Machine, Grind, and Heat Treat HBM Clutch | Lucas Boring Mill 441B Project

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Vanover Machine & Repair

Vanover Machine & Repair

Күн бұрын

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@bill4639
@bill4639 Ай бұрын
Professional heat treater and machinist here. I ALWAYS oversize threaded holes prior to hardening because when you harden steel it expands, thus making the holes smaller. You can look up expansion rates for 4130 or whatever you are working with. The long version of the story is when you heat your annealed or “stress relieved” part, the soft pearlite steel, which is a face centered cubic atomic structure, changes into a austenitic phase, and goes into a body centered cubic atomic structure. You then quench, trapping the carbon atom inside the iron lattice, making it stay in it’s expanded, body centered cutic, martensitic structure and phase, thus making the steel expand on an atomic level. Additionally the oxidized layer of steel after it is heated is thick enough to interfere with fine threads, sou you may need to use a dremel wire wheel to clean off the oxidation or “scale”. I also want to mention that flood coolant makes a huge difference with tool life, so I highly recommend you use it more often despite the mess, smell, and vapors. If you want to truly understand the mechanical properties of steel look up Professor Harshad “Harry” Bhadeshia on his KZbin channel. The man is a compendium of steel knowledge.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Wow great tips thanks
@MrMojolinux
@MrMojolinux Ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Our Tool&Die shop would always oversize tap (each tap itself is marked GH3 GH4 GH5 etc. indicating increasingly larger oversized taps for difficult tool steel metals like D-2 , S-7, H-13. that are to be heat treated. Different type heat treating can leave some residue especially inside of threads. Other heat treating in different atmospheres, followed by tempering can shrink or distort internal threads.
@evervigilant
@evervigilant Ай бұрын
"Probably not necessary, but I am doing things to the best of my ability." If only more people thought that way our world would be different.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Agreed 100%
@punishr36
@punishr36 22 күн бұрын
I'm a Toolmaker of 42 years and enjoyed your video. I too do in-house heat treating and would suggest a 3 dimensional figure 8 for your quenching so while doing a figure 8 you also raise and lower the part. Also confirm if the oil at an 11 second quench should be pre-heated for 4130 and make sure you allowed your part to reach 1575 by allowing it to soak at that temperature based on it's thickness as per o/a dimension. If there is slight distortion you can skim the mating contact face and relevant diameters IF required with CBN in the lathe even if it's 62rc if you don't have grinding capabillities. Great job and cheers.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
Thank you I appreciate the advice
@andybonneau9209
@andybonneau9209 18 күн бұрын
Great job! You're right to be proud of your work. It must be satisfying to be able to repair your own equipment using your own skills in your shop.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 18 күн бұрын
It definitely is, thanks!
@Cromwell648
@Cromwell648 21 күн бұрын
Very enjoyable to watch and your level of skill and attention to details is spot on. Well done. 👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 21 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@JFirn86Q
@JFirn86Q Ай бұрын
Awesome job!! Wow... and you did the heat treat perfectly, just as good as any shop you'd send it out to. You mentioned you were wishing it was more violent with flames when quenching for content purposes, but you actually don't want this. The flames only happen if you don't fully dunk the part in the oil (such as the shank of a knife you are holding not going into the oil). Since you did it properly where you dipped even your pliers into the oil it does not make any flames, which is a good thing! Excellent stuff!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Appreciate it thank you
@charleswelch249
@charleswelch249 Ай бұрын
You keep doing what you are doing. The more you step outside your comfort zone. The more you gain confidence and experience, the more you will gain confidence and experience. You definitely made a much more part than factory. You should probably polish the mating cerfises before assembly. With your part being harder than the handle, it'll act like a file to the other mating surface. Great job making the machine better than factory.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Good call thank you.
@joewhitney4097
@joewhitney4097 Ай бұрын
Your process narration and the video were great. I enjoy listening, watching and learning with your processes. I appreciate your sharing the content very much. Thank you very much.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@morganblu
@morganblu Ай бұрын
I very much appreciate your non traditional approach from painting the equipment to your machining! Cutting Edge Engineering and you are my favorite videos!
