M3 Max MacBook Pro - my BIG mistake!

[@MarkEllisReviews]

If you're buying (or have bought) an M3 MacBook Pro... what was the main driver for getting it?

[@joseteixeira5900]

For the base, just for bigger display, pro motion and speakers and when M3 is more than enough for the tasks. I have a tendency to choose large ram, great ssd and not so powerfull cpu, gets enough room to cool and the entirem system runs with less stress. Buying a M3 Max only for a specific app which depends on time and money, otherwise, ram and storage is more important.

[@SoftwareManiacLSM]

I got the 16 inch M3, bigly loaded. Very happy. It surpasses the performance of my loaded M1 Ultra Studio. Hard to believe. This will be my last MacBook for sure. For just a handful of dollars, the possible CPU/GPU "conditioning" in the 14-inch configuration just wasn't worth the savings in travel (my travel is to coffee shops, not on a plane). You are a wonderful presenter, Mark. Thanks.

[@Levi3D]

Thinking of it for 3D rendering in Blender (M3 has some big advances in hardware/coding for rendering), also heavy AI based effects, like the ones in DaVinci Resolve Studio - I understand these are the kind of tasks where the M3 chip will give a substantial performance improvement. If it's basic video editing/photo editing, it seems the performance is pretty on par with the M2 or even M1 for many tasks. But will probably just hold out for the M3 studio and stick with my M1...

[@gtb81.]

bacically, just because I had a mid 2015 mbp, so i got a 16" Max, it's crazy how much of an upgrade it is

[@SoftwareManiacLSM]

@@gtb81. I know!!! Way to go.

[@blipmachine]

Not gonna lie, those 2 seconds of time saved is pure gold. I'll finally get time to exercise daily and lead a healthy lifestyle.

[@ohokcool]

@@Wanted797 Wow you’re right, life changer

[@LuneUnion]

If you've got an M1 AND your main job is 4K video editing, you won't see much of a bump because the heavy lifting is being done by the media engine which hasn't changed much. For a lot of other tasks, one might see a significant performance bump. Just depends on what you're doing.

[@SR-0211]

I’ve got to say, all you, KZbinrs always make mistakes and always make reviews starting with how great a thing is or was and then come back and say you made a mistake. When are you going to stop making mistakes or is this just another Clickbait? Yes it is.

[@MarkEllisReviews]

You’re actually spot on - I genuinely do make mistakes for a living and then talk about it. It’s better than my previous job, at least. Thanks for watching and engaging 👍

[@Worthfishing]

Well, he has to have something to talk about. Gotta keep making these videos so he can get paid.😂

[@MarkEllisReviews]

@@Worthfishing I do enjoy eating and wearing underpants, yes.

[@questionyourbeliefs]

The video was still entertaining AF so why you gotta hate? Keep it coming dude!

[@Nookie94]

Its because the return window expires :)

[@jerryubah7327]

So I bought the M3 Max with the 16/40 64GB coming from Intel. My honest take is unless you're coming from an Intel don't upgrade thinking it's another investment. If you have an M1 Max you're absolutely fine the performance is still up there from what I have seen. Yes all the benchmarks for all new devices will always be higher but real world usage for your renders will not see a mind-blowing difference unlike me coming from Intel. M2 Max users shouldn't even think of upgrading at all. and above all DON'T go into debt because you must buy every new device Apple releases lol

[@bakokat6982]

Oh but it’s so easy to do, Apple puts out the siren call and we Apple sheep come running for the new “ next “ thing. 😹

[@jarrodbarker]

Since the Mark Ellis is too much of a dick to answer my question and instead just laughed/mocked me, if you’ve run denoise do you still have smooth playback in 4K (no proxies) or just it start to stutter? With my M1 Max (10 CPU, 32 GPU, 32GB) I had to drop as low as 720p in the timeline proxies for smooth playback. Have you tried anything like speed warp or super scale? How about optical flow for frame rate adjustments. I have an M3 Max 16/40, 48GB arriving in February and can do the tests myself, but was just curious if you’ve tried any of this or any other hardcore rendering/effect processes?

[@jerryubah7327]

@@jarrodbarker Haha wow. I don't do video editing per se. More animations in Adobe After Effects but I know editing on the M3 Max is an easy breeze especially since you got one with a lil more RAM you'll definitely notice some improvements. The power of the M3 Max is really seen in more demanding projects.

[@jarrodbarker]

@@jerryubah7327 awesome, thank you for taking the time to give me a real answer and I wish all the best with your projects!

[@wordswondrouswords6120]

Coming from a 2015 15 inch MacBook Pro that’s lasted me 8 years, any chances that a 16 inch MacBook Pro with 64gb of unified memory will last me another 8 years?

