No point being the devil to prove god doesn't exist.
@nestorrivera71392 ай бұрын
Good one .. somethings I disagree but others I agree
@haplon33 Жыл бұрын
“Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me.” ― Michael Scott
@Mutiny960 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people know this is a joke from "The Office" and how many are dumb enough to believe it's actually good advice LMAO.
@ThihaLinn-b9c Жыл бұрын
It is actually a good advice. Machiavelli himself said the best ruler is someone who is feared and loved at the same time.
@60wwediva Жыл бұрын
@MutinyVT it doesn't matter if it's from a TV show. Many people should feel that way and there are people who do. I'd say Donald Trump and Michael Jackson are 2 highly influential people that at one point or another people were afraid of how much they loved them if anything media is afraid of how much these 2 people are loved.
@CoolAdam247 Жыл бұрын
@@60wwediva MJ was a Pedoh
@saturnianrings3920 Жыл бұрын
I want them to love how much they fear me. (They all have a fear kink, and pay me well to scare them)
@lucasportasio Жыл бұрын
I read Machiavelli as a teen, what i took from it was mostly "if you gon be bad you better be the best at it"
@MrRahibzz Жыл бұрын
So are you?
@lucasportasio Жыл бұрын
@@MrRahibzz Fuck no, the boat may well be halfway under water and im the guy with the bucket, but reading Machiavelli made me have a lot more empathy for tyrants and bad people in general... The worse you are the worse you have to be, its a vicious cycle they cant get out of
@MrRahibzz Жыл бұрын
@@lucasportasio nobody forced them to bad in the first place though. If you need people to be empathetic for, it should always be the ones who are preyed upon by the machiavellians.
@lucasportasio Жыл бұрын
@@MrRahibzz of course i empathize with the victims, but to become machiavellian one is almost always a victim themselves. Even poor Machiavelli got tortured before he made the book, and his outlook makes a lot more sense if you know he was desilusioned and defeated when he made it
@r3tardsheep420 Жыл бұрын
@@lucasportasio I also belive that the true way of empathy is to also understand that nobody is born evil and they just lost their battles too many times to think that somebody is going to forgive them
@patrickfiorito Жыл бұрын
One of the most profound books I've ever read. And to correct people's incorrect assumption. Machiavelli wasn't evil. He wrote about the strategies he observed people in power used to achieve and retain power. It's what he observed.
@poloska9471 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much an addition to the study of the human nature, something one should pursue to understand oneself throughout life
@unboxinganything2498 Жыл бұрын
What's the books name
@patrickfiorito Жыл бұрын
@@unboxinganything2498 The Prince
@giuseppegalardi697 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’d say that it is the author of this video’s fault: he wants to transmit a sensation of evil/sociopaty. Complitely wron, my god. Incredible. This video is a shame
@archstanton_live Жыл бұрын
The first time I read The Prince I thought Machiavelli was the devil in the flesh. The more I thought about it and re-read it, the more I came to realize that everyone should be exposed to the political evils that Machiavelli described so that they would be wise to them and avoid being tricked by them. Clearly Trump is a student of Machiavelli.
@kurobarauchiha Жыл бұрын
Just so you know, there are high school teachers using this video in their classrooms to talk about Machiavelli. You're doing AMAZING work for it to have reached the classroom :)
@BenjamUniverse Жыл бұрын
That’s unfortunate and lazy of the teachers
@sharongillesp11 ай бұрын
Completely agree. I wouldn’t use the book, but I’d refer to various ideas that young people might seek to emulate the bad behavior and then discuss the possibilities of off-setting evil in the world. Students need to UNDERSTAND human nature. . . the good, bad, ugly and most importantly the beauty of human nature. Books like this, with regard to young people, should be read one-on-one, (parent/child) or in small groups so they can truly understand the repercussions.. . and not just to themselves but how these behaviors affects the whole world.
@ayeshaimranx11 ай бұрын
@@sharongillespany other books or videos you can recommend to understand the basic philosophies? It’ll be really helpful :)
@kahfre369410 ай бұрын
So teaching kids how to lie and manipulate their way to the top, is a good thing nowadays? Makes me nauseous.
@annaconda7610 ай бұрын
😆@@BenjamUniverse
@davidmedina58111 ай бұрын
“Machiavelli wasn’t very Machiavellian” that took me out 😂
@drekilly68195 ай бұрын
Reminds me of that joke about Fuzzy Wuzzy the bear
@goosewithagibus Жыл бұрын
I've never met a horse that knew so much about philosophy, let alone horses. Nice work.
@noisepuppet Жыл бұрын
Like Mr. Ed, but it's Higher Ed
@atomictraveller Жыл бұрын
you're not a marine
@shlaps9161 Жыл бұрын
its actually multiple horses which is arguably more impressive
@benk4088 Жыл бұрын
You’ve clearly never met a Houyhnhnm
@11lvr11 Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha my favorite comment
@martiniontherocks Жыл бұрын
“Life is not knights on horseback. It’s a number on a piece of paper. It’s a fight for a knife in the mud” -Logan Roy
@blissseeker4719 Жыл бұрын
Does it have to be? No, it doesn't
@milesbenish8372 Жыл бұрын
Oh fuck off! I'm kidding that's just a thing he says
@KevinJohnson-cv2no Жыл бұрын
@@blissseeker4719 Yes, it does. Existence is a war of all against all; everything competes for supremacy, even the most infinitesimal organisms. The law of strong forces subjugating weak forces is a fundamental aspect of reality, and will always express itself in some way, shape or form. The Iron Law of Oligarchy should be a great starting point of research for you to come to terms with how unavoidable this aspect of the world is.
@syrekongen982 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinJohnson-cv2noThis is true... but the definition of supremacy is subjective. One society may hold family values supreme while another may hold economic superiority as supreme.
