MACHIFIT DMC 250-000 Gib Type (Aloris Compatible) Toolpost Review.

[@SteveJordan]

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[@clockguy2]

The 250-000 is also known as an OXA toolpost and refers to the size, which happens to be the same I use on my 7" X 14" Chinese mini-lathe. If you think about it, the piston type pushes out, resting only on the dovetails and piston pressure. The wedge type pulls the tool back to rest against the base and dovetails, giving more rigidity. I didn't realize that the myfords had flat bed ways until now...like the american Atlas lathes

[@amberyooper]

I just got one of these for my little 7X10 mini lathe. It really is nice, especially compared to the toolpost that you get with the lathe. It's much easier to adjust the tip of the tool to the center line for cutting.

[@dedenirvan804]

Thank you for the informative review. I purchased immediately. It was good to choose not the set but the holder of the type I want. I am also looking forward to the video. from Japan.

[@goldassayer93555]

Steve I have that 250-000 on my Harbor Freight 7x10. it is very nice in finish and the best for solid tool holding. i found that the center post has a loose fit to the helical driver with 0.018" difference between ID and OD. By putting a piece of 0.006 shim stock around the center post i got a much smoother and more positive action of the locking lever. Good review.

[@steph2211]

Nice to see you back in the shop Steve.

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Steph.....Thanks!

[@ausielad1]

Just ordered mine, all of them, what tooling do you recommend, Cheers from Australia.

[@griplove]

I had no idea the OXA had an mt2 tool holder that’s awesome. I believe the flip side of the knurling tool is for a small tool for facing.

[@mlefe09]

Very informative, thanks!

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday Steve, nice QCTP, I have a new lathe coming and I’ve been looking for suitable tool post, I will look into this one for sure, thank you kindly for sharing mate, ATB Matty

[@jirvin4505]

Mine arrived today. Thanks for review Steve. An order of magnitude better fit and finish than the aluminium jinwin type tool holder. Tool holders fit well sliding in on ground steel finishes. Mine is a touch graunchy on the opening and closing scroll. Doesn’t seem as smooth as yours. Will give it a clean and see if it improves with use. All in all a great Banggood buy. Looking forward to the bigger ones coming out for larger lathes Cheers Jeff..... sunny Qld Australia Australia

[@johnsmith1882-x2i]

9:10 how do you align the drill bit to the spindle center?

[@SteveJordan]

I just eye it up to a centre drill hole. If the drill is properly ground I can get it spot on although if it's a few thou out it wouldn't matter as it will follow the centre hole. Regards Steve

[@johnsmith1882-x2i]

Thanks

[@mariovelez2938]

Excellent Steve, your information is great and convinces me that I should have that Tool Post for my little Lathe, but also I like the base or car that appears in your video where the tool holder is mounted, then could you tell me please where I can get it. I would appreciate very much if you can help me. Thanks a lot, MARVEL

[@LozHarrop]

when you follow the link it shows a piston type holder for sale ?

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Yes, I have mentioned this to Banggood. They need to change the picture as you do get the gib when ordering from this listing. It shows the correct one further down on the listing page.

[@mender2624]

Hi Steve, I’ve made a few of your projects and I like the way you explain them in detail. I’ve got a four-way tool post on my Myford at the moment and this would be a very versatile upgrade. I notice with the 250-000 that you’ve fitted it to your cross slide but with some of your previous tool posts you made solid mounts that fitted directly to the cross slide and I think you did this for better rigidity? I thought the solid mount you made for the larger piston type toolpost was very good but do you think it would work for the 250-000 tool post. I ask because maybe a solid mount could also be adapted for a double purpose as a mini milling table to hold small jobs whist they are being bored or milled? I know you made a milling table out of an ML7 cross slide but do you think that a smaller solid block could be made to serve as a toolpost holder and also a milling/ clamping table? Thanks Steve - Please keep the videos rolling!

[@mender2624]

Sorry Steve - in my above comment I made a mistake = you have obviously fitted the 250-00 to the topsile and not the cross slide!

[@SteveJordan]

Hi yes you can make a solid block for any toolpost really. There are no end of adaptions you can make for milling as well. I quite like the versatility of using a right angled plate for milling as well.

