Machining Away a Cosmetic Side Door and Making it Real !!!

[@rootvalue]

I vote for aluminum door. As much as I love brass, I don’t think the door should draw attention to itself. Brass for the hinges and handle will already be attractive enough. KISS. 😉👍 Thanks for sharing, Joe.

[@minigpracing3068]

If the door is going to be painted, then it really doesn't matter what it's made from, so I'd say aluminum for the door. Hinges could be blued steel or bright brass, not sure what color it will be painted.

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

​@@minigpracing3068He's never painted any of his previous models

[@duaneglover9283]

Agreed

[@Papi--jb1yo]

What he said. 😁 Love the shelf unit too. Awesome as always Joe. 👍👍

[@NottinghamshireNick]

I’d go for aluminium door with brass hinges and handle. From memory none of the other models have had a brass door and I agree with Rootvalue in that it’s a door not a main feature, but as always it’s a personal opinion. Sometimes understated is more impactful than ‘in your face’. I had thought the tabs on the right were for cam locks to hold the door closed so you didn’t need to mill an undercut for the tab. Prefer your shelving solution though. Great video Joe, as always, looking forward to your next. Cheers, Nick

[@thelbekk]

Aluminum door, I think. More realistic, and with the added feature of being a surprise for someone who didn't at first realise the door would open. :)

[@joell439]

Love the shelf details 👍👍😎👍👍. My vote is an aluminum door with brass hardware.

[@stragenmitsuko]

A fine example of CAD . I use it all the time making parts for vintage cars . Cardboard aided design :)

[@joepie221]

I hardly ever do that, but it worked out well.

[@ChazzC]

Aluminum door, with Brass hinge & knob hardware: that will pretty it up a little, while maintaining the overall look of a cast machine.

[@hdmungeryt]

I think you should use a T-slot cutter (or similar) and enlarge the inside of the cavity beyond the door opening...

[@davidmyhre2720]

Hey Joe, Always a treat. Aluminum door brass hardware and a brass inlay around the outer edge of door. You asked Hahaha. Thank You Sir

[@MHolt3573]

Aluminum door with brass hinges and a brass knob.

[@bobtorrence3461]

I would vote for aluminum door, sand blasted to make it look like a casting. Nice job Joe!

[@tonywilson4713]

Good choice

[@hemanthharrilall6469]

That door impression removal is ecxellent. By the way, Im not a machinist, but never miss a video of yours. Thanks. Brass door.

[@slyfox7429]

I agree an Al- u - mini -um door as manufacturer probably chose for reduced cost. Brass hinges

[@dperfetti1]

Aluminum door with brass hinges.

[@jameslezak7882]

Aluminum door! Brass hinges and latch handle! Good stuff Joe! Thanks for your time!

[@mikepurswell3814]

Alum door (blasted to look cast) w/brass hardware. Anybody else feel like if Joe read a phone book it would reaffirm how much of a machinist that I am not?

[@Radiotexas]

Let's talk about the "blaster" when you have a chance. Great job Joe!

[@Dagonius.]

The latches are for a shelf to seat the holy grail! Nice work Joe! Aluminium door and brass features.

[@stumccabe]

I think the door should be aluminum/aluminium - reason: on the fill sized machine the body and the door would both be made of the same material. A brass door would make it look like a shiny toy rather than a model! (To be honest I'd prefer that the PM Research models were cast iron.) Thanks for another excellent video Joe. PS If you wanted to invisibly fill the porosity of this aluminium casting you could make a filler of fine aluminium powder and epoxy - super fine aluminium powder is available from "cold casting" suppliers like "Smooth-On" in the US or Alec Tiranti in the UK.

[@VanguardSys]

You better make a damn overhead power system to power these models!!!!!!! great job - inspirational - my son is making the sharper using sherline tool i got him - all because of you!!!!!!

[@mathewmolk2089]

An operating diorama complete with boiler and the steam engine. - Joe Pi detailing on the "timbers" would be worth watching in itself.

[@VanguardSys]

@@mathewmolk2089 agreed - joe sounds like he is from new york! - love it

[@petepeterson4540]

crafty on the shelving

[@Preso58]

I had predicted that the lugs were shelf supports and then you stole my thunder by showing the end result! I'm voting for an aluminium door, with a raised edge, and 3 louvres, no, 5. Regards, Preso

[@StuartsShed]

It’s great to see unique improvements to these models. They add a lot, and really show how individual flair can be added. A brass door would look stunning!

