Mach E Update And Goodbye After 10,000 Miles

It's time to bid farewell to our 2021 Ford Mustang Mach E after a year. How has it held u? How much range has it lost? (spoiler alert, not much) and what are my main likes and dislikes as we prepare for the next long-term vehicle? Let's find out!

[@zero11010]

About sales and MSRP - I recently read about Ford threatening franchise dealers with penalties for damaging the Ford brand with severe mark ups. This is huge and I hope more manufacturers follow.

[@aluciusd1337]

unfortunately this only applies to the F150 Lightning. They still marking it up with the Mach E without repercussions.

[@CaptDnaDonut]

@@aluciusd1337 I think this is true. That being said my local dealership that I ordered my Mach-E from hasn't got a new one in months. They only have GTs and they're marked up around 15K.

[@proprich5586]

30k markup on a GT performance at the ford dealership near me.

[@spl1011]

It's lip service. Ford won't do anything, can't do anything, and in their memo they were equal at being anti-consumer also.

[@sicilianr1]

The solution is simple, don’t pay over sticker. I just bought a new Santa Cruz for 2k under sticker. Stop paying over sticker or even sticker. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@phil4986]

It is amazing to see that Ford actually took the time to put the GPS active charger utility in the car. The fact that is updates itself and guides you around problem charging stations instead of sending you there is actually priceless. Because your time is priceless. Well done, Ford. I hope for Ford brings out a small entry level four-seater EV with a decent range. But all things considered, this is a damn impressive first start for Ford.

[@mikemallery913]

Holy moly - 140 mile range with the heater on. Someone up north is would surely die while stranded.

[@inrirodriguez9755]

Dealer tech here: in Oct 2021 the CEO said that they were delaying the rollout of the OTA update for Blue Cruise for early adopters to Quarter 1 of 2022 so that they could work on simplifying the OTA process. On Jan 27 they sent out a notice to dealers saying the OTA update would start rolling out and there are two options for download. One is OTA, where the updates will occur in the background while the customer is driving, BUT some updates will require the vehicle to be shut off to download. It might take several WEEKS once OTA updates start before Blue Cruise is fully functional. The other option is complementary software download at the dealership, which is estimated to take between 2 to 8 HOURS with a dealer computer. Obviously this is a huge update. Either way, once Blue Cruise is activated and functioning, early adopters are getting 1 year of complementary Blue Cruise service. Here's the thing, the 2021 F150 is also part of the Blue Cruise program. All 2021 Raptors were built with the Blue Cruise hardware as part of the Raptor trim level. On Jan 27 they also announced that late in software development, they found that the off road suspension and capability of the Raptor didn't work with Blue Cruise to their standard. For unsold vehicles they're sending a updated window sticker that reflects a $750 reduction in price. For sold vehicles they're going to reach out to customers and give them a $750 refund. All other early adopter F150s aren't affected, so if the truck has the hardware, the OTA update will be sent out to the truck. The awkward part is the Raptors will still have the hardware (like the IR camera that watches your eyes) which will sit unused and Blue Cruise just won't be activated. Not sure if the OTA delay for early adopters was really because they were simplifying the OTA update process or tinkering with the Raptor and trying to make it work before deciding it wasn't going to happen, or both. I'm guessing both.

[@craighermle7727]

Ford is going to love having to call OTA OS updates RECALLS which is the bs they're pulling with Tesla

[@FragEightyfive]

"Raptor didn't work with Blue Cruise to their standard" sounds like lawyer speak for "there is a safety issue". Maybe it comes down to the Raptor's setup needing custom tuning and they don't want to maintain a separate branch for that vehicle. Could even be they found the hardware isn't configured properly for it.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

@@FragEightyfive Baseless conspiracy theories.

[@mackpntr]

My blue cruise definitely works

[@jeffmelodia2077]

Nice focused channel Alex. With your excellent communication skills and review techniques I expect this to be a big winner.

[@SteveBirkett]

Great to hear you're still so happy with the Mach-E a year in. The nav for charging is such an oversight for many manufacturers. Only Ford and Tesla really seem to bake that into the native system properly so far.

[@mcar6592]

Excellent and informative. I like the speed of speech. Lots of information, no interruptions. Good diction and precision speaking.

[@mjw1955]

Not with a gun to my head, a knife to my throat, or any in other form of coercion will I EVER acknowledge this car as a Mustang.

[@gipnor]

How about with a $12,500 federal rebate?

[@Mklpz000]

3:24 The purpose of the front is to absorb a front impact. You have crush zoned on the frame. So yes, it's very much necessary.

[@thewaterboy2013]

We have had our Mach-E since June and have 19k miles now. The single biggest thing I would share that Alex touched on is that in cold weather expect up to 50% range loss. The other big pain point is our center screen needs to be rebooted probably 2/5 times we start the car. Not sure if this is cold weather related or not.

[@parkerlarsen5858]

Interesting, I'm in cold weather as well and am considering buying one

[@thewaterboy2013]

@@parkerlarsen5858 things that help: being able to plug in when vehicle isn't in use, having a warm garage. We are in northern Wisconsin so we saw temps as low as -20 f this winter. It always starts though! :) Only really a concern if you do what we do which is regularly drive across the state. Make sure you have viable chargers along the way to likely destinations in the winter that are say 80 miles away or more.

[@thebricker]

I have had the GT for 6 months in Norway. It does lose some range, but I wouldn't go so far as 50%. Never had an issue with the screen. Maybe Trondheim, Norway isn't as cold as Wisconsin ... -20F is about -28 Celcius so that's quite chilly. We don't get that low numbers but for the inland or the northern areas.

[@N7_Maric]

So I have a Jan. 2021 built MachE and I have the higher charging curve and no issues getting OTA. I've had 4 (maybe 5) OTAs. I'm on the current software build. The only thing I'm missing is to be able to open the frunk from the Phone app. I've been very happy with my car.