[@starsk13]

I am still using a 2015 Mbp and 2010 MacPro Daily :) Good enought for me. Will wait the M3 on the refurb

[@nzrylmz]

Does 14" M3 Max thermal throttling? And how is the fan noise?

[@Labs51Research]

You forgot to mention that you only get approximately 6 years from any mac before Apple stops allowing you to update to the new OS.. this has became a deal breaker for many people, especially when you’re forking out anywhere from 3 - 7 grand for a machine .. they could at least let the user upgrade for 10 years not unreasonable especially when you can use open core to run the latest and greatest macos on machine from 2012 without any performance issues.

[@robinhosleftfoot]

How many years security updates available after os update stop?

[@Labs51Research]

@@robinhosleftfoot until the decide .. could be a few months could be a few years .. bigger problem is that new software stops being able to be installed on newer os’s at an ever alarming rate.. just another method of pushing you out of the picture and forcing you to update.. Been a mac user for decades have 12 macs at home and over 200 in work but this has forced us to reconsider our position with apple..

[@robinhosleftfoot]

@@Labs51Research from experience how many years security updates have they provided?

[@the_flushjackson]

I understand what you're saying, yet at the same time the monetary return on actually requiring a 3 - 7 grand machine should be easily exceeded within 6 years. I'm coming from an 11 year old laptop as a daily driver, and honestly the lack of available battery replacements and zero reliable external display capability is forcing my hand more than anything. In terms of return on investment, I've robbed Apple blind on this $3k laptop as well as on my iPad Pro 12.9" from 2017 that is still performant. I'm not saying you're wrong, just offering up another thought on it.

[@robertotomas]

re 8:17 Max tech has a comparison of 16 vs 14 inch m3 max, and Ive seen one other. My understanding is that the 14 inch does throttle more, especially for gpu workloads, but the most extreme throttling is on the order of 10% slower for cpu only and 20-30% for gpu. More often you'll see numbers like 6% and 15% difference if it throttles; it's not much of a difference. The real difference is the fan noise and battery life. I got an m3 max 16 inch as a replacement to my mid-2018 15 inch MBP, which obviously was intel. I'm very, very pleased. The only thing I don't like, and maybe I'm the only one, is the loss of the TouchBar. I got used to it; it was nice. I'm amazed at the gaming it can do, and will probably find out how it fits my work flow soon, but its holiday season and, you know, first things first. :)

[@Sorrymaker97]

I'm worrying about the gaming performance of m3 max 14-inch in case of the thermal throttling…But the 16-inch version is quite too heavy😂

[@simonsutton-george]

If you have time, I’d be interested to hear your comments on editing video on a 14” screen as opposed to a 16”… is the screen large enough?

[@psysword]

for me it is

[@jethrojacinto2798]

Just got the base MBP14 M3 Pro as my first Apple Silicon computer and I honestly am already seeing much improvement from my 2015 MBP16 Intel one. It is quite the upgrade and much a needed one at that. The next MBP I'm probably going to get will hopefully be in like 10 years when I'll fully spec'd it out to last for the rest of my life.

[@wordswondrouswords6120]

I’m also hoping that my M3 Max MacBook will last me 10 years too!

[@perrybette]

Mark this was a terrific article. I just upgraded my intel iMac to the M3 and find it incredible. You helped me decide on ‘pulling the trigger’. Thank you for a quality channel. I’ll be watching.

[@MarkEllisReviews]

Thanks for the lovely words!

[@Youtuber-ku4nk]

For video coding/decoding, which you were doing, the M-processors all use the same coding/decoding part of the processor and not any of the CPUs or GPUs. The M Ultras, I think, have two of those media engines. For testing CPU and GPU you could have done some picture editing and exporting in ex. Photoshop Lightroom.

[@alimomen]

Could have, but didn't. Or at least the video could be that if you're a video editor then you don't need to do anything which is essentially what MKBHD said.

[@Youtuber-ku4nk]

@@alimomen I was just explaining why they got the same result when exporting video

[@Mandy7D7]

Are you still sticking with the 14 inch or will you be going up to the 16? I'm on a 15 inch Pro from 2016 and I'm upgrading now... but I'm stuck on the size. I'm seeing the 16 inch has a little better cooling I wouldn't mind going just a tad smaller to the 14. It's a dumb thing to be stuck on but I'm sure stuck.

[@MarkEllisReviews]

Sticking with the 14-inch.

[@AhmetKaya-jh7bu]

@@MarkEllisReviews how is the fan noise and thermal feeling?

[@dh1163]

The real question is, while you want the extra RAM, do you really need it? Were you editing hi-res (RAW 4K +) footage, on a dense timeline, with mo-graf layers and the machine just couldn't cut it? Or are you "future proofing?"

