M16A4 Iron Sights to 500yds: Practical Accuracy (BCM upper)

[@cjr4286]

The gun is long. The barrel is not free-floated. There are no fancy optics. And it gets one of the best scores ever on 9-Hole Reviews. What a testament to both the original M16 premise and Henry Chan's abilities!

[@anthonyhallsten6578]

Cj R long barrel = more velocity Free float barrel doesn’t matter when your shooting 21 rounds. Nobody should need optics when firing this out to 500 yards. This is probably the easiest weapon to connect with at 500 yards and in with iron sights.

[@anthonyhallsten6578]

Infectious Legume Problem with what you are saying is, this IS a controlled setting, and I’m not confusing free floating with heavy. If you are firing 21 rounds at this slow a pace, the barrel shouldn’t get hot enough to need to flex and “do its thing” as everyone says these days. There’s a reason the M16A4 has been a service rifle for so long. If us “dumbass” Marines can easily connect at 500 yards on a range consistently with iron sights, then so can anybody else.

[@anthonyhallsten6578]

Infectious Legume you’re getting way too technical with what you’re thinking I said versus what I know I said, and just basically trying to argue for the sake of arguing. All I know is I had used one of these A4’s for 4 years straight before getting issued an M4 and this weapon system will reach out a hell of a lot further than just 500. And yeah, I never shot 55 grain projectiles with it, because we were issued M855 rather than XM193. I was however, able to connect out to a little over 800 meters, in shitty conditions, onto moving hard targets as well a stationary and slow moving soft targets just fine with a 4x optic. I get that that’s not with iron sights, but I have also connected well out to 500 yards with iron sights on this rifle and was able to shoot 12 inch groups with no problem whatsoever. I understand the harmonics, and that the vibration of the projectile passing through the barrel can cause point of impact shift due to barrel movement but to be quite honest, I never had any issues with it. I said what I said because I meant it lol. I don’t just say shit on here to say things. The guy was in awe that this rifle was able to reach out and touch at these ranges and I just wanted to state that this weapon system is pretty much perfect for just that. A 20” barrel and a 3000 FPS muzzle velocity makes it pretty easy to connect not only at 500, but at the 800 meter MER of this rifle. 55 grain, 62 grain, 69 grain, 77 grain...it doesn’t matter. If you can shoot, you can shoot. If you can’t, then it’s easy to make excuses.

[@anthonyhallsten6578]

Infectious Legume would you like me to agree with everything you say? I agree with everything you say. Do you feel better? Chill out man. Henry is honestly a terrible shot. 90% of his videos he is making stupid mistakes and rushing. As for me making a “big dumb ass statement about my David Crockett Jarhead eagle eye skills”, I simply told you how it is for me. Personally, I shoot well at distance, and most guys I know and shoot with do as well. If you don’t then I don’t know what to tell you. You can throw science and physics out there all day, but’s it’s not like it can’t be overcome with some simple sight adjustments and a hold over lol. Physics are physics. You just have to adjust for variable factors and do your fucking thing. It’s not that hard. And you can throw your statements about projectile energy on target at that range as well, and all I’m going to say in rebuttal is: I’ve seen a 5.56 round take people out at those ranges. I’ve seen it multiple times. I’m not here to go all hoorah and be some fucking motard. I’m stating that I’ve seen the round work, I’ve seen the rifle work, I’ve made both of them work at long range. You’re the one who came here with your big ole dick draggin in the sand, quoting me and trying to pick at every little thing I said because of your vast experience at matches and other places where you shoot at stationary pieces of paper or steel lol. Take a Xanax, grab a glass of whiskey, and relax or something man. You’re wound wayyyy too tight. Have a good night buddy🤙

[@josephjoestar3275]

@@anthonyhallsten6578 tl;dr

[@1015practicalshooting]

Ahh the m16 brings back so many fond memories of being in the front leaning rest at Ft.sill during basic.

[@9HoleReviews]

My M16 memory was rucking up Agony, Misery and Heartbreak on Ft. Knox. Over and Over.

[@1015practicalshooting]

@@9HoleReviews school of hard Knox

[@16Tango]

My favorite memory from Basic at Sill in 93 was getting to shoot our A1's on full auto after night fire, good times.

[@josephrogers8213]

Push Ft Sill away

[@MD-xl9df]

Thanks for the reminder that you don't need fancy optics to kill things!

[@DSRT888]

@Bhum Brahmavira lol

[@willb8684]

my eyes arent what they use to be...everyone should learn on irons though..

[@oscarhawkley]

Now look what you've done! You've inspired the terminators

[@baker90338]

Terminator T3000 we all know you’re saying that so we’re at a disadvantage when you rise up.