[@stangmatt66]

Same here

[@erichchan3]

I completely disagree with the charging port being in the front being convenient. I think it is a huge pain in the ass for the charging port in the front because not everyone's garage extends into the home and it makes it weird when I have to unload stuff from my trunk. That means in my case I would have to unload the groceries first and then have to start the car and reverse and back into my garage in order to charge my car for the night. I would much rather have cables that extend to the back of the car so that when I park in my garage, I can just charge and not have to worry about the front. I would much rather have the charging port on the rear side to avoid this issue and I am sure most people would much rather prefer that method.

[@russelljacob7955]

A side note for frunks on this older vid: It is does make excellent crash protection. In a front end damage, it avoids damage to the EV system because the frunk is where damage occurs, improving repairability.

[@gordonmacqueen8694]

Thanks for addressing the heat pump - that's a major consideration here in the north.

[@bobk3840]

I have an 885 mile trip to the Smoky Mtns. coming up this fall. There is no way I want to stop twice just to recharge batteries. Wouldn’t touch this car.

[@Noah_E]

I endorse the tire swap 100%. My F350 has a recommended tire pressure of 75 PSI front, 80 PSI rear, which is simply too high for daily use. Even while towing 5 tons of trailer and tractor it's like driving on beach balls. I don't understand where Ford came up with those numbers, because 60 PSI is my preference and I have never had uneven wear or issues with heat build up or sidewall flex/roll.

[@georgepelton5645]

Long hoods provide more crush area to absorb energy in a front end collision. I prefer a long hood with frunk vs. a short hood.

[@Sylvan_dB]

While true, it probably makes little difference. most of the frontal crush area is relatively small sections of the frame rails. In a traditional front engine vehicle most of that length is to provide enough distance to prevent the engine from going thru the dash (and folding it under the vehicle if possible). Without that large, solid chunk of metal up front the crush area increases dramatically even tho the distance seems much smaller.

[@EVBuyersGuide]

It makes little difference if the frunk is full of objects that don’t crush well

[@skepticalmechanic]

Rear end collision 💥?

[@derbagger22]

You could have 20ft of area in the front. If it's open space, that doesn't help anything...

[@georgepelton5645]

@@EVBuyersGuide I guess if I were to carry engine blocks or other large metal objects they would not crush well. Personally, my frunk is usually empty. The things I do carry there, takeout food, groceries, or suitcases, all crush just fine if I were in a collision.

[@flashoflight8160]

You talk fast and there is no fluff. Love your presentation style. Not a minute wasted. I have a 2013 PHEV Fusion and that battery will outlast the car. After a long 9 years and over 180K miles, it is still 12 miles out of 21 miles in the EV battery when new thanks to Ford not letting us use all of the battery. It's not a great car compared to modern vehicles, but it still runs good overall and I'm keeping it til it dies.

[@ohger1]

That is almost half range lost. I guess the Fusion doesn't have active heating and cooling for the battery pack.

[@scorpy2643]

Ford has 100% let the early buyers down. Those that waited even 6 months to buy have more features, better features, and more frequent updates. Early buyers have been punished for being eager. Especially so for the ones that have the “can’t receive updates” problem. Ford knows what hardware needs replaced to fix the problem, and has for months. They refuse to fix the hardware and have Instead made those buyers wait for another attempt at a software update. It’s a real shame. It’s a great car, looks good, and drives well. Fords engineers can’t seem to deliver on the software/firmware side.

[@Sylvan_dB]

I would bet that the engineers are simply not allowed to deliver. Ford is not prioritizing correctly in order to do software OTA updates. Management there is likely stuck in their traditional ways of "we already have their money, it is more important to work on new cars" and do not understand how the world has changed. Or perhaps the official Ford messaging is simply not true.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

@@Sylvan_dB No it's true they 100% update every thing as they do it on Gas mustangs all the time...

[@Sylvan_dB]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough What new features did they promise on your gas mustang and then successfully deliver months later with an update?

[@mikesmith1702]

why would you expect anything different from Ford?

[@leebr2010]

@@Sylvan_dB I think it's more like, we don't have any software engineers working on this, or not nearly enough. Ford infotainment, like many other legacy makers, is done by integrating 3rd party design and software. Tesla, however, is a vertical integration company and does all everything from the ground up. Much like Apple, who can push out software updates whenever they want.

[@jasonbone7939]

This was a great review. I have owed one for just over a year and agree with your statements. I am interested in performing the tire upgrade you mentioned.

[@OfficialNintendo]

Markups are insane. I’ve been looking and the GTs are typically 15-20k over. I had a dealer try to sell me a select base model no options for 60k 😂 I’m just gonna go for another brand. Volvo is doing 5k under msrp. I can put up with 3 years of a hybrid instead of paying 15k over for a car with limited features.

[@jeffbrooker5183]

Thank you as always for all the information. It does help so much in trying to make the correct best informed decision.

[@JonathanEzor]

Those with Mach-Es (mine's in chip hold after being built) have said that, if you precondition (not just remote start) your Mach-E while charging, it will warm the battery and you'll lose less range for winter.

[@CoreyWoodcox]

this is true, and it’s one of my gripes with Ford for this. why in the world do i need to remote “start” my EV? why can’t i just manually start a precondition cycle? i would love for it to let me hit that button, and tell me how long it will take to be ready in current conditions, instead of just starting up and “running” for 15/30 minutes

[@matthewkaplan4311]

I have submitted feedback asking for the Ford Pass app to be able to adjust the settings for the Climate control module thru the app. To me it just makes sense rather then letting the computer use preset configurations.

[@jqderrick]

Very cool video. Very well done. Nice Job. Really informative and I appreciate the work you put into it.

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

I sold mine for MSRP. I did NOT want to go through the windshield/roof recalls. With the tax credit I came out ahead by approximately $1800.

[@EVBuyersGuide]

Score!

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

@@EVBuyersGuide I sold it to AutoNation. They beat Carvana, Vroom and all other local dealerships. I had a check in about 45 minutes.

[@mikesmith1702]

smart. you know garbage when you see it.

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

@@mikesmith1702 Seriously, grow up!

[@42crazyguy]

Incredibly depressing that people are actually buying this thing.

[@aharquail]

Well done as always! Providing such thorough information all the time.

[@jeffers.n]

The most expensive version (I’m assuming is the GT) needs to be the luxury one. I don’t like the cheap door handle alternatives. They need to have door handles that go inside the door. Also I feel like the sunroof should open. It also needs 300 miles of range. Other than that I see no issues with this car.