@robertcarter385 Жыл бұрын
Show is mid
@catfein9827 Жыл бұрын
Easier to avoid wolves if you know how they’re hunting.
@augustgremaud2738 Жыл бұрын
Well put. Be good but be ready and be wary.
@mangopussi9432 Жыл бұрын
don t compare a wolf with a piece of crap. that creature hunts to eat. it does kill for pleasure like these scumbags.
@michaelq92 Жыл бұрын
Easiest to hunt with two wolves.
@seanwieland9763 Жыл бұрын
lol, imagine preferring to be a prey animal.
@pivomanslovensko Жыл бұрын
@@seanwieland9763Okay mr."communism was the most violent and destructive ideology in history".
@Ruby_Sterling10 ай бұрын
I don’t see Machiavelli as evil, I see his views as a how-to navigate an evil world.
@damarfausan820710 ай бұрын
Years after his death, the things that were so called evil way became a usual thing in the modern political world.....
@dalodulo137310 ай бұрын
@damarfausan8207 Just because something is normalized doesn't make it not evil.
@grantbrewer32709 ай бұрын
How is it not evil to choose to do things he himself thought we’re not admirable or just. I think he is kind of a coward because he sees the way people are unjust and has no hope to change it, he instead chooses to be really good at being evil
@TREBLEBOOSTER659 ай бұрын
Good insight. Still evil but just has been normalized unfortunately but you are right about it becoming regular and accepted now@@damarfausan8207
@TheCrayonMan5299 ай бұрын
@@grantbrewer3270 It's about living in reality rather than fantasy. The reality is people are unjust, and always will be regardless of what people teach or train. It's human nature. He rejected Christianity or religion as it failed to convince people enough to be just and righteous. In the end, if everyone is going to be unjust, understand it and do it strategically.
@ayda2876 Жыл бұрын
I always find it so interesting how some people can write or paint incredible things while alive and nobody cares but then once they're gone people finally realize how interesting these things were. I just feel sad for all these people who never had any recognition while they were alive
@sintwo0one11 ай бұрын
It’s called the “Jew Hustle”.
@Starkk-ic9cj9 ай бұрын
Ik I’m late but this is actually an interesting topic that I don’t think gets talk about a lot. Your definitely right, have any suggestions why that might be ?
@ayda28769 ай бұрын
schopenhauer, nietzsche, pessoa ect@@Starkk-ic9cj
@robans7029 ай бұрын
@@Starkk-ic9cjI gave this topic alot of thought over the years, Only thing i can think of , is talented people are usually not understood nor are they liked but once there dead the threat is over and now you can learn someone with no hate because u feel like youve lived longer and its all good! Strange metaphor!
@prodbysaint7777 ай бұрын
@@robans702 I think its more about innovation, and like said in the video, if tou do X Y and Z you can succeed, but if you do it on a different day maybe you will fail. Sometimes, the world isn't ready for innovation. Like Van Gogh, or Machiavelli, who showed works of art or presented philosophies, they were ignored or even ostracised. Remember that in Van Gogh's time, Post-Impressionism wasn't cared a lot because of the Fine Arts and standards for beautiful paintings, like Neo-Classic, which was seen as beautiful. In Machiavellis time, Church and Christianism was a heavy topic in politics, and society. It was innovation at the wrong time in history. Thats why its so appreciated after a few years!
@Kestrel-777 Жыл бұрын
The way I see it, Machiavelli's philosophy is amoral rather than immoral. He's saying: "Here's the best way to act in politics, if you deviate from this by being execsively kind or cruel then you will inevitably run into trouble". Whether this should be followed or how closely seems to be left to the reader.
@KevinJohnson-cv2no Жыл бұрын
Actually he doesn't advise against excessive cruelty, and even praises the likes of those he views as tyrants who relied upon it, such as Septimius Severus; who cemented Rome's military autocracy and famously treated the citizens like trash, but kept the soldiers paid & thus held power through brute force. He does state some crucial things that a ruler should not do to avoid a full on insurrection; but aside from that handful of things, cruelty is almost always the best & swiftest option. Also, I do think the writings hold weight, his statements can be verified by simply observing the behavior and actions of any capable ruler throughout history. Power has never been a moral game. It's not moral when The Lion snaps the neck of the weak gazelle between his mighty jaws, so why would it be now?
@augustgremaud2738 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no well said. I think it’s worth noting that Machiavelli’s predator-prey analogy isn’t perfect, because animals aren’t self-aware enough to be moral actors. But, that’s more a nitpick than a strong critique.
@darillus1 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no so he's a realist
@wren_. Жыл бұрын
he’s also laying out the cards for the his readers so they can see when and how they are being tricked by politicians
@novkorova2774 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinJohnson-cv2noHe absolutely advises agaisn't excess cruelty. That is why it is called excess cruelty, and not moderate cruelty, or a good ammount of cruelty or even more than enpugh cruelty.
@brodiegerritse8589 Жыл бұрын
So happy your channel has been growing so much recently, you deserve it man.
@datboi8005 Жыл бұрын
Ikr man, I’ve been here since 10k
@TimZoet Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@BehindtheCurtain Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@noahwilson8549 Жыл бұрын
@@datboi8005same! Shit found like a gold mine when I hit it.
@foragegrasspause2gotoloop961 Жыл бұрын
Was telling a friend I'd love to find a new video essay channel, and my friend told me, "oh, you gotta check out horses, he's been blowing up lately" Happy to be one of those newbies!
@thedevilluis Жыл бұрын
'Everyone sees what you appear to be, few experience who you truly are.'
@blvckAveli4 ай бұрын
That is fucking beautiful
@BoatsandHeauxsАй бұрын
This has always been my fav quote. I remember it as “few feel who you truly are.”
