Machining a Pair of Nuts | Lion Lathe Restoration

[@edsmachine93]

Very nice work Kyle, I enjoyed the whole process. I read the comments, and seen the one where the guy said to buy and or purchase the nut from Lyon. And what is your time worth. I for one never appreciate people saying or doing these things. Many times over the years, I had to make a tool and or a fixture because I had to. Could be financial, time and simply necessity. You are show casing your talents and skills. I for one appreciate that. Some people that say things probably could not make these nuts. Much respect Kyle.👍👍 Have a good weekend.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks for saying that Ed I really appreciate it. You’re completely right I hundred percent agree with you. I’m over here busting my butt to actually do the job and then film it because I love filming and sharing with you guys. Then people who have done contributed nothing in the process come in here and comment with absolutely zero steak in the game.

[@hughobrien4139]

I really appreciate the level of thought put into these projects. Being in this line of work and knowing the thought processing for just work set up takes time, then the tooling details. The work arounds to accommodate the machining steps when the world isn’t perfect. I see the struggles and very much respect the determination. That project turned out nice. Thank you for sharing your works.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

I appreciate the kind words

[@Jerrydmech]

Excellent job! Looking forward to the next one.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks!

[@ypaulbrown]

fantastic, all those different color machines in the shop look like a LegoLand party..... really enjoy all you are doing, cheers from Florida,Paul

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

lol true

[@annacalise8336]

Man I always get excited when I see a new video of yours drop, I really enjoy them, you do great work and I can't wait for the next one!!

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Absolutely thank you

[@Chromevulcan]

The wild color scheme of your machines is hilarious! I've finally gotten the last machine for my garage at home, the Bridgeport. I'm powder coating EVERYTHING purple as I go through each piece.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

That is awesome! Sounds like cool resto

[@lucasandri5462]

The nut came out really good! I've made a modification to my lathe in order to have a similar system on the cross slide and it works really well.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Cool good to know

[@hersch_tool]

RULE #1 of restoring/fixing anything; It is ALWAYS going to be more complicated than it really seems like it should be. LOL. If you've got standard tools, you're gonna need metric. If you got metric, well then of course you'll need standard. If you've got both? Well good sir, have you met Mr Whitworth?... 😂 Great work, as always.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

lol yep your right. I haven’t had to do any Wentworth, but I’m sure it will come around to bite me soon enough.

[@ryebis]

@@VanoverMachineAndRepairTime to buy a Hardinge HLV-H ? 😅

[@gbspikyfish]

I've restored a couple of old British Startrite table saws over the years. Good machines, but there's a mix of BSW, metric, and BA threads across various parts of the machine. The main spindle has (from memory) a BSW thread on both ends, but the nut on one end has the external dimensions of what would be appropriate for a BSF nut... and the bearings that press onto the spindle are metric.

[@jamesriordan3494]

Always a pleasure to watch your thoughtful craftsmanship

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thank you

[@ypaulbrown]

Your choice of ways to get around the Metric issue is what I would have tried.... Right On.....great watching the progress...PB

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks Paul

[@COCORKIRL-ul4jd]

More expert work! I'm looking forward to the next one.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks

[@y0taman]

Great job as always, love your dedication

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks again!

[@mdlanor5414]

I find it hard to believe that you don’t get a lot more subscribers and views on your videos. You are just as talented as the best manual machinists on KZbin. Your KZbin Videos are really interesting and well edited Another thing I’ve a hard time with. Your KZbin channel has never come up on recommended videos. When I mainly watch Machinist KZbin Channel Videos. My son told me about your KZbin Channel. Anyway I automatically subscribed to your KZbin Channel. I will over time watch all of your Videos. Something I’m lame on and forget to do a lot. Is to tap the like button on many videos I like. I’ll make a effort to not forget to tap the like button

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Awe thanks you for the kind words means a lot

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Another homerun there Kyle. Nice work. 👍

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks hilltop we should chat sometime love what your doing over there as well my number is [phone] Kyle