[@awesomeferret]

Wait... My 3000 dollar Bonneville has a sunroof that opens, but the 80k Mustang doesn't? I'm both surprised and not surprised at all. Yep, I don't need to get a different car for at least another decade. I have too many features that modern and expensive cars don't have! 😂

[@MatthewManzella]

I love this vehicle and have tested it to its max. Snowy conditions, driving from NY to California and back... Very pleased overall

[@RyanWilliams222]

But have you done any barrel rolls? 🤔

[@scottjentsch]

Great rundown of your experiences without the cultish devotion that would either have you tend to glorify the Mach-E or denigrate it in service to brand loyalty for another EV maker! I've been following reviews of the Mach-E since test driving a Premium 4EX last summer, and yours have been consistently the most informative. This video makes me feel better about not succumbing to the high degree of interest that I had after my test drive and watching countless videos on this and other EVs. I'm old enough to be patient, and my gut was telling me that it's a bad idea to buy the first generation of any new model (or significant overhaul of an existing model). That seems to have been very wise in retrospect because of the growing pains that early buyers are facing and how many changes have already come to the later models. In time, I'm sure the software updates will be normalized, but we live in a society where software is updated regularly and it's made us an impatient lot. I don't recall having an issue with the tires on my test drive, but with so much new and just a few hours of seat time, there's only so much to notice. I didn't take it canyon-carving or for an autocross event, so I didn't stress the grip of the tires like others have. While I didn't find the ride at all harsh, I have to admit to really wanting the Magneride suspension just for that extra level of adjustability in the suspension. I don't need all the other things that come with the GT Performance Edition, so the tremendous bump in price cannot be justified. In my mind, this vehicle is a great family version of a Mustang. The "not a Mustang" crowd needs to remember that not all Mustangs have been GTs and Shelby models. Not everyone wants that, and not everyone needs that for a vehicle they want to use every day. Perhaps the criticisms of those that want everything, want it cheap, and want it now will persuade Ford to keep paying attention and improve their operations. Tesla didn't come out of the gates with vehicles at the level of quality and performance that they exhibit today, so patience is key. It will be interesting to watch how Ford supports the vehicles that have already been sold, and how it handles the improvements that they should make to future models. It will also be interesting to see if/how the 300-pound gorilla reacts over time!

[@hillandrewdavid]

We took delivery of our 2021 Mach E December 2021. We have full Blue Cruise capability. It's no where near Tesla autopilot, but works fairly well in high density traffic situations, and it's totally hands free. We have received OTA updates for Blue Cruise in the last couple weeks as well. I'm not sure why your 2021 still doesn't have Blue Cruise....it's definitely available.

[@FuncleChuck]

botched Updates are a Classic Ford Problem. I had a ‘16 Mustang that didn’t ship with CarPlay but it was promised, and did get it as an update… but only for certain USB ports so I had to remove my center console and replace the USB port and then update the software, and the OTA failed so I needed to use a USB drive or go to a dealer.

[@_ckr]

Informative review, articulate reviewer, and excellent audio. Thank you and subscribed!

[@joeisawesome540]

I was hoping Mach E would be an affordable E-SUV, but in Canada, it is very expensive. Base model cost over 60k for AWD. If you factor in taxes it is over 71k for the base AWD model. No incentive is available.

[@spacebound1969]

Canada has too many damn taxes.

[@joeisawesome540]

@@spacebound1969 the car goes up to luxury tax territory which is why it is very expensive. Not to say it is not expensive to begin with. However, we are very happy with the ID.4 Pro AWD we bought. it wasn't as pricy.

[@silvertbird1]

Excellent review. I’ve been curious about this vehicle, even though I bought a 2020 Mustang Ecoboost. I learned quite a bit, although for the foreseeable future I’ll stay with the regular Mustang.

[@dmandman9]

In all reality, I think they’re aimed at different audiences. I think Ford used the Mustang as the inspiration and mainly used the name to create attention. But the Mach E seems to be aimed at the person who wants the speed of a Mustang, but for whom the Mustang is no longer practical because he may have children or may regularly ride passengers. Perhaps a person who would otherwise get an Edge but wants something that sits a little lower.

[@bl8danjil]

@@dmandman9 So they aimed this Mach E at wannabe people? Nah, the target market would buy an Escape or Bronco Sport if they came out as an EV, the Mustang name wouldn't influence them. They share the same platform albeit modified anyway, so not many would be able to tell any performance differences. This vehicle just doesn't know what it wants to be, it's a crossover trying to masquerade as a Mustang but failed at it. Attaching the Mustang name to it just tells me Ford did not have confidence in their electric vehicle technology so they attached the Mustang name to try and salvage it. When they said we were getting an electric Mustang, people thought we getting a 2 door sports car that would go up against the Tesla Model S. It being a crossover was a large disappointment and largely written off as such. It was only that highly modified Mach E that some builder created that generated the first positive news for it, but that one shared very little with the production Mach E. And only the GT that brought in the performance people were expecting.

[@dmandman9]

@@bl8danjil They’re selling all they can produce and are actually selling more of them than the “real” Mustang. I’m not a fan of them putting the Mustang name on it. But it’s selling. This vehicle is more likely to share an audience with the Model Y. That’s who everyone is comparing it to. As for performance, Fords regular Mustang GT is the one they look to for performance as well. So it was always expected that the Mach E GT would be the performance model. It’s Ford’s first serious effort at an EV. So I believe things will only improve from here.

[@bl8danjil]

@@dmandman9 It was the only ev from Ford. If they only sold one type of vehicle obviously that vehicle is going to "sell." Or if they only sold black cars, they could say black cars are selling out. There is just nothing to compare it to in their lineup, which is funny because the Escape and Bronco Sport ride on the same platform. I know who they were trying to compete with. It was obvious it was the model Y. That was not my point. They could have slapped the Escape name or Bronco Sport name on it and they would have sold just as many. If they had made an actual electric sports car, not a crossover, Mustang they would have satisfied the Mustang fans too. Instead they got dunked on at launch.