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

example last year i saw mext and z1r selling like 500$, thats cool, and you likely wont upgrade from there, cans wise

[@TheForeigner68]

I'm still using my 2015 intel MBP for everything, including video editing in Resolve. It's slow for video editing, even when using proxies and quarter timeline resolution. Having said that, I hesitate to get a new one (regardless of the chip, version etc). I can live with the slow video editing on an otherwise fast laptop.

[@aguschar1]

Same page here haha! Did you buy? what option did you choose? thanks

[@Jeramithehuman]

Watching on my 2012 MacBook Pro. These things last forever. So definitely worth the money imo

[@Sorrymaker97]

I'm worrying about the gaming performance of m3 max 14-inch in case of the thermal throttling…But the 16-inch version is quite too heavy😂. Can anyone give me some advice, plz.

[@nymphinthewind]

i hear the 14 overheats. i got 16 inch and no overheating wit gaming

[@bladerealm124]

How is the fan noise on the 14” 16-core?

[@BjoernNawrath]

half of the 2017 15" at "full load" I would say

[@joshc717]

I think it’s going to take some time to see the real performance benefits of the M3 series chips. I have a M1 Ultra Mac Studio and it took a good 6+ months for software to become fully optimized for it. Regarding export times, those are dependent on the encoder which are about the same in all of the 3 generations of Pro/Max chips.

[@PeresD]

Facts !

[@alimoff8760]

Do these still suffer the unpleasant imprint of the keyboard on the screen? It happens on my m2 air, and I’ve seen it happen with the MacBook pro too. Tolerances that low make it really easy to scratch or chip the screen with any trapped dirt (which has happened with mine).

[@mindplay_ttv5154]

I got the M3 pro - 18 gb ram - 512 - using a Lacie to save stuff in and I am extremely happy 😉

[@benlake4803]

I traded in a 16” M1 for the base model 14” M3 Max primarily to speed up working with RAW photos and transcoding video from x264 to x265. Results: Thrilled with the time savings. I do have external monitors for when I feel the need.

[@jarrodbarker]

The real question is does it play back 4K footage smoothly when denoise is being run, without proxies? How about optical flow? That is a real world test. Not an export time that no one cares about or can help us.

[@MarkEllisReviews]

‘Optical flow’ is a real world test?! 😂

[@GregDZ33]

I just ordered a 14 inch M3 Max. My current MacBook Pro is a 2013 model. For me, it’s definitely worth the upgrade. For people with an M1, it’s a bit of a waste of money.

[@gosman949]

BH Photo keeps putting the 16.2 Max 64gb 4TB SSD for US $2799. Should I buy it even if it is now 2 year old technology?

[@chrisatye]

YEAH, But the benchmarks aren’t accurate because you didn’t stand the M3 on a green table. Also, you need to check the ambient temperature, what the ceiling tiles are made from, and if the front door to the office is locked - all of these can affect the unified memory… ;-) …great video :-)

[@MarkEllisReviews]

I KNEW it! 😂😉

[@carlzheng2683]

the 16in will perform better then the 14in with the same stats. i recommend always getting the 16in even if its $300 ish more hands down. the 14in has tons of hot tottling and hinders its power. thus buying a 14in model will always be -20% slower

[@arlencarlson]

That’s the reason I went with the 16” on the M1Pro MBP. Sticking with that but now adding a 13” M2 Air for some portable needs.

[@pf4773]

Mark: I'm so impressed with this video---I'm a photographer wanting to start, as a hobby, shooting video documentaries. I want to use Final Cut P. I'm looking for.a computer that can handle it, but the prices for the m3 chip ones are astronomically high. Your video is the first I've found that actually shows, clearly, that the m1 max is absolutely fine, and that the difference in performance for FCP is negligible. Again, yours is the first that is actually showing real-world comparisons---I'm so grateful. I loved your comment about how the jump from intel to silicon M chips is the quantum leap whereas going from m1 to even m3 is just incremental. The computer I'm looking at is a macbook pro m1 max, 64gram with 4 tbs of ssd.

[@GarryMah85]

I think its a good thing we dont see crazy jump in performance between each new Apple SoC, as it allows these super expensive Mac to last several years without feeling very outdated 😅

[@aimee.nazova]

So, you did not upgrade the unified memory? You kept it at 48GB? You simply upgraded the storage to add an additional terabyte?

[@JennaNeal]

Do you find the typing one size works easier than the other? I thought I wanted 14” and taking back my 16” and now I’m like wait what was I thinking

[@rudyelizondo1935]

I love the Touch Bar and keyboard on my MacBook Pro M1. It is the best computer I have ever owned!!

