MAC vs PC 2024: Why I Switched to Apple!

[@jotamarsmusic]

You can CUT on a Mac. Copy the file (command+c) then paste it using option+command+v and it will delete the file on its original location.

[@GrumpyGr3g]

Thanks! Did not even knew that :D

[@ilikeflxwers]

Was about to say that! I think this is way more intelligent than using CTRL+X bc you can decide what you want to do with the file when you are at the destination directory and not have to decide before copying / cutting

[@oldtimer666]

What i do is just hold alt and drag the file to wherever i want it to be . Much faster and efficient

[@meldmagic]

🤓 Can also option + right click to show the "move" command in the context menu. I also discovered that recently despite having used Macs & Windows for decades.

[@ifiwantyoutofeel]

I never knew that

[@GunterLindmeier]

Most important: 1. In System Preferences under Software Update uncheck "automatic Updates". 2. Never go for the latest updates (major updates). Hold back until the 3rd part devs give green light for their plugins to work correctly with the latest macOS. Have fun!🙂

[@musicman8942]

Along with that - I don't know if things have changed - but when updating get the combo updater instead of doing piece-meal updates. Remember the old saying - those who live on the bleeding edge are doomed to get cut by it.

[@markevansdj]

I second this 🙏🏼

[@fuTuRo-Sonic]

Yes, That's good advice. I always wait for about 6 months to update system OS to allow for that. Been on Mac since the early 90's and have I have lost almost no working time to computer error.Also never had an internal HD fail or any hardware fault...so far.

[@IcemanTheDj]

I update to last macOS before the release of the new one! 🤭 Just updated to Sonoma. Usually in Jun-Jul I update!

[@musicman8942]

@@fuTuRo-Sonic The only time I lost work time was due to an Apple security update that bricked my machine.

[@djdanger9812]

I had a 2014 Mac Pro desktop (trashcan). In 2019 it crapped out so I took it to the Apple store to be fixed. They tried a number of replacement parts and fixes over several visits (the first visit costing me $750aus in parts) but the problem was never resolved. The Trashcan was 4 years out of warranty but Apple kept trying to fix it for no cost after failing the first time which was great but in the end, they finally gave up on it ever working... and then they did something remarkable. They replaced my dead out of warranty 5yr old trashcan with the latest iteration of the Mac Pro series, the updated 2019 model. The 2019 Mac Pro is worth almost 3 times the price of what the Trashcan cost me here in Aus. Apple had a courier drop off my new Mac Pro to my door a few days later and its been killing it ever since. Apple user for life here.

[@natdenchfield8061]

This is a good point for choosing Apple. What it also does is switch people around from telling the world that their Mac had major issues and instead praise Apple for customer service! Haha. All the problems with thoae 6 years of trashcan Macs are all forgotten! Crazy how reputation is created...

[@bigboss-qv7pe]

You're an exception.

[@local9]

One good story, I've heard more horror stories... also if its going to cost me the price of a new machine in parts... I'll buy a new machine.

[@djdanger9812]

@@local9 Horror stories? Elaborate..

[@sideast]

Storage is a huge issue with Macs today .

[@SoMyungJung]

Finally! Congrats for the transition

[@BlackenedNL]

Did you know the Ultra models have two Thunderbolt 4 ports on the front of the Mac Studio as well? So you also have 6 TB4 ports :) and a copper heatsink instead of a aluminum one!

[@australiahoover3443]

I switched from pc to mac about 10 years ago. Nothing wrong with either. For music production it made more sense for me.

[@duncan.o-vic]

Apple was not immune to similar fuckups with their macbook pros a few years ago. New processors saved their ass.

[@mixbustv]

Yep

[@harrykatsaros]

Don’t know that it’s fair to say the new processors saved their asses when they spent over a decade developing those chips from scratch specifically to one day replace Intel in their machines. They saw what the future held and took it upon themselves to start preparing and planning for it. They didn’t go from a company with zero experience in chip manufacturing to being a market leader by pure luck.

[@duncan.o-vic]

@@harrykatsarosyou're right, they were trying to milk the old cow until it died, and then saved their asses by deciding to finally sell some inovation they've bin hiding in order to make more profit....

[@projekct_amk]

i9 16" MBP never had an issue... well other than the fan which is sorted but using a cooling slab and of course they realsed the M series CPU about 3 months after I took delivery 🤦.

[@Jackyskan]

Apple developped its own Mx chip because it knew that x86 chips (intel) made its device run as cr_p. In 2021, Apple decide to let this x86 chip archictecture chip to all retard_d companies which are not interested in efficiency and productivity.

[@Sance21]

I also made the switch, recently. I was 24 years in windows audio and got a Mac system in April. The hassle of the drivers is a lot more minimized. I’m not quite as fast as I am in Windows yet, but I’m not running blind either. It feels more “stable”. You can work a bit more confidently with lower chances of a crash. Also, now I have the option of finally getting the McDsp APB.

[@therockhour1386]

My mac literally showed up via fed ex the VERY HOUR of the solar eclipse!

[@KernSound]

I'm switching also.

[@ignite137]

Welcome to the family! I made the switch back in 2011 when I was still a network engineer. I always had problems with my Windows machines. The learning curve for the switch was fast. The problem with the hot processing was due to the older processor architecture. Even Macs had that problem with Intel processors. But then came the M1, and that was a whole different ballgame. Based on ARM processor architecture, every part works with efficiency, so you get the full package, and it delivers. Funny thing, ARM is coming to PCs again! While ARM processors have been implemented in PCs before-like in Chromebooks and the Microsoft Surface Pro X-the M1 has shown just how powerful and efficient ARM-based computing can be.