[@dmandman9]

@@bl8danjil If I’m not mistaken , there is an EV Mustang in the works. By the way, it’s NOT in ANY way related to the Escape/Bronco sport. 1. It’s primarily rear wheel drive with all wheel drive optional. The Escape is fwd, The Bronco Sport is all wheel drive but front wheel biased. 2. The Mach e front suspension is virtually the same as the Regular Mustang. I looked underneath. Its basically an extended Mustang chassis wise modified for an electric motor between the wheels. Much like a stretch limo. I didn’t realize it until I went the the Mustang Training class and the instructor showed us a few things. Again, totally different from the Escape/Bronco. As for the ridicule, part of the reason for the name sharing was indeed to create the “buzz” . People started talking that normally wouldn’t. Free publicity. Then people drove it and found even the base version was faster than most versions of the current Mustang. Yes, it’s a crossover. No, it’s not marketed at the same demographic as the regular Mustang. Ford has one thing in mind: sell it. A couple version would NOT have sold as many because people simply don’t buy that many coupes. Coupes are a niche market. So they wanted to make it closer to mainstream If the only complaint against this vehicle is the wrong name, that’s no big deal. Most simply call it the Mach E anyway. . In a few years it’ll probably be officially named the Mach e. And a real Coupe will likely be called the Mustang. That’s just my prediction. Again, the Escape Bronco sport have NOTHING in common with the Mach e platform. Whoever said that gave you some misinformation. The Bronco sport, escape and MAVERICK share the same platform.

[@Magicinstalls]

Alex one thing I don’t think you have considered is what is under that compartment that prevents the frunk from being full size. There’s probably mechanical equipment that prevents that space from being used. Just something to consider…

[@bytemark6508]

Tesla Model 3 owner here, I have to admit the Mach E was on the shopping list for me but decided against when the base price model was either unavaliable or "upgraded" to go beyond my budget, that is, if I was willing to wait on the delivery. I had to get back to Model 3 RWD and, while I don't have as much space, it'll do. As for the "frunk" I generally use that to get my hot smelly takeout from restaurants. I never noticed that when I had the old ICE car, the "new car" smell is quickly getting away within a few weeks, and the cabin starts filling up with burned oil particulates, especially in winter, when the windows must stay closed. We are getting used to it and our noses ignore it, but the lungs will feel that for sure, and the brain too (for the missing oxygen in the air). After more than a year my EV still smells fresh inside, which is simpy amazing, and placing smelly stuff in the frunk, I keep the bad odours out.

[@JAMESWUERTELE]

Missing oxygen? Oil particles?

[@bytemark6508]

@@JAMESWUERTELE I suppose you know that when there is not enough oxygen in the air, the brain doesn't function in the same way (medical term "cerebral hypoxia"). Also, the air filters and oil filters in the car are not 100% efficient in stopping the impurities. The internal combustion engine, generally in front in the car, will still give a big smell, notably because, and I quote " Although commuters typically spend only 5.5% of their time in vehicles, the emissions from various interior components of motor vehicles as well as emissions from exhaust fumes carried by ventilation supply air are significant sources of harmful air pollutants that could lead to unhealthy human exposure due to their high concentrations inside vehicles' cabins" this from a study published a couple of years ago in Sage Journals.

[@jetsamperes5762]

Only took about a minute before the flashing turn signal forced me to seek out a small piece of electrical tape to put on the screen - the same fix I used for the flashing 12:00 on my VCR.

[@Miata822]

Good summation of your experience. It is hard to see this as anything but a glowing endorsement of the Mach E. I don't have one, a test drive convinced me it was simply bigger than I wanted. I prefer a car sized car for personal use, rather than one trying to be an SUV. Nevertheless, I am very pleased to see this historic American company changing direction to embrace EV technology with such a quality and effective product.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Car sized car? The mach E is not much bigger then a gas mustang or a land yatch like a Rolls or old Cadies.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Also good luck getting any small that's quality besides the MX-30 as my 2020 Gas mustang is like a foot smaller then my 2002 Suberban...

[@Miata822]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I have a Lucid Air GT on order. It is spacious inside without having that SUV feel.

[@trent7080]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough it's actually smaller than the regular Mustang

[@mrsentinel6815]

My brother just bought a Bronco l, after he let me me drive it man I'm sticking with gas car for as long as fossil fuels are around. Sorry but there's just something about hearing the roar of the engine/exhaust while being able to change gears yourself it's just awesome. I know in the future everything will be electric but as long as oil doesn't run out, I'm sticking to internal combustion

[@Cocoatreat]

I’m sure you will have that option to stay……I’ve been told that the mach e can make some sounds like an engine……. I have been driving an EV for 5 yrs now……..i do like the quiet….. in late may my Tesla LRMY arrived……i was shocked that after driving my car once….a coworker put in an order for one…..he also test drove many different EVs …….last week…..he just couldn’t wait for his performance MY ….so he opted for the mustang Mach e……..he & his wife are very happy….. i do like the interior and the ride….. it has a cushiness that my Tesla doesn’t have……when i drove his Mach e…..i found it to be quite nice & soft……it drives like an ice car (to me) with the one pedal setting….. i find my MY to be more grippy & exciting to drive……..overall i think the Mach E is a great option for those wanting an EV! Its just a shame at how the dealers are making so many markups

[@rcud1]

Not a Mustang. Ford sold almost 2M cars in US in 2021, but only 27k of these Mach E's. Overall about 1.4% of their sales. They have a long long way to go to get high production and more affordable EV's.

[@MeToo804]

In an EV with high nickel based chemistries you are not supposed to routinely charge above 80% and must leave at least 10% charge to ensure that the pack last longer. That’s 30% gone. So available range is not really 264 miles. It is 264 x 70% = 185 miles or 295 kilometres. Secondly this much range may not suitable for people living in the North with extreme cold temperatures. A battery pack can loose up to 40% of its range if parked in the open. If you add both of these two conditions together IMHO an EV is not yet ready for colder climates.

[@dmandman9]

That’s built into the software. When the cars shows 0%, there’s actually 10% battery left. Likewise, when the car shows 100%, there’s still about 10% capacity left. So the range is accurate. It will not ALLOW you to empty or overcharge the battery.