@MafyeuxАй бұрын
We are three things; That which we show others, That which we show ourselves, and That which we do not even show ourselves. - paraphrase of Carl Jung
@heady569 Жыл бұрын
Keep going, take breaks, don’t burn out ❤️. Great vibe, great synthesis, thank you!
@xtremememestv1717 Жыл бұрын
bless you for supporting a great creator and bless you, horses! ❤️
@ohgeazy Жыл бұрын
@@xtremememestv1717blud donated $5 lol
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@AYVYN Жыл бұрын
“Unless you have been led to commit yourself by writing, your denial will go as far as their assertion. Shun writing, therefore, for there is nothing so damning as a girl screenshotting your message.” - Machiavelli
@michelleobamagaming5937 Жыл бұрын
"deese niguhs dono who they fckn wit" - Abrahama Lincoln, Gettysburg Address, 1863.
@greedyweeb8368 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@miss_liberty_8 Жыл бұрын
*Don't Commit Professional/✍️Artsy Suicide!*
@yisumisu899510 ай бұрын
now i’m screenshotting your message
@AYVYN10 ай бұрын
@@yisumisu8995 Many have
@universe1879 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting to note that it is possible that Machiavelli wrote the book not as a guide but more like a warning for people for “this is how tyrants act”
@sahajblatt3025 Жыл бұрын
I believe it was that plus self analysis He was clearly cluster B Probably psychopath However that does not instantly make him evil, or even malicious. Many psychopaths do not wish to do evil things, some even try to educate others about their condition. I feel this may be that
@bachtran957 Жыл бұрын
Nah, as far as I know, this book was a gift to Lorenzo Di Piero De’ Medici - the ruler of Florence. "The prince" was most likely a guide book.
@tobias8721 Жыл бұрын
@@bachtran957 I have also read Machiavelli was not on good standing with the De' Medici's and perhaps wrote 'the prince' as to mock them, similar powerful families/people and the way they act.
@tobias8721 Жыл бұрын
@@bachtran957 A sort of satire if you will.
@perhaps1094 Жыл бұрын
@@sahajblatt3025 On what basis are you calling him a psychopath?
@Syntopikon Жыл бұрын
Excellent so far. Keep up the phenomenal work. This has quickly become one of my favorite channels.
@HorsesOnYT Жыл бұрын
Ty ❤️❤️❤️
@riversguy92 Жыл бұрын
Gotta second this, every word and sentiment. Excellent channel, so many varied and interesting subjects. Aesthetically beautiful too
@joeb11115 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how you keep consistently putting out some of the best video-essays on the platform... once a week! Fantastic work, yet again.
@theboythatdid2495 Жыл бұрын
Have you watched nerd writer? This guy's stuff seems completely "inspired" by that channel.
@Mood-xb7yv Жыл бұрын
@@theboythatdid2495 i cant see the resemblance to be honest. its just how video essays generally are lmao.
@imawaffle148 Жыл бұрын
This would be a great video if it was accurate. Machiavelli was nothing like how he was portrayed here. Machiavelli was a diplomat and an ardent lover of republics. The Prince was less a dictator's handbook and more a sarcastic job application. Machiavelli's Discourses on Livy are far, far more representative on his actual beliefs.
@brakeme19 ай бұрын
When I first read “the prince” i couldn’t believe the amount of information one could learn from a little book.
@jeffdishong48532 ай бұрын
“The Prince” truly is a great book well packed! But I must be honest here and tell you my favorite book is actually called “The Little Prince “ strangely enough , it teaches quite much in a small pack as well!
@ConstantinBoca Жыл бұрын
i just want to take a moment to appreciate this man's work on the graphics and how the tales were visualised with pictures and fine texting
@bashthekash6603 Жыл бұрын
name says horses but this channel is the goat
@Emil-yd1ge Жыл бұрын
😅
@bittu2507 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@PySimpleGUI Жыл бұрын
When I reached the end I was struck with the thought..."The WRITING!"... which was quickly replaced by "The RESEARCH!"... then "The ART!".... Carl Jung woven in plus a touch of self-disclosure. Genius.... these are masterpieces you're creating. Keep going!
@HorsesOnYT Жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️ ty!
@playboismoovz9236 Жыл бұрын
@HorsesOnYT damn.. ppl send you money and you can't even write a full sentence of gratitude lol "TY".. how about "thank you" at the very least next time
@JAYoo747 Жыл бұрын
@@playboismoovz9236 come on man a horse cannot type he is clearlly typing with his 2 toes yk
@shelbymclaren6490 Жыл бұрын
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@maximiliankegley-oyola9288 ай бұрын
@@JAYoo747Bwahahahahahaha😂
@simonockas Жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no idea how you manage to produce such high quality content in terms of both research, writing, visuals, and editing, but I'm here for it. These video essays are on such high level, it's still unbelievable that they're not produced by a whole team of people. Keep up the good work.
@HorsesOnYT Жыл бұрын
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@chrisheist652 Жыл бұрын
The work of an individual can easily surpass that of any group, for it has the optimal governance structure. - chris heist
@HiddenLibraryworld-j2rКүн бұрын
This video is so thought-provoking! Machiavelli's insights challenge us to think differently about leadership and power-being strategic like a wolf among sheep is a reminder that sometimes boldness and cunning are necessary to thrive. Great content!