[@mender2624]

@@SteveJordan Hi Steve, Thanks for getting back so quickly. I think I'll do the topslide conversion first, then look around for some thick steel plate for the cross slide mount. I also need some heat in my workshop Brrrrr! Cheers, Chris

[@mender2624]

Hi Steve, I think your solid tool post mount you made for the 250-100 toolpost could be adapted for the 250-000 toolpost with some height modifications? I’ve ordered the 250-000 toolpost plus the 001, 002 and 004 holders. Do you think the parting tool works well? I had problems with parting using front mounted parting tools until I made your excellent rear tool post. I’ve not ordered the 004 because I’ve yet to buy a boring head and some take metric and some imperial boring sets. Thanks again for your super reviews - we’d be flying blind without them! Chris

[@jessestrum]

hi steve did you get hold a extra top slide for your new tool post cheers john

[@cowjazz7906]

thanks for the review

[@williamwilliam7100]

Hi Steve,love watching your vids.I started as an apprentice machinist in the ship yards late 1960s.I remember a teacher saying to us in classroom how much you advance in your trade demands how thick you are.What an insult that was ,but we didn't really think about it then.

[@vidiaas]

Hi Steve, thanks for the review, it's a nice review. Which one is more rigid between 250-000 and 250-100? I'm in a process of rebuilding a 2nd hand EMCO Maximat Super 11 series, and I'm interested in those two series. Thanks

[@joebianco139]

Hi Steve, I enjoy and learned a lot from you videos. I've got a tool post from Banngoods it came to me in FX 250-000 version the tool post handle locks in the counter clockwise motion. Do you know Is anything about this? I see the one you have locks in the clockwise motion I would of preferred it that way. Thanks Joe

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Joe you can take them apart and re assemble to put it right. I took mine apart several times before I got mine right. It's a bit like a puzzle but it works out in the end. I did mine on a table indoors. It can be frustrating to find the way it goes but they are all the same mechanism. Regards Steve

[@joebianco139]

@@SteveJordan thanks Steve I'll give it a go.

[@11Aldebaran11]

Hi Steve. I have this magnificent little QCTP almost 2 years now. I saw it and I get it since appears on the eBay before 2 years ago. Unfortunately at that days the sellers asked me my arm and my leg :-( $168 with 4 tool-holder 250-001. This day’s price it’s almost three times lower than before. The reason I am writing to you now, is my big concern about the little movable gib, if something happen and broke, how can I replaced it, since none of retailers offers replacement, or how can I make one. Any ideas…??

[@rodrigonascimento6042]

I would like to know if I can use this quick-change castle around a large 25mm tool lathe

[@jayk2k]

what would the advantage be to using the drill bit on the tool post ? would you not have to make sure that it is dead central , which is what the tail stock is for , no ?

[@SteveJordan]

I think the advantage is that you can use the carriage in power feed to do the finish dia drilling or reaming to get good finishes. It's easy to center it on an already drilled hole. Regards Steve

[@jayk2k]

@@SteveJordan , Thanks for the reply . sorry mine is late . I am pretty new to lathing , I would have thought it was harder to centre the tool without the centre part of the work piece as you would be guessing where the centre is

[@SteveJordan]

You can easily find the centre height. There's several different ways. One is to put a small drill in the toolpost drill chuck and put a steel rule between the end of that drill and the diameter of the workpiece or bar. Wind the cross slide in onto the steel ruler, pinching it lightly. The steel ruler should be dead verticle if the centre height is correct. If the steel ruler is at an angle one way or another, you adjust the centre height until the steel ruler is dead upright when lightly pinched in position. Regards Steve

[@jayk2k]

@@SteveJordan , thanks . I will give that a go

[@Import_Fails]

Hi Steve, nice video and very helpful for me to choose the right toolholders. I ordered a part-off toolholder 250-007 and I am asking myself which blade (size and material) you are using. Can you recommend a fitting blade, maybe with a Banggood link to order. Any help would be very much appreciated. Cheers Michael.