[@geraltofrivian516]

Alex, thank you for posting this, very informative

[@edm3184]

I didn't realize you had this channel until I saw on your main - subbed! All this EV talk pretty much convinced me to wait another 5 years before I consider one. I have a F150 Tremor, and I originally reserved a Lightning. I have since cancelled the reservation- they are simply not ready yet.

[@EVBuyersGuide]

Welcome aboard!

[@andymoses419]

I have been driving an EV for 5 years and I can tell you its the best experience with a car I have ever had. These are great cars. I would have taken your reservation!!

[@devinself2104]

EVs aren't for everybody and won't be for quite some time unfortunately. Battery technology still needs improved for improved range, charge times and expected lifespan. The next biggest requirement is cost vs. ICE.

[@heathwirt8919]

Great detailed review Alex, must say I'm impressed with this first effort by Ford into the EV market. Thank you for another interesting and informative video.

[@xxFireFox86xx]

The rear doors don't have a handle because when Ford tested it out, people would open the door without using the handle and would typically grab it up by the button instead of on the body.

[@JA-no8in]

Been waiting to see how you've felt about it. My build is still without an ETA for the production, let alone delivery after 6+ months, so it's been enjoyable to watch your thoughts. At least I've got an M240i Xdrive in production!

[@jerrymixon9209]

Nice review. We received our 2023 Model Y LR in March and we love the driving experience and the regenerative breaking But here a few things we have experienced: - No sun screen on the roof. We live in Texas and all the other cars we have owned have one and its a must have for our hot summers - No instrument screen in front of the driver. I don't care for "you will get use to it", if you have to shift your head and eyes off the road it's not a good thing. Tesla puts them on the Model S and X. Its just a cost cutting measure. - Its nice that when you turn on your blinker an image pops up on the screen for the right or left side of the car. Only problem is, who looks right to make a left turn? They should also have a blind spot light on the exterior mirror like all other cars. - Since we ordered the white seats they also gave us the white door and dash trim. We get a lot of glare from it, I rather have the wood. And tan seats for that matter. - No Apple Car play, I knew it when we order it, but we use different apps on our iPhone's, pads, TVs and stereo equipment. So streaming it from our phone is a poor substitution. As an example is when I are streaming something from my iPhone and the Nav system announces turning directions, it does not pause the streaming media just speaks over it. Because you are streaming, you have to use your phone to make changes. Not even Tesla can match the resources of Apple or Google to update the software or the number of applications. Leave the infotainment to Apple and Google. - The phone as a key doesn't work ten or fifteen percent of the time. I ordered a key fob to see if it can work better. - On a recent 250 mile trip using the adaptive cruse control (Autopilot) I had the phantom breaking five or six times. I tried it with and without lane keeping. Real pain. I agree with the comment, just give me a door handle. All these gimmicks for door handle add cost and do give you any improved function. The next few years are really going to be interesting. New battery chemistry, shorter recharge times, and more competition to drive down prices and improve the creature comfort of the cars.

[@sentryion3106]

This has to be the most comprehensive and truthful list from a Tesla user. The refresh 3 and y is going to be even more annoying since somehow they decide a screen on the back is more important than one in front on the dash and they are removing the stalks too. Still a great and efficient drivetrain with better tech integration but you do give up a lot of traditional creature comfort for those

[@kdawgmaster]

through my research i've come to understand that the Mach-e, just like most EV's, require cold weather conditioning before driving. Now because the Mach-E doesnt have a heat pump, as you mentioned, it does require a longer condition cycle. If you condition the car properly, by using the options in the car to schedule when you plan on driving, the range lose in the cold and winter isnt nearly as bad. I would also say that an important thing you forgot to mention is that with the Mach-e, if you use the ford nav, it will pre condition the battery to have it prepared for charging as well. This doesnt happen when you are using android auto or apple car play.

[@jzman6330]

Too small for a family. What ticked me off the most was the dealership. They wanted $70,000 for a low end. Walked out, next day I schedule a test drive with Tesla Model Y. They let me take it for 30 min with no one with you. The same day I placed an order and 3 months later my 07StangGT OG clutch sits in my garage with battery cables disconnected. Love my Model Y, besides I don’t trust the public charging system. I drive from El Paso TX to our company in Odessa TX and it’s a blast of a drive.

[@Annette_Hons]

How has the piano black trim on the outside of the car held up especially around the wheel wells, etc.?

[@lfhao7969]

Good point on the back door easy-to-be-scrached. my ring definitly will screach it when I grab...

[@GlitterGuru]

3:05 A large front trunk also reveals how well packaged and integrated the components are. For example Tesla's octo-valve and integrated systems mean there's more room for a trunk.

[@EVBuyersGuide]

The Tesla Model Y and Mach E have almost identical distances from the firewall to the bumper but the Mach E has a larger front trunk. The Octobvalve is mainly marketing, the same functions can be packaged just about as efficiently without it as Ford has proved..

[@tomk537]

It’s wild how people to see front trunks as exclusively “better packaging” and not a choice of where to allocate the additional space - it’s fine if you prefer front truck - I like the Ioniq 5 providing more passenger space - a design choice not a definitive evidence of better engineering in my opinion

[@seanz6586]

@@EVBuyersGuide you say that the octovalve is simply just “marketing”? Wow. Not what Sandy Munro says. You are certainly wrong here.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

@@seanz6586 And because Sandy says it, it must be true? How is it that every other EV company performs the same function without branding the valve setup they use?

[@devinself2104]

@@seanz6586 Tesla guilty of overhyped marketing!? I don't believe it!

[@odisy64]

MachE battery buffer is too big, 10kwh being walled off sounds bad when you realize a tesla will lose around 7-8kwh of capacity after 200,000 miles according to data compiled by drivers but still manage to have 30-20 miles left at 0% charge.

[@ilikewater666]

Thanks for the detailed review! I just got a Bolt EV but this was really helpful for me to see the differences. I'm guessing the price difference makes the Bolt EUV not a competitor but I found it surprising that the EUV has combined leg room of 83.4 inches, more than every other car in the list. Bolt EUV 2nd row headroom is a little tighter though beating only the Niro EV and the Model 3.

