but unless Apple can really push for 3nm chips by the end of this year in an M3 Pro line and 2nm in 2024 they are going to get gapped by stuff thats sub 1000 USD. Right now I can go to amazon, buy a Dell 7920 with a 12700H/3060 and 64GB DDR5 and a 2TB SSD for 1,800 USD, I can also buy the same laptop with a 3050 and 8GB of RAM and a 256Gb SSD for 850 and upgrade it myself for a total cost of 1200. I have friends with that and a MBP 16 with 64GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD....the Dell won more things than it lost and it has a 500 nitt 4K touch display. And its super friendly to the user being able to fix just about anything wrong with it.

[@marcpena3197]

Shut up

[@yungnachty4474]

@@marcpena3197 Are you malding cause balding?

[@emmanuelcaldera]

I currently have the M1 MacBook Pro 13" (2020) and thinking about upgrading to the 16" M1 Pro. Definitely an upgrade but primarily upgrading for the screen.

[@Appleanche5]

I think it's easy to fall into the "future proofing" trap - like you don't just want the M2 because you export in 5:30 vs 6:45 but you want to believe that buying the latest hardware will better serve you on year #4, #5, #6 or more if you're planning to do that. I think where that's really difficult right now is we don't know what kind of advancements we can expect from Apple. When you bought an Intel machine you kind of knew what you were capable of, and after 5 years where stuff was gonna be. In 5 years who knows where Apple silicon will be, maybe we're at the 10-20% advancement stages, maybe the M3s will bring some radical new performance. The question is does it make more financial sense to buy the base model, expect it to go strong for 4-5 years and then use the savings from upgrading to that new model sooner? At this point I think so.. especially because in order for me to really feel that future proof I'd probably want 32GB RAM, larger SSD, which with Apple comes at a huge premium. Talking like 3K for that, so in 3 years if the M1 Pro is really somehow long in the tooth I can just go ahead and sell it off, use the $1500 I saved and I'm guessing a lot of that stuff will trickle down (more RAM, higher base storage, etc) AND that machine 3-4 years down the line is going to likely destroy the M2 you tried to future proof.

[@salmann3874]

M1 Pro is really a beast if it's kind.. I have been using this for more than a year now and haven't faced any issues as such.. The bettery life if just great 👍. Those who are tight on budget but needs a faster laptops just get the M1 Pro or M1 Max MacBook pro.. Worth the penny

[@qayd3n]

The “wallpaper” 😂😂😂

[@ryanwest1164]

My M1 pro MacBook is my favorite product Apple has released in years. It is 100% worth it, and I would buy it again over the M2 pro in a heartbeat.

[@StrifePulse]

Agreed

[@El_Ouazzani]

Just got 14 inch M1 Pro base model for 1200€.

[@xxphactor]

My main decision hang up between the M1 and M2 are the number of cores. It seems to me that more cores mean more efficiency and power, even if its only a 20% increase.

[@ReddRubble]

Thing is the SSD is worse if you're getting 512gb. So Lightroom exports can actually be slower because the export is limited by the 50% slower SSD. It also seems like encoding is similar, and it's mostly like blender renderings

[@moehussein3598]

Got a good deal on a certified refurbished 14 inch MacBook Pro from Apple here in Canada for $1929 vs the $2599 for the new M2 Pro.

[@Ryan152103]

Eh will still be getting the M2 14. Wasn't a fan of the M1 14 battery life, and even though the M2 is an extra hour, it could possibly be longer due to the efficiency cores. Especially when in low-power mode.

[@elitetteh]

Was your M1 14 a base model Pro config or did you bump some things up?

[@Ryan152103]

@@elitetteh Complete base. No spec up

[@haissouma]

what were your issues with the m1 14 battery life?

[@goobfilmcast4239]

Depending on the work you need to do, one mMac may be more "desirable" than another....but Apple Silicon in general has proven to be a remarkable advancement. No one can make even the slightest complaint about moving from an Intel Mac to ANY Apple Silicon. The nice thing is actually having a bit of a dilemma in comparing current offerings.....that "trepidation" you are feeling about which is the right Mac for you is called....CHOICE ! Enjoy it and happy shopping because you know in the end you won't really be too disappointed regardless.