[@jeffbarrett1787]

Hi michael, did you by chance find a pairing off blade for the tool holder 250-007

[@Import_Fails]

@@jeffbarrett1787 Hi Jeff. I don't use the 250-007 any more and I don't have a brandname or a link for a ready made blade for you. But you can try a blank HSS blade with >12mm hight, 2-3 mm thickness and a length of about 100mm. The hight of the blade must be at least 12.3 mm, otherwise the locking mechanism won't work. And you have to modify the cutting edge of the HSS blade by yourself (angle and tip) which is not very funny. Instead of the 250-007 I use a 250-001 with a Paulimot FSLTBN10-02 holder (piggyback) and an HSS-Co8 Blade in 2.5x12x100mm dimension (I think also from Paulimot). Not the sturdiest combination but it works for me at least on plastic, aluminum and brass. For steel I would recommend something stronger with one holder only. Paulimot is a german company that sells cheap chinese tools. You can google their URL and search for the products. Hope that helps.

[@Import_Fails]

@@jeffbarrett1787 Unfortunately Steve never answered my question.

[@bcornwall2785]

Hi Steve I have just purchased this tool post for my myford ml7, however the tool post threaded bar that attaches to the cross slide doesn’t fit? Have you machined something to make the tool post fit? I have the threaded bar with the circle piece at the bottom pictured in the top right of your video!! Any help very much appreciated!

[@bcornwall2785]

I mean top slide sorry!!

[@frankske1958]

Hi steve what blade number do i need for the parting tool 250-007 from machifit.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Thanks for Your video. I recently bought that toolpost and a number of -001 and -002. The holders has a vertical capacity of 12 mm, maybe even 1/2 inch. The width however is only 7.5 mm (.300"). That creates an increased torque trying to bend the tool down and forward, comparing tool being12 mm compared to 10 mm or smaller. I'm thinking of milling down the side of the tool pointing towards the tailstock by some 2 mm. What do You think Steve?

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Stefan, you can do that If you want. I just use them as they are though. I haven't had any problems with them.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Thanks Steve. My idea buying 12 mm holders was to gain rigidity. As You say, just try.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

But the 16 mm holder Banggood sent me needs to be cut down....

[@johnsmith1882-x2i]

Will it fit my lathe? My spindle center is about 27mm above the compound slide.

[@paulcotesr5623]

Hello i have a question on the tool post 250-000 to hold the tool block on the post i have to push the handle away from me is that odd? i always thought is was pull towards me ? ty I hope some one may have some idea to ty paul

[@jeffbarrett1787]

Hi Paul, apparently there are two types FX250-000 and 250-000 the FX one is anti clockwise, the 250 is standard clockwise

[@jameskoehn4331]

Steve what kind of stock was you turning ? You didnt say.

[@SteveJordan]

Hi James, The first piece was S316 stainless steel. Then 6082T6 grade aluminium. Regards Steve

[@36Hooters]

Do I have to mill of 3mm of the compound slide for this tool post to work with 12mm tools

[@gangleweed]

It would be better to mill a bit off the bottom of the tool itself, that way you can use bigger tools and still get the height right. If you haven't got a mill then mount the tool in the 4 jaw chuck and face it down or mount the tool on the tool holder and use an end mill in the 3 jaw to mill the bottom of tool down to size.

[@pcka12]

The hyperlink shows the piston type, will the wedge type fit mini lathes please?

[@SteveJordan]

They have used the wrong photo. I have told them it needs changing. The listing is for the gib type though. I will have a look to see if it's possible to use this one on the mini lathe soon

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Yes this one fits the Chinese Mini Lathes. You just need a longer 10mm threaded stud on the compound slide. I will show this soon as I have one coming for my mini lathe.

[@DoctorJ3kyll]

Is the toolpost and holders made from steel?

[@SteveJordan]

Hi yes. It is high quality steel and nicely finished. Regards Steve

[@PizzeyTechnology]

Steve, I'm looking to buy a QCTP for my Denford lathe (10" swing and approx 26mm from compound slide to centre height). Am I right in thinking the 250-000 is for a smaller lathe and I should purchase the next size up? (250-111) I have an old Myford ML4 which is mothballed at the moment, but if I get that back in action the 250-000 looks the right size unless I am mistaken. Do you know whether these tool posts take the same size toolholders? Most of my tools are 12mm or less.

