Just a basic no frills valve job for a local Customer. This 12G940 classic mini cylinder head gets its valve seats recut after fitting new guides…..
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@itsst1722 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your incredible skills. I was looking for long time finding a proper way to machine valve seats on my milling machine.
@williambaisley85942 жыл бұрын
An excellent video showing the capabilities of the milling machine as a seat and guide machine. I would imagine the DRO makes centering the quill with respect to the pilot a lot easier. Well done!
@ACDodd2 жыл бұрын
It works well just not quite as quick I feel as a dedicated seat and guide machine
@estebanr.a.69175 ай бұрын
Es usted un gran profesional gracias por enseñar a los que estamos empezando
@weld-deluxltd7635 Жыл бұрын
Lovely work, smart tools and clever chap.
@ACDodd Жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@Mike62501 Жыл бұрын
Customer is foolish because we all know blending to chambers is always done to maximize air/fuel mix in and exhaust blow down out. I really like your video! At 72 now I used to build racing engines starting in 1967 and even did Road race Mini heads using David Visard’s new then book on porting Mini’s. Plus I did a lot of work for a guy who worked on race Triumphs 4 and 6 cylinders. Nice work Mate. Mike from Sevierville TN
@ACDodd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking time to comment.
@bad406camaro5 ай бұрын
Love the Newen tooling. I have converted a old Winnona seat & guide machine to use the Newen tools Also added a VFD and DRO to help cutter speed with different size valve diameters. and DRO to match seat depths. Really brought back a excellent machine that as original was not suitable for modern heads. Clearly not as fast as a serdi 4.5 or another modern machine but very pleasant to use none the less. Cylinder head supply out of oregon USA or Goodson tools have a quality selection of cutters at great prices and no i don't work for them
@ACDodd5 ай бұрын
Excellent use of an old machine
@user-iu2ce6ld1p4 ай бұрын
What a cool video. Learned alot
@ACDodd4 ай бұрын
Thankyou, please like and subscribe to My channel, thankyou!
@andrewwilson8317 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. Lucky to have an optical centre finder that magnifies the holes and allows very accurate centering on the valve guides. Have found some guides that were out of round, but customers not wanted changed! Like you said,lot of leeway in factory tolerances!
@ACDodd Жыл бұрын
Yes guides vary a lot, thanks for your comments
@Workshopfriend2 жыл бұрын
Very instructive. Thank you!
@T0tenkampf2 жыл бұрын
Great instruction on the use of the tool. I was looking at the Goodson system which seems similar to Newen
@jasonbell59052 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@dovemfg2 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@bddc201 Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a machinist with 37 years of experience; you don't have to be nearly that precise locating those valve guides. You don't even need the indicator with the valve cutting fixture being used. Just chucking up the mandrel and easing it into the valve guide hole and then taking down the numbers for the position would be much faster and more than precise enough for this purpose. Cheers from the US!
@ACDodd Жыл бұрын
The only problem with that on these old A-series heads is the guides are not always vertical.
@bad406camaro5 ай бұрын
The newen tooling ball driver head will make up for minor misalignment, but it does wear the guide pilot more when misaligned. Especially when counterboring for a new seat
@findtherightbeat2 ай бұрын
@@ACDodd I am not familiar with machine work but would just like to ask how many valve jobs a Newen insert/cutter can do before it requires replacement, thanks
@ronflood56976 ай бұрын
Seems like you should be checking the spindle to pilot concentricity at the top and bottom of the pilot. You’d be taking a lot for granted thinking that the guides are all 90° in both directions from the valve cover rail which it’s mounted from. I have an air float seat and guide machine and I tweak the level adjustment for each seat a little from one to the next along the line.
@ACDodd6 ай бұрын
The cutter has a ball drive for a reason. That allows for alignment issues.
@Sternhammer892 жыл бұрын
Another nice informative video. When the seats are recessed like that, I guess the difference is taken up when adjusting the rockers?
@ACDodd2 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s all not ideal but it will run ok. This is real world work where everything is not perfect
@jeromewells1512 ай бұрын
What’s the part numbers on your valve machining tools that you need to use for the milling machine?
@ACDodd2 ай бұрын
Contact beam equipment in the USA as discuss your requirements with them. They supplied mine and were most helpful.