[@boomerisadog3899]

@@willb8684 I've been teaching my grandson to shoot with a S&W 15-22. He's only 6 and was having trouble with the Magpul buis so I put a cheap Tru-Glow red dot that I had on a 12 gauge on it. It's still hard for him to stay on target shooting off hand for more than a couple rounds but off a rest he can put all 25 rounds on 8" steel plate at 50 yards as fast as he can pull the trigger. Once he gets a little more comfortable with it I'll teach him how to shoot irons but the red dot has really helped get his confidence up.

[@pdnhouse]

Solid work there. It's nice to see a competent rifleman using shelf grade ammo, irons, and a 20" upper to connect downrange. *Practical* accuracy is exactly right. Well done!

[@m1911legend]

Excellent shooting. Those irons are really nice for a combat rifle. No wonder the marine corp stuck to their a4's for so long

[@JT-yz4rj]

m1911legend definitely. The iron sights are great, but then you slap the RCO on top and it becomes effortless.

[@krysistheabyss]

You still shoot the A4 at MCRD

[@TeufulHundenAirsoft]

Still wish we had them in the fleet. I always try and trade the POGs my M4 for their sweet 16

[@natrone23]

@Nick 718 A4 came out before Acogs. We started getting A4's in 2004 Acogs didn't come to the marine corps until 2005 and that was late 2005 and only 1 per squad. I got out in Sept 2005 and never had an Acog, I was infantry. Not sure when every Grunt was issued an Acog.

[@natrone23]

Nick 718 I see what you mean now.

[@colliscampbell816]

This is what the M16 was always suppose to be. 20" of pure death! Rock on!

[@sean7625]

The musket shoots everyone

[@lordemarsh6804]

Lol ..id rather be shot at by this than a 7.62 anyday

[@MrWassup45]

@@lordemarsh6804 lol ok grandpa

[@lordemarsh6804]

@Travers Kilroy Cooper Alvirez i've seen people walk off from a 5.56 round, i've seen people still firing back after a hit from a 5.56....but a larger caliber they always stay down...i've been and have seen im action

[@timothyripley4175]

@@lordemarsh6804 people have been known to walk away from 7.62 also, 5.56s are a medics worst nightmare, you can work with 7.62

[@everythingphil9376]

5.56 from 20" barrel... the way it was meant to be shot from. Hope you'll try the same test with M193 in the future.

[@SaftonYT]

Not every application can accommodate a full-length barrel. There's a reason that there's been a steady transition toward shorter barrels.

[@everythingphil9376]

There's been steady cases of "ice picking" as well.

[@SaftonYT]

@@everythingphil9376 With legacy M855 at extended ranges, yes.

[@everythingphil9376]

@@SaftonYT Damn Belgiums.

[@bobojo37]

77 grain OTMs from a 20" barrel will ruin most deer-sized thing's (or smaller) day. All the people who call the .223 a pea shooter have never seen that combination at work.

[@reddevilparatrooper]

The A4 is indeed a lot more accurate because majority of all A2s have been around since the late 1980s and the barrels were heavily fouled with copper. Especially service rifles. The A4s were brand new around the early 2000s when they were issued. Very few Basic Training units had A4s because A2s were still plenty in supply. A4s were issued out of the box to regular units and went into combat after they were zeroed. The Marines I think got the majority of all A4s during the mid 2000s. Because around 2003 and beyond Army National Guard infantry units had A4s with BUIS , standard detachable carrying handle sights, or early M68 Aimpoints. By the early 2000s majority of Army infantry units especially those destined for Iraq or Afghanistan were all equipped with M4s and Aimpoints with BUIS. In 2006 through 08 when I was in Iraq all soldiers not infantry were armed with A4s with standard sights and A2s on the FOBs. The truck drivers who went on convoys and convoy security had regular battle sights even on the roads of Iraq. Only the infantrymen had goodies on their rifles. With the exception of Artillery guys who were made into infantry, Combat Engineers, Cav Scouts, and Tankers were equipped like the infantry.

[@Sergeant1127]

@Travis Thacker "pest control" ?

[@charlesbukowski9836]

aint you a singenie.... LOL great info though..

[@charlesbukowski9836]

Is it because CLP is a poor bore cleaner? I am researching now what is best for my FN A4 upper barrel... I am reading some stuff is horrible and are actually eating barrels..

[@charlesbukowski9836]

OH.. BTW, my 16A2 at MCRD SD was so worn it was completely silver... and I could twist the upper and lower I think was more than a 1/4 inch LMAO... still BARELY qualified expert though

[@reddevilparatrooper]

@@charlesbukowski9836 The reason is I have found shooting old M16A1 barrels made by Colt heavily chromed. Even Colt barrels on M16A2s. FN barrels on FN manufactured rifles were in tolerance of service requirements. Colt rifles had good quality control because of decades of experience. FN in the late 90s and early 2000s had issues of quality control because it was made to the technical package provided to them.