[@chriswhetton3584]

I just upgraded from my 2013 base MacBook Air to a M1 14 inch MacBook Pro… what a different 10 years makes lol.

[@digitalmarketinghumans]

I've bought many from refurbished store. It's practically brand new. Love it. Also love my M1 Pro. I may get the Max or M1 Studio Ultra.

[@goaliepro1996]

My 2015 MacBook Pro is currently getting MAC OS updates still! (Idk what version we’re on)

[@123theprodigy5]

TBH I still think that the M one Pro and M1 max chip MacBook pros are still good. you aren’t really missing out on much if you don’t upgrade. apples M-series of chips are too good, that’s why the Mac pro with Apple Silicon is gonna be kind of boring because there’s nothing that Apple can really do to justify the purchase of the upcoming Mac Pro with Apple Silicon for the average consumer or tech enthusiasts.

[@peterwan816]

0:12 it takes time for all devices to transition to Wifi 6E or support Wifi 6E which will then, makes wifi 6E router meaningful.

[@Illyria1217]

I bought my 2021 M1 MacBook Pro 14 brand new from Best Buy for $1600 because it was on sale a few months ago.

[@MaxPowers1245]

yeah I’ve barely started using my M1 Max MacBook and one thing I do know is i’ve got no fomo here

[@thewiirocks]

$1539 for a refurbished 14" Mac Pro isn't much of a savings off the new ones. The new ones were going for $1599. I imagine it's still possible to pick one up in the next few days if you hurry.

[@_Digitalguy]

but Apple refurbished and new it's not much of a difference either

[@JosephRawsthorne31]

I love the Mac OS chinchilla naming ❤

[@Seedless_Mango]

I literally just ordered my certified refurbished 14inch m1 pro today. I’m glad youtube recommended me this video to solidify my purchase.

[@TailosiveTech]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@benjaminwinberg9372]

I wanna be able to game ”on the go” with mine. I have a stationary pc atm. M2 seems to be the better option for more fps. Am I wrong?😅

[@lewisw.6768]

A good video, thx…..Plus, would I be able to use all the M2 features - given my work flow, and given the software I use? Would the M2 specs be a benefit to what my daily tasks are?

[@Senuta76]

I’m still using my 2017 MacBook Pro with the Intel and I still never have any issues. Yeah I might be a little slower than the new ones but still is a beast but if the M3 does come out I’ll be considering it.

[@aresmoraitis1784]

I had dual core basic MBP 2017 and that devices got on nerves everyday. It crashed, was slow, battery almost dead and so on. I am glad that I purchased the M1 Pro MBP. It is just gorgeous.

[@frazerweb]

I've bought next to new macs from pawnbroker the last one being an M1 13 mbp with 512gb hd and 8gb of ram for £800 it's box in mint condition, rather than paying £1350. Same with my Samsung s22 256gb model ultra mint condition at far less than retail price. Both these items work and saved £800 because they are used products. Already seeing the 14 inch map m1 max dropping to £1000 as for mac minis they values drops like a stone after a year. Seen an M1 for as little as £500. I'd forget refurbished or new and buy a used as long as its good condition with some warranty. All be junk in 4 years so why waste money on new.

[@Sentient_Cookies]

To be honest. I Wouldent worry about os support for the future opencore legacy patcher is much better then buying a whole new MacBook. I have a 2015 MacBook Air and it runs Ventura just fine with opencore

[@matthewmatiki]

M1 Pro and Max are even more worth it especially in the UK as there was a huge price jump for the M2 Mac Pros . It went from £1,900 to £2,500.

[@TheBardsCorner]

The only reason why I didn’t buy M1 Pro/Max was that I wanted to avoid Gen1 issues as I’ve experienced with my current 2016 MBP.

[@davidlazarus67]

I waited to hear the reviews before I bought. I had considered a M2 Air but the reviews showed that it wasn’t such a great upgrade.

[@davidhepworth3956]

I'm still running my 27" iMac from 2019 on Big Sur, Apple has been dropping support for Intel very quickly and they generally support macOS releases with security updates for 3 years so I'm guessing that macOS 14 will drop support for my Mac but Big Sur's still working fine so I'll keep using it for another few years. In regards to the next Mac I purchase in another 3 or 4 years I'll definitely look at getting a refurbished one whether we're on the M3 Pro or M4 Pro at that point since my Mac doesn't get much usage.