[@BillySugger1965]

I vote for a brass door, unpainted it’ll show a nice contrast. Love the neat left for the hinge mountings and cam lock door latch points too 😉.

[@colincreedtattoomachines]

Being that I'm an old Jeweller/Goldsmith, I think do the door "hinges & handle" in brass & the door itself in blasted aluminium. That's based on the assumption other elements like gears & dials will be in the brass, so the door fixtures compliment them.

[@dustyduds3953]

When you slid the shelves in at the end I literally gasped and said that's beautiful!

[@pebrede]

I would suggest an Aluminium door, painted,with a brass name/data plate and brass fist door lock handles, hinges would be painted so steel for strength. Great build and looking forward to completed project. Take care.

[@150flyer4]

What about a stamped sheet metal door? It would be interesting to see that done in miniature!!

[@anan0moose]

The large protrusions are for the hinge pockets and the small ones are for the door latches.

[@seamusbolton215]

Entertained and educated with every single video, thank you

[@ranchterrachannel9364]

Great build. Love the videos. My two cents are for the door, go bling. Polished aluminium door with raised polished brass trim around the edge of the door including hinges and latch in brass. Then the remainder of the mill body gloss black. And other brass bits throughout. 😬

[@carlcondray763]

Well whatever it ends up I know it will blow us away. How bout going with Aluminum door with brass accents such as the hinges and door handles but when you display it you will have to leave the door ajar to show the inside contents unless you amaze us all with a window or screen in the door. Can’t wait to see ya make a set of cutters etc to our on the inside shelving . Anyhow way to go Joe!!!

[@georgehollowell9295]

I would machine the door from brass with a half-round beaded edge as on the casting originally. The center of the door has to be milled out to make the interior portion of the beading. Polish the beading for a high contrast. The recessed center of the door would be painted with the same paint used on the majority of the machine. Use painted hinges with a polished brass handle. Terrific job as usual. It is a joy to watch you build things.

[@HofsFinest]

Aluminum door for sure.

[@brandontscheschlog]

My guess is the ribs are for shelves. I would go with an aluminum door. Brass might look cool but it could also look out of place.

[@ianlulham]

Aluminium door (but only if pronounced correctly) and brass fittings. It's a UK thing. Another interesting video Joe, ta.

[@ItsMrAssholeToYou]

Alumium?

[@ianlulham]

Al la min yum@@ItsMrAssholeToYou

[@royreynolds108]

Slick! I love it. 👍 Just for bling, brass for the door.

[@brucematthews6417]

I'm guessing the rails you left are for shelf... Oh, never mind. I typed that and then your extra came on. I love the little insert that makes for a nice stable set of shelves.

[@eriklouw821]

Maybe for a shelf. As usual, always good to check your videos-full of useful tips.

[@ryan_mcme]

Awesome, as usual, Joe! Aluminum, definitely. Many thanks for sharing. Best to you and yours as we get into the holidays.

[@Dave.Wilson]

He only went and put shelves in it as well!!, The door has got to be the same as the machine, it would have been on a full sized one. Jus another amazing build from you Joe. Love it. Or you could just put an MDF one on it!!

[@paulsotheron710]

Excellent work Joe. Material for door:- Brass. 👍

[@g.tucker8682]

This is a realistic model so it, and the door, should be painted. Love the shelves

[@outsidescrewball]

WOW! What a mind bender…your design ideas and machining, artistry and craftsmanship….thank you for sharing/mentoring!! Munimula for the door, that was the planet Ruff & Ready cartoon visited when we were kids (always stuck in my head as the announcer said that’s Al spelled backwards)😂😂😂😂

[@joepie221]

Hi Chuck. Thanks for the input.

[@MichaelLloyd]

I like the idea of a brass door. And the shelves added a nice touch :)

[@rickymale8203]

The shelves were a touch of genius. Brilliant 👍

[@rickymale8203]

Oh, aluminium for the door please

[@joepie221]

Noted.

[@โนรีคอกเบิร์น]

Hi Joe, thanks. Alli or dural door, bead blasted so the blast grit doesnt get engrained (captured) in the door surface. Must have a polished brass handle but don't like alli hinges. So brass or steel hinges. Steel may seize with time. So it's brass hinges. Key for the door- lock must be stainless steel.

[@EatBreakfast912]

brass door for sure! thanks joe always a great video edit: love the bonus footage shelves in the casing, excellent use of space and the fit up with the rads is beautiful.

[@steveclark..]

I made another shelf for mine too, it only came with one fixed in place, I really didn't want to drill holes in the side or weld it in place, I used bits of wood for legs so it's more like a table sitting inside. LOL

[@christopherjarman9086]

Joe. Aluminium door brass hinges. With Advanced inovations logo on door !!!