[@sandy1653]

Irons to 500 yards? I'm gonna need to see the quartermaster and get some new eyeballs issued. Either way, good job guys.

[@spdfatomicstructure]

Bruh you'll need either an ACOG or an ophthalmologist

[@discontinued8502]

Good shooting, great work for iron sights

[@ImperialAgent-us3kn]

m4a1 and m16 the best looking ar rifle out there.

[@johnparrish9215]

All right, damn it. That rifle was still in Trials when I retired. I always wanted to try that one.

[@Sean2002FU]

Thank you for a real world test of the m-16!!! Your evaluation proves what I've been saying for years!! The a2 -a4 series are the best setups for general use.....forget your fancy optics, and flat top recievers, when properly trained you can take an a2 out to 600 yards, and under 400 its point of aim point of impact! With out question the top ar configuration..! Says I, former marine competitive shooter, both military, and civilian matches.

[@EDOGZ818]

Semper Fi! While I do agree, I also have to say, those fancy pants optics help but, shouldn't be 100% relied on.

[@winkleried]

Love the full sized AR rifles. Might have something to do with carrying both the A1 and the A2 when I was active duty Infantry. The performance of the Iron Sights did not surprise me in the least.

[@msantifort]

In most of your videos it seems like 350yds is always the hardest for you. Great video. Love my FN 20" upper with ACOG. They shoot awesome.

[@billybadass9031]

My brother now retired military was visiting me when he was still in the service and I showed him my M16 carry handle build that I of course had perfectly zeroed. He wanted to flip the open rear sight to the peep sight and he started spinning the windage knob... Army moment.

[@Jesses001]

A dioptic rear with slender front post. My favorite iron sights ever. I give them the best compliment I can for sights, I almost do not realize they are there. Just think where you want to hit, and it happens.

[@Motoboo_Marine]

20" ARs are my favorite. Loved my M16A4 when I was in. Great for a bayonet fight, too lol.

[@sancocho1718]

Reminds me of my time in the Corps. Qualifications with iron sights, ACOGS are nice but there's something about using all your skills with iron sights. From windcall adjustments, sight alignment and sight picture. It was very satisfying geting ten out of ten at the 500 yard line.

[@EDOGZ818]

I got 10 out of 10 at 2 & 300 but missed a few at 500 for low expert! Semper Fi!

[@2ndkombat]

I've trained with this. Very good rifle, very accurate. We trained to hit targets up to 300m and hitting it with my 19 years old eyes with iron sight was no problem.

[@torahouse2006]

Shooting targets, having coffee; a morning activity that I am extremely jealous of!

[@davidtennien2806]

Nose to charging handle, that's the way I was taught. The 20" is still my favorite. Got to be, like me, 11B Infantry!

[@Actuary1776]

Beautiful rifle

[@黃偉涵-y3y]

me too

[@vidright]

Beautiful rifle with one massive disadvantage: the direct impingement system

[@Actuary1776]

vidright What exactly is wrong with the DI system? They’ve have been used successfully for decades.

[@bullmeatt]

@@vidright thats its advantage actually, more accurate and lighter

[@j.bernard6944]

@@vidright it's not the DI system...its how the Mil trains service member to clean their rifles. Most are taught that lubercation is messy and a rifle should be squeeky clean.

[@mrtlsimon]

Good job. I would always hit 10 out of 10 rounds in the black, at 500 yards, during qualifying in the Marine Corps using the M16A2. Yet I would pull an occasional round at closer "easy" distances. Love the series, thank you for your hard work putting this out.

[@bass779]

The 500 target is also huge, which helps.

[@Grabbagar670]

*BACK IN MY DAY WE USED IRON SIGHTS* intensifies.

[@bass779]

@Bhum Brahmavira I was suggesting that the 500 yard USMC KD target is vastly bigger than the 200-300 targets, making them easier to hit (although still not easy). You are suggesting 500m is too far to hit a man sized target? The shooter in the video just did, and all Marines have to just for basic qualification.

[@bass779]

@Bhum Brahmavira ...ok. Terminal ballistics is definitely a thing. Still a useful skill, especially against a less trained/capable force, like the US Army. 😲

[@mikeyob4271]

True..i hate when i fu×k up an easy shot..waste AMMO

[@seph7450]

Was absolutely great watching this on my break time at work. I'm really impressed that you did so well with irons out to 500. Now bring us le M4 with irons!

