The Inconvenient Truth About New Laptops

[@Dave2D]

i can't believe apple changed their base ram from 8gb to 16gb as i was making this video lol

[@Cyro268]

Your devices are listening to you and snitched to Tim Cook

[@AhmedSh-nc6lj]

They wanted to ruin the video for you 😂

[@cameronbosch1213]

Maybe you should have redone this video...

[@osman505]

bonus point for apple ig

[@Buschaga]

And I can't believe you opted to not update your video before sending it out to the public. Even a short addendum at the end would have been fine.

[@N0Xa880iUL]

The M1 MBA has rattled the laptop market in India. Never before has been an Apple device so accessible and so bang-for-buck for the average buyer.

[@sushant079]

I know right, I just got one for myself. Rs. 48,999 ($599).. Runs so well, doesn't feel like a 4-year-old machine. And the battery life is just next level. The amount of good stuff you are getting at this price point is amazing (like the best keyboard, speakers, screen and of course portability) loving this device.

[@agps4418]

im indonesian so i dont get what you mean. did it come recently?

[@Shubham-dh7ns]

@@agps4418 no its on sale online and its price is cheaper than many windows laptops

[@chequeredflag16]

​@@agps4418 No. It's just that it's retailing for about half of the original price. Around 600 USD. And for that price it's an amazing deal despite being few year older.

[@N0Xa880iUL]

@@agps4418 For the last few months it's on steep discount and can be had for ₹50,000 instead of the initial ₹100,000. At that price, there's no laptop like it. Even though it's from Apple which is known to be too expensive for the average buyer. It has put a top notch device (compared to whatever sells from windows) in hands of I don't know how many people. Atleast thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people, who otherwise wouldn't have bought apple. Previous Intel based MBAs, even on sale, were too old and just not as performant.

[@broderick7932]

literally as of this week Apple’s latest laptops start at 16GB of RAM

[@filip.a.]

and M2 and M3 macbook airs that they are still selling also start at 16 GB of ram now for the same price, which isnt bad.

[@rohanldo]

but still dare to show up on 256GB storage

[@Antody]

I mean they used to be 128 and for light office use 256 should be enough ​@@rohanldo

[@gehtdinichtsan309]

latest m4pro start with 24, m4max with 36gb of ram.

[@gehtdinichtsan309]

@@rohanldo m4pro: 512gb, m4max: 1tb

[@SANG0I]

What’s crazy is the fact that Apple would not have increased the RAM if LLMs and AI hadn’t taken off and become a standard in tech.

[@roadrash999]

99% of their users don't use anything other than Safari so it's a perfectly serviceable machine.

[@Gigusx]

​@@roadrash999 I think you're underestimating how many professionals that use a lot of RAM (developers, graphic designers, 3d artists, filmmakers etc.) use a mac over pc. Apple's tablets are also pretty big in the creative industry.

[@roadrash999]

@@Gigusx Yes and those numbers are still drowned out by millions of normal users.

[@Gigusx]

@@roadrash999 To some extent, yeah, and yet... MacBook Pro which are more powerful make up most of the sales of Macs apparently. It's a relatively small market - Macs make up both a very small share of Apple's sales and aren't as common choice for PC, but they will be the default choice for many professionals in the more memory-intensive fields. It's going to drive the numbers up a lot.

[@andynormancx]

@@Gigusxthose users weren’t the ones buying the 8GB machines…

[@XiaoPangZi]

I wish Dave2D would make a wallpaper app

[@simonvutov7575]

Brooo not this reference all over KZbin lol

[@simonvutov7575]

Honestly though, I thought about it for a bit and that would be pretty good, Dave has a some dope wallpapers

[@porquee]

​@@simonvutov7575yeah I think marques did a good job responding to the situation, like how he used to be shady about sponsorships but changed for the better being upfront about them too

[@onesteeltank]

The app should just consist of a single teal wallpaper with that cutout of his face on it and have it be $500

[@marcusellby]

That's just a solid teal

[@streitkrafte]

So nice to watch a YT video these days without unnecessary background music. Kudos.

[@marvinmallafre4418]

ABSOLUTLEY......thats the most underrated commenti've read in a long time

[@lone4896]

it only works when your video has contents

[@alpacamale2909]

Battery life is a game changer. Treating your laptop like you treat your phone is a dream come true. I hate plugging and unplugging the power cord just to maintain my laptop's battery health.

[@lores996]

Agree. That's why I love my Intel windows laptop, the latest chip makes wonders!

[@erickpo4044]

I used battery limiter for my 7 years old laptop.. the battery never goes beyond 60% and i plugged it in everytime

[@osku388]

i use mine as a desktop. battery has been fine, i think we have a lot of the old wives' tale kind of things about batteries that just aren't too relevant anymore

[@ImShubhamY]

There are so many laptops that can't run their hardware at full power on battery, you got stay connected.