[@TurboPersonalTraining]

Great video! I'm currently using a 2020 M1 Air with 8GB of RAM as my main editing workstation, but as my skills and workload increase, it's starting to struggle, especially when editing 4K RAW footage from my Fujifilm XT4, color grading, and adding heavy effects. I also use Lightroom. I'm considering an upgrade and would love your suggestion. Should I opt for the latest M3 Max for future-proofing, or would a second-hand model suffice?

[@TurboPersonalTraining]

I went with the m3 max but returned it. I just ended up getting a decked out PC instead that i can game on too. 14k series w the 4090 rtx @@Wanted797

[@the_flushjackson]

I'm about to come from a 2013 MBP 15" that was fully decked out. I'm thinking of just going with a low-to-mid M3 Max, and I think you're right I'll probably make this last awhile -- probably not 11 years to be fair, but if I can stretch 3 - 4 years out of it it's a no-brainer.

[@razvanstanciu637]

It is not clear for me which macbook you tested. Because at the minute 08:00 you posted on the right a configuration that does not exist and has never been for sale... "14-inch M3 Max MacBook Pro" it does not have an M3 MAX processor. And if the tested laptop is really M3 MAX, then at 14" you have maximum of 14-core CPU with 30-core GPU and 36GB Unified Memory...😟

[@MarkEllisReviews]

Eh? The 14-inch M3 Max MacBook Pro absolutely exists, mate! It’s the one in this video and I have a 64GB version in my backpack right now.

[@zzzaaalll]

​@@MarkEllisReviews can you confirm if lot of chrome usage is handled well in mac ? cause windows laptops are bad at it and chrome keeps hanging .

[@razvanstanciu637]

​@@MarkEllisReviews This 14" model M3 MAx with 40 cores GPU does not exist... at 14" you have only one of 30 cores GPU. Which M3 MAX have you tested? 16" or 14"?

[@MarkEllisReviews]

@@razvanstanciu637 mate. Go to the Apple Store. Configure a 14-inch M3 Max as far as you can. You’ll get one with a 40-core GPU, which is the one I’ve got. Unless we’re living in some alternate universe, it 100% exists.

[@mikivli]

How well does M1 Pro and M1 Max stack up against this new m3 line for video editing, vfx, maybe blender too?

[@ShadowRap-y5l]

Do you think the base model M3 pro specs 11 core cpu is good enough for normal usage and video editing?

[@Bamsambam33]

Is an M3 MacBook Pro 14” 18gb with 512gb good for editing 4k video and photoshop? Thinking of getting this and buying an external 2tb sad drive but I’m worried the ram isn’t enough

[@nowandrew4442]

An ipad with Apple Silicon can edit 4K video, just not as fast as the Maxes. It will work just fine. If time is not your highest-value resource then you are better off not paying Apple Taxes and just live with the 18Gb. I would go for a 1Tb SSD though, the 512 is *really* bargain-basement and I believe single-channel while the 1Tb is dual-channel, so, twice the throughput.

[@cheahkaimun1]

My current M2 MacBook Air is still working brilliantly even after 16 months……. Love it ……..

[@_error__0752]

I'm going to get a new laptop pretty soon but I don't know what to get. I've always wanted to have a MacBook and since I'm older now, what the MacBook has to offer is perfect for me. I'm not looking for a gaming laptop as I still have a gaming PC at home but I need something that's based on documents, editing, 3D, ppt’s, and also here-and-now gaming. Now I don't know if a MacBook or other laptops are for me. Do you have any suggestions?

[@cooldudex14]

Your approach was very informative. I'm a Audio Engineer, And i'm upgrading from a 15' Macbook Pro Retina 2011. I have not experienced the silicon chips yet. And i was torn between purchasing the M1. But after careful consideration, i have noticed that for the amount that i would be paying for a 64GB Unified memory/1TB mac, i'm better off going with the M3 MAX. Now if only apple would have refurbished model of the silver color that would be great. Thank you so much for your contribution!!!

[@michael5432]

When I sit my M2 MacBook Pro next to my old 2015 15" MacBook Pro.....the older MacBook Pro is still just so much better looking. I miss Steve Jobs. Sad they moved away with his more modern less generic designs including the light up Apple we all knew and love! Specs wise new one is way better obviously.

[@ashtheproducer]

I have M1 MacBook Air do you prefer me to upgrade?

[@schumcreative]

Awesome video. Will you now make a Time Machine backup, wipe the M3 Max you got, and then install the Time Machine backup on the new 14” with 64Gb?

[@letter4321]

My experience: My 14" McBook Pro M3 Max is a regress compared with my McBook Pro M1, primarily because the framework components are cheap and lousy in my user experience. Did I received an outlier laptop in Mac production?