[@9HoleReviews]

The M4 did not go so well.......but it's done with post production and coming soon.

[@bobojo37]

I struggle with my irons (standard M16A4 irons) out to 100, whereas he *starts* there. Kudos to your skill.

[@mcantu197]

Are you using the 0-2 marked peep sight?

[@scottcampbell2836]

Why on earth you struggle? Is your vision good? Or not know how to use them?

[@pogmarinefps]

When I went to Marine Corps Boot Camp in 2009 we used M16A2 and they only had Iron sights all the way to 500. Awesome Rifle! Love it!

[@nick3777]

Those were there days 🦅 🌎 ⚓️

[@diligentsun1154]

Same for us in '87 (Had to 'get strong' with it, first. Shout out to Rifle PT! Hold it out to your side, by the A frame, with your arm straight! I think you know what I mean...)

[@soldieramerican5964]

Every-time I went to the range while I was in the USMC, that’s my rifle type. Minus the vertical grip, and flashlight.

[@ReapingRose115]

There's something about an M16 that appeals to me more than the M4 rifles. Yes they are of the same breed but the M4 has since taken centre stage... One thing that I can never forget is the M16, thanks to 90s and early 2000s Hollywood and videogames I imagine that its role being taken over by its shorter brother wasn't an easy goodbye to those who valued it.

[@rabbitdrink]

m4s are usually shorter (not even 16 inch barrels) for shooting at really close distances

[@dexm2010]

@ ReapingRose115 I use to hate the M16A2 (and to lesser extent A4) until I had to use M4s consistently for work...The M4s are easier for getting in and out of vehicles with, but overall in retrospect I like the 20" rifles with fixed stocks better.

[@Flashhideronly]

Love this rifle, but maaaaan I do wish you would do another video with some quality glass on it to really push it out and see what it can do

[@SYKO415]

Would like to see a SKS long range practical accuracy video come out in the future. Keep up the good vids!

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

Check out AK Operators Union... they wring them out all the time....

[@ChrisFowlerNH]

I own a Windham Maine Bushmaster XM-15E2S HBAR 20" A2 style and it's still my favorite rifle. It's a beast.

[@XFile91]

My favorite Rifle. The M16 is such a beautiful and effective firearm.

[@Kickstart_KDE]

There will never be a video you guys upload that I will not interrupt whatever I'm doing to watch. Love these videos. Thank you for all that you do.

[@louisarius9672]

Holy shit it's damn accurate. Always love the M16A4.

[@N0MAD17]

Wow. I have subscribed to you guys for years but just now saw this video. I have this rifle. I got it about 10 years ago. I only shot up to 300yards. Great to see it perform well. I also have the Knights Armament handguard.

[@JC_R8MEOW]

I have to admit that I was kind of surprised at just how quickly you were able to make hits past 300.

[@tuck234]

Dammit! I wanna do a M16A4 clone now. lol Awesome shooting, Henry. Was a pleasure meeting you man! Hopefully we can meet up at the range sometime. And the MaTech can't be too bad... Is it? lol

[@ericmathis7740]

"foot off the gas a lil bit"👍 good call love it.

[@cattalkbmx]

Awesome, you told me this one was done awhile back and I've been waiting for it. Love your videos.

[@leemcginnis738]

Why was the hammer lying on the deck? You weren't shooting the Mosin Nagant! 😂 Great shooting 👍

[@ghostmourn]

IRON SIGHTS FTW! This made me realize that I had this bogus idea about the M16/AR; I identified the flip up sights as 'modern' and 'modular' and the Iron sights/carry-handle as a vintage & somehow less capable. It seems I things exactly backwards. Thanks for the education.

[@jeffk3037]

I was trained with irons, when we started geting acogs, it really took some adjustment to get comfortable with it. And with the saw, i never liked using optics

[@spdfatomicstructure]

If I wanted an M16 I would probably roll with the HK416 with a bipod. With that rail I can either mount various low-magnification sights (red dots, holo sights and 1.5x ACOGs) and use them together with a 30-round mag for use as a typical assault rifle, or mount a 3.5x Squad Day Optic or a 3.4x C79 scope and use it together with a 60-round mag for use as a DMR and SAW/LMG

[@EDOGZ818]

Definitely had it backwards.

[@msantifort]

Some days I can"t miss at 800yds and then I miss badly at 300yds. Don't feel bad it happens to every long range shooter. Great video, it reminds me even the best miss. God Bless. It's just part of shooting for precision. If we shot perfect every time it would become boring and we would have nothing to strive for.