[@LoveMeBack]

What I love about Mac is you turn it on and it……..works.

[@lemonaudio]

Why update the OS in studio enviroment? For better Wallpapers, A.I. Mail response, etc..? As you said, you use the studio computer only for ProTools.

[@sleepisoptional]

i just got a new m2 mac and the fan is dead quiet, LOVE IT. even the base mini is pretty snappy for small projects

[@mrpinguin9189]

M2 cpu only upgrades to m2 pro with 10 or 12 cores(cant remember) going from m2pro to ultra or max just upgrades the gpu. so if you just do music production getting pro is the best bang for buck, if you also do video or 3D rendering or other gpu power work than you could upgrade the gpu aswell (so use the m2 max or m2ultra)

[@PierluigiCarrozzi]

The only (but not the least, the first) thing to consider is the price (especially the big difference of upgraded ram and ssd). In Italy costs even more than United States due to added taxes.

[@sergeevspredator]

i hope this is a wake up call for intel and they finally start innovating like they used to from the days of the 2600k

[@TheChugMonkey]

I had a 2700k. That thing was a beast. It kept up with a demanding workload for 8 years. I finally replaced that machine in 2019 and made the switch to Mac. I'm happy with my choice.

[@sergeevspredator]

@@TheChugMonkey yup, that thing was unreal, and the overclocking on it was incredible

[@J-DUB-F1]

I'm a life long PC guy. I've got some music production friends work on Macs, so I have a little experience on them. At one of my audio jobs they got a new Mac M1. For such a tiny(form factor?) computer I'm really impressed with how fast it is. The Mac os just like iphones, could be considered smoother and more efficient with CPU usage. I've only seen one M2 Studio in person, and it's a true silent monster!! I don't own a studio or work at a purely professional level. So investing this much into a system isn't feasible. However!, I'm seriously bummed to hear the new intel CPUs and chipsets are causing problems. I'll be needing to build a new system at some point soon. I'm curious if there's a reason why AMD is not an option for PC audio production??. I know they're popular with gamers....I've never used them. Intel has some serious damage control to do, and some catching up with Mac!

[@DrumRoody]

I've been using an AMD ryzen platform for audio for years no problem.

[@msp420]

I use Ryzen and no issues except when Cubase did the switch to 12 but I just switched to bitwig and haven’t had issues at all with any projects and it maximizes my hyperthreading that the AMD chips do so well

[@AironExTv]

According to data from Dawbench tests, Intel systems at the very least used to be better for virtual instrument usage at low latencies. You might want to check with Scan co uk. They're one of a couple of audio pc providers. As for the recent Intel troubles, the Intel 14xxx series seems to have serious problems, but anything with Alder Lake cores appears to be ok. I use a Ryzen 5950X system, and I'll be checking out out how the 9950X does when it comes out soon. The M1 and M2 computers by Apple are brilliant, but a comparison always pays off. My system HAS to be able to play games, so my choice was simple until I had to do all the research :P .

[@Fuegoat]

Welcome my dear brother, I build PC’s and work as an audio engineer and the exact same thing happened to me 13 years ago…

[@reddbaron82]

Once you go Mac or iPhone, you don’t go back. Best decision I ever made

[@GenX_US_Marine]

Yup, I''ll gladly pay the higher price for an iPhone and Mac in return with no issues. It's the same reason why I only drive Toyota Camry's. Japanese cars are just better built and the quality is apples and oranges to American cars.

[@jeromejamies3641]

Never had any issue with Samsung. iPhones are said to be phones for spoiled girlies, I would feel embarrassed walkin around with an iPhone

[@GenX_US_Marine]

@@jeromejamies3641 Why? You can’t afford an iPhone. There’s 2 reasons why people bash iPhones. They can’t afford one or the can’t get the credit approval to finance one. There’s probably other reasons, but those are the 2 main reasons

[@jeromejamies3641]

@@GenX_US_Marine they are good for making of videos. No kidding, I am not a wmn and I don't need a Louis Vuitton bag as much as I don't need an iPhone just to make people show I can afford it

[@AdamGotheridge]

Good for you! I switched about 12 years ago or so and never looked back. I'm in the IT field and the revelation there was I working on an older Mac developing an application and it had 4gb ram and it worked, and it was old at the time, but it worked maybe better than the a same spec older pc with 8gb of ram. That thing I developed on that machine has generated at least $200M for my company (not me). I have many Macs now, and you'll find that firing up a new and doing is a dream. If you do the thunderbolt transfer to the new machine, all your stuff is there and installed and the only problem is getting the licenses authorized, and it takes maybe a couple hours top to bottom. Regarding the hard drive prices, those drives are blazing fast. Like you might be getting 7TB transfer speeds on that internal drive, and good luck buying that and having it work with external drives. It's a bit of the same experience with their displays, like boy are they expensive to what you think you are comparing them too, , but they are kick ass. Regardless, good for you, and I hope the machine blows you away trouble free for a long time (I'm sure it will).

[@RAYSHIO]

Bro. You need to configure the new PC in order to work perfectly for real time audio process. It took me weeks to find the right BIOS settings and custom undervolt/overclocking settings. Now my PC is dead silent, no cpu spikes, super stable and can handle 30% more of vsts.

[@mixbustv]

Did you miss the part in which I said I've been building and running PC in my studios for 20 years?