@bbzecker5921
@bbzecker5921 Ай бұрын
I fully agree with you! Interesting! The editing is perfect when it comes to fast forward during repetitive operations. We have enough time to appreciate the procedures while not getting bored by it. Karen at CEE does the same in her video editing. I love that!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks guys I wish I had more help editing I have been a one man band the last three months my editor is taking some time off.
@lawrencewillard6370
@lawrencewillard6370 Ай бұрын
Add 'Snowball Engineering' also. Another hands on business. Was referred to him by 'Watch Wes Work', see what he does.
@morganblu
@morganblu Ай бұрын
@@lawrencewillard6370 I forgot to mention Snowball
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
@@lawrencewillard6370 like me some snow ball
@Impuritan1
@Impuritan1 Ай бұрын
It’s why I love your channel as you do my favorite things, machine stuff and 3D print things. Swore I’d never have a need for a printer and now I own three of them.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Haha I get it I got one and I want a few more but I don’t really know why
@Chromevulcan
@Chromevulcan Ай бұрын
I thought of half a dozen ways to cut those bevels before you said how you were going to do it. I never considered the nod on my mill. I never touch it, I guess I'm going to have to start broadening my repertoire a bit, lol. Beautiful job.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Me either I seem to be scared to do it I tried with 45 chamfer mill but it is a big cut lots of tool pressure. Nodding the head was worth it. Got to use side of cutter which works better.
@jackdotzman2908
@jackdotzman2908 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, explanation of where you’re going with the project, great editing, you do a very nice job and the craftsmanship is very good, top notch. You’re a very skilled craftsman. Thank. You. We’re watching from Missouri.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Appreciate that! Glad you liked it.
@hemanthharrilall6469
@hemanthharrilall6469 Ай бұрын
You should be proud. Well done. Thanks for the video
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I am thanks
@rakeshjuyal6141
@rakeshjuyal6141 Ай бұрын
Very well done,admire your skills and great understanding, impressed,well done.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
Thanks appreciate it
@stevenjefferson3379
@stevenjefferson3379 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, awesome machine work and a great job of videoing and editing! You have become one of my top five KZbin channels. Thank you for making the time to produce so many very interesting videos.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
That’s really kind of you to say
@jerryraz5294
@jerryraz5294 Ай бұрын
Well done. Well explained and presented. Thanks, Jer
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
Thanks Jer!
@gexas38
@gexas38 Ай бұрын
...btw i love to see the broaching and shots on the big press. I have some broaching to do and it shows me that the manual press is the way to go.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah those are sexy shots
@Zogg1281
@Zogg1281 26 күн бұрын
You mentioned that you didn't know if the steel had been stress relieved, but it has been annealed. Stress releasing is when the steel is heated and cooled to specify temperatures and over different lengths of times. Annealing goes further then the stress relief process by allowing it to cool over as long a time as possible. If the steel has been annealed, the stress relief is kinda built into the annealing, so you that's not going to be an issue. The thing to remember is that the moment you start working the steel, you're taking it away from that nice "soft" annealed straight, which means that whether it's been stress relieved or not, you have to do it before hardening the steel.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
OK, that makes some sense. Yeah I was doing a lot of reading online ahead of time and it looks like on dimensional critical parts. People recommended stress relieving multiple times throughout the machining process so what you’re saying makes sense. It also seems like it may not be necessary to relieve in the beginning then, that may be a waste of time. That is if it is annealed. I guess where it may make some senses where the material properties are more vauge
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 Ай бұрын
A Maintenance Machinist where I used to work arranged a heat treating set up so he could heat treat parts & tooling he made because the "official" Heat Treat Shop always pushed his work to the bottom of the list so they could get "production" parts out the door. I can't remember the details, but he definitely pre-heated his oil so that "cold" oil wouldn't shock the parts when quenched & tempered. He even had a thermometer in the oil so he knew exactly what its temperature was. I knew him well and know that he wouldn't fool with pre-heating the oil if it didn't improve his results. Perhaps that extra step would help with at least some future jobs?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah I have also seen that somewhere as well.
@gwharton68
@gwharton68 Ай бұрын
Great video. Job well done.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I appreciate it.