[@KoenKooi]

I used opencore legacy patcher to install ventura on my 2015 imac 5k and it’s working very well. The hardest part was clearing enough crud to get 30GB of free disk space :)

[@mutedmutiny9542]

love the skit. These are literally the things no one thinks about. Do I want 6e and HDMI 2.1? Yeah, sure.... but do I NEED them? Hell no. I can't even use them right now because I don't have the other devices that require them to work. I already have 1G wifi with a wifi 6 (not 6e) router, and 1G is my fiber speed, so I'm not gonna get any faster than that.

[@FutureRideshareMillionaire]

I'm an editor. Can I use dual monitors on that laptop?

[@livendi3229]

I have an old i7 2016 MBP, I’m not starting behind and buying an old model.

[@Luca-it4yk]

I bought a week ago MacBook m1 pro 16”. do you think it is appropriate to return and take a new model with m2 chip?

[@CarsTechWood]

M1 Pro 14” $1385 apple refurbished with my discount : ) Returning it tho cause I found a M2 Air 512GB 10 core GPU used for $600

[@robertblack7610]

I decided to thank you, got refurbished higher spec M1mac Pro for £500 less than original and £200 less than the base model when new

[@lbnycity89]

They already have Wi-Fi7 routers on the way. So I’m assuming won the M3 products release it will be prepared for Wi-Fi. 7. TP Link has one available for pre-order for $700..

[@VRKtaka]

You just guided me in first 20 secs of your video.. Now tats called sharing some knowledge and helping people to decide wt to buy.. Yeah , I have watched whole video and helped me decide ..👍 Tx broda..

[@MaxsuelMaccari]

Two reasons I bought the M2 Max: hdmi 2.1 (because of my monitor), and CPU performance and eficiency.

[@trevyn95]

I literally just bought an M1 Pro 14 inch refurbished. So much bang for the buck.

[@DanThomas1161]

Just 2 daus ago I bought 10 core Cpu M1 Max 16' MBP, 64gb ram and 1tb ssd on Irish refurbished store for €3.430. Same spec M2 Max (aside of now new 12core GPU Cpu and 38core GPU of course), price €4.700. I think i got myself a good deal.

[@garryhall9660]

Dont need to preach to the alreaady converted. was going for an M2 Macbook Air 15 as the carry about to compement my M1 16 inch Pro. after waiting and taking in the many videos that said the air was great and now the story has changed. so went for a 14 inch M1 pro. not much difference in the weight but the performance is better.

[@91lovemusic]

I don’t have laptop but i plan to buy MacBook. Which MacBook should i buy? M1pro or M2pro 14inch? I going to use for data analyst. It’s hard to decide bcs it’s really expensive I don’t want make mistakes

[@katseverino1085]

Get a brand new M1 Pro MacBook Pro from Best Buy. You will save a lot of money, and it will last for years. 14 inch is cheaper than 16 inch, and will serve you well.

[@JAY-bb7yc]

Keeping my M1 Pro 👍

[@tony.cortez]

Same here, I have the m1 pro 14” mbp, will wait for the m3 pro for that 3nm.

[@ConvictedFelon0]

Costco sells the 14 inch brand new for 1599 which is in my opinion the best deal out there

[@KlutchAndJerel]

Does Apple not support refurbished products as long as new ones? I bought a refurbished 2011 inch iPad Pro, and for whatever reason I can’t download iOS 16.

[@janHodle]

There is no reason to upgrade my MacBook Pro M1Pro base model. I work as a developer in data context. The machine is soooo great. So when I don‘t Max out the M1Pro I don‘t need a M2Pro.

[@jronmantech]

Is it just me or is the battery life on the M1 Max 16 inch mb pro kinda bad? They say it is really good but I didn’t really notice much different over my 2013 15 inch retina mb pro

[@elith6930]

Did the refurbed high-end MacBook pros just come out or have they been available for a while?

[@BaconFaceMcGee]

I wonder how small the processors will get. Apple keeps shrinking them. Will they stop at 1NM?