[@motaki79]

Yeap same here , did the same exact thing with my i7 14900 with my 96gb ram

[@aldo34]

Been a Mc user for years and years. Never had any real problem with OS upgrades, just make sure you subscribe to newsletters for your plugins and watch out for companies giving a heads-up when there might be an issue. No big deal.

[@BankHardBeats]

Recently switched myself, and you can Cut on Mac! Instead of Pasting with Cmd + V, push Option + Cmd + V

[@gabzerzerzer]

I learned something today, thank you !

[@ryanperrault8174]

Been Mac with music + Logic since 2007...It's super convenient for everything music related and makes getting ideas out of your head and recorded as fast and easy as possible. Also, everything just seems plug n play with Mac...at least within Logic...hardware or software...it just works.

[@Plastidon]

Switching to Mac years ago was the best thing ever - even a Pc that was spec’d out to be as stable for audio as possible still had all sorts of glitches etc , first Mac noticed all devices immediately and just ran , as others have said , wait or just don’t upgrade the OS untill all your gear is officially supported. It’s not like the next OS will have anything special for Audio .

[@Plastidon]

Also most important, thank you for years of valuable information 🤘🏼

[@bratvasea230]

at the radio studio where I have working for 20+ yrs, we were on Mac, from a 3.1 power PC, that was only the recording unit on the 8 logic, everything was analogue equipment, to the latest update a couple of years ago the M1 mac mini which for our radio projects is more than enough. now I have a studio full of equipment covered with dust because plugins are so powerful and so easy to use. but I remember my mate's studio problems with windows. he was always messing with the system going slower and slower with time, due to registry faults that are accumulating over time, also the second problem was the viruses, almost to panic. every client came with its own USB stick that he was running through a laptop with one antivirus, then to another PC with another antivirus before plugging it into his working machine. he was reinstalling the whole system several times a year because it was impossible to use until he got pissed, and got the Mac OS Leopard!!!!! installed on his PC, then sometime later bought his own first Mac. old times stories but stick to the topic...)))) congrats on the transition!!!

[@andivax]

Congrats on migrating on Mac, Dave! I rarely use my M1 Air 16 (I am 20+ years on Mac's). Unfortunatelly I can't play games and train AI on Mac. And that "old" firewire devices definetely will not work on M1/2/3 type processor. Also my M1 Air has no HDMI or DisplayPort so I use Type C HUB with HDMI to connect it to my monitors (and I can't connect it to my 3 monitors), interesting how Mac Studio behaves with 3 monitors. Also lack of ability to upgrade Mac is frustrating. So I am still on PC for 1-2 years but time will tell, may be I will switch to Apple.

[@roogrey]

Hi David, An interesting video. I'm very pleased that your switch to Mac has been so rewarding. I have been a Mac user for 30 years and have never looked back. The one thing I wanted to do was allay your fears about upgrades to OS. My current machine is a 2014 iMac, ten years old (so in tech terms, ANCIENT!) but, like yours, specced to the hilt. I have gone as far as I can with the OS for my processor and am currently running the equally aged Catalina - I can't go any further - but everything still works! It is only now that I am getting messages from one or two apps telling me I ought to upgrade my OS, but if I'm working in the box, there's no problem. The point is that your machine is an absolute beast, nicely future-proof, and your current OS will last you a very long time. I know each new OS comes with fancy features, but don't be intimidated; you won't NEED to change for years. Thanks for a great channel. All the best.

[@Adept216]

also if your doing brig transfers sometimes its faster to just clone the drive in disk utility vs coping from one drive to the other

[@bazebuster8330]

Definitely you're right with Mac Studio. For big(ger) projects a Mac Studio Ultra may be the best choice. But for most people a Mac Studio with a mMax processor will be great. It's incredible what even my Macbook Air with 24gb Ram can handle... My windows Main Studio PC is only here, because there was no good deal on Mac Studio that time - and I wanted to build (DiY) some things...and maybe upgrade the Ram/graphics for DeepLearning things...but the haters will always hate and I always try to show what are the best things in both worlds - for some musicians/creators maybe the freeware situation is still an advantage + upgrading paths...(what really isn't necessary when having the "right amount" of Mac Studio - its awesome what raw power and efficiency comes with Apple Silicon)

[@JalalYouCrazy]

Planning on switching too. I am dealing with the same USB issues as I have so many peripherals connected. Just waiting for the M4 Pro and M4 Max chips which are coming in the fall apparently.

[@GingerDrums]

Hey, the M1 benchmarks BETTER than the M2 or M3 on pro tools.

[@JalalYouCrazy]

@@GingerDrums Hey, I get that. For me. It’s more to do with future proofing and being eligible for software updates and support years down the line. Apple can be quite aggressive at times. For example, the 2017 macs no longer receive updates. Only 7 years old! The M1 machines are already almost 4 years old and the M2 Pro and Max systems are already at least 2 years old. The hope is they will support their silicon a lot longer than the intel stuff they did but you never know. I don’t want to be upgrading my Studio machine for at least 5-7 years after it was purchased.

[@GC-nd1lp]

​@@GingerDrums This is incorrect. You're probably talking about the video by James Zhan. His test methodology is super skewed toward showing that the M1 is better. The newer Pro Tools versions are able to utilize performance AND efficiency cores.The only issue comes with the M3, which has slightly less memory bandwidth (but still high enough not to make any practical difference with audio).

[@GingerDrums]

@@GC-nd1lp absolutely true! My bad and thanks for the updated info

[@GC-nd1lp]

@@GingerDrums That video frustrates me to no end, you're good lol. He compared the M1 with 8 performance cores vs M2 and M2 processors with fewer than 8 p cores, even though ones with 8 p cores exist! It's a valid concern for lots of other DAWs that don't utilize efficiency cores.