[@danendraarkananta9442]

Bubba10 you need to re zero the iron sight after you shoot it at 800 yard

[@msantifort]

@@danendraarkananta9442 I was referring to my scoped rifles. I can't hit at 800yds with iron sights. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[@АндрейЦиников]

Good shooting. Henry and Josh proved that sometimes they are able to do this job.

[@6.8SuperDutyDriver]

That was some pretty good shooting for iron sights and regular sized targets.

[@reln72]

Going to shooting an M16 tonight as part of my training as a volunteer cop. Kinda cool. Its been 25 years since I've used one

[@paultoy9611]

Still a fine weapon.Nice adjustments in shooting

[@rednecksniper4715]

Ever though of doing a video on the M1917 which btw was the first US service rifle to use an aperture sight and ever single US service rifle since has had an aperture sight

[@americanmilitiaman88]

Sgt york used a M1917. I had one that had a boyd stock on it. Wished it was original. Made by winchester in may 1918

[@rednecksniper4715]

CB1942EO I love my M1917 I went to the range the other day took it to 300 yards hit an 18” steel plate 19/24 shots

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

The M1903 ladder sight has not one but two apertures built into it, each designed for a different purpose. If the user opted for snap shooting, there was a battle-sight zero notch as well - graduated to 550 or so yards, if memory serves. A zero which would be roughly 10-12 inches high at 100 yards. The M1905-1906 sights - the leaf or ladder sights which originally equipped M1903 rifles - are actually very good sights, but they do take some time and effort to master. Why so many functions built into a rear sight? The answer lies in the fact that in those now-distant times, when military-pattern bolt-action rifles firing powerful center-fire smokeless powder cartridges were still relatively new, military authorities and designers still believed that wars would be fought at extended ranges, well in excess of the 100-200 yards customary before the invention of smokeless propellants in the 1880s. In those days, a rifle section was considered an area-denial weapon, which is why M1903 sights were graduated out to 2,000 yards. If an officer or NCO spotted enemy troops massing in the distance for an attack, he could direct fire from his section - platoon, company, whatever - onto them in an effort to break-up their attack. By optical observation and skilled range-finding, rounds could be walked onto the mass of enemy troops. When crew-served weapons came into widespread use in WWI, such as heavy MGs, mortars and fast-firing artillery, these weapons replaced rifles as area-denial weapons at long range. The Japanese even built an anti-aircraft sight into their sighting system on the Arisaka bolt-action. Later, when it as discovered that most modern infantry small arms engagements took place at ranges under 300 yards, these various extra functions on rifle sights became superfluous and unnecessary, which resulted in simpler and more-intuitive designs easier for the soldier to use under pressure in the field.

[@troy9477]

I love mine. Rem made M1917. 3 digit serial #. Likely it never went overseas.

[@Grabbagar670]

Doing that USMC qual huh 🦅🌎⚓️

[@nuclearjanitors]

Not quite, have to hit in the black to qual expert.

[@M4A1_DELTA6]

all about that Army Ranger man

[@narcotics-eb3om]

@@M4A1_DELTA6 hell yes!! RANGERS lead the way

[@M4A1_DELTA6]

end of the day Army,Corps,Navy,AF,CG, yall my heroes

[@waynet8327]

I used to be really impressed of how you hit the target without telescopes sight but after seeing Jerry Miculek hit the target standing up, no props to steady his revolver, he hit 1000 yards target on his 2nd shot.....amazing!!!!

[@9HoleReviews]

Wayne T jerry is the undisputed GOAT, but we do two shots or multiple targets for a reason. Love to have Jerry hang out, Josh has shot with him on a few occasions.

[@Saa45MIV]

Love these vids! Makes me want to get out to the range.. some other cool ideas would be running some cheep 300$ out of the box hunting rifles through the course.. or a sharps 45-70 would be badass too..

[@oftenwrong.]

I have a Colt AR15A4. What a wonderful rifle! It’s accurate and light and durable as far as I can tell it probably has 2000 rounds threw it. I could not afford the BCM and the salesman suggested the Colt. I’m glad he did! Best regards

[@kentuckyboy541]

Eugene stoner approved. 20" gas length as God intended.

[@wolvesgabemaster5385]

I don't know why, but this shooting range episode felt so satisfying.

[@Silveradocowby07]

Ohh work to be done.. no time.. must get report out.. ohh LOOK 9-Hole video.. screw work!!

[@9HoleReviews]

We appreciate your dedication

[@gregHePilots]

Follow up with clients....... oh look 9-Hole.....

[@tomlee6263]

Nice shooting. I find a red dot with iron back up is all I need. In normal combat anything over 100 meters is pretty much suppressive fire anyways, cause enemy tends to get behind cover real quick. Gongs sit there forever.