[@hossamta2deer925]

I have the 16 inc m3 max 48 ram 1tb I cracked it from battery to fan control to gaming lol it honestly a beast

[@NilMykhils]

Is this M3 Pro a good choice for DJing apps? Like Serato, Recordbox?

[@ErickeverRB]

8gb RAM is tough. Need 16GB or higher

[@floridahummer]

no one needs a screamin V10 Lambo, who would love one? everyone.

[@bneil4059]

What size SSD did you go with?

[@michaelmills2263]

Thank you , very beneficial video. Looking to upgrade my Mac Book Pro with Intel Chip. Was looking at M3 but after seeing your comparison between M1 to M3 and the minimal time saving you have likely just saved me a few thousand $s. Not sure if M1 and M2 are readily available ( sorry if this is dumb question ) but in early stages of upgrade.

[@davidraymond8994]

Well, it depends for what I do I use up all the cores on an M1/M2 no problem in fact my Intel 13th gen laptop pretty handily beats the M1/M2 when running lots of Docker containers. I tend to need 12-15 containers at one time. I want to go back to Apple Mac with the M3 Max to see if that will be enough for me. I believe they finally go to the performance to actually replace a current gen Intel Desktop/Workstation.

[@gr4zuoliuk4s]

Hey, please test the battery… how does it hold up in your daily tasks and web browsing?

[@MarkEllisReviews]

I’ll be reporting back on this in a longer term review 👍

[@mungo75]

Admittedly I bought the M2 pro months ago, but glad I went for the 14” over the 16” 👍

[@chevrex]

I’ve not scrolled through the comments yet but… I’m here because KZbin is feeding me MacBook M3 reviews because I am currently looking to move from my 2019 16” Intel MacBook Pro to the new chip. I do travel with my current 16” across the Atlantic from time to time, but more often on short trips for a few days. It is heavy. Takes my back and me back to the year 2000. And the M series 16” models are slightly larger. It seems as if the issue of thermal performance and fan noise might be keeping me from the 14”. Screen real estate is an issue also but I think I can get by with the 14” as much of the time I connect to an external display. The fans spin up often enough on my Intel machine. With my workload unchanging, should I expect the same from the 14”? Or is it so superior to the Intel chip that I shouldn’t ever encounter the heavy (heat) load that I am experiencing now. I ask that based on an understanding that the 16” will have better thermal performance than the 14” due to its scale.

[@chevrex]

Oh and I want add… I enjoyed your review without the usual benchmarks, focused instead on real world comparisons with which you have experienced.

[@zenscape]

Hi Mark, I had the same mistake like you. I received my M3 Max 16/40 48GB 2TB, used it to watch your video and it then dawn on me I should have spent a bit more to get the 64GB with 25% more RAM for completeness. I just ordered the same specs with 64GB and will return my 48GB. We have the same first world problem. Sub-ed.

[@octny]

there's always a mistake since Apple makes incremental upgrades ro keep you throwing money. my mistake was to get the base version of m3 14 inch mbp with only 8gb ram believing all the false statements that it's enough. so i am returning it to get the m3 max 14/30 gpu and 36gb ram which for me is overkill anyway but still future proof. my windows machine has 128gb ram, ryzen 9 5950x 16 core cpu and nvidia 3090ti gpu with 24gb ram. i think that's still faster for less money.

[@zenscape]

@@octny Good for you to be able to return and order for the specs you want. Now you have peace of mind knowing that your new MBP M3 Max can do anything you throw at them efficiently for many years to come. 8GB of ram may not be enough in 2023. My 16GB MPA takes a long time to complete Lightroom AI noise reduction and PS generative fill. Yes, the statement circulating around that a unified 8GB ram is on par with 16 GB ram is a misrepresentation. Less is not more.

[@jont4504]

still running a 2013 mbp. should i wait for an m4?

[@nymphinthewind]

i would get m3

[@oldtreefarm]

Pretty thrilled with my base model M3 Max 14" and It only has 36GB RAM. But I do wish I would have gotten more... just like you are doing...Not that I am "needing it". I came from a 15" 2018 I7 MBPro with 16GB RAM and I still use a 16GB M1 Mac mini which works great.

[@octny]

what would you choose between the 14 inch macbook pro, pro version with 36gb ram and 2tb ssd or the max version 14/30 with 36gb ram and 1tb ssd? the memory bandwith is double from the pro to the max 14/30 from 150gb/s to 300gb/s I believe?

[@lorimiller2789]

I bought the 16 inch Mac Pro as I am retiring and it will probably be my. very last computer, and I have a husband who can carry it when traveling, lol. I have everything connected to monitor .

[@theclown888]

Still loving my touch bar, RIP :( Great video!