@zabadmoth4282 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful and well structured! I really enjoyed the argumentative parts. Plese, don't stop on making these videos. They're like a delightful cup of tea!❤
@sadfrog2575 Жыл бұрын
You should do audiobooks. I love your calming voice. Also love the videos. I just found you recently, but these videos help me process stuff sometimes and I appreciate that. Keep up the good work man 👍
@geg754 Жыл бұрын
I know right
@chironzx Жыл бұрын
I use these videos as audiobooks anyway, so I would love a longer format that I can listen to while work
@renex_g3915 Жыл бұрын
@@chironzxhis videos can be enjoyed with video or just audio, it's such a great channel
@chironzx Жыл бұрын
@@renex_g3915 Ever since his channel popped into my recommendation (I watch a lot of video essays. I'm sure we all do tbh) I've just been binging his videos
@jrphdboy24 Жыл бұрын
Very easy listen I agree
@renex_g3915 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is destined to be one of the big players in the video-essay community. And your essays are about things that people should need to know in my opinion, there are plenty videos of 2 hours analyzing spongebob history but not a lot about philosophy, history, nature, politics, geography, economics, etc... and if they are, they are not as entertaining as you make them. Your videos are 10/10 almost all the time, I always feel like I learned new things with your content and some of my recent readings are influenced by the themes in your videos. Keep doing this great work dude! ❤
@HorsesOnYT Жыл бұрын
Ty! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@lotuseater7247 Жыл бұрын
There's tons of videos on those topics. The problem is that to really engage in any of them, you need to read an actual book or research paper, because unless it's a recording of a lecture, KZbin doesn't provide adequate means.
@renex_g3915 Жыл бұрын
@@lotuseater7247 that's why this channel is great. It takes those topics and adapt them to a youtube audience
@retro-ronin Жыл бұрын
It's so good to see your channel growing in such big steps, because the quality of your videos and your in-depth analysis really do deserve it. Best of wishes, brother.
@alang.2054 Жыл бұрын
Can you guys stop adding these useless positive comments? Many people don't want to scroll thru thousands of comments that add nothing to the discussion
@andrewbloomquist6351 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad he brought up the "avoid being hated portion of that quote". No one ever brings that to light. I don't believe that he espoused pure ruthlessness, but you have to be cold to a degree to survive in this world.
@createorconform2 ай бұрын
Your story telling phenomenal. The ups and downs of the journey you guided the listener through is an art to say the least
@Myname-cb9ru Жыл бұрын
You should make a part two, since the prince isn't actually representative of Machiavellis actual philosophy. At least here in Italy historians believe the prince was sort of a metaironic piece he wrote to get back in the good graces of the Medici family; to display his aptitude for governance as the medici liked(they wanted to replicate Cesare Borgia in Florence) his real philosophy was an extreme for of republicanism, and it's likely that he's the first mainstream European republican. In his other works, such as his commentaries on Roman writers, he writes how a polis(city) should have citizens that are extremely devoted to maintain the sanctity of the republics institutions, whether it be from foreign invaders or domestic subversives.
@jpfg2713 Жыл бұрын
This
@tangzx3312 Жыл бұрын
behold, a man who actually read Machiavelli
@francesco3772 Жыл бұрын
@@tangzx3312impossible!
@dudejuice Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this part in the video but it did not appear so. This is an interesting viewpoint about The Prince I want to watch about too
@Moleymoler Жыл бұрын
Glad to know someone has actually read his works as well. Its funny to read some of these comments and see people spewing talking points out of their ass on misconceived notions on what Machavelli is talking about or what he really meant with his works. Barnes n nobles has a "classics series" on a bunch of different philosophical works and each of them first start by giving you a context of the time the work was written, and what misconceptions people have today about whatever work it is. I think everyone should read those because theyd gain more insight on The Prince for instance, more insight than they think they actually have.
@kickflips7603 Жыл бұрын
The quality and quantity of this channel has been so surprising and i am so grateful for all these videos have taught me so far, thank you
@maximillion8308 Жыл бұрын
It's harder to keep people in love with you than it is to keep people scared of you, Machiavelli knew that those who wanted real power more often than not needed break the rules to get it. I think his works are more relevant today than ever before. Love your editing style, i swear it gets better with each video, i can literally see you improving❤
@marcferretti Жыл бұрын
Don’t be a wolf or a sheep, be a bird so that can see your surroundings and gain wisdom on what’s going on around you. Fly above the sheep, and wolves and just watch. Pay attention to your surroundings. Birds are skeptical but are also confident in what they can see
@YourAverageYoutubeCommentor Жыл бұрын
just seeing and observing is not enough. you gotta do something to rise to power.
@noctuabird Жыл бұрын
or believe that community isn’t reliant on desperate grabs at power
@mitchellwright5478 Жыл бұрын
@@YourAverageKZbinCommentora Raven and Wolf will often work together to find and both satiate their hunger.
@YourAverageYoutubeCommentor Жыл бұрын
Ravens make sounds when a predator, such as a wolf, is nearby. Can you explain how they are supposed to work in conjunction? @mitchellwright5478
@swinglow6580 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this idea, I can see where you're going with this.
@BogusBigusDingusАй бұрын
“Be an asshole.” - Some Guy who doesn’t realize how easy that is to do. Have integrity. Fail. Sacrifice for your people. One of the biggest fallacies we all take part in is the intellectualization of bad behavior. Was it historical factors? Was it their talent? Were they superior? No. They were simply willing to get shit and blood on their hands. To take from others. And sometimes that’s just greed. Or even cowardice. The most hypocritical part is that the “wolves” are so desperate to be seen as such they’ll follow the biggest grifter in the world as long as the strongman confirms that view for them. Sheep’s in wolves costumes, ready to be eaten. To clarify I know this video is just educational. My reaction was just to think about The Prince is used in casual conversations elsewhere. Great video!