[@JHo_485]

I am definitely considering getting the civilian version, of course, it has served me well during my time in the Marine Corps

[@saltysteel3996]

When I was in Marine Corps bootcamp I had a Colt M16A2. Iron sights. We qualify on the rifle range starting at 200 yards, then 300, and finally at 500. I qualified Expert with a score of 245 out of a possible 250. I qualified Expert every year in the Marines. Even with the FN M16A4 with an ACOG. The ACOG is actually harder to use for precision shooting than good ole iron sights. The BDC in the ACOG is calibrated in meters, not yards. The ACOG is better for fast firing in combat situations.

[@9HoleReviews]

I could not agree more. The Marine Corps actually steered the US Armed Forces to adapt the A2 sights during the M16A1-> M16A2 program.. and they were spot on with the sight design. Rugged, easy to use, damned precise too.

[@Honey_butter_mmm]

Would recommend placing something under the tripod loges to prevent/reduce the camera from shaking when shooting. Keep up the great content!!

[@johntaylor346]

Qualified with A1(Vietnam era Armalites and Colts) in 87 had a malfunction. My drill jumped up and down on the rifle and got it cleared. Up to that point I hit every pop up to 300 meters. It didn't matter how much we cleaned them you just never knew. Got to qualify with German weapon. Now that was a rifle. Spc4 93 engr. Co. Karlsruhe Germany Neureit kaserne.

[@josephrogers8213]

They were the same 77/81

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

The velocity difference between 20” and 16” bbl is sometimes huge people don’t realize can make a very big difference

[@rabbitdrink]

m193 was designed with 20" in mind after all

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

When using M193 55-grain FMJ/ball ammo, those extra four inches of barrel length were important, because the original ammunition for the M16 derived part of its lethality (n terminal ballistics terms) from velocity. Specifically, above 2750-2800 fps, the M193 bullet could be induced to shatter into several fragments, increasing its effect on target. Below that MV, M193 is still lethal, just not as reliably so. In practical terms, it means that a 20-inch barrel M16 has an envelope of hyper-effectiveness out to 150 meters using M193Ball, whereas the M4 Carbine sees that same envelope reduced to 75 meters. High MV remained important with 62-grain M855 62-grain green-tip, but modern ammunition utilized more-advanced technology for their projectiles, and is not as dependent on high MV for its effectiveness.

[@elcuh9506]

@@GeorgiaBoy1961 i want you to explain guns to me every night b4 i go to sleep

[@GeorgiaBoy1961]

@@elcuh9506 - Very funny, wise ass! I probably earned that remark....

[@Dane-bootsNcatsN]

These two are such a great shooting team. They mesh together great

[@Frangoh]

Super video, great shooting, it's cool that you hit better with iron sights than with the ACOG. Eagle eye ;-). Greetings from Germany

[@winkleried]

Frangoh if those are anything like the sights on my AR15A2. They are pretty easy to use. I need to compare my Irons with the 4x carry handle scope I have currently on my rifle. My suspicion is the irons would be more accurate than the glass, even with my almost 50 year old eyes.

[@Frangoh]

Hello winkleried, ok, i´m 54 now and my eyes are not the best anymore. It‘s good up to 100 meters, with iron sights but then its gets worse and i have to use scope. :-(

[@seijiroukikuoka5975]

Revisiting this video at almost four years later, I can still confirm that the M16A4 is very capable. 1.5 MOA thereabouts with PMC M855, and a bit less with M855A1. If you use 77gr OTM, it could even do MOA. The M16A4 can be unwieldy, no doubt, but it is the finest iteration of a full length rifle. Its capabilities deserved to be repeated. I speak as a five-year owner of an FN M16A4. I love that rifle then, and now.

[@tracytorres8755]

damm without scope it did clear shot 500 yards awesome!!

[@imbrandon16]

Looks so cool! I want a 20" modern looking m16 clone! I have a tricked out 14.5" mid length tacticool ar i built, and a cheeeeap cheeeeap bear bones ass psa 16" Carbine kit I just ordered as a beater, i'm starting to get back into shooting.

[@rdsii64]

Without a free float barrel, that rifle was within "minute of chest cavity" out the practical limits of the cartridge. Simply swap the carry handle for an appropriate optic, and you have quick and dirty DMR set up that a disciplined and well practiced rifleman can put to good effect.

[@quattro4468]

Kac ras free floats are available.

[@rdsii64]

@@quattro4468 Yes they do and I believe the BCM also offers a free float that will allow you to keep the A frame front sight/gas block. We should have had them back in my day.

[@immikeurnot]

The rated max point target range of the A2 and A4 (iron sights) is actually 100 yards further than this test allows. This test only goes to the max effective range of the A1, M14 and Garand...