[@gnanasabaapatirg7376]

What is it?​@@erickpo4044

[@elliottharris7496]

It's crazy how good of a deal the M1 air has been since it launched in 2020. I still remember making a spreadsheet of some of the most popular and highly recommended windows laptops at the time and comparing price to performance. Having the MacBook as the definitive winner was so insane. I bought one and never regretted it.

[@ikuturso7570]

Although very few people really need that Cpu performance. Even battery life is good enough for most if it exceeds 4-5 hours.

[@Mentous680]

​@@ikuturso7570 most people buy it for the battery life, and no, 4-5 is not enough. as a student I use it a lot and I like to not think about charging at all. I would probably switch to then new windows devices in some years after my mac is done. because fuck apple.

[@TheIndulgers]

I have the OG base M1 Air from 2020. Literally the best electronics purchase I’ve ever made. $900 and 4 years later still runs like new. Superb build quality, snappy, and still better battery life and standby than most other laptops out there. Amazing.

[@lores996]

I have had it and sold for 400$ because that's the price of an ultra limited computer, with limited ports, limited memory, not future-proof RAM. I would not recommend it even for 400$ nowadays, STAY AWAY

[@Mustafa-ultra23]

Such an overrated argument! I did buy an i5 HP Gaming Pc in 2019 for about 950$, 16gb, 512gb SSD, GTX1650, it still works perfectly.

[@UJ_01]

Same running a Lenovo with GTX 1650

[@Mustafa-ultra23]

@lores996 256gb of storage must be a crime

[@CarsTechWood]

I bought a used M1 MBP for $450. Also have a M1 Mac mini. I see no reason to upgrade because the M1 has never been slow

[@Alex-hv3ir]

I bought my 8GB M1 MBA 4 years ago and i'm totally fine with it. I've bought it for 999€ discounted from 1299€ a few months after release and - games a part - is holding up REALLY well. It honestly feels like it's a 2024 device. Used basically everyday for productivity, gaming, casual use and i still have "all day battery life" and performance is honestly more than enough for what i do. Now i even get apple intelligence, which imo is a pretty big update; not quite groundbreaking but almost there.

[@jochenkraus7016]

We also bought an M1 Air because the M2 was much more expensive at that time and didn't have more base RAM. We added a magnetic USB cable, so there's kind of Magsafe. But prices for RAM upgrades are a joke. For 230€ you get 64GB DDR5 or even more DDR4. And before someone says that the RAM Apple uses is faster: For 230€ I can buy a GPU with 8GB. And for 460€, a PS5 with 16GB.

[@anshulkandpal2384]

what games do you play on it?

[@MyReviews_karkan]

"copilot is just a scam". That was gold. 😂

[@bradhaines3142]

not gold its just true. it's more blatant than usual spyware

[@MyReviews_karkan]

@bradhaines3142 I agree 100%. Hence why I'm calling it gold.

[@chillyoursenses]

i don t think calling ai scam would make sense cause it's useful as best but I also want that off button right

[@seiji-kun9488]

So Is Apple Intelligence?

[@cottonycloud-]

It feels like a marketing gimmick, but thankful for the increased specs at least.

[@vmaxmadness]

My opinion... Unless you are a gamer you do not need the latest and greatest. Running my 6 yr old Thinkpad with Fedora and 32G of RAM and it does what I need it to do. This thing is a pleasure to work with and the keyboard is great.

[@CZTachyonsVN]

Even as a gamer you do not need the latest and greatest. I’m still daily driving my 8yo laptop. My next upgrade won’t be new gen hardware either. Same with phones. My second hand Samsung s8 is still going strong.

[@vmaxmadness]

@@CZTachyonsVN My Samsung is 6 years old. Does the job. I want a phone, not a computer in my hand. My fingers too big for that minute keyboard. lol!

[@df3yt]

Gamers would benefit way more using a desktop for way less and not having the constant over heating issues I get with all gaming laptops. They're fine for cold climates.

[@qwertyrewtywyterty]

​@CZTachyonsVN nah thats just copium, u playing old games, and ur s8 is also a lot slower than current gen phones

[@CZTachyonsVN]

@@qwertyrewtywyterty I don't play a lot of AAA games and when I do, my settings are on low. And yes, my s8 is slower than current gen phones, what's your point? I never said that the s8 is the fastest phone on Earth.

[@AZisk]

dave forgot to publish this 2 days ago. welcome back !

[@pratikmurari8182]

Lol, I was just about to say the same thing!

[@jeanbiroute]

That’s why the MacBook Air ram comment is not correct anymore lol

[@Retardead_smurf]

At least he was correct about it being the last time Dey do that.. 😅

[@PixelHunter0505]

sorry guys Im out of the world, what happened?

[@RomboutVersluijs]

​@@PixelHunter0505didn't watch the video yet. He probably made a remark about ram on MacBook air. Yet apple announced they gonna release mb air with 16gb ram. Which is kinda weird

[@voirvibes5181]

skip to 7:30 for the inconvenient truth, it's the price

[@AAA-xc4zm]

Came here to say the exact

[@MaximumRD]

THANKS!

[@guilherme5094]

o7!