@zlfoz
@zlfoz Ай бұрын
merece um like, muito bem feito, é um artesão!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thank you
@MrMojolinux
@MrMojolinux Ай бұрын
Just a little suggestion for someone who is looking to save money ordering material, specifically solid steel off cuts. Get into the habit of trepaning versus drilling (mostly on your Lathe(s) whenever possible, to make shop drops instead of chips! That trepaned core you just saved from sweeping chips off the floor, could be just the size and material you need for that next job? Over a period of time, trepanning with different steels and gaining the resulting accumulated sizes waitng on your steel rack, could be EXTRA profit earned! OR even sometimes the profit itself if underbid.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
Yes, I want to get into tree panning but I need to make some custom tooling. I just haven’t got there yet.
@iamkilroiyo
@iamkilroiyo Ай бұрын
I have to thank the algo for showing me your channel. First time here and subscribed and notified! Great stuff.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks for checking it out
@richardabner9420
@richardabner9420 27 күн бұрын
another great Vanover Machine video!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 26 күн бұрын
I appreciate it
@Narwaro
@Narwaro Ай бұрын
Heat treating is a black hole. Once you get sucked in, its over. Basically every alloy behaves very differently. For some steels like O1 it does make absolutely zero sense to temper them down because its also thoughest when its hard. While for others its absolutely essential because it'll shatter when you look at it the wrong way when untempered. Its a very interesting niche.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah I am with you on that
@Barnzeys
@Barnzeys Ай бұрын
Do you have a link to the hardness tester you used?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I don’t but it’s a leeb style Chinese clone on eBay. Quick Google search will bring it up it’s blue about 150$
@RossiDeakin0406
@RossiDeakin0406 Ай бұрын
Great tip for removing scale out of heat treated threads is to get a screw of matching threads, just hand grind a chunk/ relief off the leading edges approximately half the diameter of the screw,an about the same along the length, run this thru your holes and you'll see the crap that it removes,was that a form tap i seen you using?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for the tip. I’m kind of thinking I was using a form tap on accident without knowing it.
@MrRadtech22
@MrRadtech22 Ай бұрын
Nice job
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@rodneykiemele4721
@rodneykiemele4721 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, Love your videos, Sir. Thank you very much for all that you do.Was wondering if you ever have shown the grinder you used for the internal bore, before ? It looked interesting.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Not yet it’s a cheap long neck Pnuematic die grinder.
@RichFife
@RichFife Ай бұрын
I typically use my 3 flute Guhring taps to clean holes in material that's in the low 40c scale range.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
That’s good to know
@andypughtube
@andypughtube Ай бұрын
There is information in my old Machierys Handbok on cutting that style of clutch. Though I think it assumes you are using a horizontal mill with an angled-face cutter.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
Interesting let me know what page it’s on
@andypughtube
@andypughtube 22 күн бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Page 571 of the 12th edition.
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP Ай бұрын
Well done Kyle. Thanks for sharing.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks Randy
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF Ай бұрын
Regarding Rockwell C hardness: If you are getting 16-18 HRC, you are on the wrong scale. C scale is useful from 30-70 HRC, anything belowe that you are better with Brinell scales.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
👍
@TheAllelluja13
@TheAllelluja13 Ай бұрын
You can do the heat treat with screws inside the tapped holes to prevent the scale getting there.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Excellent idea
@Dogfather66227
@Dogfather66227 18 күн бұрын
I was fortunate to stumble into your channel a couple weeks ago and have found it enjoyable and useful. Nice machining work on this one. I am curious to know why you considered heat treatment necessary for the AISI 4130 chromoly replacement part. It seems to me that if the failed cast iron part lasted say, 30 years that the chromoly one could go as long without it. Do you think that hardening needed due to the material that it engages?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 18 күн бұрын
Probably not, more so I wanted to minimize wear on the dogs. The front of the dogs are worn on the two machines that I’ve looked at and also I just wanted an excuse to try some heat treating.
@dougeing6521
@dougeing6521 Ай бұрын
There is so much metallurgy knowledge needed as part of being a machinist. How many years of schooling and OTJ training have you completed to get to where you are?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Zero I am self taught
@dougeing6521
@dougeing6521 Ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Okay. It’s obvious that you did not wake up one morning and all of a sudden you were a machinist. Did you apprentice under someone?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
@@dougeing6521 no I did not. Your right I did not wake up one morning and become a machinist. I learned through trial and error over several years I have no formal training or mentor. I wish I did
@billbeevers6864
@billbeevers6864 24 күн бұрын
So what was the finished hardness after last heating ?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
I think it was in the 30s like 36 or so
@stephenmeeks684
@stephenmeeks684 Ай бұрын
Excellent work and explanation. Thank you.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@gexas38
@gexas38 Ай бұрын
great video and camera shots...was that an indexer u used to mill the scallops out? Also one request when u can mention it is the speeds and feeds of the milling operations so i can get a sense of what u are using. this would help me in my own machining.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Super spacer. Honestly best way to learn is by feel. I have no idea what I run I just do what feels right.