[@aipsong]

Great choice !!! I bought my first computer in 2000, a Mac titanium laptop, and then bought the first version of the ProTools MBox. In 2022, I bought the Mac Studio M1 Ultra, and now have the ProTools MBox Studio. I make a new video every week, composing, playing, recording, mixing, etc. The Mac never kicks its fans up to a higher speed and is silent as a sleeping mouse. I am sure you will enjoy your new Mac !! Thanks for your excellent videos and great advice !!! Que va piano va sano y lontano!!!

[@techtipsuk]

No comparison one is a proper computer running a stable OS the other is gaming toy that looks like a Christmas tree and sounds like a hovercraft

[@ML-mp4zg]

RISC vs CISC it's a no brainer for noise and power consumption.

[@marcell7406]

plan on switching soon also trev drop that magic app bro 😂😂😂

[@sebbityseb]

I empathise. I switched back in 2002 when OSX first came out. I took one look at it and decided instantly that it would be worth it. One week later, I knew more about the Unix architecture than I even did about Windows or DOS. Never looked back. Given the size of your studio, this seems to have gone pretty well : )

[@johto]

Yeah, the UNIX underpinnings really sold it for me back around that time too. OSX (MacOS) really do combine the quality desktop environment and under the hood unix geeky stuff. Its funny, that many Linux geeks dont even realise that MacOS is actually a certified UNIX:

[@snowandcoal]

13900KS has been steady so far on win 10. Going to use this as long as win 10 works.

[@SamHocking]

13900 is the mac destroyer when it comes to audio, good choice.

[@steveburns6912]

@@SamHocking maybe if using mac OS it would be... hackintosh rocks! ... but as long as windows is used, audio workflow is greatly impeaded and much of the same functions require far more lines of code and therefore much less efficient use of energy despite the speed on paper. Just look at the installer size of ProTools on mac and pc... very different! I've noticed the same trend, where the mac programs typically use less hard drive space for the same program, so we can assume there's less lines of code and/or less steps to perform the same tasks. Mac's operating systems just feel like they're better thought-though during the dev phase, and they also behave a lot more predictably. I love waking up with the same computer every day for years.... no need to "upgrade", and "auto update" turned off. It's simply bliss... (im running i7700k and mix huge sessions with zero threat to the CPU). So, in that my PC was built in 2016 and OSX breathed new life into it to the extent to where I have no need to mess with it... I'd say the operating system is quite a bit better-suited for audio stuff... I used to build new PCs like every two years! I don't think I ever built one that didn't ague with protools to some extent.

[@steveburns6912]

@@SamHocking i suspect, programs which are initially programmed using Unix will never function as well in C++

[@SamHocking]

@@steveburns6912 Maybe? Is Unix a common OS to develop C/C++ Audio applications to typically run on Windows and MacOS for audio though?

[@Jackyskan]

Why you don't buy a heating system instead? haha

[@w12337]

Glad I’m not alone in this! I too recently went full hog on a windows rig for music production in Cubase and I just kept getting issue after issue after cpu spike crackle etc etc. switched to m3 max MacBook Pro and the Mac COMPLETELY outclasses my brand new *theoretically* more powerful windows rig. Especially stability wise. I also had ridiculous usb issues like you which were instantly solved by Mac. Oh and also the complete silence of the Mac compared to idle fans on my windows rig still sounding like a small generator in the corner of the room.

[@markevansdj]

If apple priced their products competitively then there would be no Pc vs Mac fan boys. Used PC for 15 years before switching to mac for 13 years. Couldn’t imagine going back. Great video discussion/review. Welcome to the club mate.

[@hinesification]

When I ran an internet real estate consulting firm in the mid-1990's, I charged twice my standard fee if the client had a Windows machine. Seriously. I git complaints, but the number of hours of pain trying to get a client's machine to work drove me nuts. Most of my clients agreed in the end to pay the extra fee. I even would "charge" my dad extra for helping him with his Windows machine. When I finally convinced him to go with Apple, he was a totally happy camper, and almost never asked me to help him again with computer problems.

[@AudioJanitor]

I've built PC's since the late 90's and quit after ~2018 after buying a used 2013 MBP to try out ($600) Now I run like five M1/2's for video and music. Never building a computer again. No advantage anymore. Mac's are truly plug and play.

[@GrayGhostDog1]

I began a slow switch the beginning of this year... within a few weeks, my overbuilt PC got kicked out the room! My PC laptop was almost unusable when trying to work on a project. I'm standing by for the updated Mac Studio to release, but this M3 Max-equipped MBP is a beast!

[@LuiiMisfit]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard you swear before haha. You won’t regret the change 🙌

[@aleksamrkela831]

You haven't been on the channel long enough, then. 😂

[@LuiiMisfit]

@@aleksamrkela831 I hear him swear but it’s always censored from what I recall

[@ViceSquad]

I guess these days PC/Mac are very similar. A few years ago Mac's were in all professional recording and TV/Film editing studios. Macs were without doubt far more user friendly for creative artists and musicians whereas PC's were really for admin, offices, banks, shops, warehouses and accountants. TBH the only time you saw a PC in a pro recording studio it was being used as a wedge to hold the studio door open in summer... 🤣

[@natdenchfield8061]

That's not really true. Many edit studios used PCs for systems for editing, one called Wave something that used DSP cards. Pyramix is also extensively used in Film/TV. Nuendo is popular too and historically worked better on a PC, if not still. Sadie has also been popular in the professional world, especially broadcast. Pro Tools and Avid are the only reason macs are ubiquitous .. Logic is not really seen as professional enough a tool, nor any other DAW really .. It is all about Pro Tools and Avid (who bought out Digidesign) who were both historically tied to Macs because of the DSP hardware previously required .. But, it is true to say that OSX is easier to use for people who don't like computers and not so technically mindesd hence why many creative folks prefer Macs, including studio engineers .