[@mikeroneniner]

Thanks mark , this is solid , reliable , relatable content for the vast majority of MBP users or prospective buyers. FTR , I'm buying a MBP M3 to replace my Max 27" iMac intel . to use portably and as a desk station with 2 monitors . I will probably keep the same laptop for 5 years , same as I have with the iMac its replacing . . I don't code, build websites, Render 3d images etc . you speak to and represent a lot of us out here and your work and content is appreciated .

[@MarkEllisReviews]

And this comment is massively appreciated - thank you.

[@adampearson6992]

I was hopingbyou'd compare the 16" and 14" in terms of screen size, weight, form factor etc. Is the weight-saving and convenience worth the loss of screen real estate for you?

[@ADPeguero]

I invested on the 14", 16 Core CPU and 40 Core GPU, M3 Max with 64GB RAM and 4TB Storage for $4,409.00. I saved $490.00 using a Military Discount and saved 6.25% sales tax by picking it up in New Hampshire. Will I ever use all of that power? I don't know. Maybe not. I figure I won't need to think about replacing this for at least the next 5 years. I had made a mistake of getting the 14" 10/16 core, M1 Pro with 16GB RAM and 1TB Storage. Was it fast and good? Yes. But it's also losing value and I don't see myself being happy with it in 3 to 5 years from now so I decided to sell it now while it still has some sort of decent value. Besides, I had gotten that one with the same Military discount and had paid no sale tax 2 years ago.

[@timothyvanvliet7802]

Sounds great. I'm thinking about making that exact investment. May I ask if u hear the fan at all? And if so, what causes it? Thanks a lot

[@ADPeguero]

@@timothyvanvliet7802 The fan came on when I tried playing Diablo IV which is graphically intensive. It's also not a native Mac game, it's windows. So many factors related here that would stress this M3 Max. Otherwise, I never hear the fan. The sound though is kind of annoying.

[@timothyvanvliet7802]

@@ADPeguero Allright, very good to know. Thanks for the response. Yeah, I've heard that it can be annoying to some. But if it doesn't happen often, I'd be totally ok with it.

[@jimtipton8888]

Thanks for taking one for the team Mark! Think I'm sticking with my M1 Max since I need my remaining kidney. Just added the M2 Air 13" in the 512/8 configuration as my daily carry office slave device and man is that thing a great machine.❤ I'm betting against the 64GB MBP M3 Max being that much faster than the 48GB version. Looking forward to that video. Cheers!

[@MarkEllisReviews]

Haha - happy to be of service!

[@rudyelizondo1935]

@@MarkEllisReviews ease upgrade to M3, it’ll be great for my Apple stock price!

[@mahesh.chetri]

Can you compare with Windows Laptop for video editing. Thanks

[@aronmarden]

You SOB, you worried me for a second. I have my 14" MBP M3 MAX with 64GB of RAM coming (I've always been a 16" MBP kinda guy) and the YT algo presented me your video. I'm happy to see I got the model you wish you had ordered original 🙏🏼 thanks for staving of buyers remorse for a bit longer lol.

[@Beatty003]

I’m still using the original 2012 MacBook Pro with Retina display. It still works great, but requires to always be plugged in, not run any programs, be at a certain altitude between the hours of 2:00 - 3:00 AM, and a weekly exorcism from the local priest. Do you think it’s time to upgrade?…Uh-oh, Beelzebub’s back. Gotta dash!

[@Hof79905]

What is a render?

[@dopagony9946]

what do you need 64 (let alone 48) GB of RAM? what would warrant more than 18 or 36GB RAM? not criticizing, actually curious.

[@pweekes123]

I am so tired of people knocking the touch bar. It was brilliant, I use it all the time an I miss it so much on the new Macs.

[@MarkEllisReviews]

That’s genuinely awesome. But it _is_ dead.

[@transitengineer]

Yes, I love the touch bar and might buy off of Apple's refurbished web site a 13-inch M-2 Macbook Pro model (smile...smile).

[@chennyye28]

if the touchbar won’t replace function keys, I would like to try them. They can be used for moving video timeline or for the frequently used hot keys .

[@KLM_ZA]

I am a video specialist at a big moto corporation. I still have an intel Macbook pro 2017. Its a nightmare to edit. I have been presenting for 2 years to upgrade to the new M chip. Editing on the old intel is killing my soul! Hopefully this year I can get a M3 Pro Max P.S working at a corporate takes every energy to get things across the line....Like why a video specialist needs a decent laptop to edit on..

[@marksangria]

new subscriber from 🇺🇸. great content! I find you engaging and awesomely detail oriented

[@MarkEllisReviews]

Thanks, Mark! Welcome onboard 👍

[@AMALHI15]

Wavering between the 14 inch m3 pro macbook pro (12 core CPU and 18 core GPU) with 36gb of ram and the base m3 max 14 inch. Its $300 more so Im like i might as well (that's how apple gets you haha). Im currently on a 2018 15inch mabok pro so either will be a big upgrade. My highest use case will be editng 4:2:2 10bit footage in resolve and premiere. Would love to hear your feedback!!!