@gexas38
@gexas38 Ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair makes sense thanks for the feed back
@georgeelliott7353
@georgeelliott7353 Ай бұрын
Do you trust those calipers to the tenths? Nice parts man!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Nope I use micrometers off camera a lot
@transmitterguy478
@transmitterguy478 Ай бұрын
Fascinating series and I enjoy watching it. But, how does that oven cook a pizza?🤣
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
That’s a good point I should try it I bet perfectly.
@ianloy1854
@ianloy1854 Ай бұрын
Love the work you do. A reason they MAY have made it our of CI is so that it is self lubricating. Steel on CI. You now have steel on steel (I think) and so you will probably need to provide some lubrication to it. Perhaps something dry like graphite powder would work.... Also the tap you used was fine as you were hand tapping and so could stop when you felt resistance. But that type of tap is typically for through holes as it pushes the chip ahead of the tap. A hand tap keeps it in the groove and a machine tap moves it to the back of the tap
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
True
@endurofurry
@endurofurry Ай бұрын
As someone who works with resin printers and the traditional FDM style every day for my own company. On any printer you need to account for shrinking. For your parts, a few thow won't change much. But I don't want some poor dude taking your advice to print parts and use them to measure from and cut something critical slightly too small. I may mention that in a video to not forget to account for shrinkage.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I do, I scale them and measure the prints and reprint them until they are accurate.
@endurofurry
@endurofurry Ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair I imagine you do but someone starting out will not understand this. It may be obvious to you and I but a large amount of people do not understand this. I see it all the time where people order stuff from us without spec sheets and leave the tolerance slot blank in our form was just saying a 10-second "be careful prints shrink ever so slightly so make sure to compensate" may save some new backyard machinist a costly mistake. A mistake like that could leave someone unfamiliar with this kind of work to blame equipment or even drop the hobby.
@Hopalong..75
@Hopalong..75 10 күн бұрын
The piece looks alot like the compensator on a Harley Davidson crankshaft
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 8 күн бұрын
Hmm interesting
@zx9rturbo402
@zx9rturbo402 Ай бұрын
Kyle, I have made it to minute 38:00 and I lost count as to how many times you have said that dimensions or tolerances did not matter on what ever you were measuring. Is there any features of the parts you are making that dimensions matter. I am new to machining so trying to learn from "you, CEE, ABOM79" etc.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
On this part really only the bore is critical. Critical is relative term. If it’s 1-5thou I call it critical if it’s 10+ thou either way I call it non-critical
@globalrezzanate9399
@globalrezzanate9399 Ай бұрын
Only advice I would give is....use your speed range more.... Drilling with HSS should never turn any swarf blue and countersinking should always be low speed high feed. But, otherwise well done dude.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks good points
@PatHardesty-q5g
@PatHardesty-q5g Ай бұрын
Good as usual, but did I miss it or what, where did you land on hardness.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Sorry I think I neglected to mention. 28-35 if I remember correctly
@ThePottingShedWorkshop
@ThePottingShedWorkshop Ай бұрын
Very good job! Congratulations on a job well done!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@peterparsons7141
@peterparsons7141 Ай бұрын
Really good video. I think you are going in the right direction with doing in-house heat treatment. The benefits far outweigh any potential downside. In this case you knocked it out of the park, and that should provide sense of pride and satisfaction. But the long term investment in yourself is priceless. Good on you ! You probably going to look back and wonder why you were hesitant, thats another learning experience entirely. Ps. My uncle was real old school, from another world almost. His peers made everything in-house, EVERYTHING! Think Leonard Lee and men like him. North America seemed to loose manufacturing, but I think things are going back the other way. Many new small foundaries today, which used to be very common. With new machines and guys like you, I see a very bright future for North America manufacturing . The part you fabricated was new old stock $7k, I would think you could setup to make a run of XX # and make a profit. But I think it demonstrates this work has a big future especially if 75 years of IC engine production is lacking support.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah I probably could. Low demand I would imagine
@carlbyington5185
@carlbyington5185 Ай бұрын
I'm worried...... Now that your making all these parts so stout, The first "jam" your motor's gonna end up lodged into the ceiling somewhere, LOL
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
lol yeah I get that.