[@IanBeato]

I refuse to give my money to a company that openly hates their customers, and lies about their shady business practices regarding sustainability and right to repair.

[@mixbustv]

You mean every company then

[@IanBeato]

@@mixbustv apple is specifically egregiously hypocritical in this regard. They comply only when their hand is forced by government regulations, not because they think it will benefit the consumer. There are countless examples of this predatory anti consumer behavior.

[@mellobotstudio]

Apple literally got busted and LOST in court for slowing down their products with updates. Some people are drones.

[@StotheEtotheB]

Nobody cares about what you think. ;)

[@wasabi333]

I own a macbook but I do agree with you.

[@ThierryLacan]

Mac user for 35 years, the best advice I can give you is to update your operating system with that of before. (When Ventura comes out, I install the latest version of Monterey, when Sonoma comes out, I install the latest version of Ventura, when Sequoia comes out, I would install the latest version of Sonoma. I don’t speak English very well, but I hope it’s clear... Hello from France !

[@jloiben12]

The benefit of Macs: The “quality floor” is substantially higher. The benefit of PCs: You can both get a better system on an absolute basis and on a dollar-for-dollar basis… if you are willing to put the work in. In other words, if you just want something that works, Macs are a great option. Because of Apple’s integration and closed system, the floor is high. Things just work because Apple does the legwork for you. They make the choices for you. But if you want the best possible system, or the best system for the money, PCs are where you get that

[@DystopianOwl]

The best possible system still depends on what you do with your computer. For example, there are Apple only software like Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro (which I use) where you can't run on a Windows machine. So no matter how good of a PC system you have, it won't matter if you can't work on it. Again, saving time and a lot of headache is worth going Mac for IMO.

[@jloiben12]

@@DystopianOwl This is a video about computers for music production. I thought what “the best” means would have been pretty clear…

[@AironExTv]

Takes time to do the proper research, find parts and finally build the thing. Fun, but it costs time. I prefer the flexibility of the PC but I see the attraction of a turn-key system. As soon as you go off the beat path though, MacOS is just as finicky as Windows ever was. Then you have to rely on help from other users, which is what happened here. Both paths have their challenges. I picked mine just like everybody else.

[@jloiben12]

@@AironExTv “Takes time… costs time.” Yup. This is the entire point of when I talked about Apple making the choices for you. Well said.

[@spiralmoment]

The best possible system to me is one that works every time, looks like someone actually thought about the design so it doesn't look like shit and is intuitive to use, and is completely silent.

[@JamesSteeleProjectVideos]

Welcome to the club, brother! I think you are really going to like it once you are used to it! I'm not trying to slight Windows at all... I know there are many people who do great work on that platform, but I have found that for ME... it's much easier for me to deal with any issues if things go wrong... and I just click with the OS much more. I've also found that often times the Mac version of a particular DAW just seems more stable. ENJOY!!!

[@mattrixx_audio]

Great stuff... You're going to love it more and more. These Ultra Macs are amazing.

[@AudioJanitor]

D, get into using Notes on your Mac. You can screenshot and paste mix info into folders. I have a ton of notes from pro's etc. All that is backed up automatically to the cloud.

[@PixelWaveAI]

To be honest with you, I have never worked on a PC in a professional studio! It will change your life!

[@ViolenDarkstalker]

I switched to a Mac Studio in March and minus a few vsts I have to boot the old ball and chain up for from some old sessions, I"m never going back.

[@BlackenedNL]

Got a M1 Ultra Mac Studio recently and it's such a beast, it can handle anything I throw at it with ease. Also Core Audio is so much better than Asio4All. Congrats on the new system dude, what a beast!

[@hubbalol]

Best MacOS feature for creatives - quick preview anything with ’spacebar’. Amazing for quickly browsing through samples in folders, photos, readme .txts, excel sheets or basically anything.

[@braunhausmedia]

Welcome to Mac. I made the switch about ten years ago after being a diehard PC guy. I've never gone back.

[@Amusiastudio]

Same. They are expensive but get a very long life out of them before needing to replace them.

[@F-Andre]

@@Amusiastudio not really ... its vice versa

[@Amusiastudio]

@@F-Andre ive had my mac for 10 years and only now am i considering an upgrade. Never had a pc last that long without getting crippled with bugs and bloat.

[@F-Andre]

@@Amusiastudio i upgraded in23 last update was in 2015 and 2007

[@nomore6167]

@@Amusiastudio "Never had a pc last [10 years] without getting crippled with bugs and bloat" - And did the price of your PCs cost anywhere close to the price of your Mac? You can go a long way by choosing the right components. I'm typing this on an 11-year-old PC that cost just under $1,850 when I built it in 2013, and it still runs well. I'm not making any judgement on which is better (PC or Mac); I'm only pointing out that PCs absolutely can last 10 years and longer.