[@luismadrigal3223]

Real MVP

[@CastorRabbit]

with vids like these, who needs friends?

[@srikard1564]

Smartphone market saturated, laptop market saturated. Tech companies will have tough time in future.

[@shakir4969]

they'll sell us more subcriptions

[@Thetache]

The AI based systems mean that the opposite will happen, all old tech with soldered on RAM and processors will be rendered obsolete by the power jump needed to run AI at full speed in a year or so.

[@Propain4eva]

Nothing some layoffs wont fix

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@Thetache Exactly why I went for Framework and why I'm not buying Lunar Lake; I'm waiting for Arrow Lake on desktop (and hoping it doesn't suck).

[@cozidonapreguissa]

​@@Thetache Any modern gpu can do AI better than any Ai processor

[@jfieqj]

I'm a Mac and PC user. I have a 16" MacBook Pro and a desktop PC I built. I'm SO GLAD the PC space has finally caught up with Macs in energy efficiency and, for the most part, hardware. I still think the trackpads mostly aren't nearly as good, but they at least went from unacceptable to decent. The landscape improved so much in the past couple years. I hope Apple feels the pressure. They just fixed the baseline RAM. Next they need to fix the baseline SSD and adopt OLED. I hope they also make their RAM and SSD upgrade prices less ridiculous, but let's be real, they won't do that.

[@ras4756]

Who has the best trackpad on a pc laptop? That’s what I’m looking for now that processors are improved. Any suggestions

[@Patrickdaawsome]

I believe the Apple XDR displays like on the MacBook Pro uses mini-LED.

[@eitanr]

Best combo right here- MacBook Pro with custom desktop PC. However, I'd probably install Linux on the desktop rather than Windows.

[@faizanbaber]

1:52 its crazy to see intel laptop on top. Like that's crazy improvement on intel's side

[@JanMichalSzulew]

I'm really glad they managed to get their s**t together, it was sad to see such a brand go downhill

[@abyssmage6979]

Nah, they kind of deserved it. They have been scummy with their pricing since ever. On the other hand, glad AMD is getting bigger. Have an Ryzen AI 9 and don't regret it

[@UthayaharanYanushanth]

3:46 Your kid trying to con your parent into buying a "gaming laptop" You don't have to use that word. This the word that almost all parents get angry when heard of. Thankyou for mentioning this Dave. 😊

[@henrikg1388]

Having that dilemma right now. The worst part is that I cannot argue with him, since I know I wouldn't have taken a dGPU as a "gaming laptop" myself. 😐

[@eldonad]

As they should be! Gaming laptops are a giant scam anyways, these devices will : - Cost more for equal performance than their desktop counterparts - Not last as long as normal laptops due to the increased thermal stress, and more power hungry (usually non replaceable) components - Have poor battery performance due to said power hungry components - Look dumber - Be noisier du to more powerful fans. Personally if I had children, and if my children were to ask me for gaming laptops, I would first tell them all of the above with an annoying voice, and then : - Buy a refurbished business grade laptop for like 200 to 400$, which is the only good cost to quality option of the market in my opinion, on which I would maybe even put Linux to ensure maximum productivity (unless weird software is needed for their school) - Spend the remainder of my budget on a nice desktop gaming pc This would give me the added bonus as a parent that I could restrict the usage of the gaming rig without preventing work, if necessary. Not a perfect solution of course, there is still plenty of fun to be had on a business laptop if studies are boring enough, but nice to have the option.

[@geoffreyjohnhizon8531]

More like convincing your wife that your kid needs a gaming laptop!

[@parsafarjammusic28]

Also Apple just dropped the M4 MBPs

[@graxxor]

That’s usually Linus’s job to drop stuff

[@savedfaves]

And upped MBA base RAM to 16 GB.

[@Hikari-sai]

when intel chip is made by tsmc, it finally doesn't suck anymore. somehow, AMD figured that out years ago

[@420247paul]

hurrrdurrr

[@RohanSanjith]

Engineers are from Intel and AMD. Tsmc doesn't engineer the 3d vcache, tsmc provides the tools and platform

[@thomasrigamonti1566]

5:05 yesterday Apple hosted a MacBook Pro event where they announced all base model Macs in the lineup will now ship with 16gb of ram (including the m2 & m3 MacBook Airs)

[@Jenny_Digital]

Taking away replaceable internal storage is the most disappointing thing laptop makers are doing, and this is going to lead to tragic levels of unnecessary e-waste.

[@Rialagma]

They came for the batteries and we said nothing, they came for the ram and we said nothing, they came for...

[@Jenny_Digital]

…and when they came for our ports, who would speak out for them. The noughts and ones were silenced. Forever trapped in corporate gulags.

[@dushanbebbddhdhdjsjs715]

Apple has updated everything is 16gb now just hanged yesterday

[@rohanldo]

with 256 gigs of storage? i'm good

[@ArthropodSpidey]

​@@rohanldoyou can't afford it anyway

[@fran2911]

@@ArthropodSpidey Nice ragebait, it's unacceptable.