@RealSideQuest
@RealSideQuest Ай бұрын
Awesome work, my friend. I work on old Rovers in SLC and can't say how many times having some basic machining skills would save my bacon. Your explanation and attention to detail lets me at least get a ballpark understanding of what goes on and how some problems could be solved from the perspective of a machinist instead of a mechanic.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
That’s awesome keep up the good work. Glad I could help
@tacticalrabbit308
@tacticalrabbit308 Ай бұрын
You learn by doing a task or job
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Indeed
@car9167
@car9167 Ай бұрын
What's that tool you use for hardness testing? A name of website where you got it from, would help . Thank you
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
eBay. It’s a Chinese blue tester I think it was about 160$, it’s some Chinese brand.
@50shadesofrust65
@50shadesofrust65 Ай бұрын
Good work and video too. Your channel is becoming my favorite machinery video to watch and learn from.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Wow, thanks! I appreciate that
@jackpledger8118
@jackpledger8118 Ай бұрын
What was the final hardness after tempering?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
30-34rockwell
@miguelfernandez2325
@miguelfernandez2325 Ай бұрын
Fantastic job. Well done
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@jaredcowell5470
@jaredcowell5470 Ай бұрын
I’m really loving this boring mill project, Kyle. Thanks for taking us along for the ride. I really appreciate the context you give as to why you make certain design or machining decisions. Great stuff!! PS We need Vanover merch!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah I know I need a pateron too. Got a list of stuff to do.
@gerryoneill8881
@gerryoneill8881 Ай бұрын
Great work, well done.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@jhaggerty1822
@jhaggerty1822 26 күн бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
What’s up, Joe? Hope your bridgeports going well.
@ColinLennard
@ColinLennard Ай бұрын
Interesting. Well done! A high standard - that is getting to be normal. Why did/do you put that block at the end where you normally put a hole. Was it because you cut that piece off? there was another piece that you also cut off, what are you going to do with them?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I am confused what time stamps are you referring to.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thank you
@ColinLennard
@ColinLennard Ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair To explain my questions I'll give you the time so that you can see what I am asking about. 1) 12:09 why the block? 2) 24:41 I don't know what it is called but the way you removed it I thought that you might be keeping it. 3) 39:23 again the way that you removed it I thought it was so to keep it.
@shootgp
@shootgp Ай бұрын
That's common practice, it's so you can use the tail stocking to help support the weight of a large work piece without center drilling it. This technique is also used in pressure turning thin parts that can't be chucked.
@RJMachine62
@RJMachine62 Ай бұрын
Great job! Which hardness tester was that?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Check above comments
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
@@RJMachine62 answering the same question from multiple people gets repetitive
@neffk
@neffk Ай бұрын
Consider necking down the screws that hold the dogs in place. If you crash the spindle, something is going to break and it may as well be the screws. RTV the screw heads, though, so they don't fall out of their counterbores and get into the ring gear
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah good points
@Unrivaledanime
@Unrivaledanime Ай бұрын
Kyle print out the US Navy heat treating procedures they are very detailed if you can’t find it I can send you a copy
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Vanovercustoms@gmail.com send it over
@theodoreshasta7846
@theodoreshasta7846 Ай бұрын
PUUURFECT! 👏
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks
@blandp11
@blandp11 Ай бұрын
Great video! I'm curious if there was a specific reason you choose not to center drill for the tail stock center but rather used the center with a pusher plate?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I don’t remember honestly
@CrisHarrison
@CrisHarrison Ай бұрын
Question what was the puck thing you put on the live center and why? 😊~~ Cris H
@seanrodden6151
@seanrodden6151 Ай бұрын
I think because he rough faced that end because he was turning that end into a spigot to chuck it the other way around. The puck has a taper and with the cone of the center, it can adjust for slight imperfections in the rough facing. The workpiece was quite heavy at that stage so the puck helped spread the force over a larger area.