[@alejandrovallencci]

“I need my Macbook to have as many years of software support as possible” Uhh my boyfriend has a 2017 Macbook Pro running MacOS Ventura, is 6 years not good enough?

[@wezter96]

Main issue with older ones is imo that they only support one external monitor

[@Nikitav23]

Liked the honesty on the beginning lol

[@neonflairone293]

Same display? WRONG 🛑 you forgot it’s 120hz compared to 60hz to M1 or M2 (2022)

[@faruzzy]

I have no words but Thank You sir! You just saved me a bunch of money!

[@LocustAndWildHoney]

This is the exact video I was looking for

[@shahsaa1]

Ehh I’m coming from a 2011 MacBook Pro and the only reason I’m buying bc I spilt water 😢 I love that laptop

[@brokendystopia]

Agreed but 5nm isn’t an architecture but a manufacturing process

[@mattvmani]

Well considering I just got a brand new 16” MacBook Pro yesterday for $2099 it’s a hell of a “deal”. I am certain at the base line we are not looking at a $400 plus even more tax of an improvement. Since these macs were delayed I’m almost certain it’s worth skipping this generation. The M2 Pro is at best 30-40% better on the cherry picked perfect scenario. Why would you care that instead of waiting 10 minutes you waited 7 or 8 depending on whether is gpu or cpu heavy. Wi-Fi 6e is pointless unless you’re in a Wi-Fi dense area and can opt for the new frequency. At home Wi-Fi 6 covers the speed of im sure 99% of home internet connections. Hdmi 2.1 is great but what is the base consumer going to do with it? The laptop cannot handle games on 4k at 120hz. Certainly not 8k. We are going to see a real leap at 3nm. I would bet it will blow away the M2 Pro, Max etc. You will get real world power savings gaining more than a single hour. The ability to dissipate heat while running faster will be improved by a margin. My personal use case is I need exceptional battery for IT work, a big screen, and I run parallels for gaming. I cannot afford to max the laptop out either so bumping up 3 GPU cares is not going to bring a 40% uplift in windows games. Even if it did, going from 48-60 fps is not worth $400+ from $2099. IMO you should only buy an M2 Pro laptop if you can’t find an M1 Pro, or just have the money to spend. You’re hardly upgrading from an M1 Pro on the base level and when the 3nm comes out, you’re going to want to trade up guaranteed. Those kinds of leaps only come every 5-10 years and from now, you only have to wait 1-2 years.

[@arjungandhi1242]

i ended up getting a M1 pro macbook pro over the holidays when it was on sale. It's already more performance than I really need. I don't do any content creation. It's a glorified chromebook + Microsoft office machine for me. If I want to game I do so on console.

[@VladPayne]

Pro, Max machines usually are bought by people that actually need them for professonal reasons. I rely on my MBP to make me money like a tool, so that 500$ difference is covered in couple of days work

[@aisharehman9779]

HDMI 2.1 can do either 8k 60hz, or 4k 120hz. Not 4k 240hz.

[@mattvmani]

Yes it can, it depends on the bandwidth of the port and if compression is used.

[@fernandoisturizphotography]

I just bought an m1 pro MacBook Pro EBay Refurbished and I’m waiting on it, it’ll arrive tomorrow, I got the 14 inch 16gb 1 tb for 1500$ and I’m upgrading from my still fully functional MacBook Pro 2015 which I still love, but when I edit photos in lr and ps at the same time it’s just terrible, but other than that works great. But yes, basically I went with this option and saved 1k$ because the exact same m2 it’ll be 2400 plus taxes.

[@TailosiveTech]

That’s amazing! I hope you like it!

[@gurugamer8632]

For 8k video editing do you need the m2 pro or m2 max and how about ram 64gb or 90?

[@gabedamien]

Thanks for the vid. I'm not loving my 2019 13" MBP (Intel). It's _fine_ but I have a 2021 14" MBP (M1) from work and it is just so, so, so much better. But I wasn't loving the idea of spending $2k+ on a new 2023 14" MBP (M2). Refurb M1 sounds like it will work just dandy for me and save money I can put towards one of my many hobbies (*cries in photography*). Hadn't even thought about it before!

[@martinrev8487]

Good point on the 5 nanometer.