[@StreetPreacherr]

I still don't understand why Ford insisted on naming this vehicle a 'Mustang'? Were they THAT concerned it wouldn't get enough attention if they just gave it a new model name? Did they really not think it would be successful if they had just named it the 'Ford Mach-E'? I would have figured they'd actually be more concerned about 'tarnishing' the 'Mustang' name by using it on an 'SUV' platform rather than a 'sports car'?

[@zymmer4]

I will be a looker at one when I can charge it anywhere I am for less than 10 minutes..The batteries are extremely toxic to build and dispose of..Greeen?? Not by a long shot. We have a lot of time left with gasoline..Hydrogen is a much better option for reduction of pollution into our atmosphere..Much Better ! I will wait for a hydrogen powered new car.

[@paddle_shift]

Never understood the bigger wheel and tires fad. Gee, I love tires that blow out whenever i hit the smallest pebble.

[@awesomeferret]

*bigger wheels, smaller tires. If it was what you actually wrote, then there wouldn't be an issue.

[@paddle_shift]

@@awesomeferret if you had wrote "bigger wheels, smaller tires, then there would be an issue" there wouldn't be an issue.

[@jbbevan]

I am 24K miles into mine. I have had no issues and lost no range. However, all EV's have a digital (computer) foundation...which means they are inherently binary...so automotively they either work or they don't. There's no limping to the gas station. So if "the system is down" it's down all the way. The problem is that tow truck companies are not up to speed on "helping" an EV that is "down". All tow trucks must be flat beds. They should all be equipped with DCFC charging capability, but typically they have none at all. Personally, I've never run out of juice (though I've driven EV's over 100K miles). But "any" real breakdown (ceasing to operate) is going to be highly frustrating...if or when it happens. So far in 100K miles (3 cars) this has not happened...but the potential is certainly there.

[@GriffXJ]

I initially got annoyed when I heard Ford limited the access to the full battery, but after thinking about it...it makes a ton of sense. You can charge this vehicle to 90%-100% every time and not have to worry about depleting your battery's lifespan. Almost every other EV manufacturer suggests only charging to 100% if doing something like a road trip, and otherwise just charge to 80% for normal use and nightly charging

[@EVBuyersGuide]

Exactly. Although it is worth noting that most companies (Tesla excepted) walls off at least 5% of the battery, Tesla walls off some but it’s a small percentage

[@VitalVampyr]

It's a great for normal use. I do wish they'd have a mode that let you charge the battery fully if you need a bit more range though.

[@tomk537]

Thank you Alex for talking about how a frunk is kind of legacy of ICE cars profile - I also like the Ioniq 5 and EV6 giving that space to passengers - though still love Mach E

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Alex nice to have all the EV's in on channel, love the channel and good luck!

[@marryellen7713]

I just remember one major problem with my Mustang Mach -E. the outside mirrors are not worth the glass they have. I normally set my mirrors to jst see my side of the my car. All others car mirrors I see cars along side of me. So I don't change lanes and cause an accident. NOT the mustang mirrors. Several time i did not see a car along side of me. I needed to drastically move the mirrors out. But for me I lose perspective of depth of view.

[@TheJHMAN1]

Ford appears to want to kill the Mustang brand. It is just another SUV, as a Vehicle it may be fine but its not what anyone expects of the Mustang name.

[@Topper-gf8xl]

Thanks for the long term review. We went to a couple EV events and were able to try out the Mach E, Toyota BZ4X, EV6, Lucid and XC40. I had put the Mach E very low on my list, but came away impressed. What we kind of didn't like was the "tacked" on iPad and the panorama roof. I think I can live with the iPad and I see you addressed the roof. Seems counterintuitive to have a source of excessive heat and then rely on the a/c to compensate for it drawing dependent electrons. We still need to look at the Ioniq 5, our #1 and the Ariya, #2, but now the Ford is #3.

[@tstan6827]

Great review, Alex. I just found this channel, after enjoying your other channel. I would be very impressed if Ford could actually deliver on their "100,000 more in 2022" promise. Seeing how they have been idling their plants left and right, lately. Current as of this comment, 8 plants idle and 3 with only a single shift.

[@generalzod7959]

not likely. the chip shortages have greatly impacted every brand.

[@StreakingTiger]

The longer I watched this review of the Mach-E, the more I appreciate my little 2022 Bolt EV 2LT. I won't go into details too much, but I like my Range better and my regular door handles. I don't need a Frunk as I can get everything I ever need in the back. I don't need it to go any faster as I worry about speeding tickets already. After 5700 miles, the ONLY thing I see as a negative is the longer charging times for really long trips (greater than 150 miles one-way). Glad that Ford is trying, but I'm not tied to any single automaker. This is the first Chevrolet (or Ford) since the 70's for me. I have been driving for 58 years and my Bolt is the absolute easiest vehicle I have ever driven. And it was incredibly CHEAP (like THOUSANDS cheaper than anything comparable). No - my Bolt does NOT handle like the sports cars that I have owned for years, but it is still awesome. I hate that GM is abandoning it.

[@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.]

Must be sad to see it go with that short list of nitpicks. Waiting forever for my order to actually be put into production and Ford just halted the factory due to chip shortage again. Perfect by no means I loved it on my test drive and the wait is killing me.

[@markf8256]

In my market, there are none on the sales floor and orders have up to a 1-year wait, made worse by the continued chip shortage.

[@Tom-cn4cm]

I'd recommend the Model Y instead. It's a better investment.

[@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.]

@@Tom-cn4cm Yeah, less car for more money lol.

[@gipnor]

The factory is taking a siesta.

[@thecursed01]

charger in the left side makes sense for UK, stupid for right side driving. when you park your car parallel to the road you always have to pull the cable across the hood.

[@JayyEVee]

How about an i4 M50 next for review? On paper it has a slight edge on the Mach E Performance, but real life can be different. Be curious to see such a comparison. The E Perf loaded easily hits the same purchase cost as i4 M50's (which start 'loaded' as is), so they are in the ball park for a lot of comparisons to be done?