@nabinnyc Жыл бұрын
Your content is consistently engaging informative and visually outstanding. Don't change a thing, unless fortuna deems otherwise 😏
@porkyorcy1715 Жыл бұрын
this is genuinely one of the best channels on youtube. the graphics, your voice and your honesty, the obvious research, the sourcing, the topics. genuinely amazing :) thank you for the genuinely top tier content
@tmsplltrs Жыл бұрын
Kinda silly to use old-timey footage when talking about the 1400s tho. It's a little distracting when the visuals dont match up with the audio
@porkyorcy1715 Жыл бұрын
@@tmsplltrs i think it works quite well for the aesthetics of the channel 😖
@tmsplltrs Жыл бұрын
@@porkyorcy1715 I can agree with that
@YYCUrban Жыл бұрын
Glad this channel exists. I've been following it for a while and I'm glad to say I've added it to my video essay channel collections. Definitely opened me up to reading more. Things like Hemmingway and philosophical writings
@renex_g3915 Жыл бұрын
Can you share your video-essay favourite channels? I love this kind of channels. I know ahoy, defunctland, solar sands, emplemon and this channel, you have more?
@alexandergrothendieck15718 күн бұрын
Absolutely wonderful video! The choice of visuals and the storytelling intertwine in a beautiful dance! Thank you
@lukeebeling8516 Жыл бұрын
Randomly discovered your channel and I haven’t stopped binge watching since!! Thank you for the absolutely amazing content.
@thohjoshdarnit3537 Жыл бұрын
Please keep the videos coming brother, quality is top tier and I’ve cleared the back log in a couple days. Thank you for the quality content.
@eamonncuerden-conboy6621 Жыл бұрын
I learned about Machiavelli in university. We cross examined the Prince with Erasmus' The Education of a Christian Prince (which I suggest you potentially cover in a future?) and it made for quite an interesting debate. I think its important to point out the circumstances of Mach's torture. He lasted 22 days of imprisonment and torture through a method called strappado without giving up his political companions or admitting to bogus claims. The strappado is the method of tying the victim's arms behind their back, dropping them from a ledge and dislocating their arms from their shoulders to prevent death and ensure maximum pain. Since we know so little about his early life, this fact always seemed to be so counter to his later political ideology. I'm sure at some point, maybe before being ruthlessly tortured by the state, Mach believed in the goodness of humanity. However, at some point, whether through pain or clarity, he adhered to the efficiency of virtu over the complexities of virtue. Surviving the horrors of torture and political corruption would make anyone apathetic of the moral fantasies of those around them. Super great video! You summarized his ideas well and left it open to interpretation. Keep making more videos!!!!
@Appachoppa112 Жыл бұрын
Villain arc 😂
@imawaffle148 Жыл бұрын
Machiavelli never abandoned those principles. As he wrote The Prince, Machiavelli also wrote a book on republics. Throughout his life Machiavelli loved republics; losing Florence broke his heart. Discourses on Livy, which analyzed Roman history and that of the republic, was much more representative of his beliefs.
@daring_dreams Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sovietunion7643Ай бұрын
this is kinda why i wonder why so many people follow him. should we really trust an idealogy build on someone with a circumstance directly against morality?
@gabem.397 Жыл бұрын
These videos always seem to come out right when I get out of class, I just chill in the union building listening to these on the couch or while I'm playing pool.
@steveosborn7224 Жыл бұрын
I read this book following a divorce and when I was needing to take the next step in my career. I got promoted a year later. I learned how to play the game, from this book. I had always kept my emotions on my sleeve, if I didn’t like someone or an idea I would just say it. That was the honest approach but we don’t deal with honest people so it can actually hurt you. Once I started being more duplicitous, laughing at jokes I normally wouldn’t have or befriending people I didn’t care for I achieved my goal in that environment. Then once I got my certification I left that place and went to a place better situated for my true self. The point being, it helped based on the environment I was in. Once I got what I needed I left and went to a place better suited for me, the real me.
@Pushnotificationsalwaysoffbye Жыл бұрын
It sounds like you used the tenets outlined in “The 48 Laws of Power” more wholly and if so, that’s nothing to be ashamed of. I respect the honest approach of Robert Greene leaving far less room for interpretation than this work.
@djm-9654 Жыл бұрын
I did the same .. but i couldn’t keep up with it because i rly hated that place and those people
@thesnailshow8004 Жыл бұрын
That's fine. You're a piece of shxt that deserves the worst pain that can be inflicted on a person if you behave like that toward people in your personal life but you probably already knew that.
@Senorzilchnzero10 ай бұрын
To get what you want at what price? Do you lose a piece of your soul by playing this game?
@steveosborn722410 ай бұрын
@@Senorzilchnzero not at my level bro lmao. By playing the game I meant laughing at dumbass jokes from supervisors I normally wouldn’t have. It improved my life and didn’t cost me anything other than annoyance. Always way the ends and the means beforehand.
@tcf_iceland Жыл бұрын
21:05 It's cool to see here a painting by Artemisia Gentileschi, especially "Judith Slaying Holofernes". She was an Italian painter, one of very few women who were able to gain education and later employment during her era. Her painting style was influenced (through her father) by Caravaccio and she was a court painter under the patronage of House Medici 😊
@SaturnCrashing10 ай бұрын
Very happy to see a Gentileschi painting in there too. She was such an amazing painter.
@massimo67674 ай бұрын
*Caravaggio
@LiterallyLozyl Жыл бұрын
This is such an eye opener. You deserve all the support my man!
@crimsonstarr6122 Жыл бұрын
Quite possibly the best channel I’ve come across in years. I hope you blow up man, I can think of no one more deserving.