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Yes sir. Sending you a text now.@@VanoverMachineAndRepair

[@rs2024-s4u]

Great video composition showing details of actual work, more tech commentary during machining such as tooling used, speed of lath, depth of cuts, costs of materials, and time to complete etc. Show interferrence fit and how accomplished by pressing or use hot oil - liquid nitrogen? Your practical problem solving of issues always faced when remaking parts no longer avail. is compelling and useful to all who watch, Thanks. Ray Stormont

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

We have a detailed follow up releasing in a few days

[@CNTHINGS]

Could you have jam nutted this in the collar and done the wrench notches that way with more clearance? Either way very cool turned out great!

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Possibly!

[@EdwardLoftis]

My leadscrew is 1/4-20 and the nut is a type of plastic. No slop.

[@rodneykiemele4721]

Loving this restoration.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

It’s a good one

[@mikebryan544]

Great vid buddy cheers really enjoying the lion lathe playlist cheers

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@edcallahan6952]

Excellent work and video thought you might make and internal thread both nuts install main nut then reinstall old adjustable nut and when lathe is up and running cut outside metric threads on new adjustable nut then install but excellent adaptation will work great thanks for sharing ed

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Absolutely Ed glad you liked it

[@KodiakWoodchuck]

Great job on doze nuts!

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks!

[@belatoth3763]

The counter nut is for cancelling the play. Just enough to set it properly and you re done

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Agreed

[@frankk8018]

That was a great video, thanks for posting that. Cheers.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@dazzhan9826]

Great video. I just wondering though if you're having issues with the chuck on the first lathe ? The part seemed to be out of true quite often compared to the Colchester.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

First lathe? You mean the green lathe? The 6 jaw is about 1 thousands TIR. Green lathe 3 jaw is about 2-4 thousands

[@mr_mcgoo2632]

Stupid question , but watching you bore the hole with the drill bit and the part wobbling all over on the drill bit. Wouldn't it be prudent to true up the outside of the bar prior to boring the hole ? Keep in mind that i'm a mechanic and not a machinist .

[@pawekowalski7469]

👍👍 Good job. Greting from Poland.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thank you

[@ElltoRToisedelPaPito]

Happy Saturday 🌴☀️

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Same to you!

[@efektmurowany]

That is a hell of a great job man!😊

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Appreciate it

[@MPenzlin]

nice work

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks

[@RambozoClown]

Did you try a sample plug threaded 13 TPI or 12.5 TPI if your lathe has that? The thread error to 2mm would not be much over that short distance.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Great idea I didn’t but that would have probably worked. Hind sight is 2020

[@JFirn86Q]

What alloy of bronze did you use? Any reason why that specific alloy? There seems to be a lot of choices!

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Probably bearing bronze idk lol whatever McMaster Carr had that made since.

[@billdoodson4232]

I would have thought that your Colchester would have done metric threads, even if you had to change gears.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

It does not unfortunately. If I had the correct change, gears, it might, but I calculated the gears I need, and I cannot find them anywhere.

[@garysgarage101]

@@VanoverMachineAndRepairI’m quite surprised there were no change gears you could use to do metric threading on the Colchester. I have a metric Boxford (British lathe) and I do both metric and imperial threading all the time with change gears. My Colchester is Imperial (still restoring it) however I am planning on doing metric threading on it down the road. If I find a solution I’ll chime in here.

[@pipereed1]

Awesome video. You are aware you can cut metric threads on the 13" Colchester Clausing you have? I have the manual if you need it. I'd be more than happy to send you it by email.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Yes, and no. The machine I have has the ability to cut metric threads, but it’s not set up for it. Colchester made many different variations of the same machine. The ones in Europe or set to cut metric and the ones in America were set to cut imperial and then they also sold machines that could do both, but those are more rare. I can cut Metric threads using a transposing gear, but I just haven’t gone down the route of figuring that out yet on that machine.