[@ArthropodSpidey]

@@fran2911 it got you to rage, didn't it? Did you forget that external storage exists?

[@Lumilicious]

@@fran2911 You know what's also unacceptable? A trash trackpad, bad speakers, mediocre screen, shit battery life or plastic build and a bad OS with ads (lol).

[@Batmancontingencyplans]

The quality of Dave2D videos have gone up significantly I'm turning on the notifications, keep up buddy!!

[@jeffersonmp4]

Never seen a video get so outdated so quickly

[@AndresCosas]

already outdated the second it dropped, kinda surprised he even released it since so much info is just not accurate anymore

[@Dark.Syndicate]

well only one part is outdated. rest is fine. but i dont know about that m1 laptop for

[@Dygear]

@AZisk had his video get outdated right as the upload completed, and right around the time you got to the end of the playtime of the video. It was wild.

[@SahandRahmdel]

then you had to watch alex ziskind's review of mac mini yesterday hahaha

[@brunovbc]

​@@AndresCosas 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mandobaron]

I just recommended a brand new 16/256 M2 Macbook Air for $750 off amazon to a friend. Has the redesigned MBA chassis too. You can bargain hunt for a good deal on a used machine but that off the shelf deal is pretty hard to beat for an average user.

[@glub1381]

I've literally never used apple products but that exact deal is tempting me

[@theblitz1687]

These new windows laptops are basically what m1 was when it first came out. Things should balance out as new versions of these windows machines come out with likely incremental updates like m2 and m3.

[@aniketbilenia8740]

Not until Microsoft fixes their modern standby, honestly this is the worst implementation of laptop sleep state till date.

[@00shivani]

Absolutely not, are you kidding? They are more than competitive with the M4 Max chips, with way better price points. The Galaxy Book 4 Ultra with Intel Core Ultra 9, which is a 24 core CPU plus NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 graphics??? (M4 max only promises max of 16 core CPU + integrated graphics 40 core max) This is an INSANE duo in terms of sheer processing power by windows - for $2999. 16 inch screen, this would be close to 4000$ on this year’s M4 Max MBP with similar specs. Plus 32 GB RAM + 1TB SSD included in base model. Competitive with M1?? Whaaat

[@00shivani]

@@aniketbilenia8740I agree with this, however, a lot of people who purchase these powerful, weighty machines intend to use them at desks or in bed. I have yet to lug my computer to a coffee shop to code or photoshop. I believe in working at my desk.. and drinking coffee at a coffee shop. If you are a student, especially grad students in science or art fields and need to use rendering software and take their device from class to class, for the sake of battery life I would push them to get a MacBook. For people like me, who keep their laptop at home, I will definitely take the better specs and processing power over battery life.

[@vaf3614]

​@@00shivani your comparison is only valid when comparing prices. During heavy tasks the dedicated gpu is gonna draw huge amounts of power, resulting in a very poor battery life compared to a mac. Also I believe the comment is more about comparing the Snapdragon to the Apple Silicon M1, which is a fair comparison in terms of usability/compatibility

[@00shivani]

@@vaf3614 their comment said “windows laptops” so that’s what my response was to. If they said snapdragon chips specifically, then I likely wouldn’t say anything, bc I am personally interested in and researching the Intel ultra chips. My comment is not about price, but the price is a major plus, the processing power I mentioned on the Nvidia RTX 4070 is insane, you are mistaken to think M4 Max’s integrated graphics is comparable. It might be comparable.. but that makes the Pro and regular GPU non competitive at all. We are talking about Nvidia here. Look up the specs. The Intel ultra 9 is also insane, 24 cores? Wow. I nerd out for a good cpu. Maybe I’m biased bc I’m investing in Intel. People who get pro machines are more so worried about their intensive workloads rather than battery life. If you want to write a novel in a coffee shop, you should go for a light, portable, efficient machine like the Air. Battery life is a problem on windows machines, but is it worth spending $1000 and sacrificing on processing power? In my opinion and use cases of programming, game dev and digital art, no. Large pro machines are clunky as expected, and lugging them around becomes a chore. I do work at my desk or bed, and I drink coffee at coffee shops. Don’t really mix and match the two. It would be cool if I got the MBP because I can complete my “ecosystem” as they call it. Easy to airdrop images etc. But tbh, I don’t like when companies restrict users on ecosystems. But business is business, I do get it. But I need that power if you know what I’m sayinn I’m still researching so we’ll see what happens

[@U2haveanicedayty2]

David love your Videos especially if anyone who is looking forward to getting laptop.Went looking at Desktops and was disappointed because they didn't have the specs i was looking for. Keep up the great Videos. 💯✌️

[@HamzaRahman]

Here before dave pins his comment about the update on Apple M4 and the RAM situation

[@martinschmelzle4864]

If you think about buying a Mac bcs you dislike Windows, I strongly recommend taking a good look at Linux first. It's better than ever, especially for gaming, and definitely deserves a mention in this discussion.