@HorsesOnYT Жыл бұрын
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@shemi1716 Жыл бұрын
the editing on this is so engaging, the art really drew me in, good stuff man
@Augustus65Ай бұрын
So refreshing to have a video explaining Machiavelli objectively and humbly instead of simply regurgitating his quotes and putting on a deep voice to sound dark and villainous
@dashikibraxton553713 күн бұрын
Analyses like this are why I love this channel. Quick story: Back in high school I took AP Econ. My teacher had us all play a special kind of game of Monopoly. Each of us would be given a different style of political philosophy-and we would not be allowed to tell our classmates what ours was-mine, for example, was Machiavellianism. So whenever I determined that my classmates were making too much money, acquiring too much land, I would simply reach over and take their money, hotels, etc. This obviously almost had us come to blows with each other and the teacher apologized to me for putting me in that situation (mind you I’m a teenage boy at this time so I was always down for a good squabble so she really didn’t need to apologize)-but the point she made was that…the Monopoly board was symbolic of the world. Each of us in the class, with our differing economic and political philosophies, were trying to amass power in our own convictions as “nations”, competing over finite resources…and the fights that break out as a result are wars -or as Mao would put it , “politics with bloodshed”. This was geopolitics in an oversimplified nutshell. This memory is so ingrained my mind and I’m so grateful for the lesson I got from this teacher , and I’ve been intrigued by Machiavellianism ever since.
@skampisti3701 Жыл бұрын
the beauty of Machiavelli is that he didn't support the ideas that he wrote, he didn't support a cruel monarchy. Machiavelli was obsessed with the Roman Republic, and even wrote a much bigger book on it, he thought that everything they did was perfect in contrast with what was happening in Italy. writing the Prince, he mostly aspired to get as much of a voice in his book (in the Medicis eyes), because it is a very debatable book that gets attention and sparks debate. I think that the Prince was written as a warning and advice. it can help people who struggle too much in society and also signal them the evil people. he did write how to be the most efficient ruler, but not the best one...
@brewsive Жыл бұрын
i do like to open up youtube to be greeted by another certified hood classic. i'm really digging the aesthetics on this one.
@giancarlogregoretti6186 Жыл бұрын
He was a very interesting character in AC Brotherhood!! His appearance alongside Ezio was actually what made me read his book The Prince.
@NsahTheIdealist5 ай бұрын
Please can I have the link to the real book even on Amazon? There seems to be many copies titled the prince but mostly commentaries
@tomasvalach69752 ай бұрын
I stumbled upon the prince as a topic and pretty much every video is about the abouting around it but not actually about it. Makes me want to read the book even more when I'm told to not. How did you like the book? AC B2 was my first "modern aaa game" when I bought my first modern gaming capable machine.
@tendaoxtails4 ай бұрын
As I’m listening to this, I’m starting to realize that my father has been using these methods to become successful. He always said it was god but when I would watch him, he moved…not so nicely, to say the least. Yes, he’s very successful but to what cost? He’s HATED by his children (me most of all) his wife is terrified of him so much so that she’s a robot at this point, all six of his brothers are terrified of him, and he literally has no friends. All he does is antagonize people with his wealth, berate people poorer than him and talks down on people progression in life. He literally embodies everything negative Machiavelli says. The only thing that differs is that he gives thanks to god for his success as a way to hide behind for his wicked deeds. He’s stepped over everyone who was kind to him (my mom who he left to die) to get where he is and now that he’s in a different position in the military, he uses that to invoke more fear out of people. Honestly, he strives for people to HATE him at this point with how he moves. He expects loyalty from his “subjects” and if not…he goes on a public slander campaign to make his point. This whole video triggered a lot of trauma I thought I had gotten over. To think my father has been using these methods to get ahead and not because of Gods grace scares tf outta me…
@erincardenas29272 ай бұрын
Narcissism at its finest💯
@sovietunion7643Ай бұрын
this is exactly my situation, practically word for word. its also why i hate Machiavelli's views because the invariably lead to this. life is more than power and control. life is more than who you can influence. its why his dislike of christianity is the worst part of it, because christianity goes against everything my father believes despite his insisence on being christian. jesus was a man who strove to help people. he didn't use any mind games, he didn't manipulate or use fear. yet the faith he created has spread far and wide and has inspired people to be kind and cooperative for literally thousands of years. how many tyrants and manipulators are remembered further than their death with anything other than disgust?
@kaylaregeaАй бұрын
Amen 🙏🏽
@Dyscalculla9 ай бұрын
So glad I found this channel. Incredibly interesting delivery!
@louiscantwell8912 Жыл бұрын
I found this channel today. I’m on my way to watching every single video, it’s quickly becoming a favourite of mine.
@javidking63 Жыл бұрын
this channel worth more than one whole Netflix company. keep up the good work.
@cavenoises Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found your channel. You're consistently making some of the most insightful, well written, visually interesting videos I've seen in a while. Wishing all the best for you and this channel 💙
@HorsesOnYT Жыл бұрын
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@kobalt779 ай бұрын
What an absolutely outstanding video. I only knew tiny bit about Machiavelli, so this was my first real learning as to what he was all about. Thank you very much for sharing this !
@lpwithdochlpa3596 Жыл бұрын
I can't express how calming and what a relexing effect your voice had on me while watching this video. I couldn't hold back but buy the booki n my local library whilst watching this video. This is just meant to be a little thank you for this video in the form of a comment
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@miss_liberty_8 Жыл бұрын
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@CarolineBearoline Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting out such thought-out, grounded material! I loved this video
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@adamrollins4576 Жыл бұрын
This man is slowly killing my social skills, I’ll want to talk about his is videos or the ideas from them. And all I get in return is a silence from my friends lol
@badgoy1573 Жыл бұрын
That eternal fluoride stare...
@3Elliot3 Жыл бұрын
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@augustgremaud2738 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you need to make some new friends who like discussing philosophy and other academic topics! No need to force that convo on friends who aren’t as interested.