@shootgp
@shootgp Ай бұрын
"Pressure Pad" or "Drive Puck" or some mangled combination of those words is what it's called. 😂😂 It kinda depends on who you ask and how old they are I guess. Any, that is just something you use to help hold a large or heavy work piece securely without drilling a center hole. You can also use them for pressure turning thin material where chucking it would crush it.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah they beat me to it
@johngassmann9581
@johngassmann9581 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate the detailed explanation of your design process. It was fascinating.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC Ай бұрын
1:39 .. I agree 100%!!! ... Soak that machine in the time of your choosing!! .. And it will forever serve you well!!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Indeed
@johnlee8231
@johnlee8231 Ай бұрын
What kind of tap was that? Didn't look like a normal machine or gun tap. Almost looked like a roll tap?
@ianm1470
@ianm1470 Ай бұрын
Yes I was thinking the same it looked like a TiN coated roll tap. Perhaps it produces a stronger thread than spiral or fluted taps ???
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Maybe it was I thought roll taps looked a bit different but I am not an expert. I mostly use gun taps and spiral taps but in smaller sizes that’s what I had on hand so that’s what I used. I’ll look into that though your probably right
@Brian55126
@Brian55126 Ай бұрын
Roll taps don't make chips.. I saw chips
@horus10
@horus10 Ай бұрын
Perfect as always
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@MrZimmaframe
@MrZimmaframe Ай бұрын
So how many hours do you have for the project and cost?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
100$ materials maybe 20 hours
@ronhawley
@ronhawley Ай бұрын
Excellent work
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Many thanks
@larry3064
@larry3064 Ай бұрын
Very well done 👏
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@RayFinkle
@RayFinkle Ай бұрын
Great work!!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I appreciate it
@JohannBorgMyatt-y8f
@JohannBorgMyatt-y8f Ай бұрын
Hello Kyle, would you be able to list the link of the tool used to measure the hardness of the part in 54:13 ? Thanks in advance. Keep it up with your content. Huge follower
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I can’t post like in comments. Go on eBay type in hardness tester. It’s a copy off the 800$ leeb unit it’s blue and Chinese and about 150$
@joewest2560
@joewest2560 Ай бұрын
In the interest of better understanding machining since my limited knowledge is with some tig welding, machining on a 10" lathe and a benchtop mill, my instant concern and thought when you mentioned going from cast iron to steel was risking vibration , was that ever a thought/concern?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
Not really
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule Ай бұрын
Great work on the piece and the video. For me, tapping holes are the part that scares me the most. I hate to go through all that work and end up ruining a part because a tap broke!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah agreed
@shootgp
@shootgp Ай бұрын
Yes Sir, we've all been there. The worst part is breaking the tap on the last hole. Sadly, mathematically, for a variety of reasons, that is always where the tap has the highest probability of breaking....
@aethelfreda
@aethelfreda Ай бұрын
​@@shootgpI've broken a tap on the last hole a couple of times. If there is one thing I hate it is tapping blind holes.
@Jacob-64
@Jacob-64 Ай бұрын
Awesome job Kyle. Very interesting project . The part turned out very nice . You now have a new subscriber all the way from the Scottish Highlands here in the UK
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Welcome aboard. Thank you
@jamesriordan3494
@jamesriordan3494 Ай бұрын
Great work Kyle -
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks
@fredhoyt6900
@fredhoyt6900 Ай бұрын
Great video!!!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@Chris-bg8mk
@Chris-bg8mk Ай бұрын
Brother, don’t be hard on yourself. You’re a heckuva machinist and an engineer!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Appreciate that
@euclidallglorytotheloglady5500
@euclidallglorytotheloglady5500 Ай бұрын
Great work! Definitely deserves a pat on the back!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I appreciate that 👍
@jasonboyle7898
@jasonboyle7898 Ай бұрын
Can you leave a link for the heat treat oven please??