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Yes the 250-000 is for the smaller lathe like the Myford or the Chinese Mini Lathe. I think the 250-111 or the 250-100 maybe ok for your larger lathe. You can check the dimensions on the Banggood site listing. I made up a special block for my Myford that goes in place of the compound slide so I can use the 250-100.

[@JEPhotodesign]

Thanks for the video. Is the through hole for the bolt symmetrical to the body? I would need to drill it out to 20 mm tot a stud on my carriage and wonder if I could do it on the lathe with a centering 4 jaw Chuck....

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Jan, I don't think it would have enough material between the internal mechanisms to drill out. The only real option would be to reduce the diameter of the stud. If that is not possible, I wouldn't buy one. Regards steve

[@JEPhotodesign]

@@SteveJordan thanks, very helpful!

[@zvonibab]

Hi Steve, would that kit fit on super seven? and great to have you back!

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Zvonimir I reckon it would. I will have a look at my brothers super 7 to check and see.

[@zvonibab]

Thank you Steve, I did Dixon quick change like you explained but just wonder if this 250-000 is better?

[@ausielad1]

Yes i just fitted one to my super 7.

[@zvonibab]

@@ausielad1 thanks for the information!

[@andym5195]

hi steve. i just went on the site to buy it but it asks to choose a size but then dont give me any size options. do you have any idea what to do?

[@SteveJordan]

Hi I have just been on the listing and tried the options. If you click on them it shows the actual tool holder number or toolpost number on the checkout when you are about to pay. Regards Steve

[@andym5195]

@@SteveJordan ah i see, thanks steve

[@SteveJordan]

The listing is a bit confusing as it says 'select size', when you click on the toolpost photo. If you click on this and then check your checkout it will show that it is the 250-000 (ie.... #0). As far as I see the other sizes are not available on the listing at this time.

[@mikedavis4039]

i can pick up the toolpost and tool holders here in china, how to attach to my ML7 with out modifying the cross slide.

[@colinwarner7762]

So what good is that to us who are not in China!!!

[@mikedavis4039]

I think you missed the question, i wanted to know if i can fit one directly to my ML7 cross slide without modifying it, before i travel back 6000miles with it.

[@EvoKeremidarov]

Hi Mike.. yes you can.. although you probably already know that since you posted the question over three months ago

[@ollyk22]

Has anyone squeezed this on to an ML10?

[@fazhoque1487]

Hi pal how can I buy one of your airgun compressor for tx200 spring

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Faz . I only have the one. I haven't made anymore. Regards Steve

[@fazhoque1487]

@@SteveJordan I would be grateful if you could make us one I will treasure it

[@SteveJordan]

I maybel be selling this one on Gunstar with the Weihrauch HW80 later today.

[@fazhoque1487]

@@SteveJordan hi would you sale it to me and how much

[@chefe2152]

Will it fit to 7x 12 Cummins lathe? Thank you.

[@SteveJordan]

Hi yes it will fit that lathe and all the other Chinese Mini Lathes of this type sold under different names. Regards Steve

[@chefe2152]

Thank you,and great informative channel!

[@EDesigns_FL]

Steve, your're giving us contradictory information. Three months ago you told us that the piston type QCTP was the best. Now, you're telling us that the wedge style is better. Which is it? Both claims cannot be true.

[@SteveJordan]

I actually never knew about the Aloris type then, until someone spoke about it in the comments. Many people say that this type is the best for rigidity and repeat-ability and so far I must admit they are excellent in every way. Having said that though, I have three completely different toolpost types. Those being the Dixon Quickchange, the Machifit Piston Type and this Aloris type. I personally have found them all to be very good and still use all of them on the Myford ML7, for high precision work. When I first acquired my lathes if I had known about the wedge Aloris type toolpost I would have most probably bought this one, as I think the holding mechanism is outstanding in its design and so far I am really pleased with its precision repeatably performance. Plus I really like the actual tool-holder type options that go with the toolpost. At the end of the day though, its not something that would bother me in the slightest if I only had the choice of the others, which I have proved to be very good as well. The Aloris type just takes away any chance of the tool-holders working loose like they sometimes do with the Dixon type, (I haven't had this happen with the Machifit Piston type so far). I think really its just a matter of preference though, just like it is with any other tooling.