[@MJAS-CosMical-Scales]

Got the Mac Studio M2 Max Chip & Have the same DigiCal hub & I have had it for a few months now and is running much better than my MacBook Pro 💻 BigUps for the Switch but the Storage & Memory space you have is way more than what I have though! All the Best with the new setup 👑👊🏿✊🏿✌🏿👑

[@psyderdj]

You probably render these videos a lot faster than before too, so I am sure that is a big time saver for you now!

[@mixbustv]

Speed is definitely noticeable, much more noticeable than any previous PC upgrade

[@paulgr5943]

Yeah.!! Yo can talk about Your video editor experience!! Thatas a hot new KZbin video!

[@fausto_colella]

@@mixbustv David do you have a link for that keyboard you're using with your new mac studio ??

[@tutubeos]

Welcome to the Mac ☺️ It’s still funny to see people enjoying the switch from PC to Mac 😁 I think your square, cheap Samsung SSD is one of the slowest. I suggest you considering the Samsung NVMe ones-they’re double the speed. The internal SSD is so expensive because it’s a 40gb/s drive s, while the fastest external drives achieve around 20 Gb/s (even if are sold at 40gb/s) David, of course, you can cut files 😁, but it’s called “move” instead of “cut.” Just move a file while holding the command key on the keyboard. You’re welcome ☺️ The search function is awesome! Try using smart folders, tags for files, FileVault, Time Machine, and Automator-you can automate so many operations. For music, never update to the latest macOS right away. Wait at least six months or even a year for safety. The problem isn’t the macOS itself, but that plugin companies need time to update their software. The Mac is so silent because the M processor uses ARM technology (the same as in iPhones) and not RISC like Intel, so it consumes about 10 times less power.

[@deadislander]

TURN OFF AUTO UPDATE!!!!!! OTHERWISE YOU WILL HAVE AN UNSTABLE SYSTEM!

[@FLH3official]

True. After 30 years on Mac, I say it's a good idea. Update only when you want (usualy 6 months after the launch of a new OS, after 3dr parties udate their products)

[@alessandrosummer]

Welcome on Mac! Happy to having always worked on it for everything I do - not just music

[@velanche]

Congrats on your transition to the Mac! I was a PC user, got nerdy, swapped this card or installed that chip...fun for awhile, until it wasn't. I then copped a MacBook Pro in 2011, upgraded in 2013 due to a hardware issue via warranty replacement (AppleCare, baby!) and did not look back. But the Intel gotchas got annoying, especially on hot days when it feels like it should work, but the fans kicked in and my laptop ended up throttling. With Apple silicon, it really was a game changer; no more throttling or system overload, really quiet, super efficient and fast. I have a 14" M1 Max MBP,, 64GB memory, 4TB SSD. I'm a DJ and producer, and also at times make video content, so like you, I was willing to pay more for the convenience (goodbye, offloading sample and other libraries to an external SSD). I have a CalDigit TS4, a 16-port powered USB hub, and even an Apple Studio Display, and all....ALL...of the peripherals and devices I have connected works. I just wanted to focus on creating instead of figuring out tech. Not to say that figuring out tech isn't fun or challenging at times, but I'm fine skipping the DIY computer building route....been there, done that. Thanks for sharing your insights on your journey; hope you get tons of mileage from your Mac Studio! Peace.

[@michaelbonanno7476]

Hey David! My heart goes out to you man! I don’t have the set up you do by a long shot, but the frustrations (insert your own phrase) no matter what level, we all have our ups and downs with gear. If there’s anything positive about it, it’s that you find the community (eventually) that gets us to the next gear. Rock on!

[@synapticrush]

"Let's face it, there's no competition'.. 'nuff said 🎯

[@LassiAndPyry]

Given that you love the Cmd+Space shortcut - which I also use 500x a day - it's good to know that sometimes Mac's go a bit crazy with the indexing of the spotlight search. My Mac has on several occasions gotten stuck in some kind of indexing frenzy where it eats up 90% of CPU power permanently while trying to index your hard drive, and one one occasion it literally forgot everything. Both times the answer is to Google how to shut down and reset the spotlight indexing and it fixed it. Good to keep in mind if your machine at any point feels like it's losing power and you're not running any software.. it might be the spotlight going ga-ga.

[@HemantKhedekar2713]

PLZ DO NOT UPDATE UR MAC OS IT'S

[@Studio22mix]

I’m having my backup harddrives replaced with NVMe4.0 M2 drives running in raid 2 so I have fast and very safe backups now. Still running on a Mac Mini but everything works flawlessly. I was thinking about building a new pc but after rebuilding a pc for my daughter I think I will stay on Mac for now, the whole Windows setup and drivers is a pain in the ass. 😊

[@CamariMusic]

Studio One 6 tells you any problematic plugins

[@lemonaudio]

Don´t update the OS in a studio computer, you don´t need to! Serban Ghenea use in his studio pretty old OS´s. They will update only when some new plugins will not work anymore. Also the OS you got delilvered with the mac is usually the best and fastest.

[@RobKingRC]

Once you go Mac, you won’t go back😂

[@nofood1]

True. I still have a pc for playing games on Steam. That’s all folks. 😅

[@MrBalkanian]

I was a hardcore Windowssystem user for all of my PC-life. Build every Tower my own. Working on the creative side of things (Graphics, music and cutting). I switched. Not one moment of regret! No comparison how smooth things are running. With the ARMs CPUs the tides have changed.