[@ronmac1832]

I'm still kicking myself for "upgrading" my M1 Air for an M2 Pro. Sure it does some things faster, but it is heavy and I can't tell that the screen is better unless I put the 2 next to each other. If I had to sell 1 tomorrow, it would be the M2 Pro. As a matter of fact, I'm typing this on my iMac with an i5 that crunches through all duties admirably!

[@rickyip7308]

your test is very interesting and practical for real life.

[@riasure]

Always on the lookout for your videos Mark….they are always spot on👍🏾 I am still on the 2015 MacBook Pro retina 😱 and am trying to decide on the correct specs for the M3 for Music Production. The spec of the machine you have on order is what I think I will go for, but in 16” format. It’s just such such a lot of money, so I want buy right. Would be great to see you putting it through its paces on Logic Pro once it arrives!

[@MarkEllisReviews]

Thank you - what a lovely comment. And I promise I will!

[@xyrendor]

No way! I’m in the exact same place! From 2015 13” trying to decide what config to get of M3 for music production . I’m thinking 14” though.

[@riasure]

@@xyrendor oh wow,! Well I think for us both our machines have served us well, but an upgrade is probably now overdue😄. I did think 14” to save cash, but I think I will miss larger screen-especially for those extended mix sessions, or when working at night. I think my eyes will thank me for it!!

[@DelluciPhoto]

I wish they improve the ergonomics. The edges are still very sharp, and I get scratches under my palm.

[@Fr8hustler]

So I guess upgrading for ME would be excellent. The last MacBook Pro I bought was in 2009 and it was about $2200. I can’t even use it now, so I’m shopping for another and I don’t render videos ( yet ) I just wanted an updated version. Thanks for sharing your feedback…I’m pulling the trigger today for black Friday

[@stephenvalente3296]

Lots of buyers regret videos around now. Seems the M3 range has some compromises in terms of memory bandwidth in the Pro chip models, and the odd memory configurations. And that's before the eye watering prices are thought about too!

[@mrslkungpowchikn1206]

I’m going through similar thing - bought highest 16” store had but it only has 48 GB Unified memory (upgrade for 100 more??🤪) AND it’s only 1T hard drive!! That’s the part that’s bothering me the most. I wanted to buy a bigger one but it said online it would take 3 weeks! I’m 1.5 weeks post ACL surgery and want to edit video now dang it! 😂 Why must the store refuse to carry anything higher than 1T???

[@baakya27]

4:2:2 Support is the huge Plus for M series chips

[@flappospammo]

I bought the 16 m3 max 16/40/16 48/1tb and i just do basic office stuff , overkill to the extreme .. :)

[@godsinbox]

To be fair, the M1 with 8gb of ram gave it a bad reputation, and apple traded on that with M2&3 sales.

[@pepehotovson1550]

How many cores were actually used? i.e. "What struck me during this experiment was that even though I had ten CPU cores available, no program took full advantage of them. In fact, the two efficiency cores were the most widely used." (from "How Many CPU Cores Does It Take to Export Video From Final Cut Pro, Premiere Pro or DaVinci Resolve?")

[@anas8183]

Great sound quality ❤

[@alpho2010]

In November 0f 2023 I purchased a MacBook Pro i6 inch base model with 18MB of unified memory. I had a brain fart and didn’t upgrade the RAM to 36GB because it was an extra $500.00 Canadian dollars, that was a big mistake. A couple of months ago I purchased a new Sony Alpha IV that produces 32MB RAW files and the MacBook was having issues stacking more than 8 photos and after twenty minutes I might get a stacked photo in Photoshop or a crash. Two weeks ago, I purchased a Sony A7R V 61MB camera and the MacBook crashed when stacking 6 full size RAW photos. The MacBook can stack 8 JPEG files and that is it. So, I ordered the new MacBook Pro Max with 64 GB RAM. I hope that it will be able to do much better than the MacBook its replacing. I am now doing a lot of macro photography thus all the photo stacking. The Sony A7R V produces awesome photos in RAW at 61MB.

[@felixpetittjr.6472]

Hah! I’m like that! I have an iMac Intel 2017 system and it is so nice. I use it for writing and designing. I have an M3 Max specked out plus a new monitor on there way and had to go full crazy on the order. Oh… there is regret, but the iMac is sluggish on my blender builds. I usually have too many things going at one time. Hopefully this new setup helps.