@JoeSmith-cy9wj Жыл бұрын
Maybe that's why there's so much balony in conversation. Ruthless truth isn't a pleasant topic of gab.
@harolddiez681311 ай бұрын
I am very thankful I have found this channel, this makes me more interested on philosophies.
@anderson6379 Жыл бұрын
I FINALLY decided to get onto this topic. Have never read up on it. And I chose the PERFECT video to begin my journey. Well done. Such a great review. Subbed. Looking forward to exploring more content. What a great find
@juhin5524 Жыл бұрын
The writing, the presentation, everything about your videos is beautiful. Can’t wait to see you grow bigger 👊
@DNGNDriver Жыл бұрын
I think the idea of "virtu" is fascinating in how it can be paralleled to Eastern thought. According to my professor, one of the key tenants of Daoism is de (德). He translated the term as "virtuosity," and connected it to the idea of someone being a virtuoso rather than to being Virtuous. Someone who is or who acts with "de" is able to do things extremely well, but is also able to make those things look effortless. I wonder how much that translation of the concept is informed by the idea of virtu...
@tutatis96 Жыл бұрын
Im not familiar with daoism but the word virtue has changed a lot under the influence of Christianity, in which the virtuous is he who does not sin. The latin origin is from "vir", man in latin so virtus is basically manliness and it was divided in wisdom, justice, self-control and courage, which were seen as the ultimate skillset that a man must have, and by a man they basically meant a very masculine one, a noble, a warrior. So virtus, virtu, virtue in origin meant the skillset of a great warrior. It was very tied to the concept of winning on others and the excellence in doing so. I think that Machiavelli use of "virtu" revive that concept in a neoclassical and anti-christian way perfectly.
@tutatis96 Жыл бұрын
Also that fade in later roman age and virtus, rather than excellent warrior, became a more broad idea of the ability to do the right thing, which became the ability to avoid sin
@AYVYN Жыл бұрын
The Italian word is Sprezzatura, but it didn’t become popular until after Machiavelli’s death. “The art of effortless perfection.”
@yocef2714 Жыл бұрын
writing and music, superb! great channel dude!!!
@mm88deatmatch11 ай бұрын
First time I have head this accurately summarized and analyzed. The schools in the US love to demonize this book without addressing it's accuracy. Great Work
@BlazeIsBOSS Жыл бұрын
My fascination with machiavelli started with 2pac and the makaveli record, very fascinating
@GodBody-Alius3 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment 🙌🏾
@horationelson298 Жыл бұрын
Virtu is a word i’ve long tried to translate accurately, as it comprises part of my family motto “Virtute et Labore”, but in George Bull’s Oxford translation of The Prince, it is mostly translated as Prowess, and Fortuna as Luck (or opportunity). When I read The Prince aged 15 once of the parts that really stuck with me was this concept of Prowess and Luck/Opportunity. If one is lucky, then an opportunity may arise for you to take advantage of, but without prowess in that field, the opportunity comes in vain.
@destructionlabs291 Жыл бұрын
Most underrated channel
@ankuj7808 Жыл бұрын
Who gives the rating?
@emilpelaa6732 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@billysmudda4009 Жыл бұрын
@@ankuj7808amount of subs and views
@jacobbeaupre3940 Жыл бұрын
Lol dude had no subs few months ago now has over 200k. He deserves each one but to say underrated is not the right words
@malikhopkins479 Жыл бұрын
Good, we don’t want them knowing everything.
@augustgremaud2738 Жыл бұрын
While I too do not enjoy considering Machiavelli’s philosophy and certainly don’t live by it, it’s vital to understand for even the most virtuous individual. One cannot expect to recognize and resist the machinations of selfish or immoral people without understanding how they think and operate.
@BuddyLee23 Жыл бұрын
In today’s intensely socialized age, we could all do with a bit more Machiavellianism in our hearts and minds. ❣️🗡🤔
@spikereynolds8615 Жыл бұрын
@@BuddyLee23fuck that. I love with the philosophy of "don't be a jerk unless you're being a jerk to people that don't deserve it. Then I'll be a jerk to you."
@colossusofrhodes1282 Жыл бұрын
…and that’s why you get “pimped” 🤡
@augustgremaud2738 Жыл бұрын
@@colossusofrhodes1282 who was this even at lol? And who says “pimped” these days? 😂
@JohnSmith-mc2zz Жыл бұрын
@@BuddyLee23"Immensely socialized." What's your source on that one, the unibomber?
@kit277011 ай бұрын
I am so glad I came across this channel. It's excellent. Hats off to Horses. 🎩 🐎
@mariolongtin8271 Жыл бұрын
This applies to business owners as well, not only politicians. The Prince is a great resource to be aware of how some people behave.
@DeathmetalPersian Жыл бұрын
Just gotta say you have quickly become my favorite yt channel. So nice to actually find honest intellectual thought exploration full of reason and context. Feels like a great thirst being quenched in a desert if faux pseudo intellectuals, armchair psychologists, and political grifters.
@malooch Жыл бұрын
Just read "The Prince" and now I'm reading "The Machiavellians - Defenders of Freedom" by James Burnham. It's dense but fascinating nonetheless. Horses killin it with the vids as always.
@seanwieland9763 Жыл бұрын
You might also like The Dictator’s Handbook by Bruce Bueno de Mesquita and Alastair Smith. Selectorate Theory is basically an independent rediscovery of the Italian School of Elite Theory.
@rebecca.smith. Жыл бұрын
Great! I really enjoyed Populist Delusion and looking forward to The Total State
@lichh644 ай бұрын
Thank you for making these videos! I really want to learn about history because it's very interesting to me but I was kinda swayed away from it because of how we were taught in school. Still so much for me to learn and understand in this world.