[@1972OGTony]

My only problem with Windows is the USB issue you mentioned. If all you’re doing is engineer work that Mac is worth it for just working all the time peace of mind. As a hobbyist I couldn’t justify the price for those specs. But Apple hasn’t cracked the code to processing power = more heat issues, Apple just put systems in place to make sure their chips don’t max out. They don’t know more than Intel or AMD who have been doing this for decades. The other reason I stopped buying Macs is because my first Mac was a PowerPc that they discontinued which I lost money on. Apple will eventually discontinue M1 M2 and make you upgrade to M3 like they are doing with Intel Macs and like they did with PowerPC. You’d be lucky if that Mac is not obsolete in 5-6 years they way they move. Apple model is to make you buy their products every 1-2 years.

[@mixbustv]

I personally know at least 10 or 12 professional facilities, not even just "studios" that run 10yo Macs still. I'm not sure how accurate that statement is.

[@1972OGTony]

@@mixbustv they can’t be updating the OS

[@jzealmedia]

You can actually cut files on mac using "command x" and select the target file. Also, here is a good tip: do not install new updates or upgrade to a new OS immediately when it's released,. Instead, wait for go-ahead from your various software and plugin developers before making a move. Do not regret switching to mac.

[@MetatronsCube23]

You could have just got a new motherboard and an amd ryzen processor.

[@AVDRE]

I was thinking if AMD would've had these problems too. But I don't use any hardware gear so I wouldn't know🤷🏽‍♂️

[@mixbustv]

You mean the 3rd mobo and the 3rd processor? No thanks, I'm not gonna waste more time with it. Downtime for me means I lose money. Also some AMD have the same TB issue

[@VinceJackson1]

I switched about a year ago & its been amazing!! You can also customize the shortcuts 😁 have fun...

[@joshuakincheloe]

One thing that you’re gonna love is when you actually need to upgrade the Mac in about five years you’ll still be able to sell it and make money towards your next Mac. Welcome to the fold David!

[@SamHocking]

Swings and roundabouts. You have to upgrade more frequently in an Apple ecosphere to keep from falling off Apples depreciation/obsolescence cliff. As Macs are generally quite a bit slower for the same investment cost than X86 systems it's unavoidable you will be spending more money in Apples business model. I use both Silicon and X86. Silicone for mobile / less demanding work, X86 for simply getting through more processing faster and more upgradable.

[@joshuakincheloe]

@@SamHocking agree to disagree but keep swinging

[@joshuakincheloe]

My M1 system was purchased in 2020 and it still works just fine. I’ll talk to you next year when I upgrade.

[@SamHocking]

@@joshuakincheloe Sure, but I'm guessing like me, you upgraded to Silicon because Apple dropped OS support on their X86 hardware. This is my point, you can still use audio plugins and software from the 90s on Microsoft or Linux X86 systems.

[@joshuakincheloe]

@@SamHocking nobody cares she is. We already went through that when we went from Motorola chips to Intel and now we’re moving on again. We’re not gonna switch architectures anytime soon as that was over 20 years ago. The thing about Mac users, his money is not the problem, we only care about stable platforms. When you do this for a living, it changes your perspective and at the end of the day the Mac is tax write off. so again, nobody cares. What will be nice those when he sells his Mac it’ll still be worth money unlike with an old PC. That’s my point.

[@djcontour]

I worked on a 2015 MBP up until like 2021. It started to get slowed and I couldn’t update due to needing an egpu workaround. So I built a beast of a pc for way less than a new Mac would’ve cost for what I needed. However, I hated how much of a pain it was to get all my VSTs working and getting Ableton setup. A couple months later, apple released the m series chip and I was like…I just wasted my money haha. But I’m Still on the same pc and it works like a charm. That’s the thing I like about windows. Although it was a disaster to migrate, now everything is flawless

[@d1str3ss0r]

Best choice ever,i never come back to Windows since 2015. Apple best for music.

[@zeppo20]

The best thing on mac is the core audio (Aggregate) and the security. I work on both plataforms but I prefer Mac.

[@RJ1J]

Send it back!! ProTools on a Mac is terrible. The performance is a fraction of that on PC.

[@mixbustv]

😂😂 you didn't watch the video. Also, I'm PT beta tester. PT on Mac (M1 and 2 and 3) is flawless

[@3mstudiospalmdesert]

When I got Pro Tools LE twenty some years ago, I bought a Sony Vaio to run it. I returned that computer in less than a day and bought a G4. I've never looked back.

[@wdkbeats]

I couldn't disagree more with everything said in this video. 15 years of professional mixing on Windows (in my studio) and Mac (different studios) - never going to use Mac in my place.

[@mixbustv]

You disagree... With what? I wonder if you guys even watched the video. You did 15 years of professional mixing on Windows? Wow cool, I did 20. And if you watched the video you'd know I said I didn't have any issue up until now. Things change, Intel is a mess, Mac right now is by far the best choice.

[@wdkbeats]

@@mixbustv Of course I watched the video. Your issues with USB etc were just your issues. I have even more USB devices and all work flawlessly. Intel is a mess at this moment, but AMD CPUs work very, very well. I'll be upgrading to 9950x as soon as it's out. M2 Ultra can barely compete with 7950x.

[@turtlefeet7722]

Win 10-11 is crap.

[@wygantsh]

I ended up paying extra for the 8TB storage option to prevent the hassle of connecting external drives and the lag time introduced by usb-c

[@ggmusic6974]

This is kind of misleading, as the issues are Intel-based. AMD does not have these issues. Be aware: Mac OS updates are death for plugins, as Apple does not give plugin devs the opportunity to update the plugins before they release the OS.

[@davidwestonline]

Noone on a hot production system updates his OS immediately after release. Just wait a few days (or weeks) and let the developers their time to fix everything. So simple.