[@MrRaitzi]

It is a great car. Amazing to drive. Way to low ground clearance however for my use. Battery sticks out like half way on bottom. Nothing else to complaing. Price also good.

[@Jaahhhnnnn]

While I'm not totally convinced by the extra price of my 2021 MME GT, I am super happy it actually shipped with BlueCruise and I've been able to use it for the last 8 or so months (since I got it in early November). I would be very upset with Ford if I wasn't able to use BlueCruise on the MME Premium I nearly bought. One of the big features that the MME is supposed to have.

[@chrisperry3525]

Having been a ford person most of my car owning life the Mach-e was very tempting we bought last summer, but went more tried and true with a Y. Happy with the car, the tech is wonderful. The ride is too rough. Winter range...SUCKS. I often see 1% drop per mile of driving...in 15F type weather. So that's what, 60 miles if you keep it between 20% and 80%...not sure if this is the same for all EVs, and ours lives outside for now. Flip side is not spending $200/month on gas (aka fuel), so that's good. There are not chargers where you need chargers...that affects all EVs and should get better with time. An interstate trip is no worry, but take a day trip into the country/rural areas and even smaller towns and you find range anxiety is real.

[@nicholasthon973]

Pre-warm your vehicle if it’s on a charger before you leave, that will keep you from leaving with a cold battery and give significantly improved range.

[@chrisperry3525]

@@nicholasthon973 that's what I do. In 15f I get about 1 mile for every 1%

[@Steinegal]

@@chrisperry3525 the initial drop is usually quite high in cold weather as the car heats its battery and cabin (even if you preheat for 30 minutes) if you drive for an hour consumption will dropp and you will be able to get more than 60 miles out of 60%. Also on longer trips you should not be afraid to hit 10% before charging unless the weather is really bad. I have 7 years and 200 000miles behind me in a Model S in Norther Norway with winter temperatures down to -35C/-31F and have driven way longer than 60 miles even in my old P85+

[@unclekarl388]

Just ride the bus:)

[@vargr]

Looks nothing like a Mustang, that is a deal killer to me. The long recharge time helps kill the deal, I drive long miles daily, a gas/diesel engine is the way to go. The lack of personal maintenance, the lack of a metal key, the shear cost of this toy compared to its lack of range totally kills ever owning a electric toy. Sorry, electric vehicles are for in town use only.

[@dmandman9]

They DO come with a regular key. You don’t have to use the phone if you don’t want to. And although An EV is not practical for everyone, if you drive less than 200 miles/day, you’ll NEVER have to worry about charging time unless you’re on a road trip because you can charge at home every night . It may not suit your needs. But it’s very useful for many. At the moment, initial cost is higher. But operating costs are much lower. Very little routine maintenance is needed. No oil changes ever. And charging at home cost MUCH less than gasoline even at 2.00/gallon. If you can’t charge at home, it might not be a goo choice for now. But if you can, I think it’s worth considering

[@vargr]

@@dmandman9 you do know most power grids will not stand up to a lot of electric toy cars charging up, right? They are less practical than a bicycle in winter time.

[@dmandman9]

@@vargr time will tell. I believe the grid will be strengthened as the cars come on board. But I’m not simply going to oppose them just because I can. Again, time will tell. But they’re a good alternative for some and far more than a toy. We have to do something different than we’re doing.? both types of vehicles can coexist in the near term. And people can get what works best for them

[@megaroeny]

So excited this channel exists! Can you share a link to your tires? Are they strictly summer tires or All-season?

[@jeffreywong6842]

"Real Mustang that got stung by a bee"... good one Alex!

[@RichardinNC1]

Nice review. I think the Mach-E is the best non Tesla EV out there but a ton of new options coming out now. I still have an issue adding an hour of stops to a 350 mile trip. Even though that's not every day (up to 3-5 times a year for me), unless you can always charge at home it definitely adds to trip time. PS: I drive through WV which is well behind CA and other states in charging infrastructure.

[@JustMe99999]

You could always just rent an ICE car for your infrequent long trips.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

The charging experience in the Mach-E is excellent and very Tesla-like when using Electrify America, and frustrating on the VW ID.4, which is ironic considering that EA was set up as a result of Volkswagen's doing (diesel-gate)!

[@ismaelcarrillo3956]

Tesla-like? You have definitely not owned a Tesla

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

@@ismaelcarrillo3956 Eh? You pull up, plug in and the car communicates with the charger, just like at a Tesla Supercharger.

[@spencer4733]

@@JustWasted3HoursHere I see charging as a weakness for non-Tesla cars. Electrify America averages between 3-5 stalls per station. As EVs become more popular, the EA stations will have long wait times. Tesla stations have a minimum of 8 stalls but more commonly 12. In the case of the I5 corridor, Tesla has almost three times more stations. 3 stations have 50+ stalls, 1 with 40, the rest have 8-30 stalls each. Tesla is also building an additional 40, 50, and 80 stall station on the same corridor. Tesla is committed to add more stations as needed and properly maintain them unlike EA.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

@@spencer4733 Well for sure Tesla saw, right from the beginning, that charging infrastructure was going to be task number one for making Teslas appealing to the public, and it didn't hurt that early Teslas got "Supercharging for life" (don't know if that's still a thing or not). They have massively poured resources into expanding that infrastructure worldwide and are only increasing that. I drive a non-Tesla EV, a 2016 Kia Soul EV+, and for me it's no issue because I do 95% of my charging at home with only the very occasional stop at an outside DC fast charger, and only to get enough charge to either get me to my destination or home. EV adoption is going to be the hardest for people who don't have access to a home charger, in my opinion, because that's the most convenient and cheapest option (I pay about 10 cents per KW).

[@peterrijs]

The Mach-E , at least mine, is a very uncomfortable vehicle. The climate system just can't keep up with cold air leaking into the vehicle from every possible opening in the dash. Dealer seems not to be able or unwilling to fix this. Ford (Netherlands) does not respond to that complaint by email. Would not recommend the car to anyone.

[@dmandman9]

If I lived in a extra cold area, it might bother me. But I live in an area where we only have a few below freezing days. Even then it’s rare to drop below 20F.

[@vdelrio999]

Great video, info, comparisons, and rapid delivery. Time stamps would be cherry on top.