[@joepie221]

Now we're talking. :)

[@vandalsgarage]

Ribs will be shelf supports. I like the brass door idea. Little bling to show it off.

[@mikepelelo5657]

Shelves, aluminum for the door. Thanks Joe! Oops, posted before I saw the end of the video. Oh well!

[@projectsfromtheworkbench]

Aluminum door...brass hinges

[@CorbinMusso88]

Yes.

[@StuartsShed]

Great combo.

[@Country_Bubba]

aluminum door as it will be closer to real world machine. Never seen a brass door on any of these type machines and I have been around since some of them were new also:})

[@ghl3488]

Thanks Joe, another really interesting approach to getting the results you want. The way you do things makes me expand the way I like at things, especially workholding. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Regards from Wales

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

“The finger gauge”. More accurate than any mechanical gauge. 👏👏👍😎

[@Fidd88-mc4sz]

Aluminium for the door, with brass-fitting - hinges, dogs, keyhole border etc Steel hinge-pins

[@geoffrobinson5584]

Brass door is my preference. Great addition of the shelves! Love your work and videos.

[@joepie221]

Thank you!

[@douglasnuckolls3748]

Hinge mounting points and door latch catch hard points.

[@frankward709]

Thanks for the video I really like the shelf and I enjoy my weekend watching the episodes thank you

[@mrc1539]

As much as I love Brass I think the door should be aluminum with Brass hardware . But I would appreciate which ever you choose . Thanks for always showing tricks and tips 😉 !

[@richardoleson7934]

Aluminum door please and brass for all the fiddly bits. Nice project so far. Thanks for letting us look over your shoulder!

[@joepie221]

Good call. Thanks for watching.

[@patricksullivan9951]

Hi Joe, well I think a Brass Door, with a window in it! A little Bondo will take care of the porous problem, plus it fulfills the "Sanding" & "Filing" requirements! Looking good so far!

[@markstripes8237]

Door depends on your choice of paint color. If you go with gunmetal grey then aluminum painted with brass hinges and latch would look nice. But if you went with some hot rod color, like green metallic brass would be a spiffy choice. Something subtle like John Deere Green would look great with brass. You bonus material answered the question about the interior features, which I correctly guessed but didn't guess how you were going to do it. Brilliant!

[@joepie221]

Thanks. The shelves were a last minute design change, but it worked out well.

[@bertbergers9171]

Those shelves fit insanely well. Nice touch of Pie there, love it. Door should match the stand for material in my opinion, so aluminium and not brass of those are options.

[@Lord_Errol]

I vote for an aluminium door. Nice work.

[@mattholden5]

I like the idea of matched materials for the door if the final product won't be painted. Brass or copper hardware would be pretty slick with or without paint. Fantastic craftsmanship as usual. Thanks for bringing us along.

[@joepie221]

My pleasure.

[@Bobs-Wrigles5555]

I knew the protrusions were going to be for shelves, But you had me as to how you were going to fit them with such a big lug on the hinge side. Once again you think outside the square or in this case with a square. Personal preference on door material, Brass, oh so shiny and golden.

[@joepie221]

I do like shiny brass.

[@Treehouse1730]

Excellent as always!

[@robertkehr8860]

Brass hinges aluminum door. Thank you!!!

[@joepie221]

May go this way. Thanks.

[@stevenaegele5228]

shelf supports. Nice work!

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

Clever one piece double shelf. Aluminum for the door. A black crinkle finish paint job would look terrific, and hide the casting voids.

[@RROOBBWWAANN]

I think this is the first channel I subscribed to after watching the first video.

[@joepie221]

Thanks and welcome aboard. I'm flattered. If you're looking for something specific, leave a question, I'll try to direct you.

[@4pawsforge273]

I am a total novice. I have watched all of you tiny-tiny machine videos and per your previous comments on this build, the notches are for shelves of course! (Gotta have a place to place the tiny-tiny tooling that you will have for this masterpiece. You said aluminum or brass... I want to toss in one more level of difficulty for the Jedi Master - - - Copper!? How freaking cool would that look? Just saying? You do you and thank you for sharing. Love your content and especially your commentary. Please stay Awesomness!

[@ChrisB257]

I just knew this door would have to be ''Pied''! Great watching your approach to the milling - and the explanation of the MO. Some patient filing. All the prep' does a super job. I vote for aluminum door I think.

[@joepie221]

Thanks. Do it nice, or do it twice I always say.