[@KensleyInnocent]

I think that Apple will start with 16GB of RAM now 5:45

[@Akash-l9f6o]

And start slowing down their 8gb devices.

[@capataina5087]

@@Akash-l9f6o Good. Their target audience will have already switched by then and the ones that don't fit in will be forced to let go. Perfect for any type of maintenance request an actual user might have.

[@saschab1298]

Great video. Thx for shooting in 4K60. Sooo smooth. Cheers Dave!

[@khoifoto]

3:05 The windows sleep mode is all screwed up! I wish MS did a better job.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Laughs in Steam Deck sleep mode.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Stop this lie snapdragon arm laptops already show it's x86 fault and not Microsoft's so you cant use that anymore 😂

[@Genesis-revelation70]

Hibernate is the way

[@Adam4]

@@kirby21-xz4rx So you didn't see the graph where Apple stomped that chip as well? It was tied with the Core Ultra after 48 hours, Apple was twice as efficient.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

@@Adam4 ik that I'm talking about x86 being crap and not micro fault Intel keeps screwing them over so I'm proving your point even more that apple had the right idea to get away from Intel years ago and use their own arm chips because m1 was revolutionary, so no matter how much crappy Intel tries to gaslight us into believing it x86 is not even close to as efficient as the arm architecture apple uses 💀

[@Macusercom]

I really like the new punch-in shots when talking. I would recommend trying to have the eyes on the same height on the wide angle shot and the close up as it could be a bit irritating when it isn't at the same position. But the quality of your shots is insane!

[@aidanfletcher8103]

i think they’re also zoomed in too much. which makes it a more noticeable

[@alexandrucapatina8688]

Regarding older generation laptops, I guess it also depends on what deals you can find. I bought a re-sealed Vivobook 15X OLED with 12500h for 400$. And it still has upgradable ram and storage. For a thin and light with 2 years warranty I think it’s pretty fine so I don’t regret it.

[@andyH_England]

Yes, that is a bargain. Well done. In a deal, I saw £600 for the Core Ultra 1 for a similar machine and didn't press the buy now, and they were sold out!

[@bradhaines3142]

12th gen was the last good generation, good choice

[@Danny-sn7nl]

@@andyH_England seen any good deals lately in the UK Andy?

[@andyH_England]

@@Danny-sn7nl there are some good 12 and 13 gen Asus deals out there. Around £500 for 12 gen with 16 GB/1TB Non-OLED, and about £700 for 13 gen i5 OLED 2.8K.

[@Valmed87]

Price is not a problem...the problem is you can only get laptops with intel processors that eat a lot of power. Thats why you can find them cheap...you compromise massivly on battery life, thermals, fan noise...

[@porcu]

wow... was wondering why no videos from you after so long. Great to see that you are back!

[@JimmyD76]

You NAILED it on this video. I can't believe how I have landed on a MacBook Air (M2) as my primary laptop at home now, but it was literally the bang for the buck and battery life! How did this happen? I am excited for purchasing laptops in another 12 months. We will start to see the benefits of these new technologies becoming more affordable (hopefully) and more supported (ARM).

[@jsabhiraj]

Hi, Could you answer a few questions please? How do you think the M2 MBA will hold up in the future if I buy now? And which is better to buy if, let’s say I will be buying 6 months later, M2 MBA or M3 MBA? Is 256 GB enough or do I have to go for 512 GB? (I don’t want to spend too much) And may I know why you will be buying another laptop in a year? How long should I expect to use a macbook? Thanks in advance!

[@lores996]

​@@jsabhirajget an M3 with 512GB, it's the minimum necessary these days. If you can't afford it, buy a recent Windows laptop and you'll get more bang for the buck for sure 👍😊

[@GreatTaiwan]

"I am excited for purchasing laptops in another 12 months. " this sounds super ironic

[@gwiggz7632]

I've recently needed to buy a new laptop and after not looking at the market for close to 8 years, this new landscape is utterly mind-boggling! Thank you, Dave. Perfectly explained.

[@amirbahalegharn365]

integrated gpu has become close to gtx1060 - or 980m or 1650ti mobile - . 7700hq-i3 9100 performance is around 1/6 core ultra 9 185 but considering price , things has gotten way more expensive than what it should be

[@avineshblah5739]

Yes, absolutely this. They're locking out potential customers by pricing these laptops too high even the older meteor lake are still expensive here in india. I think they're doing this to get rid of the older stock of laptops with older chips.

[@agps4418]

yes it's a strategy. the new laptop build hype. then interested people would be blocked by its price. the same people would then be redirected to the older laptops.

[@Simon-nx1sc]

Thank you dave, This is exactly the type of videos I’m subscribed for!

[@alphabets0ng]

The M1 MacBook Air was my gateway drug into the Apple ecosystem. I am still using it for everything including video editing and I have no intention of upgrading. The M1 MacBook Air was and still is amazing!

[@savedfaves]

No need to upgrade if you're happy with your machine.