[@roylucas1027]

Great video.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

I appreciate it

[@MrADVANCEDTEK]

Would it have been possible to make the new nut with the nut you were going to replace? Seems like you the adjuster would do it's job enough to complete the new nut and the new nut would not have the play of the original. I always had the belief that a useful machine can make it's own repair parts to some extent. Even make modifications if used by a clever operater. But I don't know the total info for replacing the first nut if it had that adjustment it must be fubar....

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Yeah technically but this machine is torn down. It cannot make its own parts

[@ypaulbrown]

17:38 looks like your part was trying to escape and jump back into the jaws.......came out great though.......

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thank you probably

[@georgegeorgiev2610]

Super surprised your lathes don't have metric threading

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Yeah

[@henkclaassen9267]

Is it posible to cut metric thread on your lathe using a 127 teeth change gear in the threading setup? That is what a lot of machinists in European side of the world do when threading with an non-metric leadsrew. It depends on your lathe of course. Not all makes offer that conversion. 127 being 1/2 of 254 makes sort of ‘bridge’ in calculation between metric and inch.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Correct in theory. There is not enough room for that size gear on my lathe. Clausing does make some smaller gears that are close enough in ratio but they are hard to come by not only by clausing but in general because of their prime number of teeth.

[@johnlee8231]

Nice job

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thank you

[@richardwaite4795]

Love your work. But as you are working around moving equipment and welding I would not wear your ring while in the shop. I have seen what happens when you get the ring caught on something. You could lose a finger.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Yep

[@ericjedgar]

My dad had a welder arc pass through his ring. Now he has a permanent scar there.

[@jimhunt5259]

good stuff!

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Appreciate it!

[@mattholden5]

@Vanover Customs Kyle, good choice hiring a video editor. You two are already starting to make a much more polished video.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks. I appreciate it. I am curious if people can tell who edited what. I actually edited this one. Chris will be editing Saturdays video. Right now I edit one week he edits the other so we can do 1 video per week but we got two weeks to work on 1 video.

[@kimmoj2570]

Metric is standard. Even USA have been metric since US and British adopted inch of exactly 25.4mm in 1930s. Americans just convert metric measurements to customary units.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Sure

[@JesseSchoch]

2mm pitch to 10TPI is only 0.05% error, wonder if you could have just done that...

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Prolly

[@JesseSchoch]

@@VanoverMachineAndRepairoops, 13TPI not 10... edited.

[@orville697]

I know it sounds a bit rough but could you not of used the steel collar as a die as it's only brass your wanting to thread. Love it how you all hate metric over the pond 😂😂😂

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Maybe. I don’t hate it just not used to it

[@hugojcardoso]

The part slipped at 17:37 :)

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Probably

[@EdwardLoftis]

Never use the hand as a hammer, no joke.

[@terrymoorecnc2500]

M39x2 is a standard size. I would have bought them from Lion. Spend your time on something that you can bill for.

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Not everything is just a simple business decision. It makes no business sense to fully go through this machine as you will soon see. I’m doing it because I enjoy it and the result will benefit my business but this isn’t a standard process where I’m just trying to fix the machine and get it back running immediately.

[@terrymoorecnc2500]

@@VanoverMachineAndRepair How much is your time worth?

[@randy-yk1yk]

I can't speak for him, but my time is worth whatever the hell I say it's worth. Experience gained, relaxing and enjoying the craft without watching the clock, pride in the fact it's my work, these are all things that go into preventing burnout. If he had not taken the time to film making this part, you wouldn't have a video to share your profound wisdom on. @@terrymoorecnc2500

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

@@terrymoorecnc2500 not much if I am making a video for you guys

[@American.Divergent]

I can imagine the views a video would get making a part vs buying a part 🤔 someone got some education from this video. I personally never understood buying high dollar parts when you own a machine shop. I for one wasn’t going to pay Logan $400+ for one gear when I could make it myself

[@KatonBoy]

for the algorithm

[@VanoverMachineAndRepair]

Thanks