[@mixbustv]

Misleading? Did you watch the video at all or you just just read the title? Because I repeat, multiple times in it, that the issue is with Intel. So how it this misleading? Also, just so you know, some AMD have the same TB issue. And also, it doesn't matter what processor you use you ain't gonna have a PC more quiet than the Mac

[@ggmusic6974]

@@mixbustv Yes, I watched the video, and I was referring to for instance when you compare USB-ports, "pc vs Mac". USB-ports are strictly motherboard-related, and Intel vs AMD chipsets, and pc-builder enthusiasts make sure to buy motherboards that support all the equipment you own and futureproof what you may buy in the future. A simple motherboard-swap will cost you about 150$. This is from the perspective of a pc-building hobby-level music producer. As you state; this is your dayjob. A studio-computer is a tool in your world, and paying extra for tools that just works right out of the box is a no-brainer. 🙂

[@kylecalandrelle7209]

Just don’t update os until the next one comes out or everything works leave it. Mojave ran great on my 2012 mini

[@gt4032]

Never had any problems with plugin or OS updates for over 20 years on Mac. You just wait at least 6 months to update. This is elementary stuff.

[@MarkDanov]

I did something similar only I built my PC 3 years ago and a few weeks ago decided to switch to an MBP. Loving it so far, everything is smooth and I have not been able to push it hard enough for the fans to kick in so it's dead silent in the studio.

[@BlurredTrees]

Fans from computers start to sound like jet engines in a studio fast. So relieving with the no fan noise.

[@stevelibby3]

Mac user for 25 years specifically for Logic...and the OS. I currently have a 2017 iMac that is still going strong and next will likely be a Mini. The new Mac studios are pretty dope but I think an M2 mini is perfectly fine for music production

[@KhasrouhRecords]

the mac studio has a known problem with USB A ports , yesterday my ilok stopped working because the mac decided to stop giving power to the usb , its a voltage issue so i decided to get a usb hub with an external power 12v

[@sebk2669]

Working an mac since the beginning of my production, I don’t want to go anywhere else , for music production it’s working so well , for me .

[@steveburns6912]

funny thing, is that what you describe is exactly what I expereinced from just making my PC a "hackintosh". Haven't looked back... my i7700k barely uses half CPU in huge projects.... NOT THE CASE WITH WINDOWS. So, obviously hardware compatibility is an issue, but just switching the OS to mac operating systems (im on ventura but started on sierra) made my life far far far easier and less stressful... Less compatibility issues and smoother operation. I used to be huge into building PCs and I haven't needed to touch it since about 2017 when I switch to hackintosh. (knock on wood)

[@sonicart1808]

Congratulations David, it's a smart decision when dealing with audio for all the reasons you've mentioned....

[@sophialeonecomics]

In my opinion, I always try to work with the original files by cutting and pasting within the Mac OS as opposed to copy and delete from original folder. You can cut and paste the file by simply clicking on the file and then drag and dropping into a new folder (Mojave OS). Especially when I render a large music video out of Ableton Live, I'm always afraid that copying the file will destroy the quality. If I need a copy of the file, I will take if from backup (Time Machine). I always thought the Windows OS is a piece of junk and switched to MacBook in 2008 and never regretted it.

[@mcpribs]

I’m so happy for you!

[@TommyAlanRaines]

I am thinking to move a file or photo on mac to another internal folder, all you have to do is select it and drag it to the folder.

[@sleeptownProductions]

Thank you so much for diving so deeply into your experience! I think I'll be switching to Mac after also using Windows for production for the last 15 years myself.

[@devarni]

There are also APFS drivers for Windows (Paragon) and they have a trial version that should be enough to copy all drives. I would have formatted the drive on macOS and then tried to copy the files from exFat to APFS on Windows. Yes, cutting files only requires option+command to achieve the same effect. Mac is heavily geared towards drag and drop, if you use the Finder to drag and drop, files will be moved by default.

[@michaelwebster8389]

Yeah, I've had the same problems with those drives, and they just drop off the usb after a few hours.

[@oh515]

The clue is to not upgrade before you know it’s safe. My strategy is to wait till I have to.

[@earlsfield]

btw of course you can cut. This was removed from I think Mountain Lion or later, but select what you want to cut, cmd+c, then in the target folder you go alt command v and it will cut, just like on PC or on old macs with cmd X. There are at least two other ways to cut but i forgot these as I use this method now for years. Also, get used to cloud updates for Time Machine. One big update and the rest will be a breeze daily. Also, modenr OSX doesn't need NTFS bridge like crossover, so you can plug whatever and it will read your old FAT or NTFS drives. Also , spec/price debate - it is not as it was 10 years ago, you are spot on. And the quality - I am writing this on my MB pro 15 that is 10 years old, went through being studio computer etc, and now it is "office notebook" - I can STILL run most of my projects on it, ofc it would be unprofessional to do so, but making the point - that Mac Studio you got will be legit centrepiece of your studio for the next X years.

[@abelgutierrez1283]

David, you're killing it. You got a new fan here. So I'm an FL Studio user for almost 25 years on Windows. I know FL has a Mac version, but I'm stuck on Win for two reasons 1) If audio production was my only concern and 2) If I had the money, you've convinced me to go with a Mac. Anyway, I'm really happy for you man, you seem excited and pumped about your new setup. Silent machine?! Insane. Keep it up, brother.

[@mixbustv]

Thank you!

[@GdpJapan]

I've been using exactly the same machine you have with PT Ultimate HDX and AVID chassis. That thing is a beast.