[@EDesigns_FL]

@@SteveJordan First, Machfit is not a type/style or standard for QCTP's. What you're referring to is just a cheap piston clone of Aoris's design. What you actually have is not three different types of QCTP's, but two types (Dixon & Aloris) and two different SIZES of one type (OXA and AXA). Second, this should not even have to be stated, but apparently does, you shouldn't represent yourself as an expert on a subject and express your opinion on something you know little about. You'll mislead your viewers when you do, as you did with this subject, and you expose yourself to ridicule. Third, I was the commenter who exposed the folly of your claims to the prior video. Your responses were illuminating. Instead of just admitting you were wrong, you posted b.s. defending your erroneous claims, and, a few days ago (before posting this video), you gave my comments a dislike. Steve, you are quite a character.

[@winandd8649]

Warning: I bought a boring bar holder (250-004) thinking it was quite universal in terms of bar diameters. I was wrong; *Only* 3/8 inch and 1/2 inch will fit! I don't have boring bars in that size so i can't use it now (I probably drill a through hole to try to fit other diameters)

[@Ianhw77k]

I know this was a while ago now but I'm wondering if this size will work in my boxford 9" lathe or if I need to order the next size up. Can anyone advise?

[@gangleweed]

Yes, for the Boxford I would get the AXA size.....the OXA is smaller.

[@Ianhw77k]

Oh, I've ordered the smaller one now. I don't do a lot of big work so hopefully it'll keep me going for a while. I'll upgrade to the bigger one if I have to. The specs say up to 9 inch swing so it should be ok.

[@carlmeanwell9180]

Thanks for all the videos Steve, it would have been wonderful to have your experience in the workshop when I was an apprentice, but this is the next best thing! I found a Myford mod for the 000 toolpost and thought it worth sharing - www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/datasheet/Model-000-QCTP-Mod-Kit-for-Myford-Fitting-Instructions.pdf

[@Levisgil47]

Thanks for your great videos ! Hi, a month ago I've got a Chinese mini lathe 8X16 called MW210 (fr.aliexpress.com/item/32988496086.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27426c37qNuYvF) and It hasn't got a fancy toll post mounted . It seems the QCTP that you are reviewing is a great one. It's a OXA I guess. Although I've seen people putting the AXA which is a bit stronger. My question is do you think that with the mini lathe I bought yours (OXA) will be sufficient for all the works or I'd better pick the AXA instead? Many thanks

[@geoffreyward4743]

stick a chamfer tool in the other side of the knurler

[@SteveJordan]

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[@SteveJordan]

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[@nicholascowlan7743]

Hi Steve. Really like your videos as you explain everything clearly, which is great for a novice like me. Although not your responsibility, the Banggood web site lists 250-001 turning tool holder as only fitting the 250-001 tool post which isn’t the Gib type 250-000 tool post. There is no sign of the other five holders in their website.Or am I wrong ? Regards Nick

[@fazhoque1487]

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[@tattoos1988]

Hi Steve I have just bough the exact same one from bang good can I ask what size drill bit you used and tap size as I’m not very good with these things any help would be greatfully appreciated thanks

[@normesmonde5332]

Cheap Chinese garbarge

[@SteveJordan]

Actually very high quality. I have many years experience in all types of machine tooling made in various countries and this set is exceptional. People nowadays run down the Chinese tooling because they can turn out super quality tools at reasonable prices. I'm really pleased with mine. 'The proof in the pudding is in the eating', so it is often said.:)

[@anthonycash4609]

@@SteveJordan Steve I've had mine for over 2 years now and never found any flaw in it or how it worked. Ive been rather pleased with it and also the price of it. Until he proves any different I right it off as just putting the mouth in motion before the brain goes into gear. Keep up the good videos Steve.

[@jaakkoja]

Just received set and must admit that quality is good. So statement that these are garbage is not true. At least I think I got more than I paid.

[@marcoam2610]

I had different versions in the same shipment (design change, only the serif font labelled holders are fine, non-serif is complete garbage and from another china factory), you never know which one you will get. Undercuts are missing. A lot of rework is needed, only then it is good. If you have time and like fine grinding, take china. If you compare that with german-made axa multifix, yes then it is inferior china garbage. I had insufficient, uneven hardening, crooked cut threads and very poor manufactured fastening elements