@wenaolongАй бұрын
The thing is about every Machiavelli I've taken down so far, is they are each, at their core, spineless.
@Fieldoak Жыл бұрын
Read a course about political leadership and read Machiavelli during that course, the book is one of my favorite books since then. It's totally underated by most people, and it's misunderstood. Thanks for this video!
@anthonygardiner47876 ай бұрын
Did you read any political books during that course. If you did can you list some of those picks. Lastly, what was your biggest takeaway from that course?
@slapsilla7858 Жыл бұрын
Horses May I say the art style and editing of your videos has been improving a lot lately. Everything comes together and creates a unique aestetic which makes the topics of your videos more interesting.
@Can-e3t Жыл бұрын
Dude how can you write this well! The story-telling is legendary.
@prathaps848 Жыл бұрын
He did well after life...timeless n immortal...we r thinking abt him 500yrs later. How many of the current crop of ppl will be remembered despite better storage and archival technologies
@Rouwh Жыл бұрын
Listening to this, I see unbelievable parallels to the current best seller "48 Laws of Power" by Robert Greene. This book seems like a modern version of Machiavellis' "The Prince".
@ianslaby5703 Жыл бұрын
The way I see "The Prince" is that it is a brutally honest how-to guide for obtaining and maintaining political power. Machiavelli doesn't make any judgement or comment about what you should do with it once you have it. I think the way he saw it was that it was not his purpose or his place, he just had to guide the reader to that position.
@thrace_bot10122 ай бұрын
he does pass judgement on it tho, machiavelli's opinion of power and ethics is that you can only affect moral transformation or sustain virtue in society with the stick of the law so in predicaments that demand choosing between power and virtue - choose power but he does not suggest that all aspirations to moral idealism must be rejected with utter prejudice - he does encourage ethical comportment and compassion albeit not at the cost of the ruler's throne
@juicepouchjoe4 ай бұрын
no politician is a good person!
@DannySullivanMusic Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel and boy am I glad.
@cliffeasiimwe3270 Жыл бұрын
From Uganda and this video deserves over a billion views 👏. Am subscribing
@EfeSrmaci Жыл бұрын
Happiness is based on knowledge. The more you know the more stressed you become. Charles Bukowski
@whackkore6635 Жыл бұрын
parts of his philosophy are so profound, you deserve so much more hype 🙏
@pseudosins3790 Жыл бұрын
It's easy to say in hindsight how immoral Machiavelli's ideas are, but existing in a brutal world with little understanding, he seemed to get more things right than you could've reasonably expected of a person. I'm not surprised he seemed to fall short, especially on the topic of ethics and morals. It is definitely possible to have the marriage of Machiavellian principles with being a good and ethical person, and if I'm being honest I think this oversight is what cost him his chances of success. Either way it was a great video as always, and I certainly think you gave his ideas justice.
@Mutiny960 Жыл бұрын
No, it isn't. Because an 'ethical' person will not lie, cheat or steal in order to keep themselves in power or accomplish a political goal. Even if that goal will ultimately help the people in the long run. You cannot always play nice with a bunch of idiots who believe that who you are having sex with, or what make believe Sky God you serve is more important than your track record of good deeds and effectiveness as a leader.
@pseudosins3790 Жыл бұрын
@@Mutiny960 the mistake you're making is believing that lying, cheating and stealing are all essential to being Machiavellian, which definitely isn't true
@jkxzero Жыл бұрын
Simply one of the greatest revolutions about politicians. Great work!
@boisterouspanda25 күн бұрын
For a dude with so much insight into human nature in the modern world, bro was INEPT 😮💨
@adenmixson Жыл бұрын
Bro how do you always put up such high quality well researched videos in such short time
@MewenPng Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@retro-ronin Жыл бұрын
He got that dawg in him.
@cordlefhrichter1520 Жыл бұрын
He's got the sprinkles.
@Nihilnovus Жыл бұрын
Very solid overview of Machiavelli and his works. An interesting tidbit about the term virtu and its etymology is that its root, vir is Latin for man. Man and the masculine being perceived as the order and the logical half of the sexes is something to take of note in relation to fortuna, which is also Latin. The concept of virtu et fortuna is the intersection of order and chance coming together and having one reach a level of self actualization that is seen as their highest potential. This is just my interpretation from a linguistic standpoint. But this was an awesome overview
@thrace_bot10122 ай бұрын
roots don't matter as much as the holistic interpretations of the words in their respective contexts, roots take whole new meaning when the develop into new terms here virtu simply means habits + talents
@Sumerugeniusenjoyer Жыл бұрын
Machiavelli made a huge impact that his name became known as "The Dark Triad" in the modern times. The trio of negative personality traits, Narcissism, Machiavellism (which is Manipulation, self-interest, and domineering) and psychopathy.
@mr.figgles9 ай бұрын
13:32 in a single word, competence. It’s what inspires me most in history, stories, and myths. When a character is, beyond any attribute like luck, virtue of their goal, or strength of character, good at what they do. When someone is purely efficient, skillful, smart, raw and simple good at their chosen tasks. Competent. Competence is a great word. It’s so open ended. Being competent doesn’t make you dedicated, some of the most competent people will often use that competence to open up more of their time, to be lazy and relax. Being competent doesn’t make you cruel, a competent swordsman might focus their skill on killing as quickly as possible, so as to reduce pain. There’s also no limit or benchmark on what to be competent in. You can be as broadly competent as the whole of astrophysics all the way down to timing the arrivals of trains at your local station. Competence and by extension virtu is a great word that I don’t see often enough.
@rivereuphrates8103Ай бұрын
What an endlessly fascinating man, and what a fantastic video
@Victoriaghh Жыл бұрын
FINALLY YOURE GETTING RECOGNITION. This topic is an extremely good one. ❤