[@quattro4468]

@@rdsii64 thanks grandpa.

[@MountaintravelerEddie]

Uhhh we didn’t have a free float barrel in the Marine Corps and I could still shoot a Copenhagen can at 500 yards !!! “Minute of chest cavity my ass”....if the accuracy was that shitty....I would not be here to type this after 8 combat tours between Iraq, Afghanistan & Africa!!!! I used iron sights from 1998-2006 2006-2007 I used the RCO On the shooting team we used iron sights and still didn’t have a free float barrel I had what was issued to me and it killed its intended target...but sometimes it took up to 9 rounds with the M16..!! Using the M40A3 that was a free float barrel...but it was meant to be a precision rifle...sniping was more precise So was the competition rifles the shooting teams used... Back at the battalion armory....stock rifle works just as well... Use a piece of tape between the upper and lowers..to make the fit tight. Sight black the front sight and rear sights. I shot expert 16 times with a stock rifle!! Many times I did it standing USMC / Retired

[@cyborg2048]

That rifle with the surefire and ghetto grip bring back memories. Henry is getting me pumped up to go kick some doors!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I should you my palmetto state 18" .223 wylde to do one of these videos with... so people can see the difference between a nice ar and a cheap one

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@willl 88 yeah my 20" is about an MOA gun

[@sean7456]

Lol nice B8 M8.

[@armedfarm3429]

Nice shooting, I really like my 20" with handle sights, it's a blast to watch you shoot! I got to build me a range like that!

[@tjwest13]

Loving it. I’m seeing maybe some Matech Buis in the future?

[@9HoleReviews]

this week

[@iac4357]

@3:00 For the Unaware, the A2 Rear Sight can be adjusted to give you 100 &/or 50/200 meter Settings, which are below the stock "O.E.M." 300 meter lowest setting.

[@fns58]

4:35 Spaniard here, and didn't know that. Thank you for telling us, interesting!

[@GamePath]

Yup, we use both depending on the situation. We use metric for map reading too.

[@evanmartinez2049]

Henry made it look easy. Crazy good fundamentals.

[@L4zyN1nj4]

"i SHoT wiTH IrOns" Every staff nco

[@GamePath]

It really isn't that bad, especially with the M16.

[@goodensamuel25]

Yeah these new marines don't know anything about this...sad

[@GamePath]

@@zipper978 True.

[@naruhinafan94]

The thing most people don’t realize is if you suck at the fundamentals, you’ll actually suck with an RCO, especially at the 500. With irons, theres no way you can focus on the target and not your sights at that distance. You’d be surprised how many Staff NCOs qualed expert on irons, say shooting an RCO is easy, and then suck at it. Irons are definitely harder but don’t be the cocky prick that acts like they’re the end all be all

[@nuclearjanitors]

@@naruhinafan94 shut up

[@billbee235]

I put together a m16a4 clone’ish type of rifle that uses a White Oak free float tube and it’s amazing how accurate I can shoot with irons and my 77gr hand loads. I’ve connected out to 600 yards on an 66% IPSC pretty regularly.

[@Cubic_3]

After all these videos, I wonder.... how often do you let poor o' Josh shoot? :)

[@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf]

I think Josh is in charge of the close range tests while Henry is in charge for the long distances. However josh did shot his competition rifle once though, but yea Henry is the main owner of this channel so 🤷‍♂️ Edit: i would love to see more of the short distance tests with josh shooting though hehe

[@PygmyO]

The memories. Always had a bit of difficulty with this because I'm short as hell. But I miss it now that I'm stuck with a M4

[@beauknows1677]

I really do miss that bad boy. I loved it more than the m4

[@HellenicPandemic]

Yes! Amazing editing as always.

[@codebebop]

This made my day.

[@scumskimmer]

Such a classic beautiful gun

[@billcounterstrike]

Great video, keep it up!

[@devildog3246]

The first thing I thought when you missed at 350 was that you forgot to change your dope. I carried one for many years. That thing is silly accurate. If you can see it... You can hit it. Nice job guys.

[@9HoleReviews]

Was pretty much wind related on that one. And then maybe a bit of shooting too quick due to the annoyance of missing an "easy" shot, haha! Great rifle for sure.

[@josip2132]

Gj. Greets from Croatia ✌

[@MD-xl9df]

Za domovinu!

[@me2bfc]

I got a chance to try one of these style rifles yesterday. After shooting a dozen rounds or so, I was shocked how easy it is to hit. We only had a 100 yard range available, but a recreational shooter with no formal training (me) was able to hit and keep all the shots inside a 3" circle. Now I have to figure out how to put peep sights in my Henry and Marlin lever actions.