@AndySomogyi Жыл бұрын
Did you cut those for unleaded hardened seats? I also have a milling machine, and want to cut my Volvo heads for hardened seats. I'm thinking about using my plain boring head to cut the pockets for the hard seat inserts.
@ACDodd Жыл бұрын
For inserts I use a piloted single point home Made tool to rough cut the seat recess, then use a boring head to take to final size.
@AndySomogyi Жыл бұрын
@@ACDodd Great, good to hear it works, the boring head. I’m really surprised by how accurate they are, I can easily hit 0.001” specs with just a cheap one.
@jeffstevens6648 ай бұрын
Needs hardened seats for unleaded
@ACDodd8 ай бұрын
Yes you are correct, however customer not paying for that.
@petar4437 ай бұрын
Nice job and good tips. How many Kw, or horse power is this machine ? Can it service DOHC cylinder heads?
@ACDodd7 ай бұрын
Yes it can service dohc cylinder heads but the cutters will only go down to around 1.1” dia on the seat. The machine has a 3hp motor, but I run it derated to 1.6hp plenty of power for seat cutting and head skimming. You will need a proper head fixture to hold the dohc head at the required angles.
@josepacheco93622 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea, where did you get the tool to do the job?
@ACDodd2 жыл бұрын
It’s a newen 3d system purchased from beam equipment in the USA.
@josepacheco93622 жыл бұрын
@@ACDodd Preciate it, Thank you!
@josepacheco93622 жыл бұрын
@@ACDodd Do you happen to know the part number by any chance?
@MrTIGERH17527 ай бұрын
Why did you use cutting oil on cast iron??? Especially with a carbide insert cutter. Tim
@ACDodd7 ай бұрын
That’s a good question and the answer is simple, I get a better finish.
@robertoudokrapf4536 ай бұрын
OLÁ. Considero Vosso trabalho apenas parcial. Mesmo usando corante NÃO se aperceberam que o grau de acento ESTÁ INVERTIDO! ABRAÇOS Roberto Udo Krapf
@peglegmotoring2 жыл бұрын
Wow was that cylinder head found in a pond with all that pitting? On a more serious note are you related to charlie from the MOC?
@ACDodd2 жыл бұрын
Yes I am his son.
@TishaHayesАй бұрын
It appears to be just begging for a couple of passes with a fly cutter.
@charliewilson8829 Жыл бұрын
Can you get the cutting inserts for this in the UK?
@ACDodd Жыл бұрын
Yes a chap called Zilvermann on eBay
@TTRVision5 ай бұрын
after the valve milling every valve is pared to one valve seat ? many thanks and all the best
@ACDodd5 ай бұрын
After cutting the seats they are not matched. Only after lappin are they matched
@solasautoАй бұрын
Anyone have a link to that exact set of tools?
@ACDoddАй бұрын
Discuss your requirements with Beam equipment in the states
@gertkristensen64518 ай бұрын
I wanted to find the center as close to the seat as possible, angle error from the seat and up, the valve came to sit offset
@stumillis79777 ай бұрын
Hi refer to stu Millis comments .
@mohdasifkhan22 Жыл бұрын
Hello brother can I used moter cycle head used this how much cost this tool
Sorry you are wrong . I am an automotive machinist of 38 years . I have used many different types of machines and insist that you must set up every seat with the individual guide because every guide is slightly different! Then the most important point is that you must check the valve to the seat . To get this perfect you need to have even movement at all points on the seat and have the seat angles the same or slightly touching on the top of the valve seat by 1/2 a degree up to 1.5 degrees depending on spec's. So if you put bearing blue on the valve very thinly and place the valve in the guide the blue will show you where the valve is touching . As long as the valve guides are not worn you will get an accurate indication. This point is something most people do not know . Lapping the valve should only be done after this is done and because of the thickness of grinding paste lapping is not an accurate check ! Hope this helps .
@ACDodd7 ай бұрын
I blue check every seat I cut, and so far I have not had one that does not get full contact using this method.
@teamruwetindonesia6665 Жыл бұрын
10:18 dimana membelibpilot dan cutternya ini dan berapa harganya
@ACDodd Жыл бұрын
It’s from beam equipment in the USA it’s a Newen 3ds kit
@rdetme4ever552 Жыл бұрын
He slid the valves down that “jig” with the set screw rubbing and is ruining all his efforts.