[@GolfCharlieBOT]

same

[@liberationyogi]

I just want to say that you simplify tag so good even at second year college student can easily understand that I went to work is fantastic Dev that's why I pay my internet bills for thank you for making such quality content I love you dude

[@ezproductions51]

Everyone saying this was recorded a week ago but there is literally a clip of last nights world series at 1:14

[@Cyro268]

Oh good eye for detail! Game 5 that too

[@MrVanshajSaxena]

This means he's out of loop for some reason. I knew for some reason this was gonna happen even before Apple announced it.

[@semperfitygaming5619]

Yeah great catch I almost missed that. Not so much it was recorded before the Apple Event, just not in the loop. That’s a big difference

[@Aurora12488]

That's B-roll, which very likely was recorded separately from the video of him reading the script. So it could still easily be that the script was recorded before yesterday's announcement.

[@JohnDontFollowMe]

Very good advice! I will follow this and wait for 3 years more!

[@comebackata2]

depth of field in the close-up is amazing

[@FR4M3Sharma]

Seperate cameras

[@mitcheroar]

I absolutely love you Dave. I've been watching your videos for years now maybe ever since the beginning I don't know. I can't think that far back. I do however, no that you have been a fantastic reviewer and I am very grateful and appreciative of you.

[@jointy]

Lunar Lake is a no brainer, by far the best option for Windows. Also, I used to think Copilot is junk, but it's creeping into my workflow: coding, emails, marketing content...

[@mxd5273]

64 GB RAM would have been great though...

[@JeanPierreWhite]

Excellent video. Best Buy occasionally have great deals on Intel Ultra 7 laptops. Picked up an HP with 16 GB Ram, 1TB ssd and Ultra 7 processor for $550 open box. In great shape.

[@terrencemoore8739]

I discovered at the beginning of the year that I dont need a laptop. Its geeat in theory but the time i spend computing away from my desk or job is 0. So gaming PC made perfect sense. Computer + Games. I can remote into my computer if i really need to access it while on the go

[@Tombstonecross]

If I don't need games, a MacBook will save money in electricity costs.

[@terrencemoore8739]

@Tombstonecross maybe, depends. You probably don't need a powerful computer if you don't game so you could get a cheap mini with a weak processor.

[@fran2911]

@@terrencemoore8739 There are so many jobs where you need a capable CPU, working with large datasets, virtualization, container orchestration, 3d modelling or editing, music production, I'd say that it's most jobs that require a pc that aren't just boring email jobs.. there's a million counterarguments like you can get a minipc with a high-end portable CPU, my point is that there are many edge cases, you might be aware, this is more of a comment for people who are undecided or are just new to hardware requirements, not trying to start anything. Also if you don't have a beefy GPU or a GPU at all, electricity costs are almost negligable, specially if it's for work. @Tombstonecross .

[@blisphul8084]

That's true. You can do practically anything from your phone these days. The only laptop I use these days is my work laptop, and I do have a steam deck as well.

[@nomanoma856]

Extremely valuable and incredibly helpful, thank you! 💪🏽

[@BrokenArrowX]

About the Windows battery drain issue when in Standby- Microsoft actually pushed a fix for this in the latest preview update for Windows 11, so in a few weeks from now this might finally be addressed for good

[@mindcet.]

Only took them decades lol

[@wlcrutch]

Something Apple figured out 15 years ago…

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

​@@wlcrutcharm snapdragon chips already showed it was x86 fault not Microsoft's 😂

[@owengee7415]

@@kirby21-xz4rx yeah thats why the snapdragon laptop in this video was 2x worse than the mac

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

@@owengee7415 I'm talking about screen off time and drain and battery drain in general 💀 in fact I agree with you and I'm actually proving your point to people that apple was right to choose arm over x86 years ago and got away from crappy intel for their computers so people know that, arm architecture is the future we need in both efficiency and battery life so that way every time people don't blame Microsoft when in fact its Intel's own fault, I say let them burn along with x86 😂👍

[@einat1622]

Very functional & down to earth. You're one of the rare, older KZbinrs that still offer it.

[@kompassorpigo7600]

8:12 simply not true. Zen 4 is still amazing and a huge leap from i7 and the likes. Fast, efficient, great battery life, and the iGPU is almost as good as this year's. You get all that for as little as a third of what the shiny new thing costs. I'm disappointed with the blatant misinformation, Dave. Are you just saying this for publicity?

[@AriyoAP]

Thaank you dave. This enlighten me up. 👏🏼👏🏼

[@ZGameWar]

The Truth about all laptops , if you don't have a true use for laptop don't buy one. Pc or tablet for most peopel use .

[@iiisaac1312]

The price being too high is a real stinger as if the rest of the industry were to ditch x86 for ARM, then all these expensive x86 laptops are just gonna be expensive unsupported devices. Honestly, the switch probably won't make too much of a difference for battery life because IMO reason why Apple's chips are doing so good is because they developed their chips on a top shelf bleeding edge node and their developers are an order of magnitude more competent than the people at Microsoft. We have also gotten used to cheap laptops. If we look at the laptops of 10 years ago, we could have gotten an Acer with a Haswell i5 and a GT 840M for 550. Go back 20+ years to the XP era, you are looking at Pentium laptops for about 1200, and that was back then when Moore's law still had a little bite to it and things became outdated much quicker.