[@keenanwalker6597]

Beautiful rifle and another Beautiful video. Some very impressive shooting by the way I mean come on out to 500 only 3 misses with iron sights!? He did better with carry handle than acog

[@ratagris21]

Great job and excellent shooting as always and like your feedback not only verballly between the both of you, but as well as the stats at the end of the video.

[@9HoleReviews]

Appreciate that!

[@JustSumGuy01]

You didn't capitalize the "a" in M16A4 is messing with my OCD

[@Richardjohnson6969]

They fixed it

[@aaronorr5586]

Testing to see how much an OCD personality can take before 🤯.

[@JustSumGuy01]

@@Richardjohnson6969 Nope. In the video. The A is still lowercase

[@9HoleReviews]

Mah baaaaaaaad. -H

[@rideablepanda]

The benefits of the heavier 62 grains projectole as opposed to 55 is just so obvious. Shooting better with irons than with an ACOG at 300+. Insane.

[@mr_beezlebub3985]

I think the M16 A4 should have an adjustable stock, kinda like Canada’s C7A2.

[@Great.Dane.]

I had a c7 with fixed stock and with a stock extention, the c7a2 adjustable stock when full extended was just way too short for me. Nice rifle though.

[@xrmatt1010]

Mr_Beezlebub Fixed stocks are better, they don’t bend or get damaged when you have to mortar the rifle to clear stoppages.

[@armynurseboy]

I wish they would have stuck to the A1 stock length. The A2/A4 were always too long for me, and more so when we started shooting with body armor.

[@03Eleven16A4]

will be nice to revisit this run and have a deeper conversation regarding the sighting system used

[@rafaelg1570]

In my opinion m16a4 is the best DMR Rifle.

[@danendraarkananta9442]

So why SOCOM make MK 12 for 5.56 DMR

[@ShitBagSPC]

Nick 718 If you can carry it all day in the heat with 160 lbs of gear then sure

[@ShitBagSPC]

Nick 718 Obviously you've never done it armchair warrior

[@einzelfeuer_2855]

@Nick 718 I'm too fat and sweaty to carry a 308 all day along with all that gear but that doesn't make you wrong. Shame most dudes would rather pretend that 308 isn't better than admit they just aren't strong enough to carry it all day.

[@einzelfeuer_2855]

@Nick 718 Yeah as far as I see it there is nothing the 5.56 can do that a 308 can't do better. The "disadvantages" people list for 308 are VERY telling..."it's heavier, it recoils harder, it's more expensive, it's a bulkier rifle" etc...If you have the fitness and the cash there is only one drawback at all and that isn't even one that applies to all rifles evenly. A shorter barreled collapsible stock 308 like an FAL para or an M1A customized right or even the shorter barrel collapsible stock G3 type rifles are as compact as any 5.56 carbine. They just weigh a little more and kick a good deal harder with more muzzle rise. Again if you're fit enough, have the money and have the right rifle there is nothing a 5.56 can do that a 308 can't do better. You can even get 30 round 308 mags for FAL, G3, AR10, M1A, etc. Guys don't want to admit that they aren't as fit and wealthy as they imagine they are so they trash the bigger cartridged rifles instead of accepting that their choice of rifle is the best for them for the simple reason that they aren't cut out for the harder to use rifles. In militaries the world over they pick the bigger guys for automatic weapon duty and the more capable shooters get DMRs. Most nations use 30 caliber high velocity rounds for those tasks because they are simply better. Add to that that combat data shows more actual casualties are caused by the gunners and marksmen typically than the rest combined and it's even more proof that the intermediate chambered rifles/carbines are just compromise solutions to allow more people to be combat effective than otherwise would be.

[@davidtennien39]

The 20" will always be my favorite, not to mention the rifle length gas system is as smooth as a Cady.

[@jasonkidd8516]

I love the m16 any type it's so accurate

[@2aamerica329]

Best shooting vid on KZbin. Just sold me on a 20 inch build with irons;)

[@9HoleReviews]

You won't be disappointed.

[@AbbasBinYounas]

Beautiful weapon shot masterfully. RH 99%?! How are you guys even breathing??!!

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

They have evolved gills.

[@firehunterz2311]

They don't. That's probably how.

[@troy9477]

Very nice. After that slight hiccup at 350, Henry pretty much cleaned it. Great skill. Abyone who says irons are not useful snd accurate clearly needs more practice......

[@chalkbos]

I love the M16A4 ❤️

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

I have so much to do today and nothing will distracted me....OOOOOH upload from 9-hole with an m16a4😁

[@muhammadkhusnulhadi334]

l have so much to do today and nothing