[@AngeAlexiel]

of course there is no differences for video encofing or decoding .. they have the same Hardware video encores and decoders, but the M3 max has a new AV1 decoder.. but the difference is quite big in term of GPU performance for 3D and even CPU performance, these M3 max are more often near the performance of the M2 ultra Mac Studio or Mac Pro ... but for video encoding , a base M series chip is okay ....

[@adama3231]

Export tended to be roughly double render times. I wonder if that would have been similar for your iMac tests if they had more ram?

[@jejakmaknawi]

I'm still using the iMac 5K 2017 Intel and yeah export videos enough to take a nap. I'll definitely upgrade to M3, glad I'm skipping M1 and M2.

[@TheProductCritiques]

[11:57] Hey there! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the M3 Max 14in MacBook Pro. It's always interesting to hear about people's experiences with new tech. 😊 I totally get your point about the color choice and smudges - it's something to consider for sure. The specs on your machine sound pretty impressive, and it's great to hear that the performance is top-notch. As for the comparison between the M1 and M3 Max, those few seconds might not make a huge difference in real-world use, but it's always fun to see how these machines stack up against each other. And regarding who this MacBook Pro is for, your insights are quite helpful. It's good to know that if someone has an older Intel Mac, this could be a significant upgrade. But if you already have an M1 MacBook Pro, it might not be a must-have unless you're experiencing performance issues. Lastly, I'm curious to know more about why you felt you didn't spec up your M3 Max enough and why you decided to return it for the 64 GB version. Looking forward to your future videos! 👍

[@ChandraChandra-wx9em]

straight question - doesnt the 16 core CPU, 40 core GPU and 48gb unified memory on the 14 incher the same as the 16 core CPU, 40 core GPU and 48gb unified memory on the 16 incher?? If yes, you shouldn't be bothered. If NOT, there is some serious problem somewhere

[@the_flushjackson]

That's correct -- the display size is just straight cost. Zero real world meaningful difference within the same spec SKU.

[@nayibgonzalez3250]

Great video, straight to the point. I get triggered easily by some other youtubers upgrading from M1 Max to M3 Max saying that “it was time for an upgrade”. People seem to forget that to this day, a regular M1 machine can offer more than decent performance. These chip upgrades are now catering more and more to a smaller group of professionals that will actually take advantage of the performance.

[@MarkEllisReviews]

Glad you enjoyed it 👌

[@Micah-Woods]

I’m definitely looking to finally introduce myself to a MacBook Pro! It would be between a M1 Max, M2 Max or M3 Pro. I do 4K editing as well. Don’t know when I’m getting one though 😂

[@alimomen]

It's because the media engines are the same so for what you're testing it's going to be the roughly equal through the generations on the Max. So for a video editor? 100% no difference. But if you're a programmer, photo editor, or doing so many other pro tasks this will make a big difference.

[@scottmcdonald3345]

I got the 64 GB version with 16 core CPU and 40 core GPU. You will love it. Enjoy.

[@1BSDjunkie]

Thank you for the wonderful real world review videos Mark! I did need to upgrade from my aging late 2013 iMac to the M1 Mac Studio with 32G memory. 32 seems to be the sweet spot for me as it rarely swaps to disk. Still loving it with the Studio Display. I may at some point upgrade in the future, but hoping this one will last me for years to come. Cheers! 🙌🏼

[@MarkEllisReviews]

Thanks for the lovely words!

[@bakokat6982]

Oh it’s nice to see someone else was still using the 2013 iMac, mine is still in daily use, it has been a reliable machine. I just recently upgraded to Macbook M3 Pro, And just for easy to travel, a new MacBook Air. I’m set for the rest of my days. By The Way, Not in use but still fire up and work with the last upgrade are my 2012 MacBook and 2O13 MacBook Air. Apple doesn’t make junk. Don’t get me started on iPods… I like to dabble, with music.

[@salparadise1220]

Bought myself the black 2nd tier Pro upgraded to 1TB ssd. To replace everything else. No regrets other than for the £2500 hole in my bank account. Now to sell other two MBPros and Air to cover the cost before I decide to keep them as well.

[@michaelwhitt4068]

Woo hoo! You just answered a big question for me. I have a 2017 iMac and an even older MacBook Pro.... so YES a new MacBook Pro IS worth it. I might just look for a refurbed M1, though. Thanks for this video.

[@notabeneenterprises4210]

Mark- I’m a bit confused. The main message “I made a mistake - should have got 64GB instead of 48GB” seems clear but entirely unsubstantiated. After your benchmarking showed near-equivalence with the M1 16”, what reason do you have for thinking 50% more RAM was a colossal mistake?

[@MarkEllisReviews]

You’re right - it’s totally unsubstantiated. As noted at the end, I might as well just spend another £200 and grab the 64GB model. No rhyme or reason.