[@dne-q9s]

Dave, even the MacBook Air is coming with 16GB memory... Apple is eating someone else's lunch 😂😊

[@ensarija]

7:45 yeah, me 😢 I bought used flagship notebook for 600$ I watch your videos and think like "in 5 years, you gonna be mine" 😂

[@Mugiwaraluffey]

Gonna wait another 5 years if chips are getting even better

[@ujjwal7502]

I'll just wait for my next life

[@pranze3484]

I agree. Holding on my 5700U some more time until this stuff gets affordable. Battery life has become really great on linux since kernel 6.5 or so anyway.

[@akashsxo]

3:10 Absolutely, that's why i just install Linux

[@sportbikeguy9875]

Yesss. But to be fair, Linux isn't known for it's great laptop battery life lol. Linux is more popular on servers, and that's where the bulk of the development goes.... That being said, I have great results running Debian 12 stable

[@_reZ]

If you have good battery drivers... I'm still trying to get mint on my framework 13 (Intel 1360p) to not come out of practically not sleeping, as when I close the lid it sometimes just runs the processor full tilt (calculating something ig??) and drains battery + is hot to the touch

[@sikertsok225]

​​@@_reZMy personal experience is with Lenovos mainly Thinkpads and they are awesome on Linux. The thing you really need is a system that supports S3 sleep. Windows modern standby is S0 sleep is garbage and is killing the x86 laptop.

[@raphi72]

The HP Elitebook 845 for less than $900 is a pretty good option. 16GB RAM, 1TB disk

[@JinMizushima]

Loving my macbook air m3. And you are right mostly as a regular user i was just browing the web most of the time and occasionally typing and video editing for tiktok

[@davitdavid7165]

For high level cpus i think 24 should be the minimum, 8 gigs for the igpu

[@tonybowen455]

M2 with 16gb ram on sale for 750 in the US is so nice. I'm looking forward to snapdragon in a few years.

[@Tommy_205]

1:08 laptype😐😶

[@Nadzap]

your mom is my laptype

[@rafidka_]

I bet this will be the top comment.

[@Tommy_205]

@@rafidka_ hell yeah😂😂😂

[@revirdkcalb]

I saw this comment come up as he said it lmfao

[@semvoet]

@@revirdkcalbthat’s new YT feature

[@jonathanyang812]

you and a few other content creators are the only one who recognize the snapdragons as not compatible with all software and its a big red flag for those that dont mention it, thank you, ill sub just because of that. I also appreciate you taking in the consideration of those who don't want to pay next gen prices and usually go for last gen stuff. My only problem now is that I been using window OS my entire life and would prefer not to use a macbook. So i guess it's worth it to get next gen laptops.

[@WhiskyCardinalWes]

I have zero desire to buy a new laptop. Between Win11's upcoming Recall, and not actually being able to use these new wunderchips to game a quarter of my games, I'll hang onto my year old Lenovo Legion.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Why don't you try Linux? It lacks Recall and doesn't have spyware and adware baked into the OS like Windows 11 and isn't Windows Vista 2.0 like macOS is. I've been using Linux for about the amount of time Windows 11 was out as my only OS, and unless you need something Windows exclusive, it's really good.

[@WhiskyCardinalWes]

@@cameronbosch1213 I've been thinking about going Linux for the last couple of months. A local mom & pop PC repair shop is a big Linux supporter so I'm thinking about using my 2017 Razer Blade Pro to dip my toe into that pool and use them as my tech support, lol.

[@Marauder-q2v]

just switch to windows 10 ltsc with mass gravel. You'll have updates until 2032

[@ContraVsGigi]

​@@WhiskyCardinalWesIf you don't have some special software needs, you'll love a modern Linux.

[@WhiskyCardinalWes]

@@ContraVsGigi My only requirement is that I'm able to play all the games in my Steam library.

[@Steven-nz3rv]

I agree with this 10000%. Power efficiency is more important than anything. We wanted devices that LAST longer and longer. Currently the power is good enough for most people (but there obviously will be people who needed more power). But most importantly power efficiency

[@changez77654]

Looks like this was recorded last week - Apple now offers M4 chips and 16GB ram

[@semperfitygaming5619]

I thought so too but it was edited as of last night at 1:17 there’s footage from last nights World Series game. Could have added something to acknowledge Apple’s RAM change

[@S3XYEV]

😂 You have to love 💕 the dedication! Dave rolls out of bed 🛏️, doesn’t even fix his hair, and gets right to recording videos! 😅

[@natekmoyenuddinrobi3966]

i love how the 'gaming' tag gimmick is about to disappear on these devices. more price, no efficiency, 3-4 hours backup, huge looking aggressive designs and those bad rtx mobile gpus TATA.

[@ogBravo1]

Need that pov on copilot Dave!