[@bman6502]

Here’s what I don’t like; no ac plug in cabin.. no 12v plug in front trunk… no sun shade for roof… seats do not cool.. front passenger seat is complete manual adjustments..only 1 usb port in front.. rear seats don’t heat……. If you’re going to call this a luxury vehicle, then you have to have the options I just listed…

[@almohndes9]

Excellent review as usual , only small suggestion is to make the channel logo on the lower left hand side a bit smaller as it's taking a bit too much of the screen .

[@EVBuyersGuide]

It will shrink in future, we needed it to cover the logos on the graphic set we're borrowing from Alex On Autos LOL

[@courtney5796]

i know it would have added to the cost but another 5" wider (or 3 1/2' wider and 1 1/2" shorter) would have done wonders for the look and some heritage.

[@rays2306]

The heat pump issue is a deal breaker. I'm tired of having to bundle up like an eskimo on cold days. I am definitely not keeping my mach e when the lease is up.

[@ChangingTheHorizon]

you were using the rear door wrong, you don't have to grab the door, you grab by the release button to open, there is a rubber grip inside that you use, after a year I am surprised you didn't realize that unfortunately

[@robt8159]

We bought my wife’s Mach E California Route 1 Edition in Sept 2021 and it came with Blue Cruise. Not sure why yours doesn’t yet have it.

[@AutoBuyersGuidePodcast]

Ford has not said why, but very early adopters cannot get that software update

[@barryoppenheim1994]

Alex - great job - BUT - one huge question: You mentioned that your range is approximately 265 miles. However - in this video, the center screen showed you were getting 2.7 mi/kwh. If that's so - your range would be approximately 240 miles. So - can you please explain? Thanks - and keep up the great work!

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Range is dependant on a wide variety of things, the trip computer shown was after mountain climbing so the consumption rate was higher.

[@barryoppenheim1994]

Alex…I appreciate your reply, but the video shows that you’ve traveled over 9,000 miles (trip B), with 2.7 mi/kWh. Right?

[@EdwardCheek]

Having the hazard lights on really makes this video special. Innovative, epic, sheer genius!!

[@vermontsownboy6957]

I drove two upper trim version of the Mach E. It's a competent vehicle. I wasn't wowed. A month later I did get to drive a Model Y for the weekend, and despite already high expectations, the Model Y completely and totally blew me away. Mine arrives in a few weeks or so. The worst part of the Tesla experience so far is the wait to actually receive the vehicle.

[@shawn_hu]

which part of model y totally blew you away? I feel pretty borning to see tesla model y on the road now days feels like yota rav4

[@timyarrow8844]

@@shawn_hu It's a fun-driving super-smart computer on wheels. Drive it if you want. Or let the autopilot drive you. I've seen FSD Beta in action, and know what's coming. The entire experience is surreal. EVs are automobile 2.0 The Tesla's are coming close to automobile 3.0. Impossible to describe. Drive it and you'll see. There are EVs. Then there are Teslas.

[@devinself2104]

@@shawn_hu Do you also own Tesla stock?

[@JoeHeisler]

I’m wondering why more EVs aren’t supporting the dash cam features that tesla has. It’s super annoying seeing that Korea gets those features in their cars but they don’t bring the features overseas.

[@Sonicaceman]

I’ll be interested when I can get an awd one of these for around 35 Wishful thinking on my part though My interest is peaked and idc about the Mustang name and I do like the styling and size and hatchback like versatility. I’m going to give it a couple years and hopefully they come down a little on price and figure out some of the quirks but it’s a great start

[@byutennismenace]

We love our Mach-E!

[@CMCNestT]

Overall, looks like Ford is doing a good job.

[@Robert-bv7of]

Can’t love either door handles in front or back seats

[@JSchroederee]

A long hood does allow for crumple zones making it safer (if designed properly) in an accident than an extremely stubby front end

[@stangmatt66]

Mustang Mach-Es built before July 2021 can have their DCFC charge curve updated at the dealer for 45 kw 80-95% SoC, instead of “falling off a cliff”. Ask for CSP 21P22.

[@EVBuyersGuide]

Yep, sadly it isn’t an OTA yet

[@dmandman9]

@@EVBuyersGuide unfortunate. But for most people a trip to the dealership is only a minor inconvenience since they were used to going to a dealership or other facility routinely. They SHOULD offer it OTA. But even if they don’t, one trip to the dealer isn’t that big of a deal if you want the update now vs waiting.

[@Sirg17x]

Devil's advocate take. Don't longer front ends help with safety in Headon collisions? More material to discharge the impact and such.

[@munkymind]

Wow. I really appreciate the thoroughness and honesty of this video. i will likely subscribe when your content on this channel increases. This was the first time I heard about the EV6/Ioniq5/ID4 deficiencies in routing for charging on longer range drives. That's huge, IMO. I wonder how many people are unaware of that. It's not an issue if the car is going to be used as a local commuter but it would be a deal breaker for me.

[@jghall00]

It's not really that big a deal unless you rely solely on the vehicle nav. ABRP and plugshare can provide charger locations and nav data. Once you have a handle on the highway range of the vehicle you can plot a course.

[@munkymind]

@@jghall00 Yeah. I thought about that after I commented. From what I've seen, Tesla's software does a better job providing more info. I recently watched a video on the state of the non-Tesla charging infrastructure. That's also a significant concern for me.

[@jghall00]

@@munkymind My understanding is that Tesla is really good about providing consumption, range, and charge time info, in part because Tesla has its own network and has so much data on charging infrastructure. Ford seems to be doing ok in this regard; VW and the others have aways to go. Which is strange since VW owns EA. Hopefully everyone gets their kinks worked out. Many drivers are not technical and just want to get in and go.

[@stephendoherty1275]

Great, thorough job sir. Thank you.

[@markjordan4994]

When I can fully charge the battery in 10 minutes or less, I'll consider an EV. Until that time, not interested.

[@tslegers]

I have a 2021 GTPE, and my only complaint is the radio presets randomly reset for no apparent reason. Very annoying. Actually, I have 2 complaints, the 2nd being the navigation is poor and I hate that it constantly says to go to the carpool lane.