[@tglackin2411]

Inside features=shelf brackets. Brass door preferred. But I trust your taste.

[@mce1919A4]

Nice work, thank you.

[@orgonewarrior1604]

Very nice Mr Pie, when you slid in the shelves insert that was pure magic(craftmanship). Thinking about the door itself, seeing that you will paint it, i would go for brass, otherwise the louvres (horizontal ventilation slits) will be too flimsy, if you decide this door needs them. Best regards from belgium

[@slypig24]

Looking forward to seeing the door. Now you have room for a auto lubricating oil tank, in your machined cavity.

[@onlooker251]

Hi Joe - it’s got to be alloy, cast preferably. 🙂👍

[@roberthiggins1142]

Another great video as usual, The ribs would be for some shelving & my vote for the door would be Aluminum, Paint it with a hammer tone finish to hide/fill the voids in the casting.

[@edwardhugus2772]

Great idea on what must be the shelf supports. Id like to say I'd of planned that in, too, but now im thinking it could have easily slipped my mind. I watch a lot of antique restoration, they use a sort of bondo before painting. They apply it, scrape excess off, then sand.....not that you want this smooth, but have you considered using that to fill in the voids from casting? Its your milling machine, the door material is whztever you like best....you just do you...

[@paulshermet535]

You know you love brass, especially if other parts are brass. Givver!

[@frankinpattaya]

Joe,,, I think the brass door will help set off all the extra work that you have put in,, regards Frank

[@joepie221]

Maybe the shelves should have been brass ??

[@peteengard9966]

Aluminum door with louvers.

[@stuartscott9646]

Champagne glass on the shelf is a nice touch!

[@markstripes8237]

Looks like a martini glass to me.

[@joepie221]

Shaken, not stirred.

[@michaelnoyes4817]

Alloy for the win 🏆

[@jhawker2895]

Brass ... Thanks for sharing ... Stay safe and well ....

[@Rick-co4hm]

brass door and hinges nice work

[@angelramos-2005]

Great video.Brass door,Joe-Thank you.

[@joepie221]

I may do both.

[@christurley391]

Thanks again

[@mrtomsr]

Brass door for the brass hinges. Beautiful work

[@BigAl4502]

X2 brass hinge and door handle, aluminium door

[@chucklabarreare8439]

Well, my vote is aluminum door brass hinges and latch. I knew the runners were for shelves based on how much the fake door bothered you. Loved the video!!!

[@devmeistersuperprecision4155]

Hey Joe, late to the show. The door is a great idea. Of course your using an AL door but we all know that’s the best idea. I was surprised at the porosity of the casting. As these are pin holes in AL, the cause is gassing. Al is prone to gassing and there are tricks using salts of various types to reduce gassing. JB weld may be the best solution to filling these cosmetic pores.

[@timothypowell5687]

Well Joe, awesome video as usual. I think it was 2 or 3 videos ago when you mentioned you were gonna do a door but not sure what you were gonna do it out of. I kinda threw it out there as a brass door. My reason for that was that since your attention to detail is unbelievable, it would just make sense for you. If you paint the machine, i was wondering what color the original would've been.. A regular aluminum door isn't going to highlight your work of art(IMHO) However, a dark green paint with a polished brass door would be an eye catcher, (to say the least). In the end it doesn't matter what material you use, it will still look good I'm sure. Thank you for the time you take to make these videos. I look forward to every one of them.

[@duanedrouillard2495]

You're the boss Joe. A brass door would look cool but if you are going to paint the finished model whatever material is easier to work with. I know you don't have issues with any material. Enjoy your videos, happy Thanksgiving from Calgary

[@532bluepeter1]

Thank you for another fine video Joe. I may have misunderstood your intention to use a cap head screw through the bosses as there does not seem to be room at the top of the cavity to accomodate a cap head internally.

[@joepie221]

The top boss gets drilled and threaded from the outside. I appreciate the question.

[@stevenhavener7327]

Lol I heard Glass or Al for the door, then it occurred to me, glass would be cool to display all the tools you will make for the mill .... best regards Steve

[@richardcooke9948]

Aluminum will blend with the casting color. I ground old needle files into chisels for doing fine work.

[@andymusgrove6590]

I think the weight of brass would be a nice touch for the door Joe 👍

[@TomokosEnterprize]

It's ALWAYS good to see you post a new one. You sound like all is well my friend.Brass would be ok but it will take too much of a visual aspect away from the machine. Hard call old friend. Only time will tell that story. Like I said up top it's great seeing you this fine day my friend.