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Added it to description for you
@jasonboyle7898
@jasonboyle7898 Ай бұрын
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair thank you
@deepwinter77
@deepwinter77 Ай бұрын
Nice job
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thank you
@stevechambers9166
@stevechambers9166 Ай бұрын
Nice work Kyle 👍👍👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@rufustoad1
@rufustoad1 Ай бұрын
Nice work dude
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@leec2106
@leec2106 Ай бұрын
I am surprised you did not cut off a large chunk with a band saw leaving another piece for some other project.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah that’s one approach
@reinholdhummler2459
@reinholdhummler2459 Ай бұрын
sehr, sehr toller guter Job Doppeldaumen👍👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@prestiluso
@prestiluso 14 күн бұрын
there is a channel where you can learn a lot, the Kurtis channel "Cutting Edge Engineering Australia"
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 8 күн бұрын
Bump
@bernardwill7196
@bernardwill7196 Ай бұрын
Kyle you made it. The Lucas get a few improvements, that is fine. You can be proud , you are a very good machinist. Greetings from Germany.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Laura-wc5xt
@Laura-wc5xt Ай бұрын
Fantastic Kyle . Cheers from Orlando …paulie brown
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Hey Paul.
@gworx-247
@gworx-247 Ай бұрын
I like your channel from the first day...always cool stuff 🤟
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@waxore1142
@waxore1142 Ай бұрын
You seem to be keeping possible future owners of the machine in mind while you make these parts. That's another reason why i said your like a seasoned machinist. My father was a machinist. Tool and die maker to be exact. He did teach me about that. I see you playing with the part😜. hard not to get creative when hogging off material. lol
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yeah indeed. Of everyone respects themselfs and others we move forward as a society. When we keep pushing problems off on the next guy it just creates long term issues. If possible I like to stop those issues so the buck stops with me lol.
@cvanderput
@cvanderput Ай бұрын
great vid! where is the rest? loving your channel
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thank you. What rest
@carlbyington5185
@carlbyington5185 Ай бұрын
Great job on the tapper work (sorry about the pucker factor) Now, i'm back to getting out a Lexus crank bolt, that a VERY nice person somewhere used Loctite, So far we are on a 8' pipe cheater, No luck !
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks have fun
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 Ай бұрын
Great job Kyle, that has come out perfectly. A nice bit of awkward machining in those angular clutch dogs too and pretty good for a first attempt ( I don't count the practice runs!)
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yes indeed
@lawrencewillard6370
@lawrencewillard6370 Ай бұрын
A wiser one said, make a wooden model first. You did, 3D model is better.😊
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Yes thanks
@craigywaigy4703
@craigywaigy4703 Ай бұрын
Why are you reinventing the wheel?! The drive dogs on the clutch are used to protect the gear train from over stress, and the cast iron part is hard by virtue of work hardening(essentially the peening of the surface by percussion loading), so making an ENTIRELY H&T steel alternative is adding NO value to the machine? BTW the component is cast iron, as it requires self(dry) lubrication.to minimise static friction........ Soz, I'm triggered, just like when people scrape lathe beds instead of saddle ways etc.... ie. Just because one can do something, does not mean that one NEEDS to, especially in machine tool rebuilding! Keep safe and well. 👍😮😮
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
👍
@rairai3517
@rairai3517 Ай бұрын
Seriously dude you're going to burn up your bits get some cooling liquid in there ......just saying.......
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 22 күн бұрын
It’s no big deal. I re-sharpen large drills almost every time I use them. I don’t have any flood cooling on any of my machines yet one day.
@rairai3517
@rairai3517 22 күн бұрын
@VanoverMachineAndRepair and each time you grind them to sharpen them unless you reharden the material you're just grinding metal together not really drilling , but I guess if you want to buy a lot of tooling it's up to you it's your money .......just saying.......
@howardtoob
@howardtoob Ай бұрын
OK, so I'm going to give you some advice on the many GREAT videos you generate. PLEASE know that this is constructive. Try to avoid the speaking cadence trap that too many speakers fall into. If you listen to yourself you will notice that your speaking cadence has a pattern instead of sounding natural. Typically there will be a point you are making (you and SO MANY others) and you will have a lilt on the last word of the first 2-4 sentences and a natural ending to the last word of the final sentence. Then this rhythm starts again in your next speaking point. Just let the words flow as if you were speaking with a normal conversational tempo. Watch abomb79, Keith Fenner, Keith Rucker and other people with years of experience. You are doing an outstanding job and I am looking for to watching your continued success. Remember, it's better to sound smart then be smart.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Ай бұрын
Thanks for advice on how to speak
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