[@petehboy2]

Where ya been? We're tankin here

[@TFabrizio]

As a matter of curiosity, would you advise the average user to get a Chromebook?

[@theharesbreath]

6:49 - here in New Zealand there's exactly one laptop (Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Aura edition) that's got the Core Ultra Series 2 chip available. Even the Series 1 Core Ultra chips are difficult to find

[@everettwinterlast]

Can't wait to watch your hopefully upcoming video on what the best windows laptop is for $1000 - $2000. I think most people including me prioritize macbook level longevity & reliability.

[@bt7348]

I am daily driving Macbook Air M1 8GB and Rog Ally Z1 Extreme for gaming. These are 2 of the best deals right now.

[@jeffeisley]

6:12 jc, did you match the ICC color profiles of both laptops? Apple's is desaturated by default

[@siriusbizniss]

Dave 2 D out here saving people from regrets. Meanwhile MKBHD trying to finesse his audience. 😒

[@RP-16]

Mkbhd trying to milk his brand before he slowly quits

[@NIkVasilatos]

Thank for making this video exactly 10.00 minutes.

[@lchanceiv]

I love how the M4 chips are require 16 gigs on the MacBook now.

[@muhammadtalhabinzia]

Finally a reviewer who don't forget the masses. The Maxs the Ultras are for 0.1% the rest of us don't need them.

[@DarayaVahu]

1:52 Intel longer battery life than apple? 😱

[@ohokcool]

Literally what laptop, I want it

[@CEOofUranus]

He was using yoga slim7i 2:50

[@valacascrane9156]

Awesome content. Thanks for your work!

[@KuruGDI]

For me a soldered on RAM chip is a deal breaker. If the RAM can not be upgraded it is not considered for purchase.

[@zemiguel2550]

it can, you just have to pay more ahah

[@artemrakov]

amazing. you are so customer oriented! bravo!

[@simplicity8480]

As someone who games on their laptop, I feel like the conclusion in this video didn’t really do much for me. It felt like it needed an asterisk of if you do anything other than wanting to play games, then go with a MacBook. As for the laptop market on the windows side, The mobile battery life argument has always been an interesting one to me because while having a long battery life is awesome, I’ve rarely ran into a situation where I needed to be untethered from an outlet for more than 3-5 hours of work. Documents or otherwise. Primarily because my primary use for my laptop is gaming and being unplugged on any system is a bit of a meme performance wise. I don’t know if you ever tried to play Path of Exile on a MacBook but it used to kill my M1 Max in around 3 hours unplugged

[@G6_SA]

"New chips from Intel that don't suck" cracked me up. Lol.

[@Darx97]

video aged like milk

[@dilawardurrani123]

Always an enthusiastic, neutral and useful analysis. The way you explain stuff is just so simple and brilliant at the same time.

[@tawanda5034]

8:55 I feel attacked. I got a 13th gen i7 5 months ago and I do kinda regret it. For now it's good enough but I just know it's gonna age like milk and usually I like to keep my laptops for a good 4/5 years

[@ganeshperiwal2705]

I feel the same, recently got a i5 13th gen laptop.

[@jidofole]

🤪

[@alb9022]

Unusually long video for Dave... yet he still crammed so much info in under 10 mins!

[@pelaozoom]

Not having at least one RAM slot for upgrades should be illegal.

[@arnavdurani9962]

dave, this is exactly the video i've been looking for. it tells me precisely what i want to know

[@VatsalGada]

I think apple removed 8gb variants yesterday

[@tikkin11]

My 6 yr old HP Envy just bit the dust, forcing to me to evaluate new laptops. You are spot on in the assessment that the price to play (intelligently) is $1300 to $1500. I have not heard any other reviewer speak this so clearly as you did here. Thankyou! And yes, "Copilot" is right there with 3D tv...marketing gibberish.

[@malintha123]

Thanks Dave, a really good message you put out there!

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

Ah, the M1 MacBook Air strikes again. I've heard that laptop come up in more than a few reviews as a high-water mark for Apple. I have one myself and can't seem to part ways with it (even though I have an M3 Max 16")

[@mikemcmike6427]

I bought an air and returned it. Not that it wasn’t amazing but I multitask so needed a bigger screen.

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

@@mikemcmike6427 That's it's only real weakness - that screen. And even that isn't horrible.

[@mikemcmike6427]

@@AllgoodthingsTv ya I mean it’s appeal is portability and now they have the 15inch. I bought it when it was only the 13inch. And managed to get a 16’ M1 Pro used for a great deal had I’d ever since so I’m more than happy

[@Watch4Me]

Lifetime windows user, bought a macbookbairc13 16/256 2 months ago. I immediately replaced my desktop with a m2 Mac mini. I still prefer Windows but the battery life and stability of the Mac is a winner. Dave's point about the budget option is spot on.

[@GaryBeilby]

I will balance the fact that I got an M1 Macbook Pro beast2-3 years ago and it still feels so brand new super fast - with the fact that I just bought a mid/high end creator windows laptop for my work. So wish I had of known new low power Intel